I used to think incels were hilarious trash, just like every bluepilled cuck out there

You're hilarious trash!

Same here. One injection of blackpill was all I needed.

I mean, as a normie lurker, I just have to wonder how many average looking dudes like me must not be friends with any really attractive men.

Like take the way someone with 1% looks gets treated relative to you and then extrapolate how someone in the bottom 1% of appearance gets treated in relation to you.

I'm not saying I don't think there are some toxic things said here but overall I can't help but feel bad for these guys.

So a person asked you for help and you think that's manipulation? 🤔

At least now you know better. Never orbit bro. Women get through life on the backs of low value male generosity all whilst riding the cocks of Chad.

A similar thing has happened with me and men, this isn't exclusive to foids. Some people just know that they can use their looks to use you, who wouldn't when it works every time? It's a symbiotic relationship, especially with orbiters.

I'm sure he meant parasitic. Otherwise he's a fool.

You’re a self-absorbed fool. She probably thought you were smart and wanted help with homework. You took that as a sign of her flirting when she probably made no attempt to flirt. You’re literally the one who made the mistake, is now butthurt, and trying to blame it on her lmao A woman can interact with a guy and it doesn’t have to mean literally anything

a similar thing happened to you? :2 you mean an attractive man slept with you and you couldnt hook him? -_-

boo-hoo foid

no i think he's a guy and he meant he wanted to sleep with a guy, but he was unable to do so because he's not attractive enough

So? I let people put their name on my homework all the time in university. I didn't expect them to do anything for me. I let everyone else copy the problems they hadn't manage to solve to.

If you did this all for free, you’re genuinely retarded. Enjoy being used your entire life, lol.

Roastie saw an ugly incel and took advantage. All of us have been there. Stop being obtuse

This is the natural order of things.

Stacey uses bluepilled cuck > Chad uses Stacey abuses her a bit and bounces > Stacey uses bluepilled cuck > Blackpillers JFL at bluepilled cucks.

SMH at bluepilled cucks

Sorry but if you had a good personality you wouldn't mind. Good people help out people all the time expecting nothing in return.

Only destitute people need the help of others.

Wow, it's sad that you think like this. Helping someone without wanting anything in return isn't that uncommon. Even if it's sometimes inconvenient.

maybe she actually thought of you as a friend? how wrong she was then, i know you aren't that old but you do know the word no right? if you didn't wanna spend your time just to be nice just say no. But somehow she becomes a master of manipulation because you agreed to help her and in you mind she would give you her body in return, something that was made up in your head and never even talked about, please tell us how exactly she is to blame?

Women know what men want. Women know what strings to pull. You're absolving the girl of all guilt when for all you know she consciously pulled OP's strings so as to help her out.

And you are automaticly throwing all the guilt on her just for being the gender she is with knowing just as much as me. So you tell me what's best for everyone: to assume malice right from the start based solely on gender, or assume misunderstanding or random accurence from the start?

I'm not throwing all the guilt on her. I keep an open mind and I'm aware that maybe she consciously manipulated him. It's better than to just assume she is an innocent little angel that can do no wrong.

I'm not throwing all the guilt on her. I keep an open mind and I'm aware that maybe she consciously manipulated him.

you assume this is the case based on her gender alone.

It's better than to just assume she is an innocent little angel that can do no wrong.

and no one here assumed that so that's a weird comparison. so assuming malice in your fellow human beings is better then not to assume malice in your mind?

you assume this is the case based on her gender alone.

I already said once I know it's a possibility. I'm not claiming to know that's what happened

and no one here assumed that so that's a weird comparison.

In your initial reply to were implying that she did no wrong and it's all the fault of OP's twisted perspective.

so assuming malice in your fellow human beings is better then not to assume malice in your mind?

"Oh, the humanity!! Are you just simply going to entertain the idea that somebody was being manipulative??"

You are talking as if assuming somebody is capable of manipulation is preposterous. Get real. My "fellow human" is capable of stabbing me in the back and taking a dump on my corpse if they think it'll somehow benefit them.

Funny how you seem to think that your fellow human, the incel, is the one that did wrong while your fellow human, the woman, was simply trying to get a favour from the guy she never talks to unless she needs academical help and she was in no way taking advantage of him.

I'm not claiming to know that's what happened

No but you clearly Assume It.

In your initial reply to were implying that she did no wrong and it's all the fault of OP's twisted perspective.

Oh, just like you implied the opposite?

Oh, the humanity!! Are you just simply going to entertain the idea that somebody was being manipulative??"

I could but it certainly won't be my initial conclusion without knowing for sure.

You are talking as if assuming somebody is capable of manipulation is preposterous. Get real. My "fellow human" is capable of stabbing me in the back and taking a dump on my corpse if they think it'll somehow benefit them.

