Female here. I am actually attracted to short men.

147  2018-04-04 by IlliterateAndProud

An in, not merely would I consider dating them, but I actively prefer them. In fact, I have worked very hard to spread my love for short men, so that others may appreciate them as well. Here are some success stories:

  • My first boyfriend, who was 6'1 hated short guys, he thought they were weird, but I convinced him that they were not, and now he doesn't think of them any less. Success story.

  • Another boyfriend of mine, whom I seriously considered marrying, was 6'2, and he could not stand the sight of manlets, but thanks to my tireless advocacy for this disenfranchised group, he has learned to put his hate behind. Success story.

  • My favorite FWB, a 6'3 muscular man, didn't consider guys below 5'11 worthy of his company or attention; but not anymore: now, thanks to my efforts, he tolerates them. Success story.

  • My current boyfriend (and hopefully future husband) is 7'8, and he so loathed short guys that he would often say things like, "Why do short men even exist?", "Shot guys should be seen as kids, not as adults.", and "Never treat a short dude like a human being!". But I was so turned off by these words (and honestly, a bit turned on as well, but let's not get into that) that I did whatever I could to change his mind, and now he is not prejudiced against shorties anymore. Success story.

TL;DR: Shorties, I'm a woman who's your greatest supporter. I love short guys and I am sexually attracted to them. Nor have my efforts been limited to words only, as I have put my money where my mouth is, convincing my sexual partners (all of whom have been taller than average) to respect short people. [r/short]

158 comments

High quality troll. Well done OP.

7.859/10.

No one gives a shit

Edit: didn’t read, now realize it’s a joke

low iq

these friendly fires wouldn't happen if you blocked all the normies

Retardcell

I didn’t actually read before commenting. One sentence in and I realized it’s a troll.

everything you say is a lie fuck off.

Read it carefully, lowiqcel

0/10, no female would give a single flying fuck about making short men feel more accepted.

There's a higher chance that a female would become wet from "guys under 6'0" are subhuman" than anything else. A dominant genetically superior male who humiliates genetically inferior males is always a turn on for women.

A guy who keeps posturing and being an asshole to others because he perceives them to be lower in the hierarchy isn't magically going to be better than a guy who is genuine and a good person who treats other with compassion and politeness, "even" if the asshole is 6 feet tall and the good one is five feet tall. Haven't you heard of the "pay attention to how your date treats those who serve him" rule? The guy fails it, not passes it, if he treats e.g. the waiter like crap when the waiter has been nothing but kind.

A guy who keeps posturing and being an asshole to others because he perceives them to be lower in the hierarchy isn't magically going to be better than a guy who is genuine and a good person who treats other with compassion and politeness

https://imgur.com/uKUOlJT

Some women do. But they're a small minority. Plus, you still need to pass the face test. Short AND ugly = two consecutive death sentences!

Short= death sentence

Short and ugly= death sentence without any appeals

Short = firing squad

Short and ugly = needle injection or in worst cases, a 30-minute hanging just like they did for nazis in Nuremberg

All women hate short men. The ones who claim they do are virtue signaling pieces of shit.

I scratch my head, shake it, then mutter to myself "what the fuck is the point of this post?".

It's a funny shitpost that points out the mental gymnastics of a virtue signaling Stacy

all i saw was the mental gymnastics and thought wtf this is stupid. I dont even humour unfortunately.

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We in the trade like to call it, "a joke"

TEEHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

We're reaching levels of TEEHEE that shouldn't be possible.

Success Story

Hehehe

You almost had me there, goddamnit.

You basically gave me a bit of hope and shattered it immediately.

lol

It's just hyperbole comedy, not reality. In reality some women prefer tall guys, some women prefer short guys, same way some guys prefer short girls while others prefer tall girls (including taller than themselves because apparently being at a perfect height to have your face chest level has its advantages). I prefer guys my height, and I am an inch shorter than you or so. My fiance is about your height, which is a fantastic bonus since he's the guy closest to my height I've dated (that is not at all why we're together though, we both have a lot of unusual similar experiences, and more importantly we both have similar priorities in life). I have known several tall girls who dated notably shorter guys (including one who married the guy after dating not even a single full year because they just worked together too well). I've also known other "mixed height" relationships, short-short, tall-tall, short-tall. Trying to play the numbers is going to be a disservice to yourself. Just be someone men and women want to be in the company of (no faking/pretending, you have to be that person no matter who or what is around), and there will be women interested in who you are. Heck, even psycho guys easily find psycho women (which are not women you should envy them of) because they're both crazy in similar enough ways. If you fall in love with the gym, find ladies who love it as much as you do. I remember seeing a married couple where the guy was a body builder and strongman I think, and the wife a ballet dancer, because they understood and respected each other well and the hardships of their respective jobs. Learn to be a whole person, and treat yourself with kindness.

some women prefer short guys

Hahahahahahahahaha jesus christ no, settling for a paycheck doesn't count as preference

I’m willing to bet most wives with short husbands are screwing around behind his back. You can’t fight evolution, just science that tall men are seen as more attractive. That’s ok.

