A mail order bride made a conscious transaction to be my wife in exchange for financial gain. She is my property and has to make sure ALL of my needs are met.
You can't own another human being in the United States of America. The pure objectification of women is enough to prevent you from ever connecting with them, regardless of being short and ugly.
No, it is not legal ownership, it is an understanding that they are to be with you and meet certain expectations or they will be deported. It isn't slavery or objectification on my part they objectify themselves to get into the states or other first world countries.
I wouldn't depend on being able to stay in the country as the main driving force behind putting up with your bullshit. 99% would rather go home than get abused.
Their treatment was probably worse than any "abuse" I'd give them, I'd be loving but they wouldn't understand that and think I'm just seeig them as objects.
Nice job assuming I have a sex doll, too bad you're wrong because I'd only really want one if the whole thing felt realistic and wouldn't even primarily using it for sexual stimulation, I'd want to use it as a cuddle buddy and imagine what it would be like if she was a real woman.
So honestly yes, I would love her like my hypothetical real doll but would recognize she has free will and emotions.
Personality is genuinely a factor, though. I was fat and broke and living in my mom's house when I met my wife and she's stuck around for five years now - she swears it's because I make her laugh nonstop.
personality is nowhere near as much of a factor as looks
I won't argue with that, but personality is still a factor, and I genuinely believe it can help to somewhat make up for not-so-great looks.
I know my case is probably a very unique one. She's way out of my league. But if a fat broke guy can get an awesome girl that looks like my wife, then surely a fat broke guy can get a fat broke girl fairly easily.
But if personality isn't as big of a factor as I think it is, then my sense of humor shouldn't matter, right?
And saying places like this wouldn't exist is proof that you're right is like saying the number of gangstalking videos on youtube proves that those people aren't nuts. I'm not saying y'all are nuts, but it's a similar perspective - a group of like minded people supports each other and confirms each others' convictions when the vast majority of people see it from a different perspective.
But if personality isn't as big of a factor as I think it is, then my sense of humor shouldn't matter, right?
It doesn't for the vast majority of men.
And saying places like this wouldn't exist is proof that you're right is like saying
You realize there are tons of studies that back up blackpill thought, right? Places like this popped up as a reaction to modern dating culture. Then the studies started coming out and what do you know, we were right all along.
Is there a study in particular you're referring to? I'm not necessarily challenging your claim, I'm genuinely curious.
Maybe you're right, maybe women are inherently shallow. And if there's a study that quantifies that, then I can't really argue with it.
But I do disagree with how y'all react to it. I would argue that if, say, half of women are shallow, shitty people, then those aren't the women you want, anyway. There's no point in being bitter towards them. They probably gravitate toward shallow, shitty men. Let them get together and have their shallow, shitty relationships and be miserable and unfaithful to each other. But y'all have to understand that, in that case, you're after women who are a much higher caliber intellectually and emotionally, and you've gotta meet them on their level. They're not below us and they're not better than us, but it's fair for them to expect a partner that rivals them in some way.
Why are all of you guys so obsessed with suicide? Suicidal tendencies is a huge red flag and a turn off to nearly all women. Who wants to get with a guy who's first thought it to off himself when things get hard?
Are you trying to be this dumb or are you actually? You can't magically snap your fingers and get free friends and relationships. Even joining clubs, meetups etc. has NO return if you're a low value man. You have no empathy; incapable of stepping in another's shoes.
What is a low value man to you? And I do have sympathy and empathy, I just chose to give them out to the people that are in bad places because of unfortunate events rather than crybabies on the internet.
A lot of us probably have solitary confinement above as a preference to how our lives actually turn out once we get fired are unable to find a job and end up having to live on the streets unable to ever recover because you don't even know anyone who would let you use their shower just for a job interview let alone anyone who would actually let us take up space in their yard with a broken down car to live in.
Fucking lel. Yeah because we go round broadcasting that shit to everyone. There is so much talk about it because this is one of the few places guys can speak openly about it.
Not that magical, nor completely accurate. But people feeling crappy, insecure, down or angry have that generally reflected in their overall behavior which is reasonably recognizable.
Yeah, and that's why good believable actors are a dime a dozen.
Oh wait. They're not.
Most of the time you'll skate by since people don't really pay attention to each other, aren't going to bother to say anything because they figure it's none of their business, or just think that's who you are. But it effects your social interactions way more negatively then you probably realize.
If you're not retarded, you'll realized whether your behavior is shit in social interactions. Why not try self reflection? You're not incel until you've tried everything.
But whenever Chad is hitting or raping them suddenly its "Oh but he was so nice". Bitch please. Magical radar all of a sudden doesn't work with Chads eh?
If Ryan Gosling was suicidal and standing on the edge of the Golden Gate Bridge, roasties looking to save his life might accidentally push him off the bridge as they storm it to be the one to save his life
I didn't say it wasn't, just that in attractive people it's something to be saved from, in unattractive people it's something to be ignored until it eats up the person and they rope.
This is really a grey area to me. The biggest help for curing depression is the person being ready to change, after that point a relationship (whether romantic or even platonic) can potentially help that person get back to normal again. If they aren't ready to change it drags both people lower.
When you're having a bad day, this is absolutely true.
If you're suffering from chronic depression like quite a few of the people here, it's not going to help much. In fact it's going to be hugely damaging to your partner over time.
This is entirely accurate. Chronic depression is something that needs to be managed with a mental health professional. I'd also say that a lot of people here need to see one before trying to pursue a relationship. After all, finding a relationship doesn't mean much if you aren't in a state to maintain it.
That's not my experience. But it always pays to find a therapist you have a good report with and not just settle for somebody you don't feel comfortable with.
pretty sure if your depression is brought about due to loneliness/lack of romance then getting friends or a girlfriend will cure that depression. that's why people make friends and look for partners, so they don't get lonely and depressed.
did you even think about the garbage you typed for 5 seconds?
You get sad and depressed and then begin looking for a new partner?
Or do you think no one here should focus on getting a girlfriend because they might break up and get depressed again in the future? if that's your logic then what's the point of doing anything at all if you might fail?
lmao holy shit. all roasties have retard level IQ.
Or do you think no one here should focus on getting a girlfriend because they might break up and get depressed again in the future?
The fact that you think I’m saying that and are also calling me the retard is funny. Of course I’m not saying that. I’m saying what I said, that relying on someone else to cure your depression isn’t an actual cure. It doesn’t mean to never pursue relationships. It means you also need to fix your shit on a deeper level so that you don’t get depressed when alone.
I’m not saying that. I’m saying what I said, that relying on someone else to cure your depression isn’t an actual cure.
And I'm saying you're a fucking retard because you're wrong, you fucking retard. Depression due to isolation is probably the most common form of depression in humanity. It's why keeping ties with family, making and keeping friends and eventually finding a partner is so important. Because humans are wired to be social.
Do you understand how fucking retarded you sound now you stupid fucking retard? do you not understand that not every depression is due to some deep clinical pathology, you fucking retard?
let me know if you're getting all of this, you fucking retard.
Why are you turning this into being about social circles in general? Clearly the picture is about only a romantic partner and clearly I said someone in response to it. I didn’t ever talk about friends or family. You brought that up just to change the subject and act all incredulous.
