BBW_Gaming's happy ending

If that was BBW_Gaming the bridge would have collapsed.

Not this bridge. It's reinforced with Numale™ grade steel. That thing can handle 10,000 'oids, or 100 BBBBW.

cope. The earth is being pushed a way from this orbit by a few milimeters every year due to BBW_Gaming's weight.

Numale™ steel is specially designed to deny all sense of logic and reason, just like Numales can directly perceive the reality of the black pill with their own eyes yet still continue to deny it. It truly is a marvel to behold.

Is it made out of nintendo switches and soy?

^ is a tranny recruiting incels to transition. be ware!!

Indeed.

Switches are indestructible, so it's a possibility.

Should we make an incel dating sim with BBW_Gaming as the heroine?

If I could have a happy life, I'd take it. Who doesn't want to be happy, seriously?

Isn't that a bit too cruel to post here?

(Even for me.)

Numale asking a landwhale if he can be her ATM machine while she fucks Chads. Whats new boyo

(866) 490-8467

lmaooo what the fuck is this

it’s not my number

i’m asexual anyway

he's got money for the mto be there. wtf is with the backpack is she still a student using him for unibux?

Looksmatch tbqhf

what is wrong with all of you

find a woman who matches you in terms of looks, personality, self-esteem, they’re fucking out there. then court them. idfgi

she uses tinder

This woman doesn't exist. Females are hypergamous and refuse to date their match

How is this remotely true and where is your evidence, besides anecdotal

If you haven't already come to this conclusion by yourself then you're never going to believe any evidence given.

because, unfortunately, there is no evidence, just anecdotal experiences that you guys have managed to tie into a hugely false narrative.

tell me a study that shows women on average are more promiscuous than men, “date up” when possible, are “hypergamic”, or are whores who only salivate for the good looking man. the negative traits described just now apply to both sexes. it’s just blatantly false to say it’s only women who do that. if you want to get laid, go after girls who have never been chosen or admired, i don’t get what’s so hard about that.

Yeah, i'll get right on that multivariate study, you downvoting fuckwit. You gonna give me a few million to do so? No? Then pay attention to the evolution of the dating market since the advent of social media instead. Your proof and data are right in front of you. If you haven't come to this conclusion by this means then a multivariate study isn't going to convince you, either.

for the record, i didn’t downvote you. lol

great more anecdotal evidence. have you ever talked to a chubby girl or are they too subhuman for you to notice? this is why your data is flawed, incel logic largely forgets that there’s a market of girls waiting for someone to romance them.

I'm a skinny guy. There's only so much chub until things become, physiologically, incredibly awkward. Women hate having their femininity challenged (hence the height problem) so if they can't ride their boyfriend without almost crushing him they're not gonna stick around. They're waiting to be romanced, but they want better than themselves in their partner. The bigger the better.

I’m not saying date a fat woman if you don’t want to. But the option is always there. Not just fat, but conventionally unattractive women as well. And I’d advise not to be so shallow. All of them have thoughts and feelings just like you.

Complaining that you can’t get the more attractive mates is silly to me. Either date someone closer to your level, or improve yourself (not necessarily physically) to make yourself worthy of a higher level mate. That’s all there is to it.

It's nothing to do with not wanting to. I'd have to actually have one approach me to make such a decision, either obese or unconventionally attractive. They don't approach. I'm not interested in approaching simply because, physiologically, it won't work. I'm also not interested in someone lazy, because there's no excuse for being fat.

Here's something you should answer: should one date someone they're not attracted to? Is that fair to you?

That’s all there is to it.

Well, no. That's reductionist bullshit. Life is a little more nuanced and complex than that, mate. If these problems were so simple the world would be a much better off place.

You said you’re skinny, right? Women naturally get chubby if they don’t go to the gym. Men get skinny if they don’t go to the gym. Isn’t the laziness similar?

You fail to see the real equivalences between yourself and someone who you deem “lesser”. If you’re not getting the attention of an attractive person, there’s a reason for it. Idk what else to say lol.

