At 5'0 almost every girl is taller than me and it makes me want to rope whenever I see a middle schooler that's taller than me.

You’re 5’0? Holy shit

That's horrible man,that's just a cruel curse for a guy,I thought 5'7 was horrid already

fuck, i'm just barely 5'3

Look at the bright side -- you can perform cunnilingus on your partner while standing!

middle schooler

try elementary school

I've never seen a 5 foot tall elementary schooler thank god

they definitely exist.

I've never seen one, they'd have to have a disorder to be that short.

Cope? Danny De Vito is 4'10"... make your short badass!

Just be a world-famous actor, bro

5'0 lol that sucks

Your not done growing. Women mature faster.

kek, you're 5'8 and you call yourself a manlet? then what does 5'3 make me?

Pocket size

A little bish

Fun sized

but its not fun?

How tall are you?

I'm not even 5'8 and I've got a really good looking wife who's almost 6' tall and WAY out of my league. Plus I'm fat and was broke when we met. I know that's uncommon and I got really lucky, but don't give up dude. I had the hardest time dating before we met and the one relationship I had was three years of being treated like shit and cheated on constantly. I was in a really dark place when I met my wife and she totally changed my life with her kindness. We've got a three year old daughter now and are very happy. Pic for proof. Looking back, I think pursuing tall women may be a better bet because many guys are scared to talk to them and they're sometimes self conscious about their height. My wife said she was surprised and attracted to my confidence...I'm like what confidence? I didn't think there was a chance in hell so I was just being friendly.

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If you lost weight you would be more attractive in the face than your wife.

It's something I've struggled with my whole life. I am admittedly a lazy, food addicted fatty with zero motivation to work out. I don't know why it's so hard to break that cycle...I guess I just don't care enough yet.

if it makes you feel better, you have nice eyes, and people could tell you have a nice face under all that fat

you would be chadlite if you lost weight and gained muscle

You look like a legit happy and cool guy. Congrats on your life bro.

You deserve it too, man

Thanks man. I'm not incel, I just lurk here. I legitimately feel bad for most of these dudes though and remember what it was like to feel sexually frusterated and unloved. A lot of the things they say are a little fucked up and defeatist, but I do understand.

Where do you live? Holland lol

Move. Germanic countries are filled with the most chads and the ugliest of women. Worst place to be a male.

I never realized this, but holy shit, I think you're right.

The Chad thing is near indisputable. They're all tall and Aryan looking.

I guess the "ugliest women" part would get me a lot of criticism, but I still think that they are too masculine, tall, and lanky, generally speaking. Idk

The whole "Olga" stereotype for German women comes to mind.

Is it true you guys eat pretzels with lots of butter? Also I've heard Germans live a pretty active lifestyle, is this true?

5'8" is not that bad.

depends where you live. ik it can be worse, but i'm not kidding when i say the average height where i live is almost certainly 6'1. i've lived elsewhere and people were not this tall on average (i'm moving back there btw)

It's the average height and above average for women

Where? Not in America.

I'm 5'7". I work on a college campus in the US, and I swear like 70% of the female students and faculty I see are taller than me. I'm only consistently taller than native-speaking asian women and administrative staff in their 50s.

2 words: high heels.

I don't know if I have the legs to pull them off. I am pretty sure that I can discern if someone else is wearing heals or not, though.

No, I meant.. the girls are wearing high heels or wedges to make themselves look taller. In reality, most of them are probably not taller than you.

mega cope

Is 'cope' the pseudo intellectual version of 'projecting'?

I'm not short.

That's why I wrote in the second part of my response that I believe that I am fully capable of noticing if someone is wearing heels or not. I'm not comparing myself in that situation.

they're all wearing high heels every day, huh? he's never just seen them wearing regular shoes at normal height, right? he's just another human being with no reason churning upstairs and can't possibly process how tall the average person around him is, right?

Yes and a lot only wear shoes in the gym.