If you are depressed solely because you don’t have a romantic partner, there are deeper problems with you.
Because a romantic partner IS part of your social circles you stupid cunt.
If you are depressed solely because you don’t have a romantic partner, there are deeper problems with you.
No, you stupid cunt. I'm pretty sure people who break up and get depressed don't have deeper problems and are depressed because their partner left them. To cure this feeling they go and find a new partner, you stupid fucking cunt.
Because a romantic partner IS part of your social circles you stupid cunt.
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I'm pretty sure people who break up and get depressed don't have deeper problems and are depressed because their partner left them.
Grief is not the same as depression. If you grieve a breakup you’re normal. If you’re depressed from a breakup then you absolutely do have deeper problems.
Nah, that's just you trying to pigeonhole depression into a box that fits your wrong and retarded argument. Castrate yourself please. Your retard level IQ genes must not be passed on at any cost.
You lost the argument so hard you had to go on trying to redefine depression. Next time think a little before you make a post and you won't get embarrassed like I just did to you.
Well considering how many "actual" diagnoses from therapists and psychiatrists there are about depression that meds don't fix I'm going to go out on a limb and say the widely accepted definition has changed and its being thrown around like candy.
After I broke up with my last ex, the last thing I wanted to do was to be in another relationship so no, relationship doesn’t magically cure depression.
And how do you know why you are actually depressed? You might have no friends and no girl, and be miserable. But cause is not effect, you might well still be depressed in a relationship (which will pretty effectively doom it)
Don't worry, I've been told that I just need a better outlook on life and that would cure my pain and make me lose weight and get a high paying job and a girlfriend! And people tell me that with a straight face...
You do realize that "normies" are not a hive mind? I didn't draw that comic, so I take no responsibility for it's content. A girlfriend won't cure your anti-social tendencies and depression.
Curing your antisocial tendencies and depression would go a long way towards getting you a girlfriend, though.
It's weird what kind of autistic mentality IT inculcates in us.
Last week I was discussing the statement "Sometimes I need an angel to get out of despair" with a psychiatrist in a bible study group (and in that context "angel"="helpful human being") and I was all like "That's bullshit, you should cultivate within yourself the resources to do that" while she insisted that "You know, it's ok to depend on others, it really is" 😲
I had loads of helpful human beings that made me a better person, that helped me with my social anxiety, that helped me tackle my depression. And I had loads of those for a very, very long time.
None of them where a girlfriend.
Now having a girlfriend and wife after I had a decent handle on those certainly helped me further develop. But the helpful people helped me build the foundation that I could actually have a relationship like that first.
Then your first priority should be to find a support network, maybe family members, maybe people you know, maybe therapy, group or one on one. It's not easy. I know.
Exactly! You need to stop feeling lonely on your own! Being around other people or having a girlfriend won't make you stop being lonely! A mentally healthy person can be stuck in solitary confinement for years and not feel lonely for a second!
How the fuck do you misinterpret a comic you fucking anti-social retard?
It's a comic showing he had a bad day and she made him feel better.
It's NOT a comic showing "wah I'm so fucking depressed and moody why can't I get a gf!!???!!?? ;____;" and then she magically shows up and makes his life great. You're just absolutely clueless.
My experience has mostly been with the ones who pop up on various forums and social media platforms to call people faggots, cucks, betas and retards for not thinking "kek" or "reeeeeeee" was a debate-winning argument.
Your interpretation is STILL a reason to be upset about one's inceldom. Who will make our days better? Nobody. You see, understanding inceldom requires empathy. Maybe try it out? But I know you won't.
"You don't need anyone to not be lonely, you just need therapy to not be lonely, never mind that you almost never have a chance to interact with people."
Relationship won't cure a depression. Depression is a sickness and needs medical treatment. I've had crippling depression all my life and when I got into a relationship it didn't change shit
You're retarded. Humans require warmth touch and affection. If someone feels bottomlessly lonely, empty, alone.... An intimate relationship can really turn their life around completely, in the way that no acquaintance, reading, hobbies, self-help, or friendships ever could. Being held by a girl and having her tell you she likes you, finds you attractive, enjoys spending time with you could turn your whole life around. Kill yourself lmfao.
If that doesn't resonate with you, you're one of the retarded fucks who is "depressed" for no reason all their lives, the 2-3% mental morons who actually have a hormone imbalance.
That's why people who have literally everything still kill themselves because they are depressive. Depression doesn't need a fucking reason like cancer doesn't need one. But arguing with you has no point, since you are a little child. You know absolutely NOTHING about pain, because someone who knows real pain wouldn't write such horseshit and wish pain to others.
By the way, if you want to sell others that they are "retarded" and "dumb as fuck" you shouldn't use phrases like "kill yourself faggot" or "gtfo. It makes you look dumb. And all those "hahahahaha" makes you look like a rage kiddy in Call of Duty
lmfao the reason you are depressed is probably because your face is ugly as fuck and also your girlfriend is already cheating on you because you're a sensitive ass little beta bitch lmfaooooo at getting so mad for her lying about drinking lmfaoooooooo she drinks smokes weed and sits on my dick every weekend little faggot
True friendship can be exactly like partnership, except for sex. There are people who prefer their friends over their boyfriends and girlfriends even if they like their relationship. It isn't universal that you have to be closest to someone you have sex with, it can be as well your grandfather or best friend.
Normies are the ones diagnosing us with depression half the time! When we say depression here we are referring to the "fake" kind of just years and years of constant sadness, no motivation for anything, losing connection with the few people we know and not really enjoying anything anymore due to shitty circumstances. Not the literal medical version of depression.
I hate that normies don't understand that partnership can "fix" some things wrong with you. They just keep reverting back to the common old line of "A GF WON'T CURE YOU'RE DEPRESSION MAGICALLY". It's so fucking dumb it hurts.
Everyone has problems, if you don't deal with them they'll just sour or ruin what could have been a good relationship. Can a relationship help, of course, but even normies ruin great relationships by not sorting their shit out before putting it on someone else. How does this thought process work?
Let's add another person to my miserable life, someone who also has doubts, insecurities and problems of their own so they can make your problems disappear?
Stop perpetuating this fucking retarded myth to these kids that only near-perfectly functioning humans enter into relationships. It's horse shit and you fucking know it. Stop lying through your teeth.
Let's add another person to my miserable life, someone who also has doubts, insecurities and problems of their own so they can make your problems disappear?
Jesus christ. I now understand what separates an incelqueer from the rest of reddit who don't spend their every waking hour here and on IT — you guys have no capacity for empathy whatsoever and are likely in very toxic relationships.
Pretty much spot on. It's common sense if just think about how dumb IT's common talking points are. It's why I sometimes am so hesitant to reply. I know other cels have more stomach for argument than I do sometimes and leave it to them.
But yeah, It is common knowledge that partnership with others can help alleviate if not push you to change faults inherent to your personality. It won't be a magical cure all (no cel says this or thinks this), but it can help. To deny the positive affect on peoples personalities that a relation can bring is so fucking dumb it gives me headaches.
You're 35 and you can't read what you're replying to? That's sad. No one said you have to be perfect to be in a relationship. You guys take an inch and make it a mile faster than a 13 year old girl ever could. Calm. Down. And. Read.
