This group is called braincels, yet I doubt you have any because you wrote this.

Yes

The largest hate group of all time and their hate is widely accepted as well.

Cooooooope

They all specifically discriminate against non-white men

They're not doing it very well then, considering that white people are still a minority on this planet. Typical women! Can't reverse park, can't understand the offside rule, can't even manage the slow genocide of non-white people!

You’re very low IQ.

They’re a minority in terms of population because of the economy and feminism brainwashing them into not having babies and making them focus on careers.

They still prefer whites for all their non beta bucks relationships and most sexcapades other than maybe niche preferences like BBC, Chaddam, Chadpreet, Chang, Tyrone. The only time ethnics are preferred to whites while not being their race’s Chad is when they have status.

You’re very low IQ.

This is an incredibly tiresome response, and it almost inevitably comes from posters who then go on to spout something so incredibly stupid you couldn't even get UKIP voters to believe it.

Whites are a minority in terms of population because of the economy and feminism brainwashing them into not having babies and making them focus on careers.

Called it!

Whites are a minority in terms of population because the majority of the world's countries aren't white. We have never been the majority. We may be culturally dominant (though that too will eventually change) thanks to our history of showing up everywhere insisting we're the greatest thing since sliced bread, but that doesn't change the ethnic make-up of the planet.

Lol, your population is declining relatively because of economics and feminism.

You have to be dense to find any other reason. I never once said whites were the majority. Other races are becoming more dominant in terms of numbers simply because they haven’t been as affected by feminism yet. Feminism is a first world issue and most African and Asian nations aren’t first world with the exception of Japan which as you can see is dying.

You see feminism as the reason because it fits your narrative while ignoring all of the other factors.

I think the reason no one will fuck you has less to do with your looks and more to do with you being a fucking moron.

race is a massive cope

No, lol.

I’m non-white and almost half the girls I’ve had sex with have been white and 6/10 at least. Its all about certain physical traits not really race

I'm off white myself, and have mostly been with white wymyn, but it's over for curry and asiancels. They experience dating on hard mode, surely you can see that, no?

Again, don’t think so lol. It’s about attractive physical traits not race. Ofc if you’re 5’4, dark skinned and subhuman face it’s over. Pm me and I can show you my pic. I’m indian too btw but have only been called exotic or handsome by most girls

You're attractive lol come on man get the fuck outta here lol. I just meant for the average and below ethnics. They're mostly screwed.

Well I guess. I just think “white features” are the most attractive and a lot of races can have them too if you get what I mean. I’m still a mentalcel and just come here to vent about women/blackpills. Cannot really share these thoughts anywhere else..

Likewise.

Bad troll

Is it an act of hate to not be attracted to someone? I'm not attracted to obese women. Am I committing a hate crime?

You are according to the morbidly obese transgender nonbianary fat acceptance idiots.

So that makes everyone influenced by systemic bias part of a hate group?

So that would be everyone, then. Systemic bias affects everyone on the planet. Everyone is a member of a hate group?

Women are no more a "collective" than all of humanity, nor is it fair to call "having your attraction influenced" or "NOT selecting someone as a lover" an "action" in the context of hate crimes.

You're making a good point about the role of prejudices in our perceptions, then you let it unravel by trying to draw a completely bogus comparison to hate groups, such as the KKK.

Hate groups and the biases that affect us all are both relate to discrimination and prejudice. But that doesn't mean every instance of prejudice occurring in any particular group you feel like singling out (because of your own agenda) qualifies as a hate group.

• There are plenty of non-white men in relationships.
• There are plenty of short men in relationships.
• There are less than attractive men in relationships.
• I'm sure there are even virgins in relationships that haven't gotten to that stage yet.

Just because you specifically aren't in a relationship doesn't mean women are a hate group.

You act like all women want tall, white men who are attractive and non virgins.

No, not all women think the same way.

Except that they all don't.

Every heartthrob is white? That statement alone just shows how ethnocentric you are. Asian women like white men, but they also sure as hell love their Asian men. How many Asians are actually married to a white man? White is once again not the preferred race. Good Lord are white people really that full of themselves? People in other countries are more so attracted to the images they see on T.V. Which when they grow up they realize that it's just fantasy.

TIL Idris Elba, The Rock, Chadwick Boseman, Taye Diggs, and Denzel Washington are white! Neat!

"every heartthrob is white"

So I cherry picked a few non white Hollywood heartthrobs. These were literally the ones I thought off right off the bat, and it STILL disproves the "every heartthrob is white" nonsense.

Not every heartthrob is white. Simple as that.