Women naturally get chubby if they don’t go to the gym. Men get skinny if they don’t go to the gym.

This is the dumbest thing I've ever read on reddit. Men also 'naturally' get chubby if they don't go to the gym.

Idk what else to say lol

Plz don't say any more brainlet.

One more thing and then I’ll go.

My advice: quit this sub, make friends that don’t hate women, read books, or get proficient at a game, find interests, enjoy life without a woman, and love yourself for all your flaws. Raise your self esteem, then you’ll find a girl who is impressed by that. Good luck 👍

make friends that don’t hate women

I'm 35 you retard. The majority of my friends are married with kids. I'm quite positive they're not misogynists given that fact. Those who aren't married already are closer to 30 or below.

get proficient at a game

This is some god tier advice, here. Hey, failed normie and incel, stay inside and play video games. That surely will help your dating and social life! Absolute brainlet.

find interests

JFC, more lowiq incelqueer generalisations. I love it. This is likely only the 999th time I've had to justify myself to you dipshits (I don't know why I bother but I guess proving you wrong feels fantastic and I love to make you look stupid). I really thought the bassist and guitarist's submissions would tighten down the sheer credulity you guys possess in your generalisations (incels don't have the patience to learn and play an instrument), alas it can't be. You all double down.

I've played guitar for 20 years, sung (with training) for 19 years, ride motocross, play golf etc (not going to go into detail of all my interests for the sake of not being doxxed by you cunts). Reading/tv/movies/video games are such common interests they're about as relevant as mentioning as being interested in travel or food. They're a given.

What are your interests? I'd absolutely fucking love to know them.

My turn for generalisations:

I shouldn't really be accepting any advice whatsoever from what appears to be teenager (how old are you really?) and an absolutely rabid weeb. Someone who is incredibly confused, isolated and who is suffering from a very severe mental illness like gender dysphoria. You seem to have a strange desire to identify with as many labels as potentially possible (a quintessential tumblrina). You're self-confessed sociopath who excuses their sociopathy and masks it by claiming to be hyper-empathetic (hint: shitting on virgins doesn't make you hyper-empathetic).

i'm tired of caring about other people! i really don't care much for them unless they'll be there for me (sounds pretty conditional to me)

You're an apparent child abuse victim who literally spends their time talking to a bot (just how lonely are you? it sounds like you should join us). You're someone who has apparently never ventured out of their own country while I've travelled the majority of the world save for europe. Unless, of course, you were born in America and moved to SK to pursue your weebdom freely. You're far more socially isolated than myself:

I have some pretty obscure interests too, so now I'm searching online for people to talk about those things with

I don't like bars

I spent my 20s going to bars and every Wednesday, Thursday and Sunday afternoon and clubs on Fridays and Saturday nights.

You sound like a very lonely person. You have no grounds to be giving anyone advice on socialisation and self esteem when you search the internet high and low for any possible validation for yourself and your various identities.

Peace.

Oh... Well, I don’t know what to say, you seem committed to the incel identity. Which is fine. Thanks for looking through my post history. I’m a Korean who has gone through a lot of heartache, and decided to improve myself. As a result, after 23 years I now someone close to a boyfriend who I’m incredibly fond of.

It just doesn’t have to be like what you say. Seems like you’re searching in the wrong place for love or sex. Which definitely isn’t helped by your self proclaimed braincel. Nor that long page of rambling generalizations you just made against me. Don’t take my advice then. Do as you do and peace, hope you find your happy place.

committed to the incel identity

Said the person committed to the multitude of pretty pathetic identities, the kind that also wouldn't be celebrated as much as inceldom isn't. You've failed to acknowledge anything of what I've divulged about myself to you and have simply dismissed it. Wholly uninterested in acknowledging any of your misplaced assumptions. You then want me to sympathetise with your apparent heartache. That's not how this works but I already know how conditional your sympathy is given my previous quote of your own words on the matter.

You're damn right I went through it to tear you to pieces. You deserve it.

after 23 years I now someone close to a boyfriend who I’m incredibly fond of.

