Good-looking people are more likely to believe that life is fair. New study suggest that physical attractiveness powerfully affects our subjective experience as a human and that just-world beliefs are driven, at least in part, by personal experience with inequality.

114  2018-04-01 by BauBauser

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lmao look at all these normies spreading the blackpill

https://i.imgur.com/xbdVjNd.png

The black pill is a void that pulls us all in....

People tend to agree with the blackpill as long as you don't call it the black pill.

Those aren't normies...

1200 upvotes

Nah, must be all incels.

So which is it? Do we have an incel epidemic where there are more than 1200 incels on the web or don't we?

Did I ever say we have an incel epidemic? Did I ever say most men don't get laid, even some of the ugly ones?

Come back to me when you have dealt with your horrible case of groupthink.

It's a common argument among incels E. G. Sub 8, women are hypergamous etc.

Again the guy who responses to the comment was pretty obviously an incel

I don't give a flying fuck about what is a common argument among incels. You're talking to me, not "generic incel #582". I even specifically go out of my way to use phrasing that doesn't identify myself as incel. But since I happen to agree on one statement with the majority of incels that must mean I am one, and that I hold all their views, right?

As I said: Fix your groupthink.

Also, we are talking about how the comment was received. It doesn't matter fuck all whether or not it was originally written by an incel.

Also, the third comment literally says he used to be good-looking before he got disfigured. He literally can provide personal experience from both sides of the coin with all other variables (almost) equal. And again, he got almost 1000 upvotes. So yeah, not sure how this helps your argument at all, lol.

Did I ever say we have an incel epidemic?

Come back to me when you have dealt with your horrible case of groupthink.

link? can't find the normie reddit post where they discuss this anymore

Nothing wrong with resentment for those gifted better genetics than you. They are mostly spoiled pricks with zero sense of humility. Fuck them.

Ugly women are treated worse than beautiful women, that’s a black pill the sub needs to swallow.

but not nearly as bad as ugly males, who are effectively shut off from having a romantic/sexual experience.

Fuck you.

I’m also shut off from it. No guy who ends up with me will be happy with me.

You're a delusional and depressed teen. Get some help and fuck off. You look totally average AND you're a female. You can easily get your looksmatch who can be happy with you, you're just pissed the popular chad at highschool isn't on his knees for you. Entitled bitch.

The least I want is an average guy, and I’m sure you want an average girl too.

so I scrolled through your comments and stumbled upon this :

Someone asked you if you would date your looksmatch, and you answered:

Sigh. I would. But I would not be happy. No one will be happy settling. The majority of men here also want a girl way out of their league. They just deny it.

THIS is the FUNDAMENTAL reason why women CANNOT be incel.

I semi fall in love with literally any woman that smiles to me, no matter her looks. I would LOVE to have a monogamous and fullfilling relationship with my looksmatch, if she loved me back.

However, women are not like that. They only "settle" for their looksmatch, they're NEVER happy unless its chad.

You , like all femoid mammals, are the selective gender, you are not capable of love, you only select for the best male, and "settle" for the best one you can get, and you'll never be happy unless you get chad, by your very own admission.

Would you say I’m your looksmatch?

I think you know the answer to that, and you're trying to bait me so I can stroke your ego.

But I will not do that, instead i will insult you.

You're a subhuman whore who will never be happy with her looksmatch and deserves all the frustration you will get because you are a disgusting being devoid of any humanity.

Am I your looksmatch? I would date you if you admitted I was your looksmatch. No guy ever admitted that to me before.

Bull fucking shit, loads of guys on here have commented how you mog them. And you rated yourself 3,5, do you REALLY believe men who are 3,5 or below do not exist?

And why would I fucking want to date you, you just admitted that you would never love your looksmatch and only "settle" for him, in hopes of one day getting a chance at chad.

Get out of here you pathetic bitch with your low effort ego stroking baits.

Brutality!

You dont deserve that.

That’s right. I don’t.

Deal with it.

You too.

Go back to dating your abusive chad

He was nowhere close to a Chad.

Yet he dated you

be happy you're white, that makes you better than 90% of the people on this planet

Uhhhhhh okay

I don't even think she's average I think she's pretty. But to some guys out there you would be their ten. You just want the best of the best and somebody rejected you.