I'd like to see your source on that. Which may be difficult, considering appearances are subjective. But you go ahead believing what you want, if it makes you feel better.

Oh my word.

Hivemind.

This I disagree with. That’s a representation issue. There will be a lot more ethnic celebrity starting with this generation.

The entire stereotype pantheon along with the controlled representations on media are all a reaction against women who were not being good racists.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Braincels/comments/7wldi9/in_case_you_didnt_know_that_chad_is_artificial

Notice now the side that is opposed to racism are all women, and all the men are slandering the hell out of any women who dares choose an ethnic man.

Thank you. This is such a crucial point.

no, ofc some femoids want short, yellow, unattractive virgins. That's what mom read me when I was 5 years old

Wow, you finally figured it out!

I think most women would rather be with prince harry, but they love the men they are with

There's a difference between fantasy and reality

You don't think men do that to women their in relationships with

You genuinely think that men don't fantasize about women other than their spouses? Boy do I have a surprise for you

And unattractive men do leave women when they are able to as well. There's a second why "second wife" is a thing.

Moral of the story? All humans beings are capable of shitty things, given half a chance.

Everyone fantasizes occasionally, bud. It's fun, especially if your partner is in on it.

You know, for a moment I'd assumed that your understanding of human sexuality was slightly better than 12th century England, but I guess that I was wrong

Thank you, I'll be here all week

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And the roastie speaketh!

Who made you a mod?

The creator of this sub.

Why are you here?

Because I'm a mod here.

Why would a female want to mod an incel sub?

(crickets)

Ofcourse

They are an incognizant hate group. They spread their lies under normie eyes, their news articles about women empowerment, degrading men, blog posts justifying hypergamy and degeneracy, and they do this under the veil of 'love, kindness, justice, morality'. This twisted reasoning can never be pointed out to women and their betabux orbiters because they are unable to comprehend any complicated logical phenomena. Their stupidity is their greatest strength because in their eyes, all their shitty behavior is not only justified but also morally right and necessary.

What are you even talking about? Are you just stringing together buzzwords in the hopes that somebody will assume that means it’s true?

lol no. My point is their actions are that of a hate group but they are blissfully unaware of it and they think they're spreading love and making the world a better place by their behavior.

What actions specifically?

who the fuck thinks this sub is spreading love and making the world a better place?

actions like giving fake advice, perpetuating the equality meme when they already have more rights - get away easy in court, divorce setttlements favor women, higher salaries - at the same time not willing to do blue collar jobs, have lower mean IQ and sharper IQ distribution than men (chess still doesn't have unisex world championships) average brain size differences based on gender. There are a lot of other lies they spread about dating, hypergamy etc too. But if you lurked enough you'd know.

who the fuck thinks this sub is spreading love and making the world a better place?

Again, a joke. My bad.

actions like giving fake advice,

Which men do too

perpetuating the equality meme when they already have more rights - get away easy in court, divorce setttlements favor women, higher salaries

Yea, let’s cherry-pick the things that benefit them while ignoring anything that doesn’t fit your narrative.

• at the same time not willing to do blue collar jobs,

I personally know plenty of women who have, and love blue collar jobs

sharper IQ distribution than men

Some would say this isn’t as much of a negative as you’re proposing.

You act as though women are the only people who lie or deceive.

Maybe, just maybe women would want to get to know you better if you didn’t make generalizing statements about half the population calling them inferior and a hate group.

You act as though women are the only people who lie or deceive.

Certainly men lie and deceive, but it should be emphasized that women also can. They are just like men, not superior to them. This is to oppose the widespread bias that women are morally superior to men ("women are wonderful" effect).

Sure, but the fact that they can lie does not mean we get to label the whole group as liars.

you kinda fucked this post with your cope

there is probably some cope in there. But it is mostly true.

Racism is a cope. If you are unattractive for whatever reason there's no reason to sell out others. I suspect it's just sour grapes but you should be aware that the more you promote the mind fuckery the more you bottle neck society.

The vast majority of ethnic men do fine and there is hardly a shortage of white men who are struggling.

In fact the guys pushing your ideology are rich white cucks who are more miserable than ever. They are trying to drag everyone else including younger white men down with them.

What do you mean? Most of what I do here is try to help ethnicels gain a grip of what's happening.

They're being told that they should see any indication that there is any subset of racists at all as indication that everyone is equally racist and they are all the same.

Naw, it's easy to think that because whites are the majority in the states so even if all else was equal it would seem like everyone is with white people.

Beyond, you see all the hell women go through to date ethnic men here. You think it's any different in real life?

The ones who are trying to convince you that women are racist are the ones trying to attack them and shame them to keep all the ones who haven't thought about it as hesitant as ever.

