What could women mean by this???

85  2018-03-30 by Theblackpillgospel

291 comments

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In my experience cheating causes more stress than it’s worth. That article is very dumb.

What do you mean "in my experience"? Lol.

I’ve cheated

It's good you're against it now after it caused you so much stress.

Better late than never I guess.

Whore

It wasn’t for money

Still an inmoral whore.

Isn’t the proper term “immoral slut”?

Lol you're a stupid whore.

I still feel like that word doesn’t apply to me exactly. There was no prostitution involved.

Even worse when it's just for pleasure, at least money is essentially a need.

you're a fucking cheater but you come on this sub every day to take the moral high ground? JFL

Who said anything about a moral high ground? I come here for entertainment.

jfl at femails in 2018.

Each one that comes here says "Not all women are like that!!! Not all of us are cheaters!!" but they themselves are all cheaters. First mraggan, now you. lmfao

I am a guy.

So you don't like cheating for purely selfish reasons?

Yeah basically. I’m kind of ambivalent towards it at most.

Thats the point of these articles, to normalize open relationships so people don't feel stressed or guilty about cheating.

Oh that’s a good idea then

No its not.

To each their own

LOL

"it's a good idea to normalize cheating"

fuck you, roast

It would make things easier for me.

Fuck of cumdumpster, in a decent society you'd get stoned for that

Nah I’m a guy so it’s fine in those societies.

Then the women would be, regardless it would be a dead slut.

You're referencing 'babe' now? Is this your leisure material? So much confirmation bias around here

I think they read stuff from retarded sources because of confirmation bias.

Babe has exploded in popularity recently, especially after they broke the story on Aziz Ansari. Whether you like it or not, it's an online magazine written by young women for young women, and this is reflective to a certain degree of their views.

That's my point. It lost all credibility after that story. There was a reason no one reputable published it.

Why are you reading publications by young women for young women anyway? How about things written by strong men for other men? So some balls could develop, and perhaps one day drop? Instead of looking for ways to validate the shit beliefs that exist here

Lol. I bet you read a lot of magazines by strong men for other strong men. Maybe even magazines with lots of strong men together, acting all strong and manly with each other.

But for those of us young men who have a sexual interest in women, we know that what those women think matters, as they act as the sexual selectors in life. So reading what they themselves are writing can be instructive.

The Blackpillgospel is so right. You need to not only read but listen to groups of women to learn what they want. Take it from experience.

The problem is, you're reading about the wrong kind of women. Stupid gossip magazines (? I dunno if it's called a magazine if it's online) like that do not reflect MOST women's views. If you think that they do, 1. you're dumb, and 2. you're seriously wasting your time.

Enlighten us please, what is the right kind of whamen?

Look at miggy truck. Season ain't over yet guys

What?

Not a freaking bimbo, lol.

Easier to find a needle in a haystack as opposed to a slut.

I'm gonna go ahead and say with 100% certainty that's not true. Unless you have a metal detector for the needle in the haystack, in which case yes, that would be easier. But finding it the old fashioned way? Definitely easier to find a girl who's not a slut. How old are you, out of curiosity?

I really thing we have much different standards for what we codnisder a slut.

Slut: noun derogatory a woman who has many casual sexual partners.

What is your definition?

And how old are you? You didn't answer my question.

Okay we have the same definition, so now we just need to get you to define where you draw the line so you can see how vastly different from where I draw the line. I consider a girl to be a slut if she has sex with more than one guy in her life time, has sex before marriage, gets into a relationship wanting sex, and I am also extending the definition a bit to cover women who intentionally expose more of themself intentionally to try to make their sexual features seem more pronounced. You never see a man walking around with his balls on display for the world for the world but you see plenty of women showing off their cleavage.

I'm 19, if it really matters so much, My odds of finding a virgin in around the same age as me is very low.

First of all, cleavage is not exactly the same as showing your balls, lol. More like if you wore tight pants or a wife-beater to "show off the goods" if you know what I mean.

My question about your age was because I was going to tell you that you'll grow out of this phase of self-pity and (if you stop being so negative) will find a girlfriend, too. Because you're at the right age that you could still grow out of this ridiculous mindset.

However, based on your strict policies (hello, /r/ChoosingBeggars), I'm less hopeful for that, for you. It's 2018, and like it or not, many women do not wait until marriage to have sex. Honestly though, I'm sure it makes people happier when they do get married since they know that they're sexually compatible before they tie the knot. (As an aside, do you not believe couples should live together before marriage, either?).

Have you considered starting to go to church? If you immerse yourself in some Catholicism or something, you could very well meet a good-church-going girl who's waiting for sex until marriage. That's not to say you couldn't find someone elsewhere, but that might be your best bet.

However, based on your strict policies (hello, /r/ChoosingBeggars), I'm less hopeful for that, for you

More like preferences, I'd settle for a slut if she would settle down with me.

'm less hopeful for that, for you. It's 2018, and like it or not, many women do not wait until marriage to have sex. Honestly though, I'm sure it makes people happier when they do get married since they know that they're sexually compatible before they tie the knot.

Statistics would disagree with you on stats when it comes to sleeping around making people happier in marriage, No clue what you even mean by sexual compatibility but that shouldn't be the deciding factor. I'm still pretty harsh when it comes to living together.

I've tried church for dating but I just don't have any way do strike up a conversation besides, if a woman was going to choose someone to settle down with she wouldn't choose anyone other than a chad with a high paying job.

Your defeatist attitude is what drives girls away. 100%, without a doubt, this is why.

Hmm, sexual compatibility is a big thing. If two virgins get married before sleeping together, then discover they don't have any sexual chemistry, this tends to be a problem for them. That's what I mean by, if they sleep together before marrying, they might learn that they aren't that interested in sex together. Believe it or not, not all people are.

And for what it's worth, since you're still young enough to hopefully acknowledge this advice, living together before getting married is generally a good idea. It gives the couple a chance to learn each others' habits and get used to it. For example, if you throw your clothes all over the floor, and your soon-to-be-wife never does the dishes, and you two don't learn this until after you're married, the problems will be a lot bigger than if you learned them sooner in your relationship and were able to fix them right away. You know?

