This is the only Place that I don’t feel horrible about being a virgin

72  2018-04-04 by GeneticCleansing

In normaland, being a Virgin is freakish. It’s looked down upon. If you are one, you wear it with shame and try to pretend that you aren’t one.

Here, it’s different. We don’t try to hide it anymore. We’re free. The weight is removed from our shoulders. The feeling of inferiority to everyone around me is gone.

Thank you guys for existing. Feeling alone in inceldom is the worst.

148 comments

No one cares about you being a virgin. You might be surprised but normal people where also virgins once in their life. I am not sure this "community" could help you, drag you down for sure. I just hope you don't become one of those bitter and hateful incel which this sub is full of. How old are you?

Yeah, they were, not anymore. There's a point where it's not normal to still be a virgin. This community did more for me than I ever found out on my own.

I was a virgin until a late age, around 25 maybe. I remember I felt rejected but more because of my own perception. Nobody made fun of me or anything, people didn't care. I felt embarassed myself. I get your point but I think this feeling of not being normal is hard to live for you but others really don't care.

Just because you were never shamed and ridiculed for being a virgin doesn't mean it never happens, you know.

Yes it happens, just like it happens that people bow down as they see me for being the supreme stud that I am.

Should avoid that “supreme” word though...as its been contaminated by the “supreme gentleman”....lol that guy...

The Supreme Stud, thats what I am

Sometimes I throw my kitchen appliances out of my window in alphabetical order while singing Auld Lang Syne.

See, I can say stupid shit too :)

You're just projecting, the fact that virgin shaming is accepted and so prevalent already proves you wrong.

Nope. Virgins aren’t shamed and you have no scientific peer reviewed studies or evidence to prove your claim(not that these studies were accurate to begin with). You are pulling something out of thin air.

but dude why do you post the same comment three times.

Nope. Virgins aren’t shamed and you have no scientific peer reviewed studies or evidence to prove your claim(not that these studies were accurate to begin with). You are pulling something out of thin air.

Nope. Virgins aren’t shamed and you have no scientific peer reviewed studies or evidence to prove your claim(not that these studies were accurate to begin with). You are pulling something out of thin air.

Nope. Virgins aren’t shamed and you have no scientific peer reviewed studies or evidence to prove your claim(not that these studies were accurate to begin with). You are pulling something out of thin air.

They are hopeless and they created their own hell. Theres a lot of covert narcissism in them as well I think and trying to shake them up is like trying to convince Hitler it is wrong to kill all jews.

Not gonna happen.

Nope. Virgins aren’t shamed and you have no scientific peer reviewed studies or evidence to prove your claim(not that these studies were accurate to begin with). You are pulling something out of thin air.

You want a scientific study to prove that virgin shaming exists?

Seems like a real fucking stupid thing to argue, but if you're arguing it, then hey.

http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1060826518758974

This project explores “virgin-shaming,” a phenomenon whereby an individual is called out or made fun of for lacking sexual experience among college men. To investigate this phenomenon, interviews were conducted with 10 men enrolled at one university. Analysis revealed three key findings. First, having sex is often held as a marker of status or achievement of hegemonic masculinity. Second, virgin-shaming is found in social spaces more concerned with upholding masculine norms. Third, virgin-shaming can be used both as an invocation to reassert one’s masculinity and, relatedly, a taunt to encourage others to start having sex. Results highlight how virgin-shaming not only creates stratification within some groups of men but also perpetuates male dominance within society more broadly.

BTFO.

Youre tarded, science is for retards like you.

13 hours later and they definitely shut the fuck up.

First of all, learn how to use reddit. You literally spammed 10 posts, you can also edit your own comments so do that instead of commenting twice (or 10 times in your case)

Second of all, fuck off with your peer reviewed studies, just go online. It's totally okay to make fun of virgins, virgin is used as an insult all the goddamn time.

First of all, learn how to use reddit. You literally spammed 10 posts, you can also edit your own comments so do that instead of commenting twice (or 10 times in your case)

It's hilarious how in this topic that 1/3 of the failed normies are making themselves look like complete idiots, yet they are the more prevalent ones in society. Lol we are fucked. Hermitceling may be my future.

If nobody cares then why are we constantly insulted for it? Or do you just mean that you don't care?

Not normal? Who gets to decide what’s normal???? Are you hearing yourself right now?