Every single ethnic person I know has dating white women, and unfortunately they all get flack for it often times by their own families.

u/azavii ban this cuck.

Can't ban the truth. Can't even refute it.

You wanna push racism that bad you can't stand even understanding the context? The problem isnt racism. The problem has always been not enough racism according to the group trying to stir up conflict for their own ends

Fuck off nu male cuck.

What the fuck is a numale anymore? I know where you got the term cuck and why that group feels so cucked. But numale? Is that a dude who listens to numetal?

Not being attracted to or not wanting to be in a relationship with you is not an example of a hate group :/

Idk man, have thousands of women rejected you? Used degratory terms on you?(ignoring you is not rejection btw)

Damn, you better go tell black women that white men aren't actually racists for thinking they're uglier than white women.

Umm what? A black woman can be prettier than a white woman and vice versa, where did you get this information?

I will literally give my all to ---> any woman <--- who could actually care about an uggo virgin like me. How is that discriminating exactly?

It’s discriminating because you judge a person negatively based on an action or trait they have just like how you say women discriminate men for their virginity or looks

First off, women isolate and criticise autists in real life and drive them to suicide, while incels joke about how they don't have social skills and liken themselves to autists.

All women? Then honestly you are discriminating against them by generalizing them to a single standard(all women make fun of artists)

I’m sure there are many assholes in general that make fun of autists even incels themselves, take note though, that i say that there is only one instance of this so this doesn’t apply to all incels in general

Here is an example: https://www.reddit.com/r/Braincels/comments/88b50f/is_board_gaming_autistic/

Well, when I was a kid my mother taught me not to judge women based on their looks and to judge on their personalities. Looks are arbitrary and meaningless. Your personality is who you are.

If a man (Chad) prefers a woman to look a certain way for him to date? No different than what women do.

Difference is that non-chads don't even have the option to be picky.

I do admit that even if men have preferences in dating, men are usually the initiators in dating so usually society is seen as them being less picky, it is definitely a thing that has to be changed

Likening women to animals is our job.

Does this mean incels are a hate group?

Yes of course it is

Like I mean have you talked to them and they refused to talk to you? Asked them out and they refused it? Women not approaching you doesn’t count as “hate”

Hmmmm does ugly nigger count as degratory?

Did all women call you an ugly nigger? Bonus points if random women shout it out of nowhere or is it only some of them?

Seems like you have a hard life man

I personally haven’t came through any of this so I still cannot say that women are a hate group but I understand why you do want to call them that

I can only hope the best for you

Not being attracted to or not wanting to be in a relationship with you is not an example of a hate group :/

Incels are bullied and rejected their entire lives over something they can't control.

There is nothing incompatible about being with an incel instead of a goodlooking guy.

You guys also discriminate against women who wear “fake up”, refer them as “femoids” and women who have many partners

Nope :)

There’s even one point in this sub where a couple of incels discriminate autisitic people

A lot of incels have autism, why would we hate autistic people?

And also people have preferences in dating, men included, does this mean men are a hate group? Fuck it, the whole animal kingdom is a hate group

Appeal to nature fallacy. You will never hear an inceltear member make this argument against a feminist, so A+ for hypocrisy.

"Animals rape other animals all the time. Are you trying to say the entire animal kingdom is a rape culture? Checkmate feminists."

Naturally speaking, women are supposed to have their first child before they are 18 years old. Why else did women evolve to be fertile at that age?

Idk man, have thousands of women rejected you? Used degratory terms on you?(ignoring you is not rejection btw)generalised all men to a single negative standard?(like all men are scum, all men are stupid, all men only care about sex)

Do you really want me to answer this?

I have been bullied and rejected my entire life over something I can't control. I've had female teachers join in on isolating me. I've been laughed at, humiliated, and insulted countless times by women and normies alike.

I do think that you do have some good points actually, just more questions I would want to ask if you are ok with it though.

Nope :)

Actually there are lots of threads that tend to do this and are highly upvoted as well,why did you say no though?

Do you really want me to answer this?

Does this apply to all women you have ever met in your life? Also about the ignoring part, by ignoring I mean that if women not approaching you doesn’t count but if you are talking like if you talk to them directly and they ignore you then yes it does count.

I do think that you do have some good points actually, just more questions I would want to ask if you are ok with it though.

Sure.

Actually there are lots of threads that tend to do this and are highly upvoted as well,why did you say no though?

Do you actually think that incels would refuse to have sex with women who wear makeup?

Does this apply to all women you have ever met in your life?

I'm a virgin, so yes.