I just can’t stand whores who are completely fucking hypocritical and screw around saying they “prefer” short men. Bitch no you don’t you just “prefer” his money and house.

Ha, my fiance is a poor student in his 30s, who lives in a small apartment, with no inheritance. He's just wonderful to be with, funny, smart, and creative. The kind of guy you can still imagine yourself having a fun and vivid life with when you're old and grey.

Cheaters are cheaters, women who cheat aren't magically less assholey or rarer than guys who cheat. Prenups are a great idea for both parties involved if they're not assholes.

I give you 8 out of 10 Teehees

thank you for your service. short man salute!

Aight this is pretty funny lmao

Says she prefers short guys, only dates tall men; I laughed.

Username checks out

The funniest thing about the "short men lover" women is how it's always their ex who was "short" and their current boyfriend just randomly happens to be 6'2"

Idk man. My boyfriend is 5'8" and he's the tallest guy I've ever dated. Shorties still get the girls.

5'8 is short on 2018 confirmed. If you're a single inch below average you're a midget. It's over.

TIL I have dated midgets.

Wolverine is 5'5 and he is a badass so..

Wolverine also has bones made out of Adamantium, regeneration ability, Adamantium "claws" and centuries of combat experience.

Oh and most importantly... He doesn't fucking exist.

Oh and most importantly... He doesn't fucking exist.

Realitypill strikes again!

his actor isn't (hugh jackman), wonder why.

damn this is a good counter

My ex was short. He's my "ex" because he cheated on me, we had other problems, but the main one was HE SCREWED ANOTHER WOMAN....not because he was short. Height does not matter, at least not to me. BEFORE my ex I briefly dated a very tall guy who just didn't "mesh" with me... we connected well enough for him to be my friend, he still IS my friend. But we didn't have enough common interests to be romantic partners for life. This is how my world works anyway: Sharing interests > height

Your friend is a beta.

How about you girls send us a kiss and we call it fair

Here, have an internet kiss, for all the good that ever does anyone though :(

I really have issue with the "beta" bullshit... my friend is my FRIEND. He's not my orbiter, he's not... whatever other silly terms you want to drop on him. We dated briefly, we didn't work out as a couple. We share SOME common interests so why would I kick him totally out of my life and say "you can't hang out with me anymore, even though both of us are going to end up at the same events anyway because we both love the same band"

What was I supposed to do there? Go to a concert, see the guy I dated briefly and just run away from him instead of hanging out at his table sharing the event and grooving on the same music? The logic is pretty warped.

What internet kiss bullshit is this? Record a video

Alright, game on.

There will be no screenshots, though because he's not in a position for me to ask his permission to share right now, his work is CRAZY strict about no phones.

Still owe us that video

What video?

Here, have an internet kiss, for all the good that ever does anyone though :(

What internet kiss bullshit is this? Record a video

No.

I do not see any flirting, trying to get back together, or anything that is not on a friend-to-friend level.

His last text to me yesterday morning is basically a gripe about how now that I'm injured and can't go out he lost his best "bait" to get women to talk to him when he goes out to places he doesn't normally go.

Also he offered to come drive my car around the block a few times since I can't drive right now and you can't let a car like mine just SIT. Maybe you will see this as "beta" or whatever but I say it's what friends DO for each other. Also he's one of 2 people in the entire universe I trust with my car, I do NOT let just anyone touch my baby.

Ok, for starters I am gonna tag you as not fun person.

After that, well I am interested in things like who usually starts the conversation, but beyond that using you as bait to catch other women is interesting. Does he usually success? What is it like for you when he success? Does he also success on his own?

Also he offered to come drive my car around the block a few times since I can't drive right now and you can't let a car like mine just SIT. Maybe you will see this as "beta" or whatever but I say it's what friends DO for each other.

Beta defines any underhanded strategy in which a person tries to get the most brownie points so he maybe gets a chance in the mid-long term, so the question is would he do this shit for any of his male friends?

If I were him said friend should've treated me specially well for a long time, so the question is what do you do for this guy, esentially.