Not normal? Who gets to decide what’s normal???? Are you hearing yourself right now?

Not normal? Who gets to decide what’s normal???? Are you hearing yourself right now?

Random stories over the net don't make a law. And to be honest, unless you tell a woman, most of the time she won't notice you are a virgin. You can be clumsy or nervous the first time with a woman even if you are not a virgin. My first, I didn't tell her, she didn't notice and it was great.

Your anecdote > Random stories from other people.

You are such full of shit.

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Science says otherwise.

First, having sex is often held as a marker of status or achievement of hegemonic masculinity. Second, virgin-shaming is found in social spaces more concerned with upholding masculine norms. Third, virgin-shaming can be used both as an invocation to reassert one’s masculinity and, relatedly, a taunt to encourage others to start having sex. Results highlight how virgin-shaming not only creates stratification within some groups of men but also perpetuates male dominance within society more broadly.

Get 100$, Buy a prostitute, become a normal functioning member of society.

If he’s like most on this sub, he’s probably picky about his pussy. Not wanting to fuck a ‘roastie’. Only pure virgins are worthy of most incels

this but unironically and unsarcastically

lol just commit a serious crime and damage your future finances by being registered as a sex offender bro xd

how would you feel if nobody of the opposite sex found you desirable? ever tried experiencing empathy? you should look it up online.

buy a prostitute, become normal functioning member of society fucking lol how does one make the leap that escortcelling somehow makes you a functioning member of society

I'm an escortcel but yeah what he said is just dead wrong.

My sorry ass had to pay for sex. But still fail at regular dating.

escortcelling doesnt exist, its a word you made up. Its not a thing, retard.

There is no excortcel because you made up that word. If you fucked with a prostitute, you are not virgin, period. Virgin and non virgin are things. Escortcel is the langauge of your mental retardation land.

See? Being a virgin is literally seen as being a nonfunctional member of society.

While this normie is equating virginity with being complete deadweight to society, others are arguing that "nobody cares" that you're a virgin.

Get your game on.

You’re the one saying you feel weird being a virgin, just go get a prostitute and move on with life, there’s more to life than girls and sex. When you let your life be defined by sex, you’re inadvertently letting women control your life. Don’t be a bitch and let that happen.

If theyre really that hideous then getting a prostitute is a good idea (I dont think it is in most other cases).

Then, they should stop being obsessed with sex as they are. They seem to have no basic self control. And also stop being obsessed about what others think of them.

But due to their mental issues they reject any help and find excuses.

That is normal. Filth feels at home with its own kind. A parasite is not welcomed anywhere other than with other parasites and with the host it is currently harming.

You are free to be vile, disgusting abominations. And fortunately everywhere else everyone is free to treat you as the affronts to nature you are.

So feel good here, pathetic little incel, like the cornered animal you are. Feel good while you are killed softly by the world's contempt, so softly you don't even realize it.

Now, incels, I want you to take a good look at this person. He feels good by bashing vulnerable people on the internet with a throwaway profile.

If you ever think you’re below everyone, just remember that people like him exist.

your life is so shit that you stalk a niche community of guys going through issues, anonymously, and you still don't even have the balls to use a main account, so you use an alt

all at 1AM on a weekday

Mein Face When

Is this a... what day is this?

well I live off welfare checks and sleep all day so everyday just blends together

BUT my Lenovo says it's wendesday

Ain't 1AM where I'm from, detestable, xenophobic, waste of genetic resources freak

so fragile it's justifying itself

K E K

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Ah, so at the prospect of being wrong, the wild incel continues to find justifications for his wrongness.

Sad and pathetic. But what more could be expected from detestable little freaks?

Incel Delenta Est

Oh well.

Whatever.

Nevermind.

Well, I'm not an incel, and I still think you're a fucking asshole. Or just a bad troll.

Don't use latin if you can't even spell it right, child.

Shouldn't you be out other friends buddy? Or you know, doing literally anything else. JFL

JFL @ the mods letting this stay up.

True but most people are worthless parasites, and thats fact, and anyone denying that is retarded and a parasite, and worthless.

dude, no one actually cares if you're a virgin. no one probably even knows unless you tell them. most people probably don't care enough about you to even think about it

?