Paedo? Lol. I have a daughter. That's why this place scares and fascinates me so. Also why I know how much they tend to exaggerate.. And I was a teenage girl once, so there's that too.
Your brain doesn't work right if that's where you automatically go
That's even worse, but it's also pathetic. You have a daughter and you have the time to spend bullying incels on reddit? What the fuck is up with your priorities? More still, being a parent makes one incredibly time poor and the time you have not parenting you decide to use here? Jesus Christ. You need real hobbies. Perhaps look at taking up an instrument. I've been playing guitar for 20 years. Look into it.
You're like the cream of the crop of pathetic. You must make everyone in your life feel better because of what a worthless person you are. So good job I guess?
Bro just use the food theory. a bro that has a shitload of food will tell the starving man "bro its just food, no big deal"... but to the starving man with no food... its a pretty big fuking deal.
Bro no one is saying it's not a big deal. It's a huge deal. Point is though, people in relationships STILL HAVE PROBLEMS. STILL HAVE DEPRESSION. STILL HAVE BILLS TO PAY. Y'all act like it's a magic bullet that solves everything and it's just not.
nobodys saying its a magic bullet to solve all of someones issues. but humans are social creatures and obviously a guy would be doing better if he had a caring girlfriend since his teenage years, instead of having no female contact. do you understand? being in a relationship, especially during formative years will improve drive, motivation, passion, and also help in all social aspects.
its kinda similar to putting someone in solitary confinement for a long time they end up having issues, dont be ignorant and think if that person wasnt in solitary he would still get those issues? no, its from the solitary confinement. same thing.
the point is that they'll have a reason for doing all the inconvenient things in life, whats the point in striving to succeed if at the end of the day - the whole purpose of life (sex) is denied to you :2
This is another normie idea that is also incredibly fucking dumb and annoying. Just because someone may not have first hand experience with something, doesn't eliminate the value of their viewpoints. Normies like you say this as an easy cop out to stop conversation because "we just don't know". I fucking heavily advise you to stop doing this online and probably in real life. people can "think" about things and notice things they themselves do not have first hand experience of. Attack they're points not their identity relative to the point they made. Especially if you want to have an honest discussion of ideas.
Lmfao. What an analogy to this place. You start out by calling me "incredibly fucking dumb and annoying" and then you can't imagine why I have no desire to chat with you
Someone with hundreds of thousands in dept and not a penny to their name understands what being poor is like more than a billionaire. Someone starving knows the value of food more than someone with who has always had a ready meal. Someone who had sex too fucking young won't understand what it's like to be desperate to the point where you are lashing out at animals and children and animals for the smallest things because you are so desperate for a relationship that you struggle to control yourself.
It’s really an accurate representation. Pretty spot on. Source: I am a “normie” and this has happened with me.
But the problem is that you break through this shell and feel FULFILLED. that’s the key word, it’s about fulfillment. What a relationship does is makes you feel fulfilled, when nothing in your life has really changed.
Having this relationship however, may inspire you to change your trajectory. So that you can aim towards personal fulfillment, rather than this fake, physical form that is portrayed in the comic.
So what I’m saying is that for me, a relationship has helped me fully internalize what I just said.
That’s why I don’t think they are all that important, at least in this stage of my life (I’m only 21).
Your life won't suddenly change, but you'll gain the incencitive to. Most people can't obtain this incencitive on their own. You can't will yourself into a different mindset. A relationship is absolutely REQUIRED to change your mental circumstance, ignoring the exceptions.
This is why terms like muse and inspiration exist to describe another's partner. They attribute to their success and positive outcomes to their partner's presence and influence.
I don't expect it to cure anything. At this point, it's just some hypothetical experience that I think it would be nice to have, like traveling to Europe. I know I can live without it, but I'd have a richer life for having had the experience. That's how I feel most days, at least.
Yeah, more conflicting advice: Getting into a relationships won't cure your depression, versus, You need to get into circulation, and then you'll feel better about your life.
If a socially awkward guy stumbles across that critical first girlfriend early in life who wants to put out for him, that will work wonders for his personal development. Either the experience will improve his social skills, or else his social inadequacies won't matter as much.
But it doesn't work in reverse. If you're healthy and able bodied, but women in general aren't attracted to you in your given state, it's not at all obvious or self-evident that any kind of self-improvement or personal development will change how women react to you.
You must be referring to the hole in your mom's heart the moment she realized her son spends most of his time insulting random women online on a hateful forum
I don't think I could over-exaggerate the number of times I've seen some sob depression story by some girl that has crazy bi-polar disorder or bulimia or something and talking about how she attempted to end it all multiple times that somewhere in the middle has 'i met my boyfriend who helped me through it all'
It can, but what us "normies" mean is that you shouldnt expect it to happen that way. Its not guaranteed to work that way for everybody, but probably for the majority of incels since being left out of friendship and love is the root of your misery. Dont give up guys, i dont wanna see people using the rope, thats just sad.
The idea is that if you have lots of issues, you might end up using the other person as a crutch. You shouldn't do that because it puts a lot of strain on the relationship. If it works then good stuff...bro
Doubt It, I doubt it more and more because every time someone posts a picture they are totally fine looking. Even if before they say someone mogs them or they are subhuman whatever, they always turn out to be fine looking.
you cant judge males by the male standard of attractiveness - as a male you can objectively say: "well he isnt bad looking"
but thats only because you're not subjected to the same instinctual attraction to certain traits that signal high genetic fitness. in other words, a man who is rated as a "5" by the male standard of rating other males would likely be rated as a "1-2" by the female standard.
you dont know what makes a male "totally fine looking", what you're actually doing is stating what you HOPE a passes as "totally fine looking" because the implication is if they're not as attractive as you rate them, then objectively you're lowering your own rating as well.
And which do you think we fall into... We don't have any reason to think its an emotional void because it doesn't need to be filled, it just needs to be something done once.
we just want to know what a relationship or sex is like, and we have no reason to believe that it's some void. Is there anything you would really want to do sometime in your life? Do you consider that to be a void in your life?
You get bitter about things like that especially when you constantly see people taking them for granted, we are like a starving homeless man looking in someones house hoping they throw the food away rather than put it through the garbage disposal
It's a good deal for slavery at least, slaves that worked the plantations would have killed for a life like what I'd provide for a woman and it isn't like they wouldn't have rights or laws protecting them.
Well considering I'm a politically left leaning feminist lesbian, I highly doubt it. We have absolutely nothing in common aside from the fact that we both like vagina lmfao
Nah, that's just you trying to pigeonhole depression into a box that fits your wrong and retarded argument. Castrate yourself please. Your retard level IQ genes must not be passed on at any cost.
Fucking lel. Yeah because we go round broadcasting that shit to everyone. There is so much talk about it because this is one of the few places guys can speak openly about it.
I had loads of helpful human beings that made me a better person, that helped me with my social anxiety, that helped me tackle my depression. And I had loads of those for a very, very long time.
None of them where a girlfriend.
Now having a girlfriend and wife after I had a decent handle on those certainly helped me further develop. But the helpful people helped me build the foundation that I could actually have a relationship like that first.