Well... I've read stuff that leads me to believe that guy friends do "wingman duty" for each other. I do "bait" for him. He has a shyness thing, can't talk to people, definitely can't talk to women he's interested in. So when he and I go to music events, I will go talk to women he says are cute and bring them back to our table and kinda act like a go-between til he gets enough beer in him to get over the shy and start talking to the girl himself. Hmm... maybe that makes me his "pimp" I dunno, it's just a thing we do he and I.

I'm pleased when he and whatever girl get really chatty and connect, if it's going well I just kinda "vanish" in a way... go hang out in a different part of the venue, talk to other people, go find a different table to sit at. He can and does succeed maybe 75% of the time when we do it this way, but it usually doesn't last past that one night. :( Second dates with women he meets this way fail 90% of the time, his shyness and the way he is when he's not buzzed doesn't seem to work for keeping something going. Also because of the way he dresses women think he's rich. He ISN'T rich he just dresses very nicely. Too many of them ghost on him when they go on a second date to a cheaper place and he's not spending a lot on drinks like he does when he goes out to big events. I keep TRYING to get him not to spend so much money on drinks the first night... he keeps NOT listening to me. Oh well, nothing I can do but keep saying it and hoping it sinks in.

He dated my good female friend that he's holding onto in the picture for a few years. The money thing killed that too, I was mad at her for a long while over that, told her she was a dumbass... I love her dearly, but she has her bad side and the bad side of her is materialistic as hell. :(

When he had walking pneumonia I basically camped out at his house, fetched food, fetched medicine, did the laundry and dishes, walked his dog...y'know all the stuff you can't really do for yourself when you're too sick to get out of bed. Right now I'm having a big medical thing so he's helped me. Friends DO that, when your friend is sick or hurt you help them, right?

He called me at 4am once for help because the fool never learned how to change a tire and didn't have roadside assistance so I took a 100 mile trip to go "save" him off the side of the road... couple weeks later I insisted he come over to my place and practice and learn to change a tire, every human who drives a car should know how to do that.

I personally don't do things for him to "get anything out of it"... he's my FRIEND, if he needs me or wants my help I'm there.

Ok, there is a lot of bad things so lets unpack them one by one:

So when he and I go to music events, I will go talk to women he says are cute and bring them back to our table and kinda act like a go-between til he gets enough beer in him to get over the shy and start talking to the girl himself. Hmm... maybe that makes me his "pimp" I dunno, it's just a thing we do he and I.

Ok, so first of all if you go all wingman for him you should tell him to man up and go talk himself and you will be the backup. There is no point in you going for him all the time, you will enable him instead of helping him fix the problem.

I would've loved a girl friend as cool as you seem to be, but I would've respect one that would've helped me when I fail miserably.

I will say nothing about the pimp thing as you already did.

He can and does succeed maybe 75% of the time when we do it this way, but it usually doesn't last past that one night.

Ok so if he is not getting laid we are not increasing the morale here...

Second dates with women he meets this way fail 90% of the time, his shyness and the way he is when he's not buzzed doesn't seem to work for keeping something going. Also because of the way he dresses women think he's rich. He ISN'T rich he just dresses very nicely. Too many of them ghost on him when they go on a second date to a cheaper place and he's not spending a lot on drinks like he does when he goes out to big events. I keep TRYING to get him not to spend so much money on drinks the first night... he keeps NOT listening to me. Oh well, nothing I can do but keep saying it and hoping it sinks in.

We are literally lowering the morale here if the girls he's planning for second dates ghost him (which is also a fucking awful thing to do, btw). Tell him you will not help if he doesn't cut the crap. He can dress as he fucking pleases but getting brownie points with alcohol does not work, you know it, I know it, everyone knows it. If he is that interested in the girl, she can get the first round and he will the second one or each one gets their shit and we do not try to manipulate each other.

He called me at 4am once for help because the fool never learned how to change a tire and didn't have roadside assistance so I took a 100 mile trip to go "save" him off the side of the road... couple weeks later I insisted he come over to my place and practice and learn to change a tire, every human who drives a car should know how to do that.

The fool should know better than to ask a female friend to help him change a fucking tire. Also hope there was no "overnight" sleeping in Bumfuck, AZ. because of this terrible accident because I am about to burst into a maniacal laugh.

First thing... that I really wanna say here, and then I'll get to addressing the rest

The fool should know better than to ask a female friend to help him change a fucking tire. Also hope there was no "overnight" sleeping in Bumfuck, AZ. because of this terrible accident because I am about to burst into a maniacal laugh.

He asked me to help because he KNEW I know how to change tires. I'd already done it once before on one of our road trips to a concert. I'm a little bit of a car-girl ok. I know some small basic roadside repairs shit. He knows absolute 0 about anything about cars. A lot of guys don't... Don't use that tired old "women can't work on cars" bullshit. Don't be an ass like that. ANY human, male OR female can learn to change a tire and everyone who drives SHOULD know how to do that. Is why I made sure my friend learned how to do it himself.