And your statement about the "fact" that women will only settle down with Chad with a high-paying job... shows me that no matter what I say, I'll be wrong, because you're so set in these idiotic beliefs. You're so young and have tons of time to find a partner, but you never will with this attitude. So I mean, I guess good luck, but if you don't seriously change your way of thinking, you'll never be happy. (Surprise: tons and tons and tons of people get married and are happy, and only a tiny portion of them are Chads with high paying jobs).

That's what I mean by, if they sleep together before marrying, they might learn that they aren't that interested in sex together. Believe it or not, not all people are.

Good sex isn't important to a relationship IMO, if it was two virgins then they would just think sex sucks in general, if sex affects the decision then that just drives the woman to be a whore.

And for what it's worth, since you're still young enough to hopefully acknowledge this advice, living together before getting married is generally a good idea. It gives the couple a chance to learn each others' habits and get used to it. For example, if you throw your clothes all over the floor, and your soon-to-be-wife never does the dishes, and you two don't learn this until after you're married, the problems will be a lot bigger than if you learned them sooner in your relationship and were able to fix them right away. You know?

Or you could just occasionally pop in uninvited occasionally to take a look at what her habits are like before marriage.

You're so young and have tons of time to find a partner, but you never will with this attitude

It doesn't matter if I change my attitude I still won't be able to meet a woman.

Lololol.

Alright, you stick to your deluded fantasy world. I seriously wish you all the best, and hope in 10 years you're thinking back to the posts you made as a 19 year old and feeling embarrassed because people like me were right all along.

No, I'm serrious my problem is I have no way to even talk to a woman.

What do you mean?

No point to start a conversation from.

Oh, I thought you meant literally like you were stranded on a desert island and there were only men around, lol.

What do you do for fun? Do you go to college? What kind of music do you listen to?

Oh, the usual. I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback.

Not much, no, and nothing

Soo... you don't leave your house, and you don't listen to any music? Do you work?

Not yet.

You've never had a job, you mean?

Hey, this could be good! I got a job a few years before I was your age, and it helped me to open up and make new friends. Honestly, I think work is a great place to network. Have you considered restaurant work? (Not fast food, but like, in an actual restaurant, in the kitchen?) I think that the kitchen workers/server and front-of-house relationship is a good excuse to be able to get used to talking to girls. As a girl, I was kind of intimidated by that aspect at first, like needing to walk behind where the chef was working to put pots away, and I'd have to say "behind you!" so he didn't bump into me with anything hot, and when I moved from kitchen to front-of-house I had to be used to basically working as a team with people in the kitchen. Work is a great way to ease you into that, and to network. I'm just saying specifically, restaurant work was an awesome first job for me. I would consider it.

Why don't you listen to music, if I may ask? That's always been my biggest factor in being with a boyfriend, shared musical taste. I tried going out with one guy who listened to absolute garbage (only because he and I used to go to shows together of the music I like, so he used to like it to), and it was a terrible relationship. I find that I'm much more compatible with people with the same music taste as me.

(That said, if you started listening to - and enjoying - music, you could go to shows too, which are a great place to talk to people, even if it's just for practicing talking to girls, but like, I've met boyfriends at shows too. It's not unheard of).

That's weird, a magazine written by young women is absolute horseshit? Whaaaaaat?

Shut the fuck up retard

What? A gynocentric magazine written by young femails isn't reputable! Well I never...

I would like to meet the woman who wrote this article. 😏

Chad has a good cock and is and makes me orgasm, but he doesn't tell me how proud he is about my job, how cute I am looking, how wonderful I am so I need two men for both of my needs teehee.

A lot of the married women in the area I live in have side relationships and not just with men.

...What the fuck...

Yes, some of the women are bisexual or closeted lesbians that are married to men so they can appear to be straight and have kids. A lot of closeted gay and lesbians because of it being a conservative and religious area.

They aren't very closeted if they are out fucking women. That just adds another layer to how fucked up this is.

My guess is that the roastie is in a relationship with a beta, and she wrote this to justify her propensity for chad cock. If she were in a relationship that she respected she wouldn't be so open to it, as it would likely mean that the guy would be able to do this as well, which is something that most women can't handle.

All women cheat, nothing new here.

Pretty awesome blanket statement there, retard

Why don't you relax bud? Your entire profile is you getting triggered.

Here we go. Referring to my past statements to use as your entire argument. Isn't he the smartest person around? Oh my God guys...

uh. you can get a gauge of what a person is like from their comment history. if you get triggered a lot, like you're doing now, then it's fair to call it out.

Apparently I'm the only adult here. You can stop commenting now.

36 minutes later and no response. That's what I thought, bitch

how the fuck does somebody have -100 total comment karma without straight up trolling lol

That's a good question, I'm almost sure he's a troll.

all women genders cheat, nothing new here

Not really, men are more loyal than women, and they also don't have anywhere near as many opportunities to cheat. Women just go for the douchebags who do cheat.

reality says differently

Self reported, guarantee that the women surveyed lied about cheating.

How could you possibly guarantee that?

Women are good liars, and get caught cheating at a much lower rate than men.

Source?

Well I'm listening to The Weeknd's new EP so you'll have to give me a few minutes lol

Uh huh.

Yeah "uh uh" I'm not here to provide for you when it's convenient for you.

No you're just here to state unsourced subjective opinions that aren't even based on personal experience to maintain a worldview in which you're a victim.

Being a victim has nothing to do with it since I'm not in a relationship, and therefore can't get cheated on. Go off though.

reality

Even if that were true, women have a thousand more opportunities to cheat than men.

Your faux egalitarian faggotry impresses no one here, this isn't your bubble safe space.

Says the man in the echo chamber

That's why he said it's not your safe space. All of reddit is an echo chamber, and this part is ours

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Fat cunt

She looks like a pretty normal person, what are we meant to be hating here

Her repellant personality.

Uhhhhh

her article?

just wasn't sure why OP posted a picture of her

Not gonna lie, this article almost rustled my jimmies. Got a look at her, and I can practically taste the bitterness.