Wedges are really popular. Girls even wear them under their boots.

lmao, you must think the average person is hopelessly retarded with that logic. good luck to you.

And you must never look at what people wear ever.

Even if I was an idiot, and was comparing myself to women that are wearing heels, that still doesn't make it better that they are taller than me with those types of shoes. Women want to wear heels and still have the guy be taller. (Some may tolerate the guy being of equal height to them in heels, but not all.)

Ok

it's obvious when a woman is wearing a shoe that gives her some inches. what is also obvious is her actual height, even when she is wearing them. it's not hard to deduce how tall she is, and for you to think doing so is some sort of black magic is silly. people aren't as dumb as you seem to think they are.

Yes it is obvious, so... it's odd that you dont notice.

idk what to say because i'm retarded and have been caught saying retarded things, but i'm going to comment anyway

same, it's over

5'5" here, I hate going to my little sister's highschool and realizing that 15 year old boys and girls tower over me. How can a woman ever see me as a man when I'm barely taller than a 15 year old?

Random question but how tall were you at 15?

5'3"

Same here man.

I'm shorter than all of you and have been the same height since I was 11

I've been the same height since 15. Now, I am 24.

I'm a little bit younger than you, but I'm afraid I might end up the same fate. I'm at the age where people tell me I have no chance of growing anymore. My only hope is looking at picture of other people my height who are successful in life in general, but people my height are really rare

What's your height and if you don't mind can you show me a pic of yourself? Maybe you are as cute as me.

same

At least you can hit on them without seeming creepy?

It will be creepy because short men aren't supposed to be sexual.

I wouldn't go by that there's some tall ass high schoolers I remember them days

Hot. I want an amazon to throw me on to a bed face down and then dominate my incel ass with a giant strap on until I cry

Lol

I'm not quite as deviant as you, but taller women are attractive. Being short would be a blessing if it wasn't for the fact that women refuse to date men shorter than them most of the time.

Mommy I am a naughty boy put me in time out

Even if you were Chad you still wouldn't be able to play out your fantasies. Though that really isn't a "look on the bright side" sort of thing, more like you're fucked no matter what. Oh well.

i hate it when that happens

eh, to be fair, most girls don't grow past the age of 14. So it's not any different from being heightmogged by 20-year-old girls or 30-year-old girls.

... Yes because that's somehow better lol.

I'm 5 foot 8, I was engaged to a guy whom is 5 foot 3. I don't mind short guys, usually they love the fact that they're eye level with my chest.

Yea we know you’re a girl who has a boyfriend blah blah blah

*had.

I've been single for 6 months now.

I know, i know. Not long enough for you to take me seriously. Still...

engaged

How'd it end?

He cheated on me with a married co-worker of his... she was 5 foot 1.

That sucks

I agree. Last I heard he was miserable and stuck in Lubbo'clock Texas, with his Half brother. Being a mooch.

You need to be in the bottom 5% of men to be the average height of a 14 year old girl.

You could not be anymore retarded.

lol?

Most of the people complaining are in the bottom 5%, retard.

of height?

Yes, retard, that's what were discussing here.

You're really fucking salty, aren't you boy?

Sorry, my complex is showing. Faggot.

boy

Spoken like a true slave master

leave the manlet alone, you bullying piece of shit

31 flavors and you choose salt. Retard.

That makes no sense.

The only one that deserves to get breast cancer is you, buddy.

Getting breast cancer and then dying would be better than living the rest of my life as a manlet.

The dead only know one thing; it is better to be living. I'm sorry you think pussy is more important that you life, but don't worry- you wont be going through puberty forever young man.

Haha epic bro! Totally haven't heard that one a thousand times already! Also lol if you think my misery solely comes from my lack of pussy.

Well, I'm sure being a complete fucking asshole doesnt help on that front either...

You know, you have a point. Maybe if cunts didn't reject me for my height, then they would reject me for my shitty personality - but like I said, it never gets to that point.