It didn't turn into "anything", we got his tire changed, we got us both home ( to our different houses ). All went well.

How short? I doubt he was 5'6.

Im 5 6 and do fine with women

I doubt you look like shit facially.

Im asian and have negative tilt eyes with avg jawline. Overall im probably avg

Asian with money now leave here

My parents make less than 100k a year. Pretty sure im classified as middle class at best. Whats your next cope?

That's high class where I'm from and parents? How old are you 16

Im in the US and trust me thats very middle class. Im in mid 20s now

You must be in a rich city that costs alot to live. If i got 100k a year im pretty sure some broke girl would try to convince me she wants me till she bettered herself then she's out the door with tyrone.

I dont get 100k a year. My parents have a combine income of 90k a year. I feel like youre not understand what a household income means. It means that 90k is for the whole family. Also its not even my money, my income is negative. Education in the US cost alot.

So you are in college? Are you saying your poor and have a girlfriend and average to ugly ?

Im saying im not some 10/10 chad and im not rich either. Dude if we dont count my school expenses, i live on less than 20k a year.

And yes ive done well with women. Point is it’s not all about looks. Looks matter, just not as much as black pill makes it to be.

Then you might be a high end normie.around a 7 or 8 ,that has height ,drives,and goes to college ? Yeah I rest my case,probably with good parents too

I really doubt my face is anymore than a 6 at best. I already told you im 5 6 so i dont have height. Im very educated so that is true. As for drives... everybody drives so i dont think thats much of a feat.

Parents are... supportive? Idk what good parents has to do with dating.

Idk what case you are resting. My existence kind of proves black pill to be bullshit tbh

It doesnt,because no not everybody drives. To women that's a big thing if you can ride them around. Having good stable parents is big. Do they allow you to have a gf over ,treat her well and all that. Alot of people have fucked up families and poverty family's like me,when I lived with my mom and her husband they wouldn't even let a girl over with me if I got one,if they did they'd be a total embarrassment because they are on drugs and alcoholics. You got some status going to school or with your education. That tells them you either are going to be successful or already are. You probably work too I assume which you got money. And you are a little above average. So yeah I can see all that getting a gf .

He was 5'6".... I am 5'7", flat footed I wear heels a lot to go out so I CAN be almost 5'11" or so.

Ok I am likely going to regret this, but I will post some pix.

Disclaimer : I have a friend who is a professional photographer... there was one time my ex complained that in all our "together" pictures, he looked like my little brother. My photographer friend taught me this trick of bending a leg and dropping my opposite shoulder so I looked closer in height to someone standing next to me. I started automatically posing like that any time someone pointed a camera at me and my ex. I personally think I look WEIRD in both of these. These were kept because they are from really good nights out with good memories attached to them.

So... in this one from left to right : 2 members of a band I love, my ex, me, my friend that loves the same band ( the guy I dated for 4 months BEFORE I dated my ex )

https://imgur.com/stpLArX

This one from left to right : Friend who does soundboard for all the local concerts, my longtime female friend, my friend who loves the same band, me, my ex ( pre-show at another concert )

https://imgur.com/oYV0804

Your ex was saved by his face. If he were ugly and short he'd be posting on this forum right now.

Well I thought he was damn good looking anyway. Isn't that all that counts? What I thought of him / what he thought of me ... lookswise?

... it's PART of the reason I dated him... are we not supposed to date people we're attracted to now? Looks were not ALL of the reason I dated him.

If you had put my ex's personality, talents, ability to make really bad but also awesome puns, his sense of adventure, the sweet things he said to me.... and everything that made him HIMSELF into a whole other body... if there were some other physical form with the same brain, same behaviors... I would have had the SAME amount of interest in that.

You most likely wouldn't. Let's be real

I just said I would, I don't fuckin' lie to people.

When I get attracted to someone it's a combination of ALL of them, looks are only a PART. If you put the brain of a person I loved and wanted to BE with in someone else's body...I would still end up staying together with them.

Dude, I'm only human... the first few months of "it's your brain in a stranger's body and this is some fucked-up sci-fi shit, babe" is going to happen. It's going to be weird for the BOTH of us.

But I could adjust as long as they were still the SAME person mentally.

For gods sake stop hanging out as friends with guys you dated

WHY?

What the hell is WRONG with you people?

So you want ME to lose a friend, and you want HIM to lose a friend... just because we attempted to date once and it didn't mesh and work out for us?

Why would either of us DO that to ourselves?