"?" what? you stated that "no one cares if you're a virgin", but reality doesn't work like that. my link is a good example of women caring about their potential sexual partner's virginity.

Internally, I was screaming at myself to not laugh, not make a face, not judge. He definitely didn’t need that -- and really, he should get points for honesty, right? But outwardly, I was ultra-calm.

I mean, this is obvious to most people when they're not arguing with incels, but when they are, people love to deny every single thing we say, even those things accepted by most people as being true. we all know being a virgin is looked down upon by society; or are you gonna claim that, for example, you've never heard anybody use the word "virgin" as an insult? come on, get real.

an opinion piece on a magazine-esque website targeted at women? yeah that doesn't reflect how other people view you and that's an incredibly specific situation, with someone that didn't even know until it actually became relevant to them whether or not you're a virgin is irrelevant to most people you interact with

bwahahahahah

Denying of lived experience, again. How utterly, utterly predictable.

have you ever actually asked anyone if they knew or cared you were a virgin has anyone ever actually brought it up

Yeah. And when I said she was my first, it all quickly went to shit.

it's not just an opinon on a website, it's a real person's opinion of somebody who's a virgin. the sudden reveal is not the only reason she wanted to laugh at this man's face because of his virginity, she also wrote

For a split-second, I did consider another possible plan: Come back at a later date for the mercyfuck. [...] In the end, I had to just leave his apartment and know that there was a very good chance I wouldn’t see this man again. It was just too sticky of a situation, and one that felt more appropriate for someone else to handle.

she thought it was ridiculous that a grown man was still a virgin and didn't want to deal with that. also, did you even bother reading the comments? people feel sad about the writer almost sleeping with a virgin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEuCa01iKZg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SxCsW6zop4

some women claim that virginity is a turn off, some say they don't care, and some say it's a turn on. mind you, a lot of the women that claim its a turn on think that the man willingly chose to forego sex, rather than being involuntarily celibate. it is a known fact that women are attracted to high status men, and being involuntarily celibate in your 20's+ is a clear indication that you do not have a very high social status.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-human-beast/201704/how-men-attract-women

bro, find a better obsession

is this you admitting that you are wrong? also, it took me 5 minutes to write that. how long have YOU spent in here, arguing against well known facts just because incels say them?

nope, though you're kinda digging yourself deeper in the "sad" pit. are all incels like this?

then refute my points, especially the one about women being attracted to high status men.

btw bro, find a better obsession

I could or I could do something that isn't wasting effort on incels

he wrote, right before clicking the "save" button in the incel subreddit he was currently wasting his efforts in.

y'all are sad, but can get adorable at times it's like watching a hairless possum

y'all are sad, but can get adorable at times.

Howdy pardner, y'all call me?

Here are some blackpill truths:

  1. We are incels because of the body we're born with.
  2. We aren't born hateful and misogynists.
  3. Whatever advise you have, shove it up your ass. Because we've tried them all and failed.
  4. None of you cunts give a shit about "personality" as long as the man is hot. Admit it.

I will never get tired of this bot

says "I could or I could do something that isn't wasting effort on incels" in an attempt to get out of having to refute my arguments

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continues "wasting efforts" after quite obviously giving up on the argument we were having due to having no counters

you look like a fool. go ahead and call me adorable one more time; going "lolincels" in the middle of an argument makes it obvious that you are an intellectually dishonest person. you should be ashamed of yourself for what you are doing. if you have even a single ounce of integrity in your body you will either stop replying right now or address my points. i wonder what you're gonna do...

hmm...

sorry, I fell asleep. yeah this is kind of adorable, and no I'm not going to argue with an incel

because you're wrong :2

trying to act like you're bored yet still responding says otherwise, genius.

and no I'm not going to argue with an incel

You just did. Are you always this stupid?

you really like over analysis of internet randos doncha buddy

Your quote is about adopting dipshit, go read the rest of that post

woah, yeah youre not wrong. you can definitely tell why i thought it wasnt though, right? those comments are right in the bottom of the article. they probably dont get enough comments in their site and so they're doing this trick. i didnt bother reading past the first line because of how disgusted i was.

anyway, if you actually think that people don't care about a man in his twenties being a virgin, please read this and the response i wrote after that.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Braincels/comments/89n35l/this_is_the_only_place_that_i_dont_feel_horrible/dws8jmd/

Sorry for being so agressive dude, you seem like a reasonable guy but please man they're not friggin lizards, I lost my virginity at 25, first kiss too, she thought it was sweet, we were together for two years before both splitting amicably to go to different countries. Are their dumb bitches out there who are horrible for lots of reasons? Of course. You can look at any denomination of people and find nuff that are shitty. But I swear to you fellow human, solid girls are out there.

yes there are some ok girls out there, but due to the way i act in social situations people are not very nice to me. anyway i was only disputing the "no one actually cares if you're a virgin" claim that the other user asserted.

cheers.