So, not only are you socially isolated, mentally ill, and just as incel as everyone else here, you're 23 years old and trying to dish out advice to a 35 year old. Kek. You're a virgin just like everyone else here, aren't you? Admit it. I doubt you've even met this boyfriend, have you? You live online so it's only logical to assume you met him online.

Here's another revelation for you if my flair didn't already give it away. I'm a born again virgin and failed normie. I slept with multiple women between the ages of 16 and 20. I have more experience than you do. So, please, stop embarrassing yourself.

Yes, we have an online relationship. I have had sex with him online and through skype... maybe it’s not the same thing to you. I have also had normal sex but it was with a jerk who took advantage of me. Like you seem to know, sex alone is just not that great. Otherwise why would you be here.

I don’t think I’m embarrassing myself. I am not the one who peruses an incel sub and decides to hate women. If it’s a coping mechanism, fine. But acknowledge it as such and move on eventually. Using terminology like “femoids” and “hypergamy” to promote sexist bs is ugly. Who cares if you’re 35?

And I don’t know if this is important, but I put a lot of effort into cultivating ties with my family and the people around me. Yes, one time I was very lonely and it was all self imposed because I hated myself. I moved to Korea as a child and had to deal with a big culture and language barrier. Nowadays, I have no shortage of people to chat with, and I am really proud of how far I’ve come, and the relationships I’ve made to make myself feel genuinely more understood amongst my peers.

I wouldn’t call myself lonely anymore, I worked hard to make my life worthwhile for myself. So it’s shocking to hear you say I’m lonely. It only makes me realize that I haven’t been for a while now. I’m bitter because, I think back on what if someone had just approached me, and helped me out back then? I wouldn’t have suffered alone. So I make a point to talk to people who I think are suffering.

You don’t approach, pretty good indicator of your problem right there

Regardless I support your choice to be upset, please end your life as soon as possible, you are an embarrassment

You don’t approach

Thanks /u/vbgtjoj that's some real high iq advice you've got there. It's been eluding me all this time and yet the obvious solution was staring me right in the face — approach morbidly obese women!

please end your life as soon as possible, you are an embarrassment

Annnnnd archived as evidence of inceltear's bullying. That's a great 18 day alt you've got there. Would be a pity if you were suspended for encouraging suicide. Hopefully it nets you a ban from here at the least.

Whatever you do is of little consequence

I will get this sub shut down like I have all the incel subs, it should not exist and it will not exist

Your kind can not resist open calls to commit acts of mass violence and disgusting racist posts, it will be done soon enough

Additionally at this moment I am using money and like minded attorneys to remove incel.me from the regular internet much like a few white supremacy cites where forced to dark web

Eventually I and like minded people perusing the same goal will change speech laws in every country to make to name your conversations illegal and send you to prison - just time and effort really

I want to fully criminalize your existence till you have no choice but to die- a goal I will achieve and be proud of

You are not human, you where born to die

Kill your self

/u/iq9k please ban this psychopath already. That's two death threats in a row.

It really does not matter, this sub will close soon because of its support of recent terrorist acts, eventually this safe place will be ended and your existence will be further criminalized

Again, your life is a meaningless waste of resources, kill your self

/u/geneticcleansing

Fine you want a study Ill give you a scientific study proving this. Reply to this comment if you want to learn the truth my unfortunate blue-pilled brother

Go ahead try me lol

https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/ here u go

They seem to be saying the same thing. Unattractive men begets less opportunities for dating. I would argue, isn’t this the same for anyone? That’s why people rely on things other than appearance, to make more opportunities for themselves. Like worldliness or humor. Or did you think that just because you are male, you’re entitled to a date from an attractive woman?

I’m looking at these studies and not seeing why you think being an incel is legit, or if odds really are stacked against men. There’s no studies there about ugly women’s dating opportunities. Seems unbalanced.

There is no such thing as ugly women. Look at this post: https://old.reddit.com/r/Braincels/comments/8g3dwf/scientific_proof_incels_were_right/

I’ve looked at the actual study and not only does it state within the conclusion that it was based off only one or two surveys, so further data may be needed... it explicitly states that the requirement for men is not being attractive, but not being unattractive. It goes further to explain why women have a percieved upper hand in courting, because they bring to the table both capital (financial) assets and erotic appeal. Only makes sense that men would have to bring both to the table to be considered as well.