Also about the ignoring part, by ignoring I mean that if women not approaching you doesn’t count but if you are talking like if you talk to them directly and they ignore you then yes it does count.

Do you think it's morally acceptable for an incel to ignore a woman being raped?

Sorry if you take offence to my post, I’m on here to try to understand incels but incels are kinda of a train wreck because their points contradict each other or they often have trouble explaining about what they stand for, you do seem to have better structured arguments though

Ok.

Do you actually think that incels would refuse to have sex with women who wear makeup?

I think incels would have sex with women who wear makeup but take note that sex isn’t the only factor in defining whether someone discriminates a group of people or not. The thing is that they use degratory terms to describe women with makeup or call them “femoids” and such

I'm a virgin, so yes.

I’m a virgin too but women have not done this to me aside from indirect internet speeches, though if all women you met in your life even your Family including your Mother or any other girl siblings you have actually called you an ugly nigger then well I have nothing to say and I can only hope the best for you

Do you think it's morally acceptable for an incel to ignore a woman being raped?

No it’s not, in fact all rape should be reported but I don’t see the connection between women approaching me out of nowhere and calling for help because someone was raped, care to explain?

I think incels would have sex with women who wear makeup but take note that sex isn’t the only factor in defining whether someone discriminates a group of people or not. The thing is that they use degratory terms to describe women with makeup or call them “femoids” and such

Which is a result of a lifetime of being bullied and rejected over something you can't control.

I’m a virgin too but women have not done this to me aside from indirect internet speeches, though if all women you met in your life even your Family including your Mother or any other girl siblings you have actually called you ugly,refused to talk to you when you want to talk to them or said that all men are scum...then well I have nothing to say and I can only hope the best for you

No woman has ever wanted to have sex with me. That's literally the definition of incel.

No it’s not, in fact all rape should be reported but I don’t see the connection between women approaching me for a chat and calling for help because someone was raped, care to explain?

Do you think it's morally acceptable for a woman to reject an incel because of his looks?

Which is a result of a lifetime of being bullied and rejected over something you can't control.

Ok understandable at least you don’t try to justify your actions as good

No woman has ever wanted to have sex with me. That's literally the definition of incel.

Is there any difference between the terminology incel and virgin then?

Do you think it's morally acceptable for a woman to reject an incel because of his looks?

Yes but a rejecting a person because they don’t want to be in a relationship with them because of looks or refusing to call for help when someone is raped is two very different things

Men would also reject women based on their looks too though it’s not as prominent due to the fact that men are often the initiators when it comes to dating

Ok understandable at least you don’t try to justify your actions as good

My actions are good.

Is there any difference between the terminology incel and virgin then?

Incel stands for "Involuntarily celibate". Virgins can be virgins voluntarily.

Yes but a rejecting a person because they don’t want to be in a relationship with them because of looks or refusing to call for help when someone is raped is two very different things

Since we have established that it's okay to let people suffer because you don't like the way they look, why is it morally wrong to refuse to help a female rape victim just because she looks like a woman?

Men would also reject women based on their looks too though it’s not as prominent due to the fact that men are often the initiators when it comes to dating

Chads perhaps. Incels don't get to choose.

Also incels are also guilty of this, just because you say you would fuck any women even if she looks ugly doesn’t mean you are gonna and I can provide with a few examples from this sub itself

Ok

Since we have established that it's okay to let people suffer because you don't like the way they look, why is it morally wrong to refuse to help a female rape victim just because she looks like a woman?

Because someone can be happy even if someone rejects them because of their relationships, someone can want a relationship and still be happy because relationships are not the key to happiness

Rape on the other hand is something a lot more traumatic and suffering then being rejected, those two cannot be compared

I don’t think what you did is good but I don’t think it’s downright evil either

Okay

Because someone can be happy even if someone rejects them because of their relationships, someone can want a relationship and still be happy because relationships are not the key to happiness

Rape on the other hand is something a lot more traumatic and suffering then being rejected, those two cannot be compared

Some women have rape fetishes, so your argument is kind of shit.

Let's assume that some guy does enjoy being rejected by women(?). Incels don't. We are still suffering, and I would argue that women should be morally compelled to help us with our suffering, as they would want us to do the same if they were suffering.

A rape fetish is an act of consent, it’s a fetish and does not reflect whether a person actually likes rape

Not having sex/relationship does not count as suffering, it’s merely an experience that you are missing out on, there are plenty of other things that can make you happy

A rape fetish is an act of consent, it’s a fetish and does not reflect whether a person actually likes rape or not

I don't think that's true.