She's the incel ideology but in reverse.

Absolutely disgusting

wtf is this shit...I can guarantee you that the women who believe this are rare and stupid as fuck

True. People drop following Babe all the time because they post so many stupid bs articles like this. Soooo annoying because Babe is way off the mark when it comes to the majority of women.

wtf is this shit...I can guarantee you that the women who believe this are rare and stupid as fuck

Can't handle AWALT, and inherent dual mating strat of females; btw, doesn't matter if a woman believes it, women are masters of cognitive dissonance, it only matters what her actions are.

Most women don’t act like this...

Most women don’t act like this...

Even if that was true, it doesn't mean that most women wouldn't act like that, given the right opportunity and circumstances and weak Beta who they sense they'll be able to reduce to a cuck.

um idk why type of women you’re talking to but most women even if given the chance don’t even think about doing it

um idk why type of women you’re talking to but most women even if given the chance don’t even think about doing it

Right, and most men never let themselves even think about it either. Women are just as sexual as men, but it is in women's interests to convince men this isn't true, do to conflicting sexual strategies, so here you are.

Contrary to your belief most people are actually decent

I can guarantee

But can you prove?

um yes. I can.

Please do.

Well, first, there’s my mom, who hasn’t left my dad despite numerous opportunities to, and has not cheated once. There’s my grandma, who has been married to my grandpa for 54 years, never once left or cheated. All of the women I know and admire have never once cheated.

look at my anecdotal totally subjective experience as "proof"

It's like no matter how little I expect of normtards, I always end up disappointed anyway.

Can you prove all women are malicious chad-followers? No.

I don't have to, hypergamy has been proven ages ago.

Then dont criticize someone else for anecdotal evidence, if you cannot supply your own.

I just did. Google it moron.

How about you google cheating stats? And see how much of it is actually true.

You people use some really fucking terrible arguments.

This is gross

your roastie vagina is gross you fat overweight harpie.

Fuck off back to your dead ass sub filled with bots.

Wtf dude. Really? Because i find what the article says to be gross?

If this is how you act it explains alot.

Only happens to guys with small dicks. It's over

I'm going to go Amish. Too many hoes and harlotry about in the US.

Such fucking degeneracy. This just proves that hypergamy isn't biological and is culturalal.

Yes, because this one article defines all women and all relationships. You guys have thin skin, JFC

It doesn't, but it's increasingly common. It isn't "having thin skin" to critique women in what they're saying.

One woman wrote this article. Just because she feels this way, it certainly does not mean most women feel this way. It's stupid.

You really believe only one woman thinks this way?

People are going to say offensive shit. You're not going to like everyone and what they have to say. Instead of getting butthurt about it, so what everyone else does and just roll your eyes and move on.

Why didn't you take your own advice before commenting on my thread?

Just trying to give you some life advice. If you let every little thing get under your skin you're just gonna be mad all the time and that's no fun.

Your posts on here scream anger much more than mine do, tbh. Maybe you should take your own advice?

Eh, I'm waiting for my work shift to start so as of right now I got nothing better to do

Has anyone looked into if most incels are autistic?

Definitely not an angry comment here.

You're right. I'm interested in if incels are autistic.

Lol no clearly others do too, but NOT the majority of women.

How would you know? In our experience, many women are like this.

And what, exactly, is your experience? How old are you? How many women have you dated?

I happen to be a woman, and can tell you that not one of my friends that I've ever known would agree with this article (or the portion of it you posted, at least. I didn't go and find the real thing because I know it will just enrage me).

I happen to be a woman, and can tell you that not one of my friends that I've ever known would agree with this article

What a woman says, thinks, and does are three different and irreconcilable things, even to the woman herself.

Okay, none of my friends are in freaking cheating relationships. One of my friends did in high school, and we all were pretty appalled. Having a "side piece" is something like famous gangsters do. If a woman you're talking to is inclined to do something like this, talk to another woman. Trust me, there are plenty out there who don't want to do this shit.

One woman wrote this article. Just because she feels this way, it certainly does not mean most women feel this way. It's stupid.

Leftist media is currently pushing cucking as the new gold standard for heterosexual relationships. If history is anything to go by, it will only take 40 years or less, maybe only four years (look how fast they mainstreamed trannies), to make it so you're an evil bigot if you're not practicing open marriage.

Alright buddy.

Idk, most of the situations I'm aware of involved men pushing for an open relationship.

r/TheRedPill isn't most situations, unless you spend a lot of time reading that and dating only Chads. Most men aren't pushing for it.

Why do incels always think they have better anecdotal evidence than people who have actually been in relationships?

We know more men than you have dated.

Most men don't want open relationships. If your anecdotal experience is different, it could be because you're dating a certain type of guy who does (Chads, alphas). Doesn't mean most guys do.

In fact, your anecdotal experience confirms BlackPill/RedPill. The rest of men are just invisible to you, so you're not factoring most men into your evidence, just the players/Chads/Alphas you know.

Using your logic would seem to confirm the bias you have--you assume that because I'm a woman the only men I know are men that I've dated? That I couldn't possibly know as many men as you let alone women and couples of differing types of personalities with different dating preferences?

It always astonishes me how quick you guys are to assume certainty about things you profess to have no experience with.

Either way without hard evidence the only thing either of us can offer is conjecture. And it's foolish for either of us to assume an absolute condition when it's more likely that different people have different tastes and preferences, regardless of gender.

You say

you assume that because

while I said

it could be because

It "could be" is not an assuming certainty. It's conjecture.

This is a common IT troll thing. Projecting that we're making assumptions and generalizations when we're not, so that it's easier for you to argue against. Bullies.

You should take a look in the mirror. How often are you assuming certainty about incels? How often do you take one cherry-picked incel quote and project it onto other incels? A lot of the IT sub does. I'm not ASSUMING you do too, but these are questions worth asking yourself.

You said

We know more men than you have dated

How is that not certainty?

Have you dated more than 500 men?

In general, a community of men is probably going to understand male preferences in dating better than a woman.

Assuming you know what men want just because you've dated some men and have male friends is no less arrogant than incels assuming they know what women want, making you a huge hypocrite.