How do you act in social situations?

I'm very socially awkward. Not cute or "tee-hee I'm shy" socially awkward, more like "ok weirdo" socially awkward.

Looks like a glitch in the website. I think it's the same comment section placed under every article.

Did you read the next lines? The comment was about adoption, it wasn't related to the article at all.

Just don't tell anyone you are a virgin bro, works for me too, I just don't tell anyone I am a virgin and you are gucci in normaland

Because you're not a virgin.

People actually believe you're not a virgin because you're not hideous.

Try a mosque. That is another place where being a virgin isn't a problem.

Insha Allah

Reminder that EVERYBODY is accepted in a mosque. Just enter and ask for something to read.

religion is a cope

No. Religion is our redemption.

that belief exactly why it is a cope. there is no redemption.

whoever is an atheist, is INFERIOR.

ATHEISM IS SHIT, RETARD! ATHEISTS ARE INFERIOR AND AUTISTIC, RETARD!

AUTISM IS A LACK OF SOUL AND EMPTION, AND GENERATES AUTISM!

YOU DO NOT ACCURATELY ASSESS ANYTHING THAT EXISTS!

Cope. There will be no redemption for us. Once this cruel life is over, it is only darkness.

Justice will never happen, both in this life and any next ones.

This is sad but most likely true. No justice 😟

False. You are and will stay in hell.

The retarded language, assumptions, outlook and assessments of you fucking autistic fucks.

YOU ARE NOT GOOD AT LIFE AND MANAGING THE MIND AND REALITY. you are just a retard, period.

YOU ARE BAD AT LIVING AND THINKING

“its a cope” so what, fucking retard?

COPE, RETARD, COPE. You fail at that.

I don’t know why more white incels don’t 1) move to Asia to teach English and get an Asian wife whose desperate to marry a white guy 2) become ultra Christian and get a Christian wife whose desperate to get married. I’ve seen some really unattractive guys go to Japan and China and come back with wives. Also their as so many sweet Christian girls in the USA who are desperate to marry a Christian guy. Some of them are unattractive and plump but they would worship their husband. And being a virgin is a bonus.

Anyway. Just my thoughts.

LMAO! Get a christian wife, lmao. These people are so braindead.

He is right on the first. If you have clear eyes your 100% sure to find an chinese femoid.

Not where i'm from in the US. even the 4/10's think they deserve 7/10+. It's been 8 years since i last had a date. I'm a solid 6/10, 5'8(lel), and in good physical condition. I tried hitting up the shy looking 4/10 asian girls, they wouldn't even reply back.

oh yeah ethnic women in white countries are entitled as fuck. Try to move abord if you can.

To be fair you'll be contributing to misfortunes of men in the countries you're moving to.

I know I hate sexpats in my country.

I cannot, i'm stuck in a small town where every girl(very few of them) thinks she's queen and wears yoga pants. Holy crap, there this one blonde girl in my town, she's like 19 but holy crap, best ass in yoga pants i've seen in my life on internet or not.

Being a virgin isn’t looked down upon what are you talking about

No see being a cunt (not offensive where I’m from) who thinks that just because they are ugly they don’t get women and not because they either have a terrible personality/attitude or happen to be Uber shy and have never tried

Yeah, it isn't looked down upon, that's why people use it as an insult.

Being a virgin isn’t looked down upon what are you talking about

Complete delusion.

No see being a cunt (not offensive where I’m from) who thinks that just because they are ugly they don’t get women and not because they either have a terrible personality/attitude or happen to be Uber shy and have never tried

"You're a cunt because you think looks matter more than we want to admit." k. Not sure how you came up with that conclusion, but hey. I am a stupid virgin (totally not an insult btw!), so you must be right.