Wtf. She's definitely below average and not pretty at all. 3,5 seems right tbh. Stop inflating the ego of ugly women.

I don't see it,I've seen some uglies and she's not one of them. Maybe your just being a dick because it's the cool thing to do on this page.

I'm just being honest. All the criteria and standards man have to fulfil to be perceived as attractive (good jawline, hairline, compact midface, facial harmony, height) are not a factor to rate women's attractiveness. They just have to be not deformed and not a landwhale and people like you will say: "OMG you are literally 10/10" and their ego will ascend. Goodbye looksmatch. But she doesn't even meet these simple criteria. She looks overweight and her facial harmony is shit. People like you are the reason why women think they all deserve a manifestation of Chad.

I never said she was a dimepiece lol I said she can be somebody's 10 that loves her. I think a ton of girls are pretty though ,do they care no I get treated ugly. She's going to continue to come on here saying she's ugly even though me and other guys tell her otherwise.

Just let me say I’m ugly.

So am I ugly or not? Are you just lying to me to help my low self esteem?

No you know you're not ugly so just stop,I said you wasn't a dime piece ,but if you found some guy later you would be his 10. Atleast that's how I'd treat a girl if I ever found one.

What the fuck is facial harmony. Look, I respect the honesty but can you expand on that so I know exactly what the fuck is wrong with me?

What the fuck is facial harmony?

Doesn't really matter. Because if you loose weight 80% of numales and betafags will think: "blonde, good body, no major facial flaws - that's a 7/10 if I ever saw one.

Millionaires are treated worse than billionaires, that's the black pill the sub eneds to swallow

Duh?

But coming from a girl who's dated someone before and got 7 messages after posting her image on reddit, fuck off.

I’m ugly. It’s okay for me to say I’m ugly.

There might be a sub for that, but you ain't no incel.

What’s the sub for that?

But then I would feed a delusion that I am attractive

Cool.

Jesus you are so annoying, you know for a fact you are not ugly. Just be honest that some Chad rejected you so now you feel ugly.

I’ve always felt ugly. Ever since my ex boyfriend (who was nowhere close to a Chad looks-wise, an absolute 2/10) talked shit about me with his friends and left me for a girl on the street, I’ve always felt ugly.

He was really a 2/10 ? Lol if he was you wouldn't be stressing over him.seriously you are not ugly you are not obese ,there's plenty of sexy big girls and guys who love big girls even if you are big. You might be in a bad area or you might need counseling ,but you are not an incel and that's why you are not liked here. I get rejected by every female I go for that is a incel. You would not get rejected by every guy. There will be guys who would die to be with you. Now that's all I got to say.goodnight

I’m stressing over him because he made me feel worthless.

You are making yourself feel worthless.

He looked like a male version of me. All I want to do is tell him I now hate the shit out of him. But that would make me crazy.

Keep that hatred alive. Raise it and nurture it.

I'm 35 and I've had to move on a trillion times even from so called friends. That's what you're going to have to do is when someone treats you like shit just move on,find people who don't. To me you aren't ugly ,if we was the same age I would consider you relationship material. And above average. So please quit this I'm ugly shit you have no idea what it's like to be treated ugly. Maybe by some assholes yeah but you cannot say all guys don't like you. If I'm sitting here saying you are pretty . Plus you are 17 ,you are young as hell. Just wait till your 20-21 you'll be like a different person a different phase in life. Just make sure you get a career and you'll have a good life.

So he was a 6/10. Since women rate 80% of men below everage.

Yep, guys like us don't even exist as potential partners to her.

For fuck's sake, stop respondong to its posts. Writes "Tits or GTFO" if you absolutely must, but better yet to simply ignore it until it notices the attention-craving cannot be satisfied here.

And as always Incels speak the truth. We all know it.

Normies only acknowledge this shit when it's convenient for them.

Minorities and poor people are literally oppressed their entire lives for something they are born with.

But incels are making everything up and can't possible face oppression for their appearance. Inceltear logic at work.

Basically when it's "about someone else"

It's like when you tell a normie that "people are assholes" they are usually going to agree with you, even though technically you just called them an asshole.