The study isn’t saying that there aren’t ugly women, silly. It’s saying that in the dating scene, women bring substantially more to the table than men and so aren’t percieved as negatively as often. Literally all you guys have to do is not be unattractive. Something you’re failing in, and I would venture, purely because of your lack of motivation.

I will tell you, rampant misogyny and woman-blaming is an instant turn off for me. It’s unattractive. Fix that first. Lol.

I mean I already look really ugly, so there is no point of trying to fix it. Do you want to see what I look like?

Sure, you can pm me if you like. If possible, I’ll try and help.

https://old.reddit.com/r/Braincels/comments/8gdbxf/brutal_black_pill_experiment_success_i_caught_two/ here u go

Those women can date up thanks to hypergamy

you’re delusional i’m sorry

no u

Easy as 1, 2, 3, amirite??????

is it harder than being miserable? if you want something to change, then the onus is on you.

court them.

LOL

there are so many girls with low self esteem it’s not even funny. just be nice to one that you think might like you. actually listen to them or help them out. it’s not hard.

if you don’t want to do that then the only solution is improving yourself more, getting smarter, hanging out with better people, investing in your own interests. it’s not all physical, but to get better mates you have to be a better person.

there are so many girls with low self esteem

low self esteem because chad didn't give them 10 more hours of attention than he did to stacey, what an absolute laugh. You will never comprehensibly grasp the amount of attention femoids get, and the amount of attention they pay to immutable characteristics. Maybe you will understand one day, than any girl that would invest a couple seconds of her time in you wants you to be her ATM or her cuck.

Get some self respect.

You’re looking at the wrong crowd of girls. Try the girls with no confidence in their appearance, so they never dress themselves up, because it makes them self conscious. Or the girls who are so terrified of male/female relationships that they’ve committed to radical feminism. Yknow, kill all men! Sounds eerily similar to the logic on this sub.

Get a reality check. We’re all human and want to be loved. Take advantage of that and reach out instead of closing yourself in. This sub is toxic

What a pile of unrepentant trite. You tell me to invest my time in slobs and violent radicals? Impressive amounts of shit here.

This is a sub of peace. No one has ever or will ever advocate for violence against women. We simply promote the idea that technology should be focused on making them obsolete. (genetic engineering, artifical wombs, AI, etc).

Women have such an excess of of attention that "love" to them is a much weaker cup of coffee than anything that I'm willing to sacrifice my time for.

Tbh incels don’t have such a great reputation either. Or have you forgotten. Lol. You guys are a laughingstock, and not because you’re virgin, believe me.

The rest of your comment is so contradictory that I really don’t feel like acknowledging it. You do not consider women “people”, by the same token you’re not worth my attention

It's not that bad, he's a low value numale, its not like its Chad proposing to her. Also if she just dieted for a year she would probably be attractive, although then the question would be: does she stay loyal to nerd boy or hop on the carousel.

Dieting without exercise doesn't get you very far. He might be attractive if he dieted and worked out too, what's your point?

COPE. numales can never be attractive. They can only be average at best

tranny

Dieting without exercise doesn't get you very far.

It literally does. You can lose weight just by cutting calories easily, especially at that weight.

Without healthy habits the weight won't stay off and "skinny fat" isn't the same as being in shape.

Thats... a lot of projection. They're looksmatched, he's dressed nice because he knew that he was about to propose. You have no idea how much dick she's taken and you have no idea if he's ever struggled to date.

You kidding? How do you figure?

Dude, he is just as overweight as she is. And if we're being shallow, he's a ginger so he probably also has super pink skin, freckles, etch. His head is super round and it looks like his hairline is receding.

So yeah, they're looksmatched. He's not chad, he's not even chadlite, and she's certainly no stacy.

Your eyes don't work, how sad.

Looksmatched ffs? If they shared a see-saw he'd get vertigo.