What, you want me to stop going to my favorite band's concerts? You want HIM to stop going to the same concerts because that's his favorite band too?

You just want us BOTH to lose something good in our lives and have our happiness in life diminished just because we dated once and didn't "make it" as a couple??

Is that what you want...for he and I to both lose a friend?

Your attempt at dating didn't 'not work out' from his perspective. Of course he's going to pretend the romantic disinterest is mutual. You're tormenting him by being 'platonic friends'.

Holy shit, brutal.

Do you know how I know this is true?

No need fam, I'm on the gravy train

Very good. This silly roastie still actually believes the breakup was mutual.

Oh no, our attempt at dating didn't work out from BOTH our perspectives.

Here's why he and I did not continue as a couple.

We have mutual interests and stuff in common, some pretty big ones... we connect on music in a BIG way, fashion and style, books we like is maybe a 30% connect but we can talk books together.

BUT... we can't share everything deeply. HE doesn't not like the outdoors, I do... a lot. We TRIED... I took him on one camping trip and he was miserable and uncomfortable and hated it and we went home a day early because basically being in the woods is a kind of hell for him ( Why would I put someone I cared about through hell? )

So... as a "couple" the choices were... drag him out camping and make him miserable....OR...go without him and leave my boyfriend home alone all weekend. Neither option would make the BOTH of us happy.... I want to go out in nature and enjoy myself, I want my partner to go out WITH me and enjoy it just as much, I don't WANT to leave my partner out of a big part of my life, I want to share it.

On HIS end... the man loves to shop. He will spend an entire day trying on suits and getting custom tailoring. I only like to shop for maybe an hour at a time, sitting in a tailor shop bores me silly even if I have a book to read. He took me on one of his shopping trips and I tried to "get into it" as much as he was and I just couldn't... it's not IN me to enjoy it, the way it's not IN him to enjoy camping.

Is he single?

Yes he is :(

Come on man, in another post you said he's timid and totally socially inept around women. I assume he's fine socializing with you, so his inability around other women is a major sign that he's been totally unsuccessful in the past; that complete lack of confidence and 'artificial' inability doesn't pop out of nowhere. You've told me here that he's not currently dating... as an ugly 25 year old loser who matches your description of this guy, I'm telling you that he's still interested in you and pretending otherwise because it would humiliate him to admit the breakup wasn't mutual, especially now that he's been lying about it for months. He feels he can't turn back at this point, not least because he does value the friendship and he's afraid that the admission would make you question whether you're seen as a good friend or perhaps that he's overlooking your flaws because he wants a relationship so desperately. You have no experience with this, at least from his perspective. I do. Can you defer to my vastly superior experience in these matters? He's interested in you.

Can you defer to my vastly superior experience in these matters?

Can you acknowledge that I also have deep experience in this one matter with this one person? Experience that I feel is at least equal to yours on this issue?

We've known each other for five years, we dated for four months. Then we spent the rest of the time as each other's FRIEND. We hangout with each other on a regular basis. We know each other's ways, reactions to the point that we sometimes finish each other's sentences or "jinx" where you say the exact same thing at the same time ( on our BIG shared interest only...everything else we're a little hit and miss on, doesn't line up so spectacularly )

it would humiliate him to admit the breakup wasn't mutual, especially now that he's been lying about it for months.

He would have been lying about it for a over four years, then and I really, really doubt it... friends don't LIE to friends. I don't lie to him anyway, even if it's a shitty thing I have to say to him I say it. Example : I still try, even though it's hopeless, I try to get him to see someone about his "shyness thing"... that's just what I call it, but even though this is just armchair psychiatry, I'm no doctor... the man has legit anxiety, the kind you can get treated for. Every "do you have anxiety" test... he matches the symptoms. Stuff he does, the way he acts lines up SO spot-on with articles about anxiety and I'm not talking just the online crap, I'm talking about ones from the American Journal of Psychiatry the "real" ones.

He feels he can't turn back at this point, not least because he does value the friendship and he's afraid that the admission would make you question whether you're seen as a good friend or perhaps that he's overlooking your flaws because he wants a relationship so desperately.

I question the hell out of whether I'm a good friend to him all the time... I dunno if I'm helping, I dunno if I'm hurting his chances. I don't know whether since we've both been single so long we should try again?

Nothing has changed with either of us, the things he and I don't mesh on are STILL the same, but we do share some things deeply so maybe that's "enough". Then if we do THAT what if there is a better girl out there for him that's MORE of a mesh with him than I am and he misses out on that because of loyalty to me....so he shoots himself in the foot for a chance at real BIG happiness and a better partner and ends up with me, who isn't his "best partner" I definitely don't think he should just "settle" for me I couldn't make him 100% happy... trying to force myself to be different, or trying to force him to be different would just diminish the BOTH of us, lead to resentment, and likely kill what we DO have together which is "we each have a really good friend in our life"

He's interested in you.