You're jumping all over the place. The original incel argument was that all women want open relationships. My counterpoint was that most open relationships I'm aware of were initiated by the men. How could being a part of a community of incel men give you any more of an idea of whether men in relationships try to open them up than my experience with people in either genders who are in open/closed relationships and the communities they are part of?

It's an absurd argument that you guys are always making, and your attempt to misstate my point is just illogical and derailing.

I got put up on IT just for being against casual sex...

Marriage is basically dead anyway. They just want to destroy the remaining ones.

I hate leftists so fucking much, I'm convinced they are trying to cause societal collapse. The shit they push is basically treasonous.

Many women write similar articles/messages and convince other women that this is the way to happiness.

They're not writing it in their private diaries. They're writing it on mass media, hoping to reach as many readers and subscribers as possible. They're not even phrasing it as "this is what I enjoy in my quirky way." It's prescriptive advice. If their intention isn't to influence others' behavior, they must be shockingly naive narcissists.

Hey! I was trying to remember your username because we've spoken before but you deleted all your comments so I couldn't find you again. How's it goin?

Regarding this comment: So whatever, lets say 1000 women agree with this article. What about the millions of women who don't? Just because some women feel a certain way, you can't cast the stone that all women must. That's dumb.

Anyways, we talked last time about something else, probably about meeting women in real life since I'm big on that, and how the guys I've dated were certainly not Chads. I was thinking about it though, and I wonder if my experience differs from yours because I've always sort of been part of the counter-culture, so to speak. Like, I've been going to punk shows since I was 15 for example, so maybe (since music taste is my biggest interest in a man) because of the punk scene I'm less interested in attractive guys. My biggest celebrity crush was always Fat Mike from NOFX (Google him, he's not an attractive guy) but after reading their biography I like Smelly (Erik Sandin) better. Anyways, I just wonder if the lack of main-stream culture has been a big influence in my life, dating and otherwise (I'm sure it has).

Like, what do you do for fun? What kind of music do you listen to? I'm interested, 'cause I've been wanting to continue my conversation with you for a while.

Oh, the usual. I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback.

You're my favourite bot.

Are you sure? I don't remember you.

Just because some women feel a certain way, you can't cast the stone that all women must. That's dumb.

Please quote where I said "all" and where you weren't just making a strawman. You're doing the equivalent of NotAllMen. You're saying "hey some of us are not like that, so I'm going to ignore the rest of what you're saying instead of discussing the actual issue".

lets say 1000 women agree with this article

It's not just 1000 though. Many millions follow media like this. Millions live this way. So many people are followers and will try out whatever their celebrity idols market as cool, only discovering their own personal wants and needs later in life. Sure, millions of women don't do this. But that ignores the observation that a lot of women are being influenced by media like this.

Maybe being part of the counter culture has an effect. These attitudes are increasingly pervasive in mainstream culture, though. Mainstream culture also has far more sheep who are impressionable and will try out what seems trendy.

Maybe this is a bigger problem in the states than Canada, because I don't encounter it half as often as you claim it to be happening.

And why not just fuck mainstream culture then? Join the counter-culture lol, it's much more fun, and I feel like if you think looks are your problem, they will be less of a problem there. Like, I find people who listen to EDM or other electronic music tend to be more judgemental than other music listeners. You always see the young girls with all the fancy fake jewelry on and stuff... the EDM club scene would be one to avoid if you're self-conscious, you know what I mean?

And I'm sure it was you, I was trying to find you as Phu_Cheet but that wasn't your username lol. That's okay if you don't remember. I'm just some other idiot on Reddit who doesn't think the same way as you do.

What were we talking about before? Reddit has so many users with similar names.

I can't speak for Canada. In the US, articles like this often pop up on women's media. Other advice columns recommend having a slutty phase in college or after college, as part of self-discovery. Chelsea Handler became famous writing books about sleeping around, then got a talk show, and another show... Other female comedians play up the casual sex attitude too. Recent feminist movies explore having an affair and justifications for it. Where are the matching messages telling women "hey, there's nothing wrong if you prefer LTRs and monogamy too"?

Join the counter-culture lol, it's much more fun, and I feel like if you think looks are your problem, they will be less of a problem there.

It depends. You have to have a counter-culture style and aesthetic to fit in, otherwise you still get judged. I tried when I was younger and was rejected for not fitting in, ironically. Race probably didn't help.

See, I think that's silly. The point of the counter-culture is not fitting in with the mainstream culture. There is not not fitting in with the counter-culture; we're the misfits. It's great. I mean whatever, obviously it's not for everyone, but I feel like if some Incels started listening to punk or metal and going to shows and moshing and stuff, it would probably feel great. AND I've met many friends and a few boyfriends at concerts. You get out, you do something fun, you meet people. Ya know?

I dunno what we were talking about before, but I remember I told you about how I met my boyfriend (worked at a hotel together if that rings a bell).

Well, maybe I am just a fucking dinosaur who's set in her ways, and all my friends are too, but apart from the media I don't see any people in real life going for this stuff. That's all. Sure, maybe the media will manage to push some people into non-monogamous relationships, but by no means does that mean it will become the norm.

I agree it's silly. But the reality is most people aren't as progressive and accepting as they like to think they are. Even counter-culture people can be cliquish and superficial.

When I was younger I went to punk and metal shows. It was mostly white guys with a certain look. I didn't fit in. I got judged for it. I saw women meet counter-culture Chads at those shows, but guys like me still got rejected and ignored. The reality is that no matter what scene you're in, attractive people are more likely to meet people. It's human nature.

Oh yeah, OK I remember your hotel story.

I disagree for the punk culture. Appearance is far less important. I'm commenting to someone else in this thread about a guy I used to date (mohawk guy as he's called in my other comments) because he was a punk and we liked to rock out together and get drunk in public, but like, he had meth teeth. Like, many rotted teeth (gross, but I liked him anyways), which I'm positive is not an attractive "Chad" trait.