If Ryan Gosling was suicidal and standing on the edge of the Golden Gate Bridge, roasties looking to save his life might accidentally push him off the bridge as they storm it to be the one to save his life
Bro no one is saying it's not a big deal. It's a huge deal. Point is though, people in relationships STILL HAVE PROBLEMS. STILL HAVE DEPRESSION. STILL HAVE BILLS TO PAY. Y'all act like it's a magic bullet that solves everything and it's just not.
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1 IncelistanWillRise 2018-03-29
I'm fucking done with women. I'm traveling to Asia to get a mail order bride asap.
Otherwise it's fucking ogre for me.
1 niceoleader 2018-03-29
Owning a woman is much better than begging them to go out with you. Mail order brides are our ticket out of inceldom.
1 Board_Gaming 2018-03-29
"Mail order brides" are not slaves, you don't "own" them.
1 niceoleader 2018-03-29
A mail order bride made a conscious transaction to be my wife in exchange for financial gain. She is my property and has to make sure ALL of my needs are met.
1 Board_Gaming 2018-03-29
Humans are not property.
1 niceoleader 2018-03-29
You are if you willingly sell yourself as a mail order bride.
1 Foxcat420 2018-03-29
That is not how mail order brides work you fucking moron.
1 niceoleader 2018-03-29
it is how they work and your just a retard xD
1 oohitsvoo 2018-03-29
You like the word “retard” a lot don’t you?
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-03-29
No... They are selling themselves, they will get a citizenship behind your back and divorce rape you though.
1 Foxcat420 2018-03-29
You can't own another human being in the United States of America. The pure objectification of women is enough to prevent you from ever connecting with them, regardless of being short and ugly.
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-03-29
No, it is not legal ownership, it is an understanding that they are to be with you and meet certain expectations or they will be deported. It isn't slavery or objectification on my part they objectify themselves to get into the states or other first world countries.
1 Foxcat420 2018-03-29
I wouldn't depend on being able to stay in the country as the main driving force behind putting up with your bullshit. 99% would rather go home than get abused.
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-03-29
Their treatment was probably worse than any "abuse" I'd give them, I'd be loving but they wouldn't understand that and think I'm just seeig them as objects.
1 Foxcat420 2018-03-29
"Loving" in the same way you love your real doll or computer you mean?
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-03-29
Nice job assuming I have a sex doll, too bad you're wrong because I'd only really want one if the whole thing felt realistic and wouldn't even primarily using it for sexual stimulation, I'd want to use it as a cuddle buddy and imagine what it would be like if she was a real woman.
So honestly yes, I would love her like my hypothetical real doll but would recognize she has free will and emotions.
1 MrTomDawson 2018-03-29
Solid advice. If someone's in a bad mood, be really fucking annoying, that'll sort it out.
1 oohitsvoo 2018-03-29
What advice? There’s literally no words in this comic
1 MrTomDawson 2018-03-29
...i cannot even tell if you're being serious...
1 niceoleader 2018-03-29
they only say that so you'll stop calling women mean things.
they know it's bullshit, just like all the advice they give about "personality" and now even "watch movies bro" is all bullshit.
normies hate it when incels expose the truth
1 Foxcat420 2018-03-29
Hates women, is also obsessed/fixated on women 24/7.
1 niceoleader 2018-03-29
Women are shallow whores. It is our duty to spread the blackpill as far and as widely as possible.
1 SuperPerfect_Cel 2018-03-29
yeah, if i cant have it, no one should
1 SerialEL 2018-03-29
have what?
1 peese-of-cawffee 2018-03-29
Personality is genuinely a factor, though. I was fat and broke and living in my mom's house when I met my wife and she's stuck around for five years now - she swears it's because I make her laugh nonstop.
1 niceoleader 2018-03-29
personality is nowhere near as much of a factor as looks are. your case doesn't disprove the studies have shown this.
1 peese-of-cawffee 2018-03-29
1 niceoleader 2018-03-29
No, not surely. If it was surely then places like this wouldn't exist. Also not everyone is naturally funny.
1 peese-of-cawffee 2018-03-29
But if personality isn't as big of a factor as I think it is, then my sense of humor shouldn't matter, right?
And saying places like this wouldn't exist is proof that you're right is like saying the number of gangstalking videos on youtube proves that those people aren't nuts. I'm not saying y'all are nuts, but it's a similar perspective - a group of like minded people supports each other and confirms each others' convictions when the vast majority of people see it from a different perspective.
1 niceoleader 2018-03-29
It doesn't for the vast majority of men.
You realize there are tons of studies that back up blackpill thought, right? Places like this popped up as a reaction to modern dating culture. Then the studies started coming out and what do you know, we were right all along.
1 peese-of-cawffee 2018-03-29
Is there a study in particular you're referring to? I'm not necessarily challenging your claim, I'm genuinely curious.
Maybe you're right, maybe women are inherently shallow. And if there's a study that quantifies that, then I can't really argue with it.
But I do disagree with how y'all react to it. I would argue that if, say, half of women are shallow, shitty people, then those aren't the women you want, anyway. There's no point in being bitter towards them. They probably gravitate toward shallow, shitty men. Let them get together and have their shallow, shitty relationships and be miserable and unfaithful to each other. But y'all have to understand that, in that case, you're after women who are a much higher caliber intellectually and emotionally, and you've gotta meet them on their level. They're not below us and they're not better than us, but it's fair for them to expect a partner that rivals them in some way.
1 uselessfuck1 2018-03-29
Fuck that guy probably watches so many movies with female protagonists.
1 IncelSlayerZero 2018-03-29
I love this, the incelqueers just keep on giving, don't they?
1 iamcopeless 2018-03-29
and talked to his abusive mom a lot
1 IncelSlayerZero 2018-03-29
He must have talked to his mom to learn about wymyn. He seems to have a caring womyn in his life. Hobbies probably helped, too.
1 AT0MIC_ACE_PUGG 2018-03-29
He watched movies with stronk independent women
1 gstvtrp 2018-03-29
He probably watched Alien.
1 IncelSlayerZero 2018-03-29
I heard he cosplayed as padme.
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-03-29
I mean I guess that is one way to possibly have a caring woman in your life... Y'know, if your mom is enough to fill the gap of a girlfriend.
1 FEDORA_GOD 2018-03-29
put a bullet in my fucking head
1 reallyuglyasianguy 2018-03-29
Dew it kys
1 Foxcat420 2018-03-29
Why are all of you guys so obsessed with suicide? Suicidal tendencies is a huge red flag and a turn off to nearly all women. Who wants to get with a guy who's first thought it to off himself when things get hard?
1 Uglytrash4322 2018-03-29
Bcuz we r sad frien 😢😢😢
1 Foxcat420 2018-03-29
Just remember as no matter how bat it seems, nothing is worse than death, and people hate death.
1 Uglytrash4322 2018-03-29
Dead is okey. No mor sad 🙂
1 justforlulzandkeks 2018-03-29
Epic norman platitudes
1 bigantennaemay1 2018-03-29
There are plenty of worse things than death, like living a life of forced solitude, for one.
No, it's because they fear it.
1 oohitsvoo 2018-03-29
Forced solitude? Are you writing this from prison?
1 Broad_Gaming 2018-03-29
You know what he meant, stop trying to be a smartass. Forced solitude is simply a high possibility for low value men.
1 oohitsvoo 2018-03-29
Except no one is forcing that solitude on you but yourself?