I will flat out ask him that later when he's free to talk. I bet $1,000 he will think it's the pain pills talking though and not take me seriously. It's kinda a bad time for me to try to ask big serious questions like that, I'm injured and on drugs.

He would have been lying about it for a over four years, then and I really, really doubt it...

Then you don't understand the beta mindset. I still keep in contact with a few female friends from highschool, over a decade ago, and I still pretend I was never interested in them because to do otherwise would make them question the friendship which I've grown to value on its own merits.

what if there is a better girl out there for him that's MORE of a mesh with him than I am and he misses out on that because of loyalty to me

Does it seem even remotely likely that he's going to find a female partner who isn't you? lol, and additionally just lol at thinking that you'd let a lack of camping interest get in the way of a relationship if you were actually attracted to a man.

Everything you've said points to a tragic beta-male-in-oribit situation. Obviously don't ask him directly whether he's still interested, just know he'd date you if that was a possibility. He might need to invent a story explaining his sudden interest but unless he's exceptionally stubborn and dedicated to the lie, he'll come around. It'll seem like he's been secretly interested this whole time ;)

Does it seem even remotely likely that he's going to find a female partner who isn't you?

YES. He could do better. Since everyone on here is all about the looksmatch, he mogs me appearance-wise for one thing. His brain is another area he's mogged me on... He does "genius level big deal work"... I'm not dumb, but I'm just not as smart as him that way.

I know I can't be "his match"... we match at friend-level, not "spending the rest of your lives together"-level.

lol at thinking that you'd let a lack of camping interest get in the way of a relationship if you were actually attracted to a man.

It's way more than just a "lack of camping interest"... that's just one of the "big ones" we don't mesh on.

Everything you've said points to a tragic beta-male-in-oribit situation. Obviously don't ask him directly whether he's still interested, just know he'd date you if that was a possibility. He might need to invent a story explaining his sudden interest but unless he's exceptionally stubborn and dedicated to the lie, he'll come around. It'll seem like he's been secretly interested this whole time ;)

There have been more times than there are stars in the sky that I've wondered if we're just some stupid cliche bullshit tragedy that could have been prevented ok.

$1000!!!

Now I'm rich and can buy myself a bitch.

Nobody took the bet, unfortunately.

You're ITALIAN CHAD!!

Go read up a few when you get on!!

I'm not interested in dating or having a relationship with my friend.

Thanks.

We want different things. Being platonic friends isn't a torment.

It's only platonic from the female end

Of course, and you know this because you live in the heads of two people you've never met and know exactly how they think and feel.

some degenerate looking people there

We're goths, we're SUPPOSED to be degenerates, according to a lot of small minded people anyway.

Let me check my "Handbook of Gothness"..... yup, rule 44 "You gotta be a degenerate to be a REAL goth"

i don't know what goth is, i was just talking about your actual looks, you people are ugly

Yeah, probably.

So isn't "looksmatching" a thing? Here we are... a whole bunch of ugly people hanging out together at concerts having fun with each other.

Are ugly people not allowed to have fun and have friends? Because that's just damn stupid!

not usually a thing no. a small minorty of women will accept a man that is her looksmatch. Most women think they are +2-4 points higher than they actually are.

I am not a conventionally good looking woman. I am short, I have a bony sharp nosed kinda masculine "alien face". I have weird teeth. I think my eyes are crazy awesomely beautiful but it's my one "really good feature"

I don't really have an accurate gauge to rate myself.

I know what I personally find attractive in a man, and that's what I think I belong with......BUT... I guess I don't have an accurate gauge to rate other people either. I was trying that a little bit last night, rating people online and it was people who had issues with their looks or thought they were ugly and I just didn't see the "ugly".

zashto mislite che mojete da pomognete tezi hora?

What language is that? Google translate says Bulgarian... also it says it means " you have mislead you to help the mountain " But if you say it aloud it kinda sounds like this Russian phrase I've heard before.

Never mind. I assumed you were Bulgarian from your username

My handle is the name of a character from a TV show plus the year the character was born in. Sorry.

I like learning new phrases in other languages though. Thanks for that.

OooOo

So you dated Italian Chad. All you have proven is face&race > height

I thought I proved the opposite, since I chose to date someone shorter AFTER the....

Y'know I just can't stop laughing at "Italian Chad"

At least you're not calling my friends ugly degenerates.

So what's my ex then ( the short guy ) .... is he "Mexican Chad"?