Did you go to punk shows because you thought it would be easier to hook up with punk chicks, or did you go because you loved the music? 'Cause maybe that's a problem too, that you have to legitimately enjoy the music being played, otherwise yeah, you're probably going to get made fun of for being a poser. But even if you get made fun of but you like the music, go again. Get over it, these people can't gatekeep you. You know what I mean? For me, anyways, someone makes fun of me for not wearing the "right" clothes? Well, fuck you, I'm here to enjoy myself.

I dunno, I just think you're entirely wrong that only attractive people get dates. Because I've dated guys that you wouldn't consider attractive, I'm certain of it. I think your view of attractiveness is being skewed by something - likely the echo-chamber you submit yourself to.

Hey, it's me again, I was just thinking - what shows did you go to??? Like, what were the bands?

Half the relationships I see today are poly and it's fucked up.

How old are you, and how many couples do you know? I'm not doubting you, just curious, since I know zero poly couples at 27.

I honestly don't know any couples any more, the last girl I went after I pretty much stole from a poly relationship and still got friendzoned by.

Then what are you talking about that half the couples you see are poly, if you literally don't know any couples?

You see there is a past and a present, I used to know couples, and in terms of the recent long term ones from a young age about have of the somewhat long term ones have been poly, all other girls are on a carousel of cock anyway.

Lololololol. (laugh out loud out loud out loud out loud out loud)

This kind of shit will create more women like this it wil be a snowball effect until all women are massive gaping cum dumpsters.

This really is a growing trend. Whats being advocated and done during this new wave of "sexual liberation" has never been advocated before. No one in the 50's, 70's, or early 2000's was this open about these deviant activities. Mainstream news articles are letting people wright articles about open relationships, swinging, cuckolding, sleeping with who ever whenever. You're basically denying that the culture is changing, which is something it has always done.

I'm not denying that some people do this. I'm denying that most people do this.

The point of the articles is to get most people used to this.

Most people who read "Babe". Most intelligent adults do not read those trashy magazines.

Little girls grow up watching the Kardashians as role models. Divorce, abortion, porn, stupidity, whoredom. That is what the millennials and the generation after have been brought up on.

If you are't an obnoxious, illiterate idiot(most rapers) or a rich celebrity you are nothing. Why do so many middle class white kids try to act black or act ghetto. They want to be like the "cool" sound cloud rappers. Why are so many girls getting pregnant, because everyone else is doing it.

Barf, the thought of kids growing up watching the Kardashians makes me really sad and angry. I have a son, and I know I'll have to deal with stupid moms once he's old enough to go to school. But, uh, I'm quite sure that even if you aren't an obnoxious, illiterate idiot or a rich celebrity, you aren't nothing. Source: I'm not an obnoxious, illiterate idiot OR a rich celebrity, nor is anyone I know, and that doesn't mean we are nothing. I'm happy, and my family is happy, and my friends are happy, all for the most part anyways. Definitely not nothing. Maybe I don't understand what you mean by that, so correct me if I'm taking it the wrong way.

If it was up to me abortions would be done with a bullet to the head, that's what those whores get for getting knocked up with a baby they dont want.

Lol you MUST be a troll. Because you can’t seriously say things like “what those whores get for getting knocked up” like you think they just bought sperm at a store and squirted it up inside themselves without any help from a guy and his dick.

The guy has less to do with it, it isn't as much his problem if there is a baby. unless the bitch makes him pay child support for her being a whore.

Total troll.

Women could lie to a guy about being on birth control just for the sake of of getting the child support money and if she doesn't want to go through with it she can get an abortion, it's fucked up how screwed over men are.

“For the sake of getting the child support money”??? As if it’s ever enough to pay for all that the child needs. What’s more, it certainly doesn’t outweigh the responsibility, time, and toll it takes to raise a child, especially when douchebags like you dip out.

Right, because I'm the kind of douche bag to get a girl pregnant and then leave her... Regardless I'm sure that in many places that the child support is enough to provide the child with a poverty lifestyle and pay for what is required by law to be done if it is nothing major.

Ok so...

Debate aside, in all seriousness, how can you feel this way and say and think these things about women and yet, presumably, want to be with one? I honestly can’t understand how it can all coincide in your mind.

I just want to know what affection from a woman is like. And if women weren't whores I'd have less problems with them.

Jesus, dude.

I hate sexual "liberation" more than anything, it's fucking producing terrorists.

You’re right. It wasn’t like this in the past decades. On the contrary, it was MEN promoting this and much more, for years and years and years. Promoting it, bragging about it, congratulating other men on their achievements.

No, it wasn't at all. Mainstream news sources and society in general promoted monogamy and sexual decency. In their own personal lives some men were open about their sexual exploits. In the 1950's no credible newspaper would have printed anything about how awesome cuckolding or open relationships were.

We must be from different timelines of reality.

Women denying female nature:

not all women

Women decrying male nature:

ALL MEN ARE LIKE THAT

hmmmMMmmMMmmMMmMmmmmmMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Uh... did I ever say that all men are the same? Lol. I'm not an idiot, I know all humans are different. HmmmmmmmMMMMmmmmMMM indeed.

Normies love stupid boilerplate responses until they can't answer a criticism of one.

Can someone take this roastie trash out, please? It's stinking up the fucking place.

What do you mean by boilerplate responses? Your criticism is that I say all men are one way? Fucking check my 6 years of comment/post history, dude, and find a single example of me saying "all men are the same". Like, come on. Only idiots think that all women are one way, and that all men are one way. Every person is different despite similarities.

It reflects a growing trend in feminists circles where a minority of casual sex-loving sluts get a podium to authoritatively tell all other "enlightened" women to go sleep around or rationalize having an affair. The result is that most women end up sleeping around with Chads and cheating on their betas. It may not even be in their nature, but women they look up to are telling them to do it and Tinder makes it so easy. This ends up ruining the dating market for the rest of us.

That's quite a theory

You don't have to believe the theory, but the observations are consistent at least. There are a lot of women sending messages like this in the media, encouraging other women that the feminist way to happiness is sleeping around.

That hasn't been my experience

Literally click the link right before your eyes. Then you'll have "experienced" it.

What? The article link?