1 Broad_Gaming 2018-03-29
Are you trying to be this dumb or are you actually? You can't magically snap your fingers and get free friends and relationships. Even joining clubs, meetups etc. has NO return if you're a low value man. You have no empathy; incapable of stepping in another's shoes.
1 oohitsvoo 2018-03-29
What is a low value man to you? And I do have sympathy and empathy, I just chose to give them out to the people that are in bad places because of unfortunate events rather than crybabies on the internet.
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-03-29
Our situations are bad because of unfortunate events you dumb cunt.
1 Lolidom 2018-03-29
Veru low iq post.
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-03-29
A lot of us probably have solitary confinement above as a preference to how our lives actually turn out once we get fired are unable to find a job and end up having to live on the streets unable to ever recover because you don't even know anyone who would let you use their shower just for a job interview let alone anyone who would actually let us take up space in their yard with a broken down car to live in.
1 SignorSolitudine 2018-03-29
There are lots of things worse than death, that’s why people in places kind enough to let them do so would choose assisted suicide over suffering
1 Foxcat420 2018-03-29
Not getting pussy doesn't qualify as extreme suffering, do you pass out every time you get a paper cut too?
1 Incel_Executioner 2018-03-29
How do women tell you're suicidal? Do they have a magic radar?
1 commander_zoidberg 2018-03-29
Fucking lel. Yeah because we go round broadcasting that shit to everyone. There is so much talk about it because this is one of the few places guys can speak openly about it.
1 Ishouldbepolite 2018-03-29
Even if you don't verbalize it, the general demeanor is recognizable or even worse, mistaken for worse behavioral problems.
And honestly I think people here are far more upfront about it in real life then they realize too.
1 Broad_Gaming 2018-03-29
Ahh, the magical radar. It compels people to immediately suspect someone wanting to commit suicide.
1 Ishouldbepolite 2018-03-29
Not that magical, nor completely accurate. But people feeling crappy, insecure, down or angry have that generally reflected in their overall behavior which is reasonably recognizable.
1 Broad_Gaming 2018-03-29
It's very easy to control your presentation, actually. You'd have to be autistic if you couldn't.
1 Ishouldbepolite 2018-03-29
Yeah, and that's why good believable actors are a dime a dozen.
Oh wait. They're not.
Most of the time you'll skate by since people don't really pay attention to each other, aren't going to bother to say anything because they figure it's none of their business, or just think that's who you are. But it effects your social interactions way more negatively then you probably realize.
1 Broad_Gaming 2018-03-29
If you're not retarded, you'll realized whether your behavior is shit in social interactions. Why not try self reflection? You're not incel until you've tried everything.
1 commander_zoidberg 2018-03-29
But whenever Chad is hitting or raping them suddenly its "Oh but he was so nice". Bitch please. Magical radar all of a sudden doesn't work with Chads eh?
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-03-29
Their magic radar doesn't work for abusers or rapists full stop, they have it calibrated to detect ugly dudes.
1 FEDORA_GOD 2018-03-29
Me personally, I walk around with a noose around my neck and a t-shirt that reads "FUCKING KILL ME" when I'm out in public.
1 SignorSolitudine 2018-03-29
Turn offs for people they’re not attracted
If Ryan Gosling was suicidal and standing on the edge of the Golden Gate Bridge, roasties looking to save his life might accidentally push him off the bridge as they storm it to be the one to save his life
1 Foxcat420 2018-03-29
This is pure fantasy, being suicidal is a negative personality trait no matter which way you slice it.
1 SignorSolitudine 2018-03-29
I didn't say it wasn't, just that in attractive people it's something to be saved from, in unattractive people it's something to be ignored until it eats up the person and they rope.
1 Foxcat420 2018-03-29
It doesnt matter what they look like, no one wants to invest time into someone that is trying to throw it away.
1 mindmonkey00 2018-03-29
As a former incel, this is actually completely true.
1 NeedinStitches 2018-03-29
This is really a grey area to me. The biggest help for curing depression is the person being ready to change, after that point a relationship (whether romantic or even platonic) can potentially help that person get back to normal again. If they aren't ready to change it drags both people lower.
1 Ishouldbepolite 2018-03-29
When you're having a bad day, this is absolutely true.
If you're suffering from chronic depression like quite a few of the people here, it's not going to help much. In fact it's going to be hugely damaging to your partner over time.
1 SerialEL 2018-03-29
hahahah u are funny.
1 ChloeKittyMtF 2018-03-29
This is entirely accurate. Chronic depression is something that needs to be managed with a mental health professional. I'd also say that a lot of people here need to see one before trying to pursue a relationship. After all, finding a relationship doesn't mean much if you aren't in a state to maintain it.
1 behindcloseddoors1 2018-03-29
COPE.
1 Ishouldbepolite 2018-03-29
Or get clinical help. I know I did. Took a long time, but over time it worked.
1 behindcloseddoors1 2018-03-29
Therapists don't want you to get better, if they actually helped people they would lose all their clients.
1 Ishouldbepolite 2018-03-29
That's not my experience. But it always pays to find a therapist you have a good report with and not just settle for somebody you don't feel comfortable with.
1 mindmonkey00 2018-03-29
Or they would be seen as highly credible and attract more clients.
1 Sniveling_Cur 2018-03-29
Which is less than zero, so don't even bother next time.
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-03-29
Ehh, the rest was worth something because IT can't argue it.
1 Lolidom 2018-03-29
You were never incel, dumbass.
1 gufestus2 2018-03-29
Yeah. Probably not happening to me ever. No girl cares about me.
1 peese-of-cawffee 2018-03-29
Do you care about a girl?
1 gufestus2 2018-03-29
I care about a lot of girls.
1 boredyeah 2018-03-29
Ahh so thats a shit comic
1 ReeseWithoutaspoon 2018-03-29
Relying on someone else to make your depression go away may work for a while, but it’s not a solution.
1 niceoleader 2018-03-29
pretty sure if your depression is brought about due to loneliness/lack of romance then getting friends or a girlfriend will cure that depression. that's why people make friends and look for partners, so they don't get lonely and depressed.
did you even think about the garbage you typed for 5 seconds?
1 ReeseWithoutaspoon 2018-03-29
And what do you think happens when a breakup happens?
1 niceoleader 2018-03-29
You get sad and depressed and then begin looking for a new partner?
Or do you think no one here should focus on getting a girlfriend because they might break up and get depressed again in the future? if that's your logic then what's the point of doing anything at all if you might fail?
lmao holy shit. all roasties have retard level IQ.
1 ReeseWithoutaspoon 2018-03-29
The fact that you think I’m saying that and are also calling me the retard is funny. Of course I’m not saying that. I’m saying what I said, that relying on someone else to cure your depression isn’t an actual cure. It doesn’t mean to never pursue relationships. It means you also need to fix your shit on a deeper level so that you don’t get depressed when alone.
1 niceoleader 2018-03-29
And I'm saying you're a fucking retard because you're wrong, you fucking retard. Depression due to isolation is probably the most common form of depression in humanity. It's why keeping ties with family, making and keeping friends and eventually finding a partner is so important. Because humans are wired to be social.
Do you understand how fucking retarded you sound now you stupid fucking retard? do you not understand that not every depression is due to some deep clinical pathology, you fucking retard?
let me know if you're getting all of this, you fucking retard.