No, you proved race and face are more important than height, proven by you dating a short handsome white guy. Idk what your other ex looks like so I don't know if he is Mexican Chad or not

https://imgur.com/stpLArX

The short guy standing next to me is the ex

And there's that "Italian Chad" again, who is still my very good friend.

That's a pretty good picture of them both.... The tall guy and I mutually broke up.. then I dated the short guy...

Height means nothing, looks don't mean everything.

You keep going on and on and on about looks. It's 25% of the total of attraction.

Personality, connection, shared interests. These things are the 75% that's important.

According to incel theory I should go chase after the best LOOKING guy out there, regardless of whether he's dumb, boring, has no hobbies, is a jerk to me etc.

Why would ANY rational human put themselves in a position of being miserable in a relationship just because someone's hot?

I see people do this all ALL the time, because 10s ( male and female ) don't ever HAVE to develop any life skills, personality, intelligence... they just show up get shit handed to them on a silver platter because they look great. So you date one of them.. and it's miserable because they are dumb, and boring and they're either mean little bitches, or arrogant bastards.

The short guy is Italian chad.

Even more hilarious... he's of Mexican descent

The tall guy is actually half-Italian, his mom's from Italy, he even speaks the language.

Then he's Mexican Chad

Well now I can actually agree with you, he was an unfaithful bastard.

I didn't think I had chosen poorly, but I did.

Damn not only did he get you but also managed to get another girl. Race&Face > Height absolutely confirmed.

You mean face > height.

No, I actually MEAN : Sharing interests > height

My friend is a good looking guy, I did actually date him FIRST.

10/10 shitpost

level 4 norman here. top quality meme

Ok, this sub has reached a level of post-irony where I am 95% sure that the troll to actual incel rate of posters is 17 trolls per 1 incel. Some of these post are amazing lol.

There are literally women like this on /r/short. Look up the thread from a few weeks ago made by a woman asking "so what can wen do for short guys" or something made by a 5 foot girl dating a 6'4" guy.

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My current boyfriend is 7'8''

Holy shit, are you dating a nephilim?

I like short guys tehe

Females are not attracted to short men. They want tall dick and tall men.

what fucking more does a women have to tell you?

I hate short men: WOMEN ONLY LIKE CHADS WHAT DISCRIMINATION

I really like short men: WOMEN ONLY LIKE CHADS WHAT DISCRIMINATION

like nothing anyone says is enough for you fuck

Don't give a fuck about your whiteknight cuckest soldier. Women like tall dick and tall men. Women like tall dick and tall men. WOMEN LIKE TALL DICK AND TALL MEN!

Does a random fucking whore need to spit tall men seed in your fucking face to make that clear to you?

And if yes, you swallow?

I hope you understand that it’s not your looks that are getting in the way of finding love, it’s your personality and general outlook on women. You’re not a fucking victim. If you want change, change for the better.

Fuck you cuck, you don't know how this shit works. All the posts and submissions being made here including my own comments have been approved by a board of females as "GREATFUCKINGCONTENT".

You don't get it do you? We have a female mod here and every submissions is send to her orbit gang and the female commission for general state of approval.

The more you fucking know right? Fuck sake.

Right, tell a women how “femoids” work. I’m very happy for you, you seem to be content in your eternal state of anger.

I'm not angry, I'm happy because I'm gonna eat pizza soon. You just need to recognize how big the incel culture has gotten over the years, whether you hold a positive or negative opinion towards it, buddy.

I’m part of loving myself and not trying to tear others down for my own personal gain. I’m part of understanding that maybe if things are going bad, it’s because of something i’m doing. And i’m not mad, you’re the one calling me a “fucking cuck”. I was trying to reason but you seem to just create fallacies so what’s the point. I’ll leave you to your community.

Oh suuurreee, humblebrag yourself outta this discussion, you ain't part of fucking shit.

Bullshit yourself as much as you want cuckerina, you're here because we're the fucking shit and we're gonna overtake Reddit.

First we conquer secondhand pussy, then Europe and then the WORLD!

You will be back.

Please tell me this is satire :')

Third handed pussy then? Fourth handed pussy? I know, her pussy being just only once can definitely be satire.

I'm just guessing you're a troll. Also what do you mean by secondhand pussy? Like you're the second person to have sex with her? I actually don't understand

You do understand. I'm not a troll, you are. Are you incel?

I'm just a Normie female I guess, but I seriously don't understand what you meant. Do you mean like how many times that pussy has been around? Or the attractiveness of said pussy? Lol I'm not trying to piss you off, just curious.

How many times that pussy got being passed around like a cigarette. Roast that beef like no tomorrow! Good you agree with me!