Also, lol if you think I waste my time talking to cunts. I'm not an orbiting faggot.

Did it ever occur to you that calling women cunts might be part of the reason they don't want to talk to you?

There's a reason you don't pet a rabid dog. A lot of women have the same view towards incels, as towards rabid dogs.

You're angry, it's no real fault of your own that you're angry, but you're still going to lash out and hurt other people.

I'm not suggesting anyone be put down, because caught in time, rabies is curable. Please seek help for the anger.

Fuck you.

If it'll calm you the fuck down, I'd be tempted.

I'm sure he calls them cunt to their face in real life xD chubby failure

>Did it ever occur to you that calling women cunts might be part of the reason they don't want to talk to you? >what is the just world fallacy

brainlet detected

If you call women cunts, and other names; if you dehumanize them. You tend to treat them differently, even if on a subconscious level.

You're anger and resentment leak through in minute ways. Thus, they will try to avoid you and turn you down.

Again, see my earlier analogy. No one wants to pet the rabid dog.

yep i forgot some random fuckwit on the internet can tell how i act in real life

what a joke please dont respond again

sighs I'm trying to help. This is Psychology 101. If you don't like someone, in this case women, even in little ways you're going to disrespect them and be unappealing. You can fake it for a bit, but eventually you're true feelings are going to bleed through.

Case in point, calling someone a slut or a whore because you didn't get what you wanted from them. Time, attention, affection... then snowballing that anger and disappointment of rejection into the next approach. Essentially echo-chambering yourself into a nasty headspace.

literally reddit armchair psychology

please just stop its too cringe. you clearly have no idea what you are talking about

You WILL live the rest of your life as a manlet regardless

Yeah, but getting cancer would reduce the pain I’m forced to deal with - ironically enough.

At one time I would have said that it is not worth it.

But nobody knows your life more than you do and if you wanna go, it must be for something!

I hope you don't want to though.

No, I’d honestly rather die of cancer than spend the rest of my life being short. If I had cancer, people would at least pretend to care about me, even if it’s only momentarily.

ubughg huur off ggrg abkoook ook ook

Lmao, to femoidkind anything below 6' might as well be 4'6", it never even began for Manlets. Femoids think everything that isn't perfect is in the bottom 5% and they refuse to even look at those kinds of men except as betabuxx.

Well that's just a lie.

Except 5'10" guys are regularly told they're too short, me for example.

You normo fucks really need to fuck off.

Yeah I heard that plenty of times, then I met my wife who didn't care. As I said in another comment, I think going after abnormally tall girls is a better bet because they're self conscious about their height and men are afraid to approach them.

I once tried approaching a tall girl at the cafeteria and she laughed in my face. Never again.

Well...I don't know what to tell you, man. I'm sure it was humiliating. I have very, very rarely had the courage to hit on women in person. Most of my dating success was on POF. I sent hundreds of messages over the years and only got maybe 5 serious replies, but at least they were decent looking girls even if a couple were fat, and I didn't have to deal with public humiliation.

Okay, you’re an exception. Your one anecdotal experience doesn’t take priority over actual statistics and surveys

I acknowledged in another comment that I'm an exception. I totally lucked out. And I certainly don't think my experience takes priority over actual statistics. But statistics are only statistics and outliers certainly occur. You've gotta keep in mind when I met my wife I was a broke college dropout, had just been laid off, and was living with my mom. I was fat and depressed and drank constantly and was clingy. I bet many of the guys here have more going for them right now than I did at the time. I mean being in college or having a job puts you way ahead of where I was.

No, I'm not saying every tall girl is fair game for a short guy. I'm saying that somewhere within the state or country that you live in, there likely a tall girl, or any girl for that matter, who thinks you're just good looking enough and likes your personality enough to make up for the height, and maybe she's even decent looking enough with a good enough personality that y'all could get along okay together.

i'm saying that somewhere within the state or country that you live in, there likely a tall girl, or any girl for that matter, who thinks you're just good looking enough and likes your personality enough to make up for the height, and maybe she's even decent looking enough with a good enough personality that y'all could get along okay together.