Not having sex/relationship does not count as suffering, it’s merely an experience that you are missing out on, there are plenty of other things that can make you happy

Maslows hierarchy of needs puts sex before freedom. Being bullied and rejected your entire life over something you can't control absolutely does hurt.

Can you explain to me how being alone your entire life is good for your psyche?

What is your point? If we are to apply this analogy consistently, being rejected without consenting to being rejected still hurts.

Tons of people have been rejected before and it doesn’t create any long term harm, rape on the other hand has actual psychological effects that harm the victim.

Maslows hierarchy of needs puts sex before freedom. Being bullied and rejected your entire life over something you can't control absolutely does hurt.

Sorry I checked maslows hierarchy of needs and sex isn’t there, the closest is love/belonging but that isn’t sex, love isn’t sex

Tons of people have been rejected before and it doesn’t create any long term harm, rape on the other hand has actual psychological effects that harm the victim.

The aim of rape is because a men wants to experience pleasure in place of someone’s suffering

The aim of rejecting someone is because relationships take time and dedication and someone cannot simply accept someone anyhow, a relationship takes time resources and trust

Someone chooses not to spend resources(rejecting a relationship)over someone choosing to withhold their horniness(refusing rape), one of them is more immoral than the other

You are acting like other people are responsible for your happiness, which is not true

Okay I think this has gone way too offtopic. We have gone from comparing the should to comparing the is. I am not going to argue with you and say that rape is just like being alone your entire life.

My problem lies with the way people should respond to it. Being alone your entire life is suffering. Being raped is suffering. Why should incels be morally compelled to help female rape victims, but women should not be morally compelled to help incels with their suffering?

Sorry I checked maslows hierarchy of needs and sex isn’t there, the closest is love/belonging but that isn’t sex, love isn’t sex

This one mentions sex.

Also, is "intimate relationships" too vague for you?

Also my point is that sex isn’t the only thing that can bring happiness, maslows hierarchy of needs doesn’t even place sex in their hierarchy

Aren't you a virgin? Why are you implying that sex is just this casual thing when you have never experienced it?

I need you to answer this question honestly. Do you think being alone your entire life is suffering?

My problem lies with the way people should respond to it. Being alone your entire life is suffering. Being raped is suffering. Why should incels be morally compelled to help female rape victims, but women should not be morally compelled to help incels with their suffering?

I think it all relies on a personal moral compass I guess, I believe that even if people suffered in their life they should still be morally compelled to help. Moreover, it’s a lot harder to tell who is alone their entire life since some people who seem alone just like to be alone at that moment, people don’t feel compelled to talk to you because they do not want to be rude or be judged, it’s up to you to initiate social contact

However since you have said that you can’t argue that one is more immoral than the other then honestly not much I can do to change your mind but I really question your moral compass

Also you can have a fulfilling human relations without a Girlfriend with the use of friends and such?

This one mentions sex.

Also, is "intimate relationships" too vague for you?

I’m sure that sex is placed as a need in that because it is needed so that the human race will not die out but it’s not a personal need anyway, Google a little and ask why is sex a Maslow hierarchy need and you can find people explaining this: https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/36qfg8/eli5_why_is_sex_considered_to_be_a_need_you_dont/

Aren't you a virgin? Why are you implying that sex is just this casual thing when you have never experienced it?

I’m not implying is this casual thing but it isn’t the only thing that’s for sure

I need you to answer this question honestly. Do you think being alone your entire life is suffering?

Yes, but there are many other ways to fill that gap, you don’t need a girlfriend

I think it all relies on a personal moral compass I guess, I believe that even if people suffered in their life they should still be morally compelled to help. To me, experiencing suffering is not an excuse to mess up your moral compass, suffering is still suffering in my opinion and I will try my best to help anyone who suffers

Why not incels?

Moreover, it’s a lot harder to tell who is alone their entire life since some people who seem alone just like to be alone at that moment, people don’t feel compelled to talk to you because they do not want to be rude or be judged, it’s up to you to initiate social contact

Incels often try to express themselves but they are shunned and called "entitled".

However since you have said that you can’t argue that one is more immoral than the other then honestly not much I can do to change your mind but I really question your moral compass

Trying to measure the suffering in being isolated your entire life and being raped is a very difficult task. We can deduct that both are forms of suffering, and that both should be avoided.

Personally I would argue that being a male virgin your entire life is worse than being raped as a woman, since women have more sympathy from society and rapists are put in jail, while people who bully and isolate incels don't get any punishment and incels are shunned from society.

Also you can have a fulfilling human relations without a Girlfriend with the use of friends and such?

Intimacy from friends?