Yo slag, what's crackin'?

This is so true. I have dated a guy shorter than me and been attracted to many guys shorter than me. I have never been attracted to a guy so rude and hateful. If this guy looked like Hugh fucking Jackman and had the same personality I would stay the fuck away.

So first you gonna talk shit behind my back about me and then act like the 'curious normie female' you are and say I'm trolling? FUCK YOU, CUNT.

Lmaoooo, I didn't even realize you were the same person from the other thread. You have to admit that this comment was pretty vulgar. You are making assumptions about all women. Can't you just look at people as individuals? I am curious to why and how you guys get to the state of hatred you're in. I was reacting to your comment. Heck dude, I'll be a genuine friend if you want me to be. I'm not judging you, I'm just saying I personally couldn't be with someone who is so angry. I just want to know what it takes to get an incel from a self loathing,woman hating person; to someone who is happy with themselves and can create the relationships they seem to crave.

Who cares honestly, what always baffles me is why women give a fuck about incels. Seriously, why do you care lol? And why do you want to be my friend? Not that I'm disgusted by that just that I'm a but surprised. I cussed you out, maybe the alpha mindset is attractive to women!

Friendships with women usually is not that intimate. Which makes literally every friendships with women 10 out of 10 times useless.

Anyway, we can voice chat on Discord if you want. Not text chat, because honestly that shit is getting old as fuck. I'm not some beta shit that let a random foid tell me who I am or who I am not.

It's just you have what I perceive as an extreme view and I just want to understand it more in depth. Sure I would discord with you and be cordial. I'm kinda shy so it would initially be awkward but I'll get over it eventually.

Nice! At the moment I'm eating fastfood with a female foid friend. I will be on Discord soon! You can PM me.

We need to build trust first though. Through discord type chat although I'm not a hardcore fan of it. I need to know if I can trust you and not pass me over to CuckTears.

It's funny, but in reality, tall men don't hate on short guys, it's only women who do. Short guys are just invisible to some women, whereas other women actively seem to be disgusted by it.

That's where your wrong boyo. I'm 6'2" and I hate men under 6'0" so much. They're inferior and pathetic excuses for men--if they can even be called men.

Same here. Completely agree.

How'd you become so tall?

hanging from a bar

NO UR NOT U FUCJIGN KLLAIR

........................................Lol

LMFAO high quality bait 10/10

Well I thought he was damn good looking anyway. Isn't that all that counts? What I thought of him / what he thought of me ... lookswise?

... it's PART of the reason I dated him... are we not supposed to date people we're attracted to now? Looks were not ALL of the reason I dated him.

If you had put my ex's personality, talents, ability to make really bad but also awesome puns, his sense of adventure, the sweet things he said to me.... and everything that made him HIMSELF into a whole other body... if there were some other physical form with the same brain, same behaviors... I would have had the SAME amount of interest in that.

Ok, for starters I am gonna tag you as not fun person.

After that, well I am interested in things like who usually starts the conversation, but beyond that using you as bait to catch other women is interesting. Does he usually success? What is it like for you when he success? Does he also success on his own?

Also he offered to come drive my car around the block a few times since I can't drive right now and you can't let a car like mine just SIT. Maybe you will see this as "beta" or whatever but I say it's what friends DO for each other.

Beta defines any underhanded strategy in which a person tries to get the most brownie points so he maybe gets a chance in the mid-long term, so the question is would he do this shit for any of his male friends?

If I were him said friend should've treated me specially well for a long time, so the question is what do you do for this guy, esentially.

i don't know what goth is, i was just talking about your actual looks, you people are ugly

zashto mislite che mojete da pomognete tezi hora?

I didn’t actually read before commenting. One sentence in and I realized it’s a troll.

I just said I would, I don't fuckin' lie to people.

When I get attracted to someone it's a combination of ALL of them, looks are only a PART. If you put the brain of a person I loved and wanted to BE with in someone else's body...I would still end up staying together with them.

Dude, I'm only human... the first few months of "it's your brain in a stranger's body and this is some fucked-up sci-fi shit, babe" is going to happen. It's going to be weird for the BOTH of us.

But I could adjust as long as they were still the SAME person mentally.

I'm not angry, I'm happy because I'm gonna eat pizza soon. You just need to recognize how big the incel culture has gotten over the years, whether you hold a positive or negative opinion towards it, buddy.

No, you proved race and face are more important than height, proven by you dating a short handsome white guy. Idk what your other ex looks like so I don't know if he is Mexican Chad or not

Please tell me this is satire :')

How many times that pussy got being passed around like a cigarette. Roast that beef like no tomorrow! Good you agree with me!

Yo slag, what's crackin'?