As that Dilbert guy put it, human brains are not wired for rationality.

Incel ideology is built upon ignoring rationality.

Good find. Definitely needs to be posted in all manosphere forums, reddits, etc.

Anddddd one again, Inceltears no where to be found. Really makes you think. 🤔

I will copy and paste another comment I wrote on IncelTears on stuff like this:

A lot of posters in places like IT are coping normies and incels in denial. I found out about /r/incels originally from this guy who kept sharing stuff from inceltears off reddit in an another online community. At first I had a similar response as him and I just said stuff like lol yeah they're fucked up. After a few minutes of looking through /r/incels though I thought "holy fuck...this is my life."

A month or 2 later, the guy that was sharing those posts had swallowed the blackpill. He never acknowledged that he had started out as an IT type of person. I don't really think he realized it himself since for most people it's not something that happens all of a sudden. Blackpills can take time. I stopped talking to him a long time ago because of other reasons so I don't know what his thoughts are now. When people swallow the blackpill, most of them don't go back.

At one point, the normies and incels in denial on IT will have to face reality. Do you remember IT the day /r/incels was banned? It was full of posts like "sometimes I feel like I relate to incels, but I don't hate women or blame them for it" and "I am a virgin but not a toxic incel, how do I change and avoid that".

The fact is, IT is filled with normies and incels in denial who are in self-denial. Making fun of incels is their way of feeling better about themselves and putting themselves above us. Some of them will eventually swallow the blackpill. It's hard to deny reality forever.

Normies there with gfs/wives, and that's probably not too many, do the same thing, make fun of others to make themselves feel superior.

The femoids there are a different story. They like to continuously make fun of some of the most miserable people on Earth to satisfy their sadistic pleasures. They don't need to make themselves feel superior to us. Our problems don't even apply to them. They can't relate to us yet they feel the need to continously look at us and go "oh my god! they're so horrible!" when no one is forcing them.

All we can do is cope and keep dropping blackpills.

All we can do is cope and keep dropping blackpills.

The Blackpill is like gravity. All it takes is a little push.

A lot of inceltear people might be left-wing but they behave like literal Tea Party members when it comes to this. They will gladly apply oppression theory to black people and poor people, but it's literally impossible that incels face discrimination for their appearance.

Fuck, they apply oppression theory to ugly/fat women even

Apparently males don't deserve any empathy. We're truly disposable

I'm a communist and a semi-normie cause I've had a gf for 5 years now but I'm also ugly and borderline mentalcel so I completely understand your struggles.

I don't agree with you becoming right-wing and stuff but I share your same feelings of injustice and crippling hate towards your bad luck in life's birth lottery.

In fact, even though I first came here to satisfy some morbid curiosity I've ended up feeling empowered when I saw that my perceptions of people randomly alienating me were not made up in my head but actual reactions to my appearance.

Also, you've made me realize how lucky I am to have a rare non-slut femoid for a girlfriend.

I'm actually an anti-capitalist/anarcho-primitivist so I'm probably closer to you politically than most right-wingers.

What do you think of the fact that most communists are feminists/sex positive?

I don't think feminism is the problem and the truth is that it's pretty shitty to spend your life being a unpaid maid/housekeeper that is moved around like property and without barely any opportunities to do anything with their lives compared to men of equal socioeconomic status.

The problem is being ugly. You can try to put blame on anybody you want but it won't change anything; the fact is that the liberation of women has led to an explosion in the amount of sex had in the world, you just don't get to see it if you're an ugly bastard.

I think that being feminist as a communist is as logical as being against exploitation of poor people or of poor countries: sure, you'd probably be better off using people to satisfy your every desire but you can choose to be a bit less shitty even if it means living a bit worse.

I'm a communist

You're dumb.

I don't know about that, I just came out of my Quantum physics 2 midterm and it looks like I did pretty well. From my point of view you and the rest of reactionaries, centrists and so on are dumb.

Yet you can't understand supply and demand.

Good luck in the job market though.

What makes you think that communists doesn't understand supply and demand? You do realize that the "communists don't understand basic economics" is a joke from the Reagan era, right? In reality marxism is mostly an economic theory and it's implications in other spheres of society.