Not everything is about you, honey. Your little irrelevant anecdotal evidence counts for nothing, sweetie. So shut the fuck up.

That's funny coming from an incel

A GAME THEORY

It ruins more than dating markets, it will ruin even current relationships.

And probably even western civilization (together with p.c. culture)

Agreed, that's why I'm calling this kind of shit to be treason, I see it as an attack on our civilization, society, way of life government, and the people.

"one article"

Clueless roastie is clueless.

So what, people literally aren't allowed to discuss anything unless it clearly reflects everyone on the planet? Maybe you're the one with thin skin.

I'm not the one spending most of my day bitching about women on the internet 😂😂😂

Huh, neither am I. So I guess that doesn't count for much.

One article that the author deserves to be arrested for, this shit is essentially telling people to ruin society. if there was an article encouraging mass murder what do you think would happen? This is just a way of forcing women to create mass murder.

Ever heard of freedom of speech?

Yeah, shit like this is why I am against it rather than having a set code of what can be said.

Maybe go move to north Korea then?

I couldn't even if I wanted to, I'm pretty sure they have sensible immigration laws that don't allow anyone in. Would be nice if western countries had laws like that...

Well then I guess you gotta make the most of what you have instead of fighting reality

Or I should just force people to accept that freedom of speech is bad for society.

Good luck with that

I will be having some damn good luck when I'm arrested for speaking against freedom of speech.

I'm not sure you understand how the us government works

How it works for now, once there are enough people like me they will have to be dealt with to save a fucked up idea.

Women don’t deserve rights.

say it again

Wise words, truecel.

Humanity was a mistake.

r/misanthropy

Feminist sexual liberation is actually the most patriarchal thing ever. They think they are being liberated but in fact what they do is gravitate towards Chads, forming harems around them. What women want is the right not to be judged for being a slut which is what they are. They claim biology doesn't exist, and that there is not human nature. Everything is a social construct. Wrong! Deep down they are still females who desire dominate, good looking, successful, alphas. When given the option, thats who they go to for sexual pleasure.

The moment you give up on monogamy and other social controls women go insane, forming packs around the nearest alpha male authority figure. The best athletes at their high school, internet "celebrities", sound cloud rappers, pimps, drug dealers, rich men, etc.

Marriage is down, divorce is up, hundreds of thousands of American women are making amateur porn at their leisure for easy money, many more are making it with their local Chad or Tyrone. Millions are having kids out of marriage and living of the state claiming to be independent producing delinquent offspring. Cheating is rampant as are STD's. Men are called womanizers or fuckboys if they sleep around, while women are empowered for it. Women demand that the state pay for their sex life(abortion and contraceptives). The family unit is effectively dead.

Good point. Feminism has started to conflict with human nature.

Masculine men are toxic, masculinity is toxic!

Proceeds to bang and date the most masculine men she can find.

Not the only contradiction in their philosophy, though.

Slut shaming is bad. Don't call women sluts!

Then calls herself a "proud slut" and intentionally identifies as one.

exactly, society is fucked and people are making it that way.

We need to learn from the Middle East, fast.

This is females in 2018. Are you happy with yourselves? You fucking rethsjgfxnkcmghknmfhghhfhfhfnbnbbnb

I LITERALLY hate all authors on babe.com. That site is such fucking cancer. Its like an internet tumor, much like how cosmo is a tumor in the form of a magazine.

Controversy sells. The media is more competitive than ever and you have to absurd nowadays to gain any ground.

It doesn't matter whether they represent anyone what matters more is that they represent a certain shrill perspective that people remember.

Think of buzz feed

This kind of shit is fucking treason, it is destroying the countries it is seen in, it should no be allowed to stand, the authors deserve prison at best

Look into the history of the word floozie. It's been around for a while.

Everything has always existed, the only difference is that certain aspects of society are less censored.

Some men also buy poop, if that suddenly became something less taboo it would seem like way more people are into it based on media representation

This SHOULD be censored, this is the kind of thing that NEEDS to be censored it turns women into even bigger whores than they already are and tell them it's okay they should be getting told that they deserve to be stoned for it.

Censoring it never did any good. In fact it often makes things worse since it drives it under ground. Even back during the Victorian days when the media exaggerated the fuck out of everyone purity we had things like BDSM and the hell fire club

Having it being driven underground is good, purity should be forced down everyones throat whether they like it or not, less people would find it if it was more underground which is good, we need the deviants to know they are looked down on. and they need to be looked down on.

Laws that aren't congruent with human nature always backfire and create way worse problems.

There's a reason why wasp culture bore BDSM and satanic orgy culture. Even the high incidence of sexually motivated serial killers from Jack the ripper were a product of suppression.

It's better for fucked up things to be the counter culture as opposed to the actual culture. Laws are meant to not be congruent with human nature if they weren't then they would hardly be necessary anti-rape laws are HIGHLY against human nature but they still exist and have existed for at least decades, probably centuries.

Rape laws are an extension of counter culture. Every culture has rape laws because we all naturally want to smash rapists so the state does it for us.

Except women want to smash them in a different way... And a lot of guys can sympathize with rapists.

Yea. Everyone hates rapists regardless of if there is an aberrant few who are.

We wouldn't need laws if there were not rapists.

It's like how we have a fire station because we don't like our things burning even if there are a few Pyromaniacs out there who would disagree.

I personally think that someone who has been deprived of sex their whole live and views all women as used up emotionless whores can easily sympathize with a rapist and soon enough that's what most guys will be like thanks ot how fucked up women are.

There will always be certain population where the stars align and they are incel. Among those people we have the typical spread of psychopaths and normal good people

Yeah, well I'm a normal good person.

Good for you. It's really dangerous to suggest that incels should all be evil. The expectancy effect is one of the most powerful effects there are. The aboriginal death bone killed people by the sheer power of suggestion.

There have been doctors who inadvertently casted death spells on people by simply misdiagnosing them.

Turning a person into a monster through manipulating their belief system is the foundation of war

Good for you. It's really dangerous to suggest that incels should all be evil.