Virgin is the modern go-to insult when attacking men, yet normshits still deny that male virgins aren't looked down upon. This denial of reality is really insane.

I haven't heard anyone use virgin as an insult since high school lol

And here's what I don't get about incels.

Why do you think girls dry up at the thought of a virgin? If you're going after snobbish bitches that don't want to fuck you because you're a virgin, stop going after them. They don't need you. Those are the 2% of girls that prove your points. The 98% of girls that really don't give a fuck are who you should be after. If its a mental thing just don't tell them youre a virgin. Act like you know what you're doing. Read up on sex and pretend you've done it before. It really is that easy, I swear to fucking god it is.

But most likely its a confidence thing. Look, I have really bad anxiety. Horrible depression. As I'm typing this I can't find it in me to get out of bed. But when you talk to girls that you're interested in you just have to put your all into it. Do things you wouldn't normally do. Try to care about your appearance. If people think YOU care, THEY'LL care. I used to hate the thought of this because I thought I had to be happy and bubbly all of the time when I really wasn't, I was extremely distraught. In reality, you can still be depressed and come off as a well put together person. Look at someone like Robin Williams, who suffered from extreme depression, but you wouldn't really know it from talking to him for a minute or two. Because he has a front, we all do. And your front should be, "I'm confident, I don't hate my body, I don't hate all women for the actions of a few, I'm a good person and people deserve me."

hurr durr you only go for top 2% snobbish bitches

Didn't even read the rest of your wall of bullshit. You're making false assumptions, pull shit out of your ass and spew worthless platidudes we've all heard a thousand times before. Just fuck off.

Why do you think girls dry up at the thought of a virgin?

Because women are biologically wired to go after sexually successful men, as it's a sign of said men being high quality?

But I'm sure your theory - whatever it is, I would rather lie on the floor staring at the ceiling rather than read another normtard "theory" based entirely on Disney movies and Facebook posts - holds just as much merit, makes as much sense in context of evolutionary psychology, and is as backed by actual data.

Stop acting like primitive mating is the reason cunts don't fuck you. I promise a girls ability to decide if she wants to fuck you or not is not based around what Grogg and his wife did 10,000 years ago.

Well all the scientific evidence goes against what you say, but if you promise...

Science if for retarded nerds like you. Scientists are retards. Retard.

WHOEVER LOOKS DOWN ON SCIENCE IS SEXY, WHOEVER WORSHIPS SCIENCE IS A RETARDED NERD NOBODY WILL EVER FUCK.

retard.

SCIENCE IS WORTHLESS. retard.

They’re autistic nerds, and virgins because they’re autistic nerds. Autism is the reason they dont get laid, doh. Theres no autistic women, of course they are virgins. Nobody can be attracted to them mentally, because autism isnt attractive to most people...they would have to find a real weirdo woman who finds autism attractive.

Yes, they have autism.

Anyone so obsessed wth evolution scientific studies etc. That is all AUTISM. And autism is not sexy to almost all people.

So yeah, they dont get it, that the reason isn’t ‘evolutionary’ moronicism...their evolutionary theories are retarded. “hypergamy” is factually false and tarded, but theyre too tarded and autistic to get it.

Why do you think girls dry up at the thought of a virgin?

Because we know that our virginity is a symptom of serious underlying issues and should as such count as a red flag against us.

Why? Really not many people care about virginity. A lot of the time it's more about what you're doing. If you're interested in a girl, do you tell her you're a virgin straight up? If you do, maybe its less the fact that you're a virgin and more about your mindset. Stop focusing on it, stop caring about it.

Yes, virginity is a made up social concept that we decided made you a "man" or "a real woman" or whatever. Its fucked about that virgins get shit for their lifestyles and how everything's ended up in their lives. It really does. I want everyone on earth to be happy and fulfilled. But it only works if you hold it on a pedestal like that. You guys sit here making posts about how much it sucks to be a virgin because some stupid article said that girls don't like virgins.

I'm gonna stop and just recap with this:

Stop making your virginity an important aspect of your personality and maybe people will stop "caring"

stop telling people. If youre about to fuck a girl tell her beforehand if you really want to. But who the fuck says you have to let your first time know itd your first time?

But most likely its a confidence thing. your front should be, "I'm confident, I don't hate my body, I don't hate all women for the actions of a few, I'm a good person and people deserve me."