In fact, communism is not even one single thing and I'm mostly in favour of a communist economy that adapts some characteristics of capitalist markets into a cooperativist society.

this probably applies to racism as well

yea. its a fucking fairy tale for good looking people

ehh somewhat. on average a good looking person will have a better life than an ugly one but they could still have shitty lives.

you said 2 opposite things.

Isn't this evident?

i want to die

I wonder if the reverse is also true, that people on the short end of the stick think the 'haves' have a perfect life free from stress and worry?

No one really has a perfect life. Everyone has their demons and they deal with them. I was in an absolute state of slumber and anxiety last year for a lot of reasons. I had a gf, had wealthy parents, was studying in a good college. None of it mattered and to me my life was horrible

Excellent point. Everyone has problems, and those problems are very real to them, even though to an outsider they may seem trivial or not problems at all.

Not an excellent point at all but a very egotistical and conceited way of thinking. When you've been brought up in an environment where you're coddled in luxury, some stupid irrelevant minor inconvenience such as having your dumbass car stolen or when some solipsist doesn't feel she's got her due external validation is experienced as an atrocious horror.

Meanwhile, a little girl in Yemen lost her leg because of a mine explosion but is still able to smile afterwards.

No, your problems are not the same. I advise you to leave your rich western country once and visit actual poor countries where people experience actual suffering so that you can learn to put your little problems into perspective.

Nobody is saying that the 'haves' have problem free lives but don't dare to say it is any sense comparable.

Why would a person need to leave their country to witness misery? There are people in the US losing their legs and smiling about it. That's pretty conceited to assume that your privileged middle-class lifestyle is shared by all US citizens.

Meanwhile, a little girl in Yemen lost her leg because of a mine explosion but is still able to smile afterwards.

Is she also forced to live all of her life alone, loved and supported by no one, always ridiculed, harassed and exploited for her "flaws"? Because if so, I'd like to know her secret. Otherwise, I'd just dismiss that example because it's easier to live with one leg and something to smile about, than to live with two legs but nothing to smile about.

I'm not talking about people deprived of all love, affection and support. I'm talking about those who in spite of all this still feel the need to cry out about their hard lives for additional ego boosts which is very prevalent among coddled and spoiled first worlders.

They are the ones who need to be able to put their issues into perspective.

The first world person is comparing their lives to other first world people. You're supposed to compare yourself to others of your situation. That's why sports are separated by age and sex.

Sure, the people who complain can take a trip to poor countries and get a wake-up call. But even people who come from poor countries and immigrate to rich countries will later complain about the same things as "coddled and spoiled first worlders." It's all a matter of your surroundings.

Sure, the people who complain can take a trip to poor countries and get a wake-up call. But even people who come from poor countries and immigrate to rich countries will later complain about the same things as "coddled and spoiled first worlders."

Lol no, they won't. Especially not first generation ones.

source: I'm a first gen immigrant

I've met some first gen immigrants who did and some who didn't.

When I was in school, many of my immigrant classmates whined about the classes instead of studying. One even cried when she did badly on a test.

Don't shift the subject , there's a difference in making lighthearted complaints and thinking your problems are just bad as let's say people from ravaged countries because you fail to place them into perspective.

The people in those same places will also complain about having bad grades.

That's not shifting the subject. Crying over a test is not a light-hearted complaint.
I can also tell you about an immigrant who whined about having to replace his windshield as soon as we greeted - a complaint that doesn't even come close to getting the full car stolen.
BTW in most parts of America, a car is actually a necessity.

Nobody thinks their problems are as bad as people from ravaged countries. They're only comparing their problems to their typical life or to the lives in their social circle. As long as they don't silence the bigger complaints, they have every right to their complaints.
By your own logic, that Yemeni girl who lost her leg should not smile. She needs to visit a wealthy country where people experience real satisfaction to put her little joys in perspective.

It would be a good point if the normies practiced what they preach. As it stands, for some reason normies seem to be unable to empathize with incels issues to a really bizarre degree. As a result, it's impossible to talk about perceived and lived loneliness interchangeably - if you do that, the lived loneliness (i.e. the loneliness that incels go through - loneliness that isn't a feeling but a situation) is simply erased. And it's obviously not in any way beneficial to incels to have their main issue erased.