Howdy pardner, y'all call me?

Here are some blackpill truths:

1. We are incels because of the body we're born with.
2. We aren't born hateful and misogynists.
3. Whatever advise you have, shove it up your ass. Because we've tried them all and failed.
4. None of you cunts give a shit about "personality" as long as the man is hot. Admit it.

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I've been on Tinder, OK Cupid and Coffee Meets Bagel for fucking years and I've only gotten one accidental superlike on Tinder who deleted me immediately.

I don't even check that shit anymore because one day it's gonna drive me to the rope.

I didn't have any luck on OK Cupid or Match...POF seems to be girls with, well, lower standards. Are you being super strict on your search criteria or are you open to just about anyone? Are you waiting for them to contact you, or do you send messages? I was never once messaged by a girl I hadn't initiated contact with.

The only standard I have left is "no morbidly obese women" because having a fat gf would literally make me kill myself.

So is chubby with a pretty face okay? And again, are you messaging first or waiting for messages?

My personal preference is sickly thin women. Everything from pretty faces to "smells nice" to "shares my hobbies" is an improvement.

I'd date a chubby woman with a pretty face and I'd be damn happy because that would be the only woman who has ever found me attractive enough to date.

I message first. The volume of messages I used to send is insane. Back when I still had hope I'd spend entire weekends writing and sending messages.

Okay, so let's say you're genuinely just not an attractive person. I don't know what you look like, but you make it sound bad. There were tons of honestly really ugly women with good bodies on POF that I would never date because a pretty face is a must for me. I don't really care about weight because I'm a fatass, too. But my point is that I remember plenty of 1s and 2s on there. I'm not saying that's what you deserve, I'm saying if you really want some ass, you may have to settle. Have you tried different opening messages?

I'm not trying to put you on the spot here and if I'm wasting your time, you're welcome to just stop responding.

I don't want ass, I want a relationship. And I'm already willing to settle. I don't have high standards - the "sickly thin" thing is more of a preference of mine but it's not a deal breaker. Ugly faces, acne, bad BO, greasy hair - I'll put up with anything. I don't care. I want someone to love me.

Every one of my opening messages is different, I tried to make it unique and related to each girl, which is why I only message girls with at least partial bios.

You can't waste my time any more than I already do by LDARing all day, so don't worry.

Well that's admirable and sets you apart. It sounds like you're realistic and down to earth at the very least. I just wish I could offer SOME new perspective as an incel turned normie, but it sounds like you've tried a lot of different things already and are pretty frustrated overall. If you ever want someone to kinda proofread your opening messages and help steer you in a good direction for conversation, you are welcome to PM me. I'm a pretty decent writer and I'm comfortable talking to just about anyone.

Thanks amigo, I'll keep that in mind.

i've got some advice :)

1) go to the most grotty run down area you can think of, hit the local bar. Hit on 2/10 women (wear nice clothes, make sure their not too nice so you dont get mugged)

2) join some lgbtq club and pick up insecure crazy people

3) go tranny then lesbian

1) I will keep this in mind

2) I'm not a faggot and I will never be one

3) I have several mental illnesses and even I think trannies are fucking deranged, so no thanks.

I sent hundreds of messages over the years and only got maybe 5 serious replies

How can you possibly have exposed yourself to this much humiliation and still be standing? A single IRL rejection crushes me for weeks, I have to go into cope overdrive just to dodge the rope.

Getting rejected IRL sucks and is humiliating in my opinion. Doing it online is way easier because you don't necessarily have to deal with rejection, they just won't respond to you.