1 ReeseWithoutaspoon 2018-03-29
Why are you turning this into being about social circles in general? Clearly the picture is about only a romantic partner and clearly I said someone in response to it. I didn’t ever talk about friends or family. You brought that up just to change the subject and act all incredulous.
If you are depressed solely because you don’t have a romantic partner, there are deeper problems with you.
1 niceoleader 2018-03-29
Because a romantic partner IS part of your social circles you stupid cunt.
No, you stupid cunt. I'm pretty sure people who break up and get depressed don't have deeper problems and are depressed because their partner left them. To cure this feeling they go and find a new partner, you stupid fucking cunt.
1 ReeseWithoutaspoon 2018-03-29
Grief is not the same as depression. If you grieve a breakup you’re normal. If you’re depressed from a breakup then you absolutely do have deeper problems.
1 niceoleader 2018-03-29
Nah, that's just you trying to pigeonhole depression into a box that fits your wrong and retarded argument. Castrate yourself please. Your retard level IQ genes must not be passed on at any cost.
1 ReeseWithoutaspoon 2018-03-29
It’s fine that you don’t understand what depression is. A lot of people use it as an umbrella term for feeling bad, so your mistake is understandable.
1 niceoleader 2018-03-29
You lost the argument so hard you had to go on trying to redefine depression. Next time think a little before you make a post and you won't get embarrassed like I just did to you.
1 ReeseWithoutaspoon 2018-03-29
Haha yeah I “redefined” it to the commonly accepted psychological definition that is used pretty much universally.
You sure schooled me. I now realize that depression is just a fancy word for feeling bummed out.
1 niceoleader 2018-03-29
Being pedantic is always the last attempt of those who just got BTFO. :)
Try again cuck
1 ReeseWithoutaspoon 2018-03-29
1 niceoleader 2018-03-29
Yes, you were very wrong my dear cuck. Glad your downie cuck brain finally realized it xD
1 ReeseWithoutaspoon 2018-03-29
Oh dang, now you’re pulling out “I know you are but what am I?”
I really was BTFO by this unbelievable wit!
1 niceoleader 2018-03-29
sperging out like this won't save you from losing the argument xD
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-03-29
Well considering how many "actual" diagnoses from therapists and psychiatrists there are about depression that meds don't fix I'm going to go out on a limb and say the widely accepted definition has changed and its being thrown around like candy.
1 lpo33 2018-03-29
Not sure why you're getting so angry over this. Being sad over a breakup is normal, full-blown depression is definitely not.
You're either wrong here or just using a very broad definition for depression.
1 ReeseWithoutaspoon 2018-03-29
They just don’t know what depression means and think anyone using the word properly is being pedantic.
1 oohitsvoo 2018-03-29
After I broke up with my last ex, the last thing I wanted to do was to be in another relationship so no, relationship doesn’t magically cure depression.
1 niceoleader 2018-03-29
go away dumb normie
1 SerialEL 2018-03-29
so? people feel sad, like for a week or two after a break up. not for fucking years
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-03-29
You at least have half your bucket list crossed off.
1 celem83 2018-03-29
And how do you know why you are actually depressed? You might have no friends and no girl, and be miserable. But cause is not effect, you might well still be depressed in a relationship (which will pretty effectively doom it)
1 niceoleader 2018-03-29
xDDDD
normies are so out of excuses they're literally just typing nonsense
1 celem83 2018-03-29
out of the loop, being a tourist to this sub. Care to define 'Normie' in the context of this sub?
1 celem83 2018-03-29
misc downvotes and no reply. Well, i've had some time to skim the frontpage, so I was able to cobble together a definition. This is a toxic pit.
moving on
1 35yoGeneticTrash 2018-03-29
No one gives a shit. No, wait, some do give a shit like you incel queer losers who spend your free time here.
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-03-29
Don't worry, I've been told that I just need a better outlook on life and that would cure my pain and make me lose weight and get a high paying job and a girlfriend! And people tell me that with a straight face...
1 commander_zoidberg 2018-03-29
Not a solution for clinical depression but could help some of those here suffering from situational depression.
1 chadbhava 2018-03-29
Which countrys currency is that color?
1 blaze_fh 2018-03-29
Underrated comment.
1 Build_that_Bear 2018-03-29
You do realize that "normies" are not a hive mind? I didn't draw that comic, so I take no responsibility for it's content. A girlfriend won't cure your anti-social tendencies and depression.
Curing your antisocial tendencies and depression would go a long way towards getting you a girlfriend, though.
1 bigantennaemay1 2018-03-29
Ftfy. You normies and your constant mixing up of cause and effect crack me up.
1 Build_that_Bear 2018-03-29
Nah, then you'd just be an antisocial, anxious, suspicious, controlling boyfriend who'd very quickly find himself single again.
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-03-29
And that would still be better than nothing.
1 niceoleader 2018-03-29
Stop projecting
1 hyperconstruct 2018-03-29
Please learn the proper usage of antisocial.
1 IphisTelethousas 2018-03-29
It's weird what kind of autistic mentality IT inculcates in us.
Last week I was discussing the statement "Sometimes I need an angel to get out of despair" with a psychiatrist in a bible study group (and in that context "angel"="helpful human being") and I was all like "That's bullshit, you should cultivate within yourself the resources to do that" while she insisted that "You know, it's ok to depend on others, it really is" 😲
1 Ishouldbepolite 2018-03-29
I had loads of helpful human beings that made me a better person, that helped me with my social anxiety, that helped me tackle my depression. And I had loads of those for a very, very long time.
None of them where a girlfriend.
Now having a girlfriend and wife after I had a decent handle on those certainly helped me further develop. But the helpful people helped me build the foundation that I could actually have a relationship like that first.
1 SerialEL 2018-03-29
well, i have no one to support me.
1 Ishouldbepolite 2018-03-29
Then your first priority should be to find a support network, maybe family members, maybe people you know, maybe therapy, group or one on one. It's not easy. I know.
1 TordYvel 2018-03-29
I thought we agreed that this is just a case of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manic_Pixie_Dream_Girl
1 Sniveling_Cur 2018-03-29
huh? But he's not LOVING HIMSELF, so how come someone else is loving him?
:psyduck:
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-03-29
Exactly! You need to stop feeling lonely on your own! Being around other people or having a girlfriend won't make you stop being lonely! A mentally healthy person can be stuck in solitary confinement for years and not feel lonely for a second!
1 THE_GYMTIMIDATOR 2018-03-29
How the fuck do you misinterpret a comic you fucking anti-social retard?
It's a comic showing he had a bad day and she made him feel better.
It's NOT a comic showing "wah I'm so fucking depressed and moody why can't I get a gf!!???!!?? ;____;" and then she magically shows up and makes his life great. You're just absolutely clueless.
1 uselessfuck1 2018-03-29
Dude, chill out. Relax and watch some movies with strong female leads.
1 methaferus 2018-03-29
Eww no thanks
1 uselessfuck1 2018-03-29
dis is y u r incel teehee
1 methaferus 2018-03-29
Why does everyone assume that I'm incel just because I reply to threads on r/braincels
1 uselessfuck1 2018-03-29
It's a joke dude. Didn't matter if you were incel or not.