Look, you seem to have good intentions and want to help, but this isn't quite the right thing to say. Confidence is not the root issue, it's just a symptom of the real problem. Confidence doesn't exist in a vacuum. It's only seen positively if you can actually back it up with something to be confident about, whether that is your looks, skills, achievements, career, character, etc. If you can justify your confidence with these, that's great. But if you act confident without anything to back it up, you're just making a fool out of yourself.

In short, it's technically true that it's good to be confident, but only because confidence is a product of real self-improvement, not because it is some independent thing that you can make yourself feel without any justification.

As a side note, it's definitely an exaggeration to say only 2% of women look down on virgins...I mean it's not 100%, but it's way higher than 2%.

Virgin is the modern go-to insult when attacking men

And short, ugly, bald, weak, small, big...

Yeah, if you have anything wrong as a man, you will be made fun of. Even if it is something you cannot control. Meanwhile, women have created "fatphobia" to stop people from telling them that they should lose weight if they are morbidly obese.

Women have life on TUTORIAL mode.

be a virgin in the current degenerated world, is a sentence

funny, because I feel horrible being a virgin. You seem like a fakecel. This is not a support group for incels. None of us wish to be here. We just like hating on ourselves and the rest of the world.

If none of y’all wish to be here wouldn’t it be better if u gave each other more support

if none of y'all wish to be here wouldn't it be better if u gave each other more support

Howdy pardner, y'all call me?

Here are some blackpill truths:

  1. We are incels because of the body we're born with.
  2. We aren't born hateful and misogynists.
  3. Whatever advise you have, shove it up your ass. Because we've tried them all and failed.
  4. None of you cunts give a shit about "personality" as long as the man is hot. Admit it.

I’m sorry botcel but none of ur answers were about my question

Because we've tried them all and failed.

There's 12k people in here. I'm sure that a great deal of them never tried and just gave up already.

There's 12k people in here. I'm sure that a great deal of them never tried and just gave up already.

Most of those subscribers aren't even incel. Thanks for your shitty assumption.

Is it really though? It only feels like the internet is the place it's stigmatized. It's never really been an issue in my friend groups or even work-friend groups. O.o

Alright, but your friend and work group isn't representative of society as a whole.

I know, I'm saying that I don't think it's as big of a deal as op is making it out to be. Honestly the majority of people don't even give a shit about you or your life(this is including me), so there isn't really a reason to feel bad about it.

You deserve to hate yourself.

I only stigmatized myself for being a virgin when I was playing drinking games with my friends. I was thinking too much of it until I couldn't stop it anymore. They never made fun of it but I first thought they alienate me by askingso many questions. This was only in my head though. Nobody ib the real world really cares if you have sex or not

you weak humanoid

Sounds like you care too much about what people think 🤔

Not caring about what people think is a good way to end up lonely.

Ehh depends it’s all situational bro

Very true. However, I think that what he/she was trying to say is that sometimes caring about what other people think can be taken to unhealthy extremes (sometimes to the point that a person ties their entire worth to what other people think of them). Think of things like social anxiety, body dysmorphic disorder, etc.

I don't think that people's worth -- their potential, the value of their thoughts and feelings -- is determined by how other people treat them or what other people think about them. I tend to think that a conscious being (a being capable of subjective experience/qualia) is inherently valuable due to its consciousness. (However, I don't yet have a strong argument that can defend this position, and if anyone wants to give me a good argument showing that I'm wrong here, I'd very much like to hear it.)

However, note that I'm not denying that feeling rejected, neglected, and/or bullied all one's life creates a misery that is entirely separate from the misery created when someone ties the value of their existence to what other people think of them. You can tie the value of your life to intellectual achievement, and although those achievements can be fulfilling in their own way, you can also still feel lonely and depressed every day. (I do understand that these phenomena are intertwined; humans are social creatures and we feel threatened, and both drained and desperate, when we feel constantly ostracized. These feelings can lead us to think that we're worthless and that we should just die.)

I understand that searing loneliness and resentment is caused by how incels have been and are treated. But the original commenter is probably wondering whether incels would feel more fulfilled if they could somehow break free of tying their worth to the way the people around them treat them.

I'm wondering the same thing, although I know that it's more complicated than that. If someone has been constantly mistreated, they're unlikely to develop a different outlook unless further mistreatment is somehow avoided (at the very least). Again, because we're a social species, it's a natural human tendency to feel worthless if everyone treats you as though you're worthless.