I’m sure that sex is placed as a need in that because it is needed so that the human race will not die out but it’s not a personal need anyway, Google a little and ask why is sex a Maslow hierarchy need and you can find people explaining this:

What exactly do you disagree with? The idea that intimate relationships with the opposite gender are important in life? Why do you think people have relationships to begin with?

I’m not implying is this casual thing but it isn’t the only thing to happiness that’s for sure

Okay. When did I say that it's the only thing that can bring happiness? It's certainly something that can lead to depression.

Yes, but there are many other ways to fill that gap, you don’t need a Girlfriend, do you have friends that you can talk to? A family that you can rely on?

Sexual intimacy with the opposite gender is necessary to a happy life.

Why not incels?

I said I would do my best but I can’t help everyone , especially since incels are probably the hardest people to help mainly because it’s hard to give what they want.

The best way to help them is to break them out of their inceldom but that requires advice which I’m not fit to give because I haven’t found out enough about inceldom, right now I’m trying to ask questions about incels before helping them

Incels often try to express themselves but they are shunned and called "entitled".

I mean like not expressing yourself on this subreddit, like personally talking to people in real life

Trying to measure the suffering in being isolated your entire life and being raped is a very difficult task. We can deduct that both are forms of suffering, and that both should be avoided.

Personally I would argue that being a male virgin your entire life is worse than being raped as a woman, since women have more sympathy from society and rapists are put in jail, while people who bully and isolate incels don't get any punishment and incels are shunned from society.

This is an argument I can take to be honest, I might not agree with you but at least I can understand why you feel this way

What exactly do you disagree with? The idea that intimate relationships with the opposite gender are important in life? Why do you think people have relationships to begin with?

I don’t agree that sex is a personal need that is to be placed at the same level as food and water

Okay. When did I say that it's the only thing that can bring happiness? It's certainly something that can lead to depression.

Alright then at least you acknowledged that

You do realise that the women with rape fetishes like to play out rape scenarios consensually? And it doesn't mean that they wish they'd actually get raped by a complete stranger and then suffer the trauma?

When did I say otherwise?

I'm not entitled to sex, women aren't entitled to my help while they're being raped.

The problem is that sex and rape are two very different things

For one there are plenty of people who don’t have sex that are happy even those who want relationships themselves

Rape in the other hand is traumatic for everyone in general even those who want relationships

But youre still not entitled to my help if you're being raped. It is perfectly legal for me to see you getting raped and walk away, it's also perfectly legal for you to see me sexually deprived and justify it. Kids in Africa aren't entitled to water. Homeless people aren't entitled to a job. No one is entitled to anything.

thats true though, even if the morality itself is questionable, I would still rather help someone who is being raped though

Excluding someone from society because of their physical appearance is morally questionable as well

You mean bullying? Everyone pretty much agrees it’s morally bad except for shallow assholes

Not bullying, just exclusion.

Not so sure about that though,Stephen Hawkins didn’t get excluded didn’t he?

Just be a world renowned scientist physicist with ALS theory is legit

I mean it’s definitely there though, that is just one example

Whatever, I’m not entitled to love or companionship and you’re not entitled to help when getting raped. Telling us we’re not entitled to sex since no one is entitled to anything

Not being attracted to or not wanting to be in a relationship with you is not an example of a hate group :/

I agree with that statement. However, it goes beyond that. Women often go out of their way to insult, mock, and assign negative stereotypes to unattractive men. It's one thing to not be attracted to someone, it's another thing to actively be mean to them and say they are inferior people because of their appearance.

https://twitter.com/heightismxposed?lang=en

In some cases, they even suggest that short or otherwise ugly people should be excluded from dating, relationships, or reproducing. They aren't just saying "I'm personally not attracted to you," they're saying "No one should be attracted to you," which is a pretty big difference. Imagine if someone said that no one should date black people or that Asian people shouldn't reproduce. That would be considered quite hateful.

You guys also discriminate against women who wear “fake up”, refer them as “femoids” and women who have many partners

Incels also say some hateful things, but incels are a small obscure community with no presence in mainstream culture. Incel beliefs are not the ones being shared thousands of times all over social media and promoted through movies/TV/other entertainment.

I agree with that statement. However, it goes beyond that. Women often go out of their way to insult, mock, and assign negative stereotypes to unattractive men. It's one thing to not be attracted to someone, it's another thing to actively be mean to them and say they are inferior people because of their appearance.

https://twitter.com/heightismxposed?lang=en

In some cases, they even suggest that short or otherwise ugly people should be excluded from dating, relationships, or reproducing. They aren't just saying "I'm personally not attracted to you," they're saying "No one should be attracted to you," which is a pretty big difference. Imagine if someone said that no one should date black people or that Asian people shouldn't reproduce. That would be considered quite hateful.