I like how incels think they know anything about women, despite being an incel

I know what you mean bro, first time I stuck my dick inside a female all knowledge of all females was downloaded into my brain

lmao i love you. Nvm, saw your post history. You're incel trash

And you're a fucking retard

Better a retard than incel trash

Not really

Because at the end of the day, a retard has a girlfriend, while the incel has reddit

You certainly don't have one. Go get treatment for your mental illness

You're so right! Not like she's on my story every other day lmao

You really were born in 01 weren't you?

And you were born in what, the 80s and still on the internet complaining about celibacy?

LOL explains everything

im 5''11 and a half ;(

is it over....

You already know the answer

feelsbadman

its over for 5%cels

Literal suifuel, I rage so much whenever I see kids taller than me. I hate my parents so fucking much.

oh this is the sweet community that I missed <3 never stop guys

same here bro, standing at just barely 5'3

They must be tall girls

lmao what are you 4'9"

You don't even wanna know what it's like in Stockholm

Hahaha ditt namn

wtf is heighmogging

Lurk moar you mentally ill cuck

y

They feel bad about themselves because they saw someone taller.

i got that, what does it stand for/break it up

i.e.

incel= involuntary celibate

sexpat= expat touring for sex

etc.

AMOG means alpha male of group.

That term started in either The Red Pill or PUA circles.

This sub puts trait in front of MOG to suggest the reason why their masculinity is negated in a given situation.

Thanks for breaking that down.

I asked. Where is my upvote?

awfully entitled :V

i love when people disable subreddit CS just to downvote others

You're welcome. If you follow the sub long enough, you'll start to understand the jargon.

It sure takes a while, though.

What is heigh then?

So, if I get this right, if I have glasses id be glassmogged if a chick didnt like me for them?

Heighmogged sounded like height mog, like op is the high guy in the group- but that would contradict his complaining

So, if I get this right, if I have glasses id be glassmogged if a chick didnt like me for them?

Nope

No, it would mean that you got visionmogged by someone who doesn't need glasses. Being mogged means you feature is inferior to that of the one who mogs you.

As far as I can tell, the guy omitted the t on accident. Or he's trying to start a new trend.

shrug

No freaking clue

Being a manlet in The Netherlands is worse I thinm

so you're aryan? must suck to be the height of the average mans arm in the nederlands.

I'm 5'9 in The Netherlands, never had an issue with it

I'm 5'8" in Germany, just fucking end me. I've literally had girls laugh at my height.

How old are You? I'm 5'7 adult and I feel bad about it but I was downtown I seen some short ass dudes today one must of been 4'11 ,one was like 5'4 ,I was like damn them are some real manlets.felt sorry for them.

As a 5'6" manlet I always feel smug and powerful when I come across a man shorter than myself. Christ, 6'4" lanklets must walk around with a permanent undeserved superiority complex.

Im 6 foot and feel that way

Lol

Faggot

*slaps the back of your head*
What are you going to do about it, little man?

Sit on you. I bet my fatass weights more than you.

fat ass-weights

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It's the other way around. I always get irrationally angry when I see someone taller than me.

being short is one of the biggest reasons why men commit suicides.

This cant be a coincidence anymore. Im 5'8" and ive been seeing a lot of tweens and teen girls/guys taller than me recently.

I honest to god think that more and more short guys are dying virgins and that women are having children with more 6'0"+ chads

Same height, been noticing the same thing for a couple of years now.

Women are actively trying to breed manlets out of existence. However, since genetics is a cruel game of fate, manlets will continue to exist granted midgets continue to breed.

Move. Germanic countries are filled with the most chads and the ugliest of women. Worst place to be a male.

lmao, you must think the average person is hopelessly retarded with that logic. good luck to you.

I'm not short.

Is it true you guys eat pretzels with lots of butter? Also I've heard Germans live a pretty active lifestyle, is this true?

Is 'cope' the pseudo intellectual version of 'projecting'?

so you're aryan? must suck to be the height of the average mans arm in the nederlands.

feelsbadman

I'm 5'9 in The Netherlands, never had an issue with it

literally reddit armchair psychology

please just stop its too cringe. you clearly have no idea what you are talking about