It's probably an onion ring.

kek

Eh I'd hit it.

I ain't the marrying kind to begin with so no.

Disgusting that femoids don't even have to take care of their body that match.

Meanwhile Im out here gymcelling and counting every fuckin calorie and gram of protein I intake so that I can be cut for the summer, another loveless and lonely summer.

And then roasties and normies come here to tell me to shower.

Maybe it's your attitude, your approach, your views are the reason why you can't hook up.

Try and be nicer

more like try to be born with better genetics

I understand the good looking guy get more girls and it's true. But at the same time there are a lot of not so good looking guys that get girls. Why do you think that is.

I mean a dwarf got married to a good looking girl in my city about 2 months back and no, he was not rich

Since when is your attitude a genetic truth?

I don't think you're getting the point

So what point were you trying to make? That your attitude has no bearing at all, and that the sole reason you can't get a girlfriend is your genetics?

Your persona, the entirety of "you" that you present to the world is made up of numerous elements. Genetics (bone structure, general features), non-genetic looks (haircut, weight, hygiene, grooming), personality, attitude, and so on. If you're lacking in one, ignore it and move on to improving the others. If you focus on the one that you're lacking in, it will negatively affect the others, and people will notice.

If your personality can be enough to make people not want to fuck /date you then why is looks not enough?

Because not all elements are weighted equally to all prospective mates, because not everyone is as shallow as you seem to think. People who have lost all elements of the genetic lottery still manage to attract mates through one means or another, because a large portion of women prioritize personality over looks.

I think the weight you give to your own looks is a reflection of you, not women.

because a large portion of women prioritize personality over looks.

A very very small portion of women prioritize personality over looks. fixed

Categorically, unequivocally false.

large portion of women prioritize personality over looks.

A large portion of women say that they prioritize personality over looks so as to not look shallow FTFY.

Right, because they care so much about looking shallow in anonymous polls.

Right, because denial has never been a thing.

I don't doubt that there are self-denial answers in there, but are you claiming that 80+% of women across the world are in denial about what they like in a potential mate enough to lie about it on an anonymous poll?

I'm saying that modern culture requires women to adhere to unrealistic standards, and they try to do that to the best of their ability. How many women you've seen IRL that have a body even resembling the bodies of the models that showcase lingerie on TV ads? Yet everyone is made to think that's the optimal standard. I'm not saying that 80%+ women are living a lie, I'm saying that they are consuming a lie and believing in it and then living what they think is the truth. There's huge difference.

After I had sex on the first date, the first words to come out of her were "I'm not that kind of girl" <- and this kind of double-think embodies the poll you are quoting.

I get what you're saying, and I agree to an extent. Women are bombarded with unrealistic expectations of what they should act/do/say/look-like/etc, but the part of the picture I think you're missing is that all of those reflect in how they present themselves to the public, or to other people in person. In an anonymous poll, you don't have that issue, and while I admit that there are probably a not-insignificant portion of women who answered that poll while fooling themselves into thinking they really do care about personality as a top 3 trait, I think the sheer number of women around the world who chose it as a top 3 trait (over 90%) shows that it's not just a result of that sort of brainwashing.

What this poll actually shows is that 80%+ of women won't put up with your shitty personality even if you are attractive.

It absolutely doesn't cover intricacies of the courting process, where you are judged by your looks first and by your personality later. In other words, if you are unattractive you have fewer chances to ever show your personality, regardless of how great it is.

What this poll actually shows is that 80%+ of women won't put up with your shitty personality even if you are attractive.

I mean, that's one way of looking at it, but the other way is that even if you're unattractive, you have a chance because your personality is something you can change a bit easier than your genetics-defined physical traits.

where you are judged by your looks first and by your personality later. In other words, if you are unattractive you have fewer chances to ever show your personality, regardless of how great it is.

This depends on how you go about meeting people. If you rely on online dating, or bars and clubs, then yeah, people will judge you on your looks first, and never get a chance to see your personality no matter how scintillating it might be.