Pretty much the only way any of us would have women interested in us is if we committed a major crime like murder so it's not like being a good person matters, if it did I'd have women throwing themselves at me like the whores they are.

Turning a person or others into a monster through manipulating their belief system is the foundation of war

You don't have to do much to turn those who are already monster into monsters, just expose the truth like with women though, they are emotionless whores.

Good for you. It's really dangerous to suggest that incels should all be evil.

Pretty much the only way any of us would have women interested in us is if we committed a major crime like murder so it's not like being a good person matters, if it did I'd have women throwing themselves at me like the whores they are.

Naw I know you might be offended if I say that I've seen some incels who I actually even admitted were objectively on the ugly side end up recovering, cracking the virgin seal and are now fine but I have and it's a shame that they all end up realizing that they need to never come back here, not for them, but for the rest of you.

The black pill is a jealous ideology that will do everything it can to keep you. Even the manosphere does whatever it can to rig the lives of its subjects.

I know you are tempted or might even fully believe that no matter what you do sparing plastic surgery, no woman could ever really love you and, just in case the black pill says that any woman who claims to must be lying and will only use you but that's just how it maintains its center of gravity.

I know it's hard struggling where you are but it'll get easier.

A massive illusion that the black pill relies on is to convince you that as hard as it is now is as hard as it will always be. That's why it teaches you that normies must all be one girl away from inceldom but that just isn't true.

https://imgur.com/AsVuu5B

He was once a very outspoken black piller who was actually really antagonistic toward me even. He went from hopeless to dumbing is first girl and looking forward to the next.

He didn't end up some beta orbiter beta bux cuck or anything at all.

Things just change a lot once you crack the virgin seal and it's really important that incels understand that and just focus on getting through that.

Turning a person or others into a monster through manipulating their belief system is the foundation of war

You don't have to do much to turn those who are already monster into monsters, just expose the truth like with women though, they are emotionless whores.

Except they clearly aren't. There will always be a certain subset of psychopaths of every gender in fact you'll notice that all the attacks on women from claims that they are shallow, are only after one thing, are hypergamous, etc etc are all based in the same exact things men have always been accused of.

The next time you wonder why incels are vilified, do a quick reread of this comment. And when you escape the labyrinthine cacophony of bullshit you’ve created for yourself, come back and read this any time you feel the ol’ lady-hate coming back.

What? Because some incels are traumatized to the point they can sympathize with a rapist already? And guess who is to blame for that...

You. You are literally to blame for that. If you have ever thought “You know, those rapists are a little rough but their heart is in the right place,” that is you being a terrible human being. Nobody did that to you. You got there all by yourself, man. Lots of people get hurt, lots of people live their whole lives alone and it’s a fucking unfair tragedy but that doesn’t mean the world owes them a goddamn thing. To even for a moment believe there is anything relatable in the act of rape is to justify unmitigated cruelty for the sake of your own satisfaction.

Life is hard, trauma is universal, solutions exist, increasing the suffering of others is not one of them.

You. You are literally to blame for that. If you have ever thought “You know, those rapists are a little rough but their heart is in the right place,” that is you being a terrible human being. It's more of a "he threw his life away for sex, I can understand being that desperate, I'm really desperate myself and will only get worse."

Nobody did that to you. You got there all by yourself, man.

Women made me understand how bad desperation really is when you just want to know what some kind of affection is like or at least get some kind of emotion out of those cold-hearted bitches.

To even for a moment believe there is anything relatable in the act of rape is to justify unmitigated cruelty for the sake of your own satisfaction.

Not really, feeling like the situation that lead up to that point was the same path your life has been on makes it seem pretty relatable rather than justifying unmitigated cruelty for my own satisfaction, it's just depressing to know you're heading down a similar path in terms of your social life.

Life is hard, trauma is universal, solutions exist, increasing the suffering of others is not one of them.

It really is though if doing what you want causes them to suffer and there isn't really any solution for if you want sex and emotion from woman.

If you see affection as something you “get out of” someone and not something that organically happens when two people care about each other, well, you’re starting from a flawed premise.

And no, “it really is though” is not an argument, especially when the premise of your argument is rapidly becoming “I deserve to rape women because some of them made me sad.”

Look, you’ve spent longer re-rolling characters you didn’t end up using than this video is and I implore you to watch it and try to glean something.

If you see affection as something you “get out of” someone and not something that organically happens when two people care about each other, well, you’re starting from a flawed premise.

Affection only requires one person to care really.

And no, “it really is though” is not an argument, especially when the premise of your argument is rapidly becoming “I deserve to rape women because some of them made me sad.”

My argument was that it would get you sex and at least let you see a woman in an emotional state other than trying to use you.

I really think people need to do anything they can to try and find a woman out of desperation, it's really important.

You would rather see another human in pain, suffering, hating you for what you are doing, hating you for the rest of her and your life, damaged, than learn to live with yourself? The worst part is, I have a feeling as you’re reading that description you’re salivating a little bit and that is disgusting.

“It would let you see a woman in an emotional state other than trying to use you.” Rape. That’s what you’re talking about. Violent assault. It’s not sex. It has nothing to do with sex. You are not having sex with someone when you rape them. You are assaulting them. Just because the weapon is a part of your body you equate with sex does not make that what happened. You win nothing, you possess nothing, you have only made someone else’s life harder and your own more empty. It is assault, it is violence in the most cowardly manner possible.

It’s not important. Your loneliness is not important outside of your head. There is not a silent majority of men who feel this way. I don’t want you to think these things, I honestly don’t believe you’re a terrible person or should kill yourself or whatever the rhetoric is. I want you to do better. But this is a trap of your own design and it feeds itself. Get out of the echo chamber. Work on having a personality that has nothing to do with women or loneliness. I know you’ve heard it, I know you don’t care, but maybe if you hear it enough.

You would rather see another human in pain, suffering, hating you for what you are doing, hating you for the rest of her and your life, damaged, than learn to live with yourself? The worst part is, I have a feeling as you’re reading that description you’re salivating a little bit and that is disgusting.