I dont think you should generalize a whole group of women based on one twitter account, plus if you look at the comments, many people just tell them to shut the hell up. There are shallow people in this world and those women who say short guys suck make up a small minority, heck the account is only 193 tweets which is not even 1% of twitter

Incels also say some hateful things, but incels are a small obscure community with no presence in mainstream culture. Incel beliefs are not the ones being shared thousands of times all over social media and promoted through movies/TV/other entertainment.

Thats true and its probably for the best to be honest, though my point still stands where they actually discriminate people

also im kinda glad that you are one of the more calmer incels here really

I dont think you should generalize a whole group of women based on one twitter account, plus if you look at the comments, many people just tell them to shut the hell up. There are shallow people in this world and those women who say short guys suck make up a small minority, heck the account is only 193 tweets which is not even 1% of twitter

I am not saying one Twitter account is, by itself, proof the behavior of the whole world. It's just a quick example that I could find from my memory. But if you just look at what's posted on Facebook, Twitter, etc., it's pretty common to see jokes and memes (with tens of thousands of likes/shares) making fun of or saying negative things about short or ugly men.

And of course I don't mean that literally 100% of women act like this. I don't agree with the OP's claim that literally all women make up a hate group, but I feel that was just a hyperbole to catch attention and start a discussion. However, I think a significant portion of them do, and many more may not actively participate but silently go along with it. Kind of like how the vast majority of people are not overt racists who shout racial slurs and go around trying to harm racial minorities, but racism still exists and is considered a major problem in society.

Again this is not just about personal preferences, like "I don't like the taste of pineapple" or something. We are talking about people who say things like "short men are objectively inferior and should be considered ugly by everyone, not just me."

I saw another comment here that pointed out how individual preferences aren't necessarily racist, but they can be formed based on systematically enforced racist stereotypes. For example there is the issue of Asian/Indian males being represented quite negatively and stereotypically in American media. That doesn't mean literally every woman hates Asians or that no Asian men can get laid, but it also doesn't mean that the underlying systematic issue should be ignored.

Thats true and its probably for the best to be honest, though my point still stands where they actually discriminate people

Two wrongs don't make a right. Incels making discriminatory statements on some obscure corner of the internet has negligible effect on the real world. Most people don't even know what an incel is.

also im kinda glad that you are one of the more calmer incels here really

I'm not an incel, just a normie who agrees with some things incels say and disagrees with other things.

A lot of blue pilled lurkers would be disturbed and surprised at how many non incels agree with some or a lot of the content here about women. A lot of them are blind to what is painfully obvious.

Foids only get hard when incels are being beaten up for her entertainment

im sorry what the fuck

“don’t get me started on how much they even hate themselves” do you know what a hate group is

aYYYY thanks my guy but i think that’s the definition of “incels”

have you heard of a lil thing called sexism, m’lady?

women, as a whole, are not oppressive. Doesn’t matter if you’ve met a couple who insulted your appearance, skin colour etc. bc this does not mean they’re oppressive as a group, but rather that these few are either straight up mean or racist etc. Women are oppressed, due to their long-running supposed inferiority throughout history. Men are oppressive however, due to how the world is shaped in their favour. Misandry (which i think is what you’re mistaking for oppression) does not actually exist to the effect that it is described—a conditioned antipathy toward an oppressing, occupying force in a society is not bigotry. Men own almost all the businesses, run almost all the government, and write almost all the death and rape threats aimed at feminists and women in general, just because of menial things like their lack of attraction towards them. To state outright that you distrust men is not prejudice, but practical situational awareness.

but go off i guess

oh the supercuck has arrived lmao I bet you will also say peolpe of color cant be racist right ?

cute. is it possible to be a cuck if u a girl im real confused

better ? :-D

yO im screaming that’s hilarious

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my eyes fucking burn ew

not the first time someone told me that lol

let me play the worlds smallest violin for you ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

I would rather see some titties ;D

choke.

rude

it’s a justifiable reaction in my opinion. like how hatred of women is justifiable in yours!

"senseless hatred" lol we have every right to hate people who make our lives unbearable no matter what you or other people think

hating an entire part of the population bc of a select few experiences w members of that population is prejudiced and unfair and gross and shows how ugly you really are on the inside. So I repeat - choke.

select few experiences ? everyday Im getting shit from people because of my looks, from family members to random strangers my entire life. you would hate the people who hurt you too, wouldnt you ? its easy to talk without having the emotions in you and memories of all the things people have done to you for no other reason than your looks.

r/inceltears

just what I have expected typical for your kind

Source?