1 niceoleader 2018-03-29
this fucking cuck posts on /r/The_Donald lmao
1 MortalSisyphus 2018-03-29
lol omg someone disagrees with you holy shit
1 Cristalline144hz 2018-03-29
Alt right / TD is retarded.
1 MortalSisyphus 2018-03-29
The average alt-righter would destroy you in debate. At least they don't use "retarded" as an argument.
2 Cristalline144hz 2018-03-29
lmao
the average alt-righter is a retard.
1 WhyNotLayDownAndRot 2018-03-29
L O G I C A L
F A L L A C Y
1 MrTomDawson 2018-03-29
...you and I have clearly met some very different alt-righters...
1 MortalSisyphus 2018-03-29
Yeah I only moderated /r/altright and /r/DebateAltRight but I'm sure your experience with the alt-right is more extensive than mine.
1 MrTomDawson 2018-03-29
My experience has mostly been with the ones who pop up on various forums and social media platforms to call people faggots, cucks, betas and retards for not thinking "kek" or "reeeeeeee" was a debate-winning argument.
1 BICHIAMUP 2018-03-29
If you count "refugees and south africa REEEEEEEEEEEEEE" as a good argument, then sure.
1 autistcel123 2018-03-29
lol white people getting cucked by chad immigrants
alt-right is cope
1 THE_GYMTIMIDATOR 2018-03-29
Holy shit, imagine being so insecure that instead of attacking the argument, you aim at someone's political affiliation.
Low-T manchildren on suicide watch!
1 concentratecamp 2018-03-29
Might post on TD but that doesn't change that he's right about this.
1 AjitPaiFan 2018-03-29
For future reference, this is called a "distinction without a difference"
1 THE_GYMTIMIDATOR 2018-03-29
Ajit Pai is my waifu.
1 Broad_Gaming 2018-03-29
Your interpretation is STILL a reason to be upset about one's inceldom. Who will make our days better? Nobody. You see, understanding inceldom requires empathy. Maybe try it out? But I know you won't.
1 THE_GYMTIMIDATOR 2018-03-29
YOU will make your days better, you self-defeating pussy.
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-03-29
"You don't need anyone to not be lonely, you just need therapy to not be lonely, never mind that you almost never have a chance to interact with people."
1 Broad_Gaming 2018-03-29
Yeah, emotions are a choice. Maslow's hierarchy is a meme too. Thanks man.
1 THE_GYMTIMIDATOR 2018-03-29
"Wah I'm sad all the time. What do I do?"
"Find something to make yourself feel better with? A hobby other than the internet and complaining?"
"WTF MAN THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE"
1 Broad_Gaming 2018-03-29
I already have those you absolute retard
1 THE_GYMTIMIDATOR 2018-03-29
Wow nice aggression for no reason, my dude.
Could it be that you have some pent up sexual frustration?
1 rippedrichrespectful 2018-03-29
OUT
1 THE_GYMTIMIDATOR 2018-03-29
lol
1 SerialEL 2018-03-29
so you are denying it ever happening?
1 ValuePrestige 2018-03-29
Relationship won't cure a depression. Depression is a sickness and needs medical treatment. I've had crippling depression all my life and when I got into a relationship it didn't change shit
1 iQ9k 2018-03-29
Most depression is circumstantial and not genetic.
1 ItWillBeOverSoonLol 2018-03-29
You're retarded. Humans require warmth touch and affection. If someone feels bottomlessly lonely, empty, alone.... An intimate relationship can really turn their life around completely, in the way that no acquaintance, reading, hobbies, self-help, or friendships ever could. Being held by a girl and having her tell you she likes you, finds you attractive, enjoys spending time with you could turn your whole life around. Kill yourself lmfao.
1 ValuePrestige 2018-03-29
That's wrong and incorrect on so many levels it hurts.
1 ItWillBeOverSoonLol 2018-03-29
If that doesn't resonate with you, you're one of the retarded fucks who is "depressed" for no reason all their lives, the 2-3% mental morons who actually have a hormone imbalance.
1 ValuePrestige 2018-03-29
That's why people who have literally everything still kill themselves because they are depressive. Depression doesn't need a fucking reason like cancer doesn't need one. But arguing with you has no point, since you are a little child. You know absolutely NOTHING about pain, because someone who knows real pain wouldn't write such horseshit and wish pain to others.
By the way, if you want to sell others that they are "retarded" and "dumb as fuck" you shouldn't use phrases like "kill yourself faggot" or "gtfo. It makes you look dumb. And all those "hahahahaha" makes you look like a rage kiddy in Call of Duty
1 ItWillBeOverSoonLol 2018-03-29
lmfao the reason you are depressed is probably because your face is ugly as fuck and also your girlfriend is already cheating on you because you're a sensitive ass little beta bitch lmfaooooo at getting so mad for her lying about drinking lmfaoooooooo she drinks smokes weed and sits on my dick every weekend little faggot
1 ValuePrestige 2018-03-29
If she sits on your dick, how are you incel?
Stop trying to insult others, it doesn't work and makes you look stupid. And women can smell that shit.
1 randomnightly 2018-03-29
True friendship can be exactly like partnership, except for sex. There are people who prefer their friends over their boyfriends and girlfriends even if they like their relationship. It isn't universal that you have to be closest to someone you have sex with, it can be as well your grandfather or best friend.
1 SerialEL 2018-03-29
''true friendship'' well, i never experienced that.
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-03-29
Who said we were depressed? we just can't get a relationship and it pisses us off.
1 ValuePrestige 2018-03-29
I am talking about the title, not every incel in general
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-03-29
Normies are the ones diagnosing us with depression half the time! When we say depression here we are referring to the "fake" kind of just years and years of constant sadness, no motivation for anything, losing connection with the few people we know and not really enjoying anything anymore due to shitty circumstances. Not the literal medical version of depression.
1 ValuePrestige 2018-03-29
Ah, that makes sense. Thanks for explaining and being reasonable instead of telling me to gtfo and kill myself
1 CMXV 2018-03-29
I hate that normies don't understand that partnership can "fix" some things wrong with you. They just keep reverting back to the common old line of "A GF WON'T CURE YOU'RE DEPRESSION MAGICALLY". It's so fucking dumb it hurts.
1 concentratecamp 2018-03-29
Everyone has problems, if you don't deal with them they'll just sour or ruin what could have been a good relationship. Can a relationship help, of course, but even normies ruin great relationships by not sorting their shit out before putting it on someone else. How does this thought process work?
Let's add another person to my miserable life, someone who also has doubts, insecurities and problems of their own so they can make your problems disappear?
1 35yoGeneticTrash 2018-03-29
Stop perpetuating this fucking retarded myth to these kids that only near-perfectly functioning humans enter into relationships. It's horse shit and you fucking know it. Stop lying through your teeth.
Jesus christ. I now understand what separates an incelqueer from the rest of reddit who don't spend their every waking hour here and on IT — you guys have no capacity for empathy whatsoever and are likely in very toxic relationships.
1 CMXV 2018-03-29
Pretty much spot on. It's common sense if just think about how dumb IT's common talking points are. It's why I sometimes am so hesitant to reply. I know other cels have more stomach for argument than I do sometimes and leave it to them.