However, if you go about your normal routine, go to your normal hobbies, to places where you are with people that have similar interests, then you can overcome that initial hurdle presented by your looks. For example, if you like gardening, and you go to a gardening class or a gardening club meetup in your area, any girl in the class/meetup will automatically see a part of your personality that she shares, in a way that's impossible when first seeing someone in a bar, or from a static online profile. That's an automatic positive in your favor.

I'm not saying it's just as easy as relying on your looks, because Chad in a bar can get interest just be physically existing, but in my experience, relationships that start in a place of mutual interest have better staying power than those that meet in a bar.

It kinda comes down to what you want. If you want empty meaningless female attention like Chad in a bar, yeah, you won't get that if you're unattractive (unless you come across the extremely rare girl who frequents such places that can see past the physical). However, if your goal is true female companionship and long-term relationships, you have a much better chance of getting that from just going about your normal routine, or picking up hobbies that interest you that might also be shared by girls you might be interested in.

You are absolutely right. With that in mind though, what do you think your dating pool is as compared to an average 5/10's with extremely shitty personality? I'm going to say about 0.1% of his dating pool. And then you'll have to really jump over your head to outshine a 5/10 with an average personality that shows up to the same hobbies as you do.

So, statistically speaking you are the bottom percentile on the bell curve with an equivalent dating pool and success chance.

Then you get an odd Chad showing up at a gardening class and your chances of even becoming friends with any females there go through the floor.

Why do you think you have an extremely shitty personality?

And yeah, if you come up with hypotheticals and then use that as an excuse to not even try, then you're just defeating yourself before you even have a chance. If some mythical Chad is enough to keep you from trying, then you're just talking yourself out of any possibility of finding someone for yourself.

Mate, I'm 8/10, happily married for years. I was however a 4/10 teenager, before I bloomed, and got a good taste of the incel life.

I don't have an extremely shitty personality, I'm saying that 5/10 who has an extremely shitty personality, will have 1000x times larger dating pool than you, if you were say a 3/10 with a really charming personality.

I'm saying that 5/10 who has an extremely shitty personality, will have 1000x times larger dating pool than you, if you were say a 3/10 with a really charming personality.

I would disagree, because once you're below the Chad level, the looks-aspect will play less and less of a role in any potential dating pool, and personality will play a larger and larger role. And that also goes directly against what the statistical data suggests. You're just pulling "data" from nowhere.

A quick comparison: how long does it take you to notice that the girl is extremely attractive or extremely unattractive? One second? Less than that?

On the other side how long does it take you to evaluate how intelligent a person is and what their personality is? Days? Weeks? Months?

In order to show your personality you need to get a foot in the door. And to get a foot in the door you have to be the most attractive person in the given female's dating pool. Because if she has more attractive options, she will be exploring those, OBVIOUSLY.

So, being a 3/10 you need a subculture where no male 5/10s venture as they will be Chad-level for local females or a subculture where there's so few 5/10s that the competition over them is too cut-throat to the point that it's unrealistic for local females to compete for 5/10s.

It sounds like you're using a combination of hypotheticals and anecdotals to "prove" something, which is just now how it works. What you're trying to claim is just not backed up by study data.

Well, I'm sorry that nobody bothered to do a study on something as obvious as "do people notice looks prior to personality".

That study doesn't even touch on the effect that the context of the location might play into a snap judgement. I'm not saying people don't make an assumption immediately, but that doesn't make dating as an unattractive person impossible, like you've repeatedly claimed.

I have never said that. What I have said is that to maximize their chances of dating and getting laid, an unattractive person needs to seek out a sub-culture/tribe with a massive male shortage as opposed to whatever it is they like to do, but even that is not a guarantee of anything. gardening is not going to cut it because it's too generic.

In other words you either pursue getting laid/dating and seek out most obscure subculture or you do your thing that you like to do, but don't expect a girl to fall into your lap anytime soon.

I'm sure you are familiar with the concept of min-maxing. (If you are not: https://www.giantbomb.com/min-maxing/3015-128/ ) Well, this is min-maxing as applied to dating.