Everyone has their demons and they deal with them

Just lol at this attempt at pretending all problems are equal. An incel is dealing with far worse demons than a normalfag w/ gf who has a hurt boo-boo and meme depression.

Snowflake spottet

A snowflake would be whining even though they have comfy life with a gf and all their needs met. Someone with actual hard problems in their life has a good reason to complain.

https://www.google.de/amp/s/www.urbandictionary.com/define.php%3fterm=Snowflake&amp=true

I used the first definition. Under the assertion that you think your problems are so much more important then somebody elses.

Ah, so the definition that can be applied to everyone, of course.

but now has morphed into a general putdown for anyone that complains about any subject.

Happiness isn’t a tangible asset. You cannot quantify it and you cannot be “more happy”. As an emotion it is subjective. Either you are happy or you are not happy. I have many friends who would be incel by this community’s standards yet they are some of happiest people I know.

This. We all should become Buddhists. The world def would be a better place. Seriously.

Yeah ok, that's going on the incel website

See, I would say you have a very easy, close to perfect, life, when the worst thing you can imagine is just having mental health issues. This is why we say normies like you lack perspective. When you struggle, you struggle with feelings. Incels struggle first and foremost with situations, and you just can't tell the difference.

Ok.. can you give me an example of how incels struggle with situations?

We're in the middle of one right now.

being ostracized everywhere you go just because you look a certain way is one of them. Being mocked for being born different is one of them. Being paid less than attractive people is one of them. Never being taken seriously by normies because you were born different is one of them.

So you think every person is staring at you and out to insult you just because you’re 5’3 and ugly? Maybe 500 years ago but most adults in 21st century western civilization recognize that human beings need to be judged on their individual worth.. I think you have a very warped view of the world and suffer from BDD.

People don’t care about you as much as you think they do. No one is ever going to remember you and remind themselves to bully you. If you behave like a decent human people will reciprocate.

I’m not saying you didn’t get the short hand in life because you did. However, that doesn’t mean your life is over and you should kill yourself. Life isn’t fair but it is what we make of it. There are many short/ugly guys who become successful, marry, have kids and live a good life. In the end it boils down to your attitude

until you live that life you will never understand. I have had people say things to my face about my height and my looks. People usually leave you alone but if you try to fit in at all they start to act mean and remind you that you don't fit in. I'm not saying people go out of their way to harass me but that they treat me like a child who is getting in their way.

I understand and have friends in your situation so I can empathize. It certainly isn’t being a short man much less short and ugly. Society does ridicule you all a lot.

My question is have you been doing anything to improve your life quality or have you just given up? It’s never too late and no one is gone enough to turn their life around

At this point I've given up just because I have literally zero options. Even if I wanted to you cant do anything about what I have. It's over.

ugliness is a disability

Same with white people.

Average US black IQ is 85. Average US white IQ is 100. IQ is 80% heritable in the US.

IQ may be different. But it still doesn't cure ignorance. African nations aren't responsible for most of the wars in the world. It is white people who are. The 2 party system in america basically lets them get away with fucking up their own country for 4 years and fucking the rest of the world in the next four, because the democrats and republicans, in their fight with each other, consider the american people, and the rest of the world as collateral damage.

Exactly and this is what China is the best. They have a single party system, they have the second largest economy in the world, and they’ve maintained warm and friendly relations with more countries than the US.

Dictator Xi, you are the real genius.

China always thinks ahead, that is true. But not one neighbor of china has positive things to say about them. I guess they need to maintain that image if they don't want others to fuck with them.

Blacks in Africa start wars with each other all the time. Whites are just better at war - probably because of our higher IQ.

They are, so fucking what? Is it really high IQ to be a warmonger? What is the meaning of this intelligence in the first place? Sociopaths with higher IQ is white people. Currently half the whites are fighting the other half, how does high IQ even matter at this point because both sides (both whites) are propagating conflicting ideas? The fuck do you do with IQ in this case? When both sides have abandoned good or humanity, higher IQ will only lead to more ugliness and death. I don't mind whiteys using nukes and ending it for some civilizations, instead they play this passive aggressive war where neither sides win, terrorist groups rise and pollute other countries, aconomic and war migrants created throughout the world by white people. And then the same white people complain when immigrants invade their nation. Alt-right is the only pro-isolationist group in the US, yet they don't have any power and are thought of as worse than nazis by 99.999% of the populace. Lololol higher IQ my ass.