Women just seem so cold and distant, my point was that it would take something like rape to get any kind of emotion from them, they don't care about anything except getting fucked unless they think their life is in danger. I'm not a rapist but that doesn't mean I can't recognized how cold and distant they are, if feel like they can only use and hate people. with how they act.

“It would let you see a woman in an emotional state other than trying to use you.” Rape. That’s what you’re talking about. Violent assault. It’s not sex. It has nothing to do with sex. You are not having sex with someone when you rape them. You are assaulting them. Just because the weapon is a part of your body you equate with sex does not make that what happened. You win nothing, you possess nothing, you have only made someone else’s life harder and your own more empty. It is assault, it is violence in the most cowardly manner possible.

At the end there you sound like you are promoting murder... But regardless of how fucked up you are that doesn't change that assault would at least let you see them in a different state than cold, distant, and resentful. And it most certainly is sex or at least in the most literal sense. I never said I had a desire to commit rape.

It’s not important. Your loneliness is not important outside of your head.

Right, somebody's mental health isn't important outside of their head until they can't take it anymore and then it does affect people but it's still totally their fault.

There is not a silent majority of men who feel this way

If there isn't yet there will be eventually.

I want you to do better. But this is a trap of your own design and it feeds itself. Get out of the echo chamber.

and do what? have nothing left with my life? Get arrested for assault when someone pisses me off when I'm already mad because of being unable to vent? Fucker this is my only escape.

It’s Dan Harmon! He made Rick and Morty! I’m sure you hate it now because something something virtue signaling but he’s smart as fuck, I think we’re all in agreement on that

Hardly know anything about him and never seen Rick and Morty. I also have very different views on what problems are.

If he agrees to you having a side piece its because hes had his eye on one also.

No, it's because he's a fuck and desperate.

I'm sure for some it is, but thats just sad, and reeks of soyboy. For many others open relations goes both ways.

In most of the poly relationships I've seen it's only one with multiple partners, usually a woman who has a woman of her own as well, so that's two women stolen from the dating market.

My roommate and wife did the poly thing for a time, and both had a few one night stands during. I know what you describe exists, but I cant imagine a man being ok with his girl being poly while he isn't. She wouldnt respect someone who allows that long enough to stay I would think.

Most women just want a fucking harem of dudes and other women all kissing metaphorically their feet hoping just a slight touch from her. that is the kind of shit women fantasize about, they are bisexual polygamous whores.

We need Sharia so degenerates like this can be legally stoned

This person is never getting any fan mail.

Fucking degeracy, this shit should be allowed to be published it encourages women to be sluts I'd say this kind of shit is justifable to consider as treason and working against the country.,

Chill out dude.

Yeah man this is just a shit article

It's hard to calm down knowing this is going to be acceptable and fucking pushed on me if I got into a relationship.

Don't worry. It probably won't.

I assume you mean because I won't get into a relationship in the first place or because most girls aren't like that? I beg to differ on the second point, most women want tons of different men and they want multiple men providing for them. In a couple years it will be looked down on for not letting your girlfriend cheat on you and will just be the kind of thing that is assumed you are okay with, soon instead of women asking if the guy is okay with her having another guy it will have to be men specifying that they don't want a polygamous girl or one who has casual sex on the side and you are going to be a bigot for that. Imagine how fucked up it will be when you are persecuted because you don't want your girlfriend sampling 31 flavors of cock per week

Nah. Your whole rant is ridiculous.

Just you wait...

Yeah, this whole thing is ridiculous. Woman here. This isn’t a thing.

Also, men sleep around all the time and aren’t sluts. Women aren’t sluts if they want to, either. One can do with one’s body what one pleases.

That said, this still isn’t a thing.

No, women shouldn't be able to have sex on demand it's fucked up. For men it's hard to find a woman so we need to take any chance we get, it isn't like that for women.

Yeesh. Whatever, dude. That’s some fucked up logic.

Yeah, I have been trying to explain to this dude that, yes, rape is bad across several threads.

I need a hobby.

I think he is the one that needs a (better, more legal, less traumatizing) hobby. Cripes.

How so?

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Nice job getting baited by a trash article?

Love how you think I was baited.

Yeah cause it's true

Call it a gut feeling, but I think this girl got her heart broken by a man she considers attractive and wrote this article out of bitterness.

Upon looking at her photo, I'm now 100% sure of it. Grow up.

It's just some fat nigger's article, don't let it bother you.

The Blackpillgospel is so right. You need to not only read but listen to groups of women to learn what they want. Take it from experience.

Here we go. Referring to my past statements to use as your entire argument. Isn't he the smartest person around? Oh my God guys...

how the fuck does somebody have -100 total comment karma without straight up trolling lol

Apparently I'm the only adult here. You can stop commenting now.

36 minutes later and no response. That's what I thought, bitch

The problem is, you're reading about the wrong kind of women. Stupid gossip magazines (? I dunno if it's called a magazine if it's online) like that do not reflect MOST women's views. If you think that they do, 1. you're dumb, and 2. you're seriously wasting your time.

See, I think that's silly. The point of the counter-culture is not fitting in with the mainstream culture. There is not not fitting in with the counter-culture; we're the misfits. It's great. I mean whatever, obviously it's not for everyone, but I feel like if some Incels started listening to punk or metal and going to shows and moshing and stuff, it would probably feel great. AND I've met many friends and a few boyfriends at concerts. You get out, you do something fun, you meet people. Ya know?

I dunno what we were talking about before, but I remember I told you about how I met my boyfriend (worked at a hotel together if that rings a bell).

Well, maybe I am just a fucking dinosaur who's set in her ways, and all my friends are too, but apart from the media I don't see any people in real life going for this stuff. That's all. Sure, maybe the media will manage to push some people into non-monogamous relationships, but by no means does that mean it will become the norm.

Can you prove all women are malicious chad-followers? No.

r/misanthropy

This SHOULD be censored, this is the kind of thing that NEEDS to be censored it turns women into even bigger whores than they already are and tell them it's okay they should be getting told that they deserve to be stoned for it.

I couldn't even if I wanted to, I'm pretty sure they have sensible immigration laws that don't allow anyone in. Would be nice if western countries had laws like that...

No point to start a conversation from.