"Again, because we're a social species, it's a natural human tendency to feel worthless if everyone treats you as though you're worthless."

Ya see friend, not everyone treats incels as worthless. Now what my first comment was about him feeling bad because he's being made fun of because he's a virgin. Sounds like none of those people are his friends. So why should he care what they think? He should only care about the people who seek to uplift and bring him up rather than putting him down for not being able to bang. It's ridiculous lmao. From the comment alone he sounds like a cool guy that's being made fun of because he's a virgin. @thecommenter, homie find a new group of fags to hang with. Or shootem up. Whichever is easier 🤷

No one cares if you are getting laid or not, only you care. If you look freakish or act weird then yes..

Most virgins ARE freakish and weird. You don't see a captain-of-a-football-team type being virgins, do ya. And please don't give me Tim Teabow as an example. He's a voluntary celibate. There is a 300 mile long line of women waiting to fuck him.

Yeah, stop being so fucking weird and girls will actually want to be with you. No one wants to be with the weird person... And unique and weird are two different things. Most virgins deserve to be virgins... Ain't no girl want to fuck some waifu loving microdicked tool. Chad coming fo yo girls ass tho

Hmmm, i beg to differ from some of the commenters here about "nobody cares if you're a virgin". They do. Being a virgin past 25 means there's something wrong with you (unless you're totally asexual, but even they get crap). You're viewed as a flawed human being, and they're absolutely correct. Any man with a slightest amount of sex drive should be able to get laid, UNLESS you have a flaw, be it mental, physical or both, that sends you into the life of inseldom in a handbasket.

This. It's the implication behind the virginity that matters

All the idiotic ledditors denying virgin shaming ITT is just proof that you shouldn't listen to anything they say, they are straight up delusional and/or virtue signaling

Thank you for being sane and showing some awareness

I swear whenever I come here I feel like the 'normal' redditors are 15 autistic kids with no experience in the real world. Being a virgin passed the age of 21, as a male, is a massively embarrassing and lol-worthy attribute

The trick to at least get normies off your back at work is to hit on all the girls your age and just give them that beta validation, do it on a wednesday or thursday not so close to the weekend that it ruins it. All the guys will laugh at you for not getting any and leave you alone and all the ladies will want to stay as far away from you. When you don't try is when they will gang up on you, and the worst thing that could possibly happen is you wind up with a date that will end up using you as a stepping stone to swing to the next higher branch. Thanks

hurr durr you only go for top 2% snobbish bitches

Didn't even read the rest of your wall of bullshit. You're making false assumptions, pull shit out of your ass and spew worthless platidudes we've all heard a thousand times before. Just fuck off.

Why do you think girls dry up at the thought of a virgin?

Because women are biologically wired to go after sexually successful men, as it's a sign of said men being high quality?

But I'm sure your theory - whatever it is, I would rather lie on the floor staring at the ceiling rather than read another normtard "theory" based entirely on Disney movies and Facebook posts - holds just as much merit, makes as much sense in context of evolutionary psychology, and is as backed by actual data.

Why do you think girls dry up at the thought of a virgin?

Because we know that our virginity is a symptom of serious underlying issues and should as such count as a red flag against us.

But most likely its a confidence thing. your front should be, "I'm confident, I don't hate my body, I don't hate all women for the actions of a few, I'm a good person and people deserve me."

Look, you seem to have good intentions and want to help, but this isn't quite the right thing to say. Confidence is not the root issue, it's just a symptom of the real problem. Confidence doesn't exist in a vacuum. It's only seen positively if you can actually back it up with something to be confident about, whether that is your looks, skills, achievements, career, character, etc. If you can justify your confidence with these, that's great. But if you act confident without anything to back it up, you're just making a fool out of yourself.

In short, it's technically true that it's good to be confident, but only because confidence is a product of real self-improvement, not because it is some independent thing that you can make yourself feel without any justification.

As a side note, it's definitely an exaggeration to say only 2% of women look down on virgins...I mean it's not 100%, but it's way higher than 2%.

because you're wrong :2

trying to act like you're bored yet still responding says otherwise, genius.

and no I'm not going to argue with an incel

You just did. Are you always this stupid?