Morality has nothing to do with intelligence

spoken like a true mentalcel.

Morality leads to long term survival of a civilization, which is a the goal of a high IQ society. If you use your 'higher IQ' for short term goals and long term disasters, you're no different from Jews in the western nations. Intelligence is shown off in many ways - spatial, mathematical, political, philosophical, literature, social etc. An intelligent group of people usually have well-rounded IQ which check multiple boxes. Such a group of people would definitely want long term survival of its people, which white people don't want.

Morality leads to long term survival of a civilization

Except when it leads to allowing your civilization to be overrun by people mentally incapable of contributing to it.

Not allowing people into your country is not immoral. But invading other countries is. I am all for closed borders like Japan. That doesn't mean droning a random village in the middle east or arming terrorist/rebels in Afghanistan to fight a proxy war with Russia.

Not allowing people into your country is not immoral. But invading other countries is. I am all for closed borders like Japan. That doesn't mean droning a random village in the middle east or arming terrorist/rebels in Afghanistan to fight a proxy war with Russia.

Braveo. I'd have said Syria, instead of Afghanistan. I maybe also added a violent overthrow of the government of the Ukraine with a junta of literal Nazis, to start a civil war and ethnic cleansing of Russians along the Russian border, as a proxy war and provocation and encirclement of Russia.

Wow you're such a reject that the color of your skin is the only thing you can take pride in? Sad.

so? arabs had higher IQ than you guys. but you and the mogoles came and fucked the whole middle east up

arabs had higher IQ than you guys

Citation needed.

yeah, you guys were burning witches and lobotomizing people, while other made progress. keep coping.

Arabs were raping kids and stole their number system from India. This game is fun. You still haven't provided a citation for your assertion that Arabs "had higher IQ" than whites.

do you even know how IQ works?

Yes. From your claim, it's obvious that you do not.

Lmao, this comment is astounding dumb

Absolutely nothing in that article contradicts anything I've said.

That's way too much propaganda for me to read, keep it to one paragraph soygoy

holy fuck this. This is reflected (at least in theory) in their foreign policy. I think it is just a facade though, it is basically just Israel dictating what middle eastern nation they should fuck up next and blame lack of democracy in that country.

They must believe in a just world because they don't want to accept their good fortune was handed to them via genetics. I'd be shocked if the relationship did not hold up over time. Once they begin careers they must believe in a just world even more so they don't have to accept that their success was at least partially the result of their attractiveness. Fuck em.

"Don't worry bro just talk to her."

It all makes sense now

Nah. I'm attractive born into a wealthy family and I still get depressed sometimes.

The girl i think I'm in love with is 3 hours away and were both insanely busy:( hurts man

Damn dude, Your life is so hard :(

I mean I'm in engineering school so it kinda is

Did I just have a stroke?

weird. i never needed to look up a study to know this fact.

so I scrolled through your comments and stumbled upon this :

Someone asked you if you would date your looksmatch, and you answered:

Sigh. I would. But I would not be happy. No one will be happy settling. The majority of men here also want a girl way out of their league. They just deny it.

THIS is the FUNDAMENTAL reason why women CANNOT be incel.

I semi fall in love with literally any woman that smiles to me, no matter her looks. I would LOVE to have a monogamous and fullfilling relationship with my looksmatch, if she loved me back.

However, women are not like that. They only "settle" for their looksmatch, they're NEVER happy unless its chad.

You , like all femoid mammals, are the selective gender, you are not capable of love, you only select for the best male, and "settle" for the best one you can get, and you'll never be happy unless you get chad, by your very own admission.

You dont deserve that.

There might be a sub for that, but you ain't no incel.

Uhhhhhh okay

You are making yourself feel worthless.

I've met some first gen immigrants who did and some who didn't.

When I was in school, many of my immigrant classmates whined about the classes instead of studying. One even cried when she did badly on a test.