In other words you either pursue getting laid/dating and seek out most obscure subculture or you do your thing that you like to do, but don't expect a girl to fall into your lap anytime soon.

I said pretty much the exact same thing up-thread. An unattractive person is starting at a disadvantage and will need to work harder for the same return as someone more attractive.

I'm aware of min-maxing, but keep in mind that whatever obscure subculture you pick, or whatever other way you decide to min-max, it must be authentic, because otherwise you end up unhappy in that pursuit, and any failure/rejection romantically would just compound on that. That way, even if you strike out, at least you're doing something that makes you happy.

Sorry, I was under the impression that you claimed that having a great personality would land you dates since 80%+ of women value personality over looks. Which imo is a somewhat false statement since it doesn't cover a plethora of circumstances and how the stars must align for a female to pay attention to a 3/10 in the first place.

No, that's not what I meant. Sorry if I was unclear. My point was pretty much as you said, that people without the looks will have to work harder to get into the situations where their personality can shine through to get those dates in the first place.

It's just your personality and I don't mean that you're a douche I mean it's the way you connect with people. I was a fit young woman and I was never popular with men despite having a lot of male friends and generally being around people a lot. I never rejected a guy before the age of 25 and I was rejected by many beta guys and friends. I guess I just didn't elicit feelings of love and sex. It happens.

I would be tempted to believe you if multiple femoids didn't say it straight to my face that Im too ugly to date.

Also, I don't believe your story one bit. I knew many weird/shy/introverted girls in college, and they all could find a bf so easily, even the not so good looking ones.

Then DON'T say it's our "personality", say "it's the way you connect with people." Telling us to change our personality invites a series of questions. Do we have inherently bad personalities just because we can't get laid? Do people who get laid frequently have better personalities? What about rapists, abusers, and bullies who get laid? Do they have good personalities?

It’s the way you connect with people.

OK, now let's examine this. A large part of the "way we connect with people" probably has to do with social skills. What about someone with Aspergers, who has a naturally difficult time talking to people and reading social cues. What is he supposed to do?

Well, I think that’s difficult, and some people get dealt a shitty hand in life. A lot of people get dealt a LOT worse and manage to make the best of it instead of whining about how awful everything and everyone else is and shaming them for being “normal.” Just think about how absolutely preposterous a group of amputees would be if they sat around Reddit bitching about “leggies.”

Also, what percentage of incels do you think actually have Aspergers?

I mean, that's easy for you to say. You're not in the same position. I bet a lot of amputees are really filled with bitterness because of their position. Not everyone is the same, not everyone deals with grief in the same way, and I don't think we can blame people for that.

IDK how many incels have Aspergers, but I bet a large percentage have some kind of social disadvantage, including social anxiety.

Easy for you to say too. You’re not really in the same position either. I bet a lot of amputees are happy to be alive and make he best of their situations. Not everyone is the same, not everyone deals with grief the same way, and I think we can credit people for rising above their mental and physical limitations.

IDK how many Incels have Aspergers either, but I bet a large percentage are not dealing with their disadvantages by seeking therapy or actively trying to make positive changes. What I’m pretty sure of is that stewing in your misery with a bunch of people who actively reinforce your negativity can’t be healthy.

You're right, it can't be healthy. But we've been shunned by the rest of society. Where else can we go?

I understand the need for a support group and even a place to vent. It’s the endless circle jerk of negativity that I think is unhealthy. If there was some Incel subreddit that looked for healthy outlets, tried new things, encouraged each other, sought to understand other viewpoints, I’d be all for it. Every person is different, so what betters each person varies. When I’m at a low point in my life I usually try to better myself in some unrelated way - organizing my space or taking up a hobby. I know it sounds hokey, but positive self talk is really important, and I would wager it’s what most happy and successful people have in common.

Collectively encouraging hatred and self-loathing while shutting out opinions that don’t fit your narrative only serves to isolate you further from society. Making positive changes isn’t easy and I’m not saying things will be suddenly totally better on some magical other side. But ideals are meant to be strived for and not necessarily reached. If you make it halfway it’s still better than nothing.