Just like all the murders on incels happening just because "everyone wants you dead"? Get real, people don't just do what they want, because if they did it would be anarchy and if isn't so stop your whining.

Funny how you seem to think that your fellow human, the incel, is the one that did wrong

Never thought that, simply that it was a misunderstanding or miscommunication, you are the one assuming malice, not me.

you are unable to grasp that just because I mentioned the possibility of the woman manipulating OP doesn't mean that I assume it's what happened. I know I don't know everything, and so I know I don't know what happened in OP's story, but I am aware that her manipulating him is certainly a possibility, while your initial reaction to the story was one in which you assumed the woman was blameless. Or maybe it's a miscommunication between us.

As for the whole people don't go around killing incels, you completely missed the point. I wasn't making a point of telling you how incels are hated by everybody and how people want to kill us, I was expressing that your view on your "fellow human" seems to be childish. You act surprised that I even dare to consider the possibility of somebody being manipulative, as if it's not something that people do every day.

It really strikes me as weird how you seem to think that considering the possibility of foul play coming from a woman is preposterous, when you have no trouble believing that incels, the OP in this case, are capable of manipulation.

As for your last point I read it elsewhere ITT. That or I'm confusing this thread with another one. 90% sure I read that here. Feel free to check the other replies.

Ehhhh

Cut the shit.

Men in general lay out what is masculinity

Then tell women this is what is the best

Then approximate where they fit on that scale.

We can entice u but no one can make u bite (u can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink)

More often than not, you soaked in the attention during a 'manipulation' because it's what you wanted by any means necessary

Why in the fuck is your dignity my JOB? Do you give a shit when I am successfully manipulated? You literally lol with other men about how dumb I was to believe the lying active pursuit of some dick

Furthermore, sometimes you are borderline and we aren't attracted until you do something worth noting. Some of you convince your better friends that you all love in the same scale but its a lie. Sometimes my doorman is suddenly hot for helping me with a fuckton on packages. Sometimes I am overwhelmed with joy by the efforts of the stranger man who helps me lift my giant boxes into a building. The brilliant nerd who doesn't make me feel dumb during chemistry while he shows me a new perspective. Strong crush.

You discount human interaction because you engage in too little.

I am not saying some of you are not frightfully ugly. I am saying that most of you are just men who may or may not inspire the second look.

Lols all around when watching men talk to each other about female sexuality while female sexuality overflows in the background behind glass men built.

Do you go out of your way to ask these men Out or do you expect them to read your mind?

low IQ post

What do you mean by the last paragraph? Just that too few men engage with women?

If your only objective to helping someone is to get them to be your girlfriend, maybe you should have stated that up front. I bet she thought you were just helping her just to help someone out.

If your only objective to helping someone is to get them to be your girlfriend, maybe you should have stated that up front. I bet she thought you were just helping her just to help someone out.

We are MALES, not fucking lesbians. GTFO with this BS. As if chad invites a girl to help her.

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If you only cared about helping her, you wouldn't care if she had a boyfriend or not. The fact that her relationship status plays a role here indicates that you tried to exchange favors for intimacy which means you're either a Nice Guy™ and equally as manipulative as you perceive her to be or you're seriously clueless about how human interactions work.

A normal guy tries to get with a girl by helping her out = normal.

An incel tries to get with a girl by helping her out = misogynistic nice guy who doesn't deserve to get laid.

1. Most mature people would agree that trying to get into a girl's pants by doing her favors is stupid at best and dishonest at worst, even if it was a "normal" guy doing it. How the fuck is she supposed to know you're interested in her. Surprisingly, girls can't read minds.

2. Just helping a girl with the intent of sticking your dick in her doesn't make you a creep or misogynist or whatever. Like I said, it's mostly just kinda pointless. But then lashing out at her for not "rewarding" you does. Again, like I said, she can't read your mind. How the fuck was she supposed to know what you expected as "payment"?

He wasn't even trying to get into her pants, the OP is upset because he thinks the woman manipulated him into helping her because of the implied possibility of a relationship.

because of the implied possibility of a relationship.

Was it implied though? Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. But see, this is just the problem. If he had been upfront about his intentions from the start, no speculation would be necessary to begin with.

Reading some of the comments and some people need to see the difference between helping because you want to and being used like a tool. Sounds like you were a tool blinded by hopeful lust.

You were born an incel and now you're following your destiny. There is no escape.

I'm not throwing all the guilt on her. I keep an open mind and I'm aware that maybe she consciously manipulated him.

you assume this is the case based on her gender alone.

It's better than to just assume she is an innocent little angel that can do no wrong.

and no one here assumed that so that's a weird comparison. so assuming malice in your fellow human beings is better then not to assume malice in your mind?