In more Liberal areas you see a lot of White Women in Inter-racial relationships. This has a lot do due with the men in the area not accepting inter-racial couples. Short men? What women post on dating sites and IRL are 2 different things, The short Italian, Spanish, and Portuguese men seem to do real well with women. Ugly and virgins are a choice, men also don't date ugly girls and some men like me have had bad experiences with virgins.

No, a good number of white women prefer black or brown men over a "White Chad". An inter-racial couple in Chicago is no big deal but travel 50 miles away to Indiana and you can get harassed or even threatened. Down south or rural areas it's even worse. Ugly girls get rejected by all types of men, a 3/10 will get rejected by what you call normies.

Replace "men" with "chads" and I would say this is pretty accurate

kek. It is hilarious how accurate it is throughout.

The short Italian, Spanish, and Portuguese chads seem to do real well with women.

jfl

"Chads also don't date ugly girls and some chads like me have had bad experiences with virgins."

"This has a lot do due with the chads in the area not accepting inter-racial couples."

kek. thanks for pointing this out

Only in the same way that all of humanity is a hate group

You know what it's called when an "unattractive" guy flirts with a woman? Sexual harassment.

If you are a male and don't look like you belong in a lead role on television, women hate you. Simple as that. They just don't see you as fully human, you are merely something to use....a tool for gaining social status or betabux at most. Unattractive males are cannon fodder to women.

Unattractive males are cannon fodder to women

Look at Vietnam if you want proof of this.

They even go as far as to accuse us of rape. They search us out all the time to mock us and post us on other subs. I can't post on here without being berrated. You don't think I get enough of that from women in real life?

You know what it's called when an "unattractive" guy flirts with a woman? Sexual harassment.

If you are a male and don't look like you belong in a lead role on television, women hate you. Simple as that. They just don't see you as fully human, you are merely something to use....a tool for gaining social status or betabux at most. Unattractive males are cannon fodder to women.

they fit all the definitions, and it's have the entire world population!

"For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. "

-JFK

"They all specifically discriminate against"

Source? Proof?

So, no? You can't come up with a source or proof that ALL women specifically discriminate?

Shocking.

Well then it's probably not "all women" then, huh?

Saying something is true just because it seems obvious... That's how myths and fake news spread.

Hm?

Nah, they're just animals, they are entirely driven by sensualism, they are pure emotion and never rely on logic/reasoning.

So like the entirety of humanity?

In order to be a hate group, women would have to be a group. There'd have to be an organization with statements, activities, leaders, etc.

There are groups for women just as there are groups for men, but there aren't any organizations that include most or all women or men. In fact, their membership is often very limited.

This is weasel-wording bullshit. You have terrible reasoning skills.

So why are people so convinced that incels are a hate group?

Incels are closer to an organized group than "women."

"Women" encompass half the population. Most don't know each other or talk to each other. They're not a member of an organization. They don't share values or an ideology or a way of life or anything that can link them except biology.

I'm not sure why you think this is comparable to Incels. Bad analogy.

This is a parody of IncelTear's "are incels a hate group" post

Right, but you kind of believe your own parody, don't you?

A parody is fine by me, except this is a bad one. You should've picked an actual organization of women, not just "women."

Except that they all don't.

lol no. My point is their actions are that of a hate group but they are blissfully unaware of it and they think they're spreading love and making the world a better place by their behavior.

Likewise.

What the fuck is a numale anymore? I know where you got the term cuck and why that group feels so cucked. But numale? Is that a dude who listens to numetal?

Thank you, I'll be here all week

Source?

I don’t think what you did is good but I don’t think it’s downright evil either

Okay

Because someone can be happy even if someone rejects them because of their relationships, someone can want a relationship and still be happy because relationships are not the key to happiness

Rape on the other hand is something a lot more traumatic and suffering then being rejected, those two cannot be compared

Some women have rape fetishes, so your argument is kind of shit.

Let's assume that some guy does enjoy being rejected by women(?). Incels don't. We are still suffering, and I would argue that women should be morally compelled to help us with our suffering, as they would want us to do the same if they were suffering.

my eyes fucking burn ew

So why are people so convinced that incels are a hate group?

Incels are closer to an organized group than "women."

"Women" encompass half the population. Most don't know each other or talk to each other. They're not a member of an organization. They don't share values or an ideology or a way of life or anything that can link them except biology.

I'm not sure why you think this is comparable to Incels. Bad analogy.

This is a parody of IncelTear's "are incels a hate group" post

Right, but you kind of believe your own parody, don't you?

A parody is fine by me, except this is a bad one. You should've picked an actual organization of women, not just "women."