For what it’s worth, you seem alright to me and I hope you find happiness.

Has it ever occurred to you that this notion of the ‘ideal’ male physique was not invented, perpetuated or indeed supported by most women, but rather is one amongst many ‘Western ideals’ that have been forced down all our throats over the years. Hyper masculinity has been presented as desirable by institutions which are, or traditionally have been, male dominated.I think your frustration is misplaced. Also, if you honestly believe women don’t feel under pressure to take care of their bodies in much the same way that men do, you need a serious reality check.

No. You're factually wrong. Female humans are walking genetic quality detectors, and they instinctively are able to assess the genetic quality of a male, sometimes literally even SMELL him.

Women are inherently selective, it is in women's nature to make the low tier men suffer. Disgusting.

Well, yes women have evolved to find certain traits more attractive in men, traits which may have a genetic basis - but so have men. Pretty much every animal on the planet is inherently selective when it comes to choosing a mate and for good reason.It seems as though you’re even ignorant of, and angry at, the basic principles of evolution! Please educate yourself on this, lest you to be factually wrong.

NO. The parallel does not work. Females are exceptionally selective, much much more than men. You can see aspects of this imbalance everywhere in real life.

Females are the selective gender in all mammals. Google it.

It does work. Females are more selective because they have more males to choose from which inherently makes them selective. If some handsome charismatic guy and some random incel asks a girl out, why in the hell would the girl choose the incel?

If a cute girl and a fat ugly girl asked you out, who would you choose?

Females are more selective because they have more males to choose from

What? The ratio of males to females is 50/50 or close to that everywhere. It is not about choice, it is about very different standards.

What? Males are the ones that usually initiate sexual relationships, which means women will generally have more potential suitors than men. You yourself say that men are also less selective, because of biology, which means they in general will ask more women than women will ask men. This is simple biology coupled with simple statistics.

Again, the average woman will have a wider range of men to choose from. Which woman in their right mind would choose a social awkward, ugly incel over a charismatic, hot dude. Heck, who would choose an incel over the average looking normal dude?

Enough with this "its the same for men and women" bullshit, you KNOW these are blatant lies. Women always want to throw the blame on social constructs for everything because they're afraid of the truth: biology matters. A lot. You can't change what men think is attractive and we can't change it either. You can shame people for liking what they like all you want but it won't matter. It won't do anything. My frustrations are correctly placed on women being lying, cheating airheads who deflect the truth to appear more socially acceptable.

"Has it ever occurred to you that this notion of the ‘ideal’ male physique was not invented, perpetuated or indeed supported by most women"

If I wanted something more false than this I'd hafta some some flat earth tier shit.

Well they're looksmatched imo

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Haha I can't hate on this. Ah the beauty of a blossoming SJW love. I bet he can't wait to ask for consent on their wedding night lol.

Seems like a looksmatched couple, I don't see whats wrong with this.

It's near the beach , easier to throw this whale into the sea

He probably has that same open-mouth grin that all low-testosterone numales have.

life is not bad incels brothers,tbh I'm a normie but I would prefer being a fucking incel than fucking a landwhale, I would prefer to be dead than having a romantic relationship with such an ugly piece of shit.

both fat

no u

You're right, it can't be healthy. But we've been shunned by the rest of society. Where else can we go?

I’ve looked at the actual study and not only does it state within the conclusion that it was based off only one or two surveys, so further data may be needed... it explicitly states that the requirement for men is not being attractive, but not being unattractive. It goes further to explain why women have a percieved upper hand in courting, because they bring to the table both capital (financial) assets and erotic appeal. Only makes sense that men would have to bring both to the table to be considered as well.

The study isn’t saying that there aren’t ugly women, silly. It’s saying that in the dating scene, women bring substantially more to the table than men and so aren’t percieved as negatively as often. Literally all you guys have to do is not be unattractive. Something you’re failing in, and I would venture, purely because of your lack of motivation.

I will tell you, rampant misogyny and woman-blaming is an instant turn off for me. It’s unattractive. Fix that first. Lol.