But yeah, It is common knowledge that partnership with others can help alleviate if not push you to change faults inherent to your personality. It won't be a magical cure all (no cel says this or thinks this), but it can help. To deny the positive affect on peoples personalities that a relation can bring is so fucking dumb it gives me headaches.
1 TinyFluffyMagda 2018-03-29
You're 35 and you can't read what you're replying to? That's sad. No one said you have to be perfect to be in a relationship. You guys take an inch and make it a mile faster than a 13 year old girl ever could. Calm. Down. And. Read.
1 35yoGeneticTrash 2018-03-29
Speaking from experience, are we, paedo? Doesn't surprise me. Most feminists are sexual deviants.
1 TinyFluffyMagda 2018-03-29
Paedo? Lol. I have a daughter. That's why this place scares and fascinates me so. Also why I know how much they tend to exaggerate.. And I was a teenage girl once, so there's that too.
Your brain doesn't work right if that's where you automatically go
1 35yoGeneticTrash 2018-03-29
That's even worse, but it's also pathetic. You have a daughter and you have the time to spend bullying incels on reddit? What the fuck is up with your priorities? More still, being a parent makes one incredibly time poor and the time you have not parenting you decide to use here? Jesus Christ. You need real hobbies. Perhaps look at taking up an instrument. I've been playing guitar for 20 years. Look into it.
1 concentratecamp 2018-03-29
You're like the cream of the crop of pathetic. You must make everyone in your life feel better because of what a worthless person you are. So good job I guess?
1 TinyFluffyMagda 2018-03-29
So, you think that people who have partners don't understand the value of having a partner? And yet you do? That's a head scratcher
1 rippedrichrespectful 2018-03-29
OUT
1 tropical_cockonut 2018-03-29
Normies are really getting out of control. Maybe that’s because of having a vagina as a mod
1 TinyFluffyMagda 2018-03-29
Lol you guys are like the Lil Rascals
1 NotASIMP 2018-03-29
Bro just use the food theory. a bro that has a shitload of food will tell the starving man "bro its just food, no big deal"... but to the starving man with no food... its a pretty big fuking deal.
1 TinyFluffyMagda 2018-03-29
Bro no one is saying it's not a big deal. It's a huge deal. Point is though, people in relationships STILL HAVE PROBLEMS. STILL HAVE DEPRESSION. STILL HAVE BILLS TO PAY. Y'all act like it's a magic bullet that solves everything and it's just not.
1 NotASIMP 2018-03-29
nobodys saying its a magic bullet to solve all of someones issues. but humans are social creatures and obviously a guy would be doing better if he had a caring girlfriend since his teenage years, instead of having no female contact. do you understand? being in a relationship, especially during formative years will improve drive, motivation, passion, and also help in all social aspects.
its kinda similar to putting someone in solitary confinement for a long time they end up having issues, dont be ignorant and think if that person wasnt in solitary he would still get those issues? no, its from the solitary confinement. same thing.
1 TinyFluffyMagda 2018-03-29
We are exactly where we put ourselves.
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-03-29
People in relationships don't have the fact that they haven't been in a relationship ever gnawing at them constantly all the time.
1 TinyFluffyMagda 2018-03-29
We all have our own neuroses. I can't say that we all share the same ones, but you're not special for having baggage
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-03-29
I wouldn't even say it's baggage and I'm not saying it makes me special, I'm saying it's something that takes such a small action to fix but it won't
1 deadmedium 2018-03-29
the point is that they'll have a reason for doing all the inconvenient things in life, whats the point in striving to succeed if at the end of the day - the whole purpose of life (sex) is denied to you :2
1 CMXV 2018-03-29
This is another normie idea that is also incredibly fucking dumb and annoying. Just because someone may not have first hand experience with something, doesn't eliminate the value of their viewpoints. Normies like you say this as an easy cop out to stop conversation because "we just don't know". I fucking heavily advise you to stop doing this online and probably in real life. people can "think" about things and notice things they themselves do not have first hand experience of. Attack they're points not their identity relative to the point they made. Especially if you want to have an honest discussion of ideas.
1 TinyFluffyMagda 2018-03-29
Lmfao. What an analogy to this place. You start out by calling me "incredibly fucking dumb and annoying" and then you can't imagine why I have no desire to chat with you
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-03-29
Someone with hundreds of thousands in dept and not a penny to their name understands what being poor is like more than a billionaire. Someone starving knows the value of food more than someone with who has always had a ready meal. Someone who had sex too fucking young won't understand what it's like to be desperate to the point where you are lashing out at animals and children and animals for the smallest things because you are so desperate for a relationship that you struggle to control yourself.
1 onceagainwerehere 2018-03-29
It’s really an accurate representation. Pretty spot on. Source: I am a “normie” and this has happened with me.
But the problem is that you break through this shell and feel FULFILLED. that’s the key word, it’s about fulfillment. What a relationship does is makes you feel fulfilled, when nothing in your life has really changed.
Having this relationship however, may inspire you to change your trajectory. So that you can aim towards personal fulfillment, rather than this fake, physical form that is portrayed in the comic.
So what I’m saying is that for me, a relationship has helped me fully internalize what I just said.
That’s why I don’t think they are all that important, at least in this stage of my life (I’m only 21).
1 Broad_Gaming 2018-03-29
You're correct.
Your life won't suddenly change, but you'll gain the incencitive to. Most people can't obtain this incencitive on their own. You can't will yourself into a different mindset. A relationship is absolutely REQUIRED to change your mental circumstance, ignoring the exceptions.
1 35yoGeneticTrash 2018-03-29
This is why terms like muse and inspiration exist to describe another's partner. They attribute to their success and positive outcomes to their partner's presence and influence.
1 Mest666 2018-03-29
As wise man once said, if you are a loser and you get a femoid, you will be loser and femoid owner
1 Virion85 2018-03-29
I don't expect it to cure anything. At this point, it's just some hypothetical experience that I think it would be nice to have, like traveling to Europe. I know I can live without it, but I'd have a richer life for having had the experience. That's how I feel most days, at least.
1 advancedatheist 2018-03-29
Yeah, more conflicting advice: Getting into a relationships won't cure your depression, versus, You need to get into circulation, and then you'll feel better about your life.
If a socially awkward guy stumbles across that critical first girlfriend early in life who wants to put out for him, that will work wonders for his personal development. Either the experience will improve his social skills, or else his social inadequacies won't matter as much.
But it doesn't work in reverse. If you're healthy and able bodied, but women in general aren't attracted to you in your given state, it's not at all obvious or self-evident that any kind of self-improvement or personal development will change how women react to you.
1 glassangelrose 2018-03-29
"Put out for him"
With that attitude, no wonder no girl wants to sleep with you, Jesus
1 advancedatheist 2018-03-29
I'm just talking the way guys talk.
1 glassangelrose 2018-03-29
Well, maybe don't talk like that, it's off putting
1 deadmedium 2018-03-29
your gaping hole is off putting :2
1 glassangelrose 2018-03-29
You must be referring to the hole in your mom's heart the moment she realized her son spends most of his time insulting random women online on a hateful forum
1 deadmedium 2018-03-29
boo-hoo you cant invoke an emotional argument without shoe-horning a woman into it.
that says it all doesnt it :2
1 glassangelrose 2018-03-29
What's with the weird :2
1 deadmedium 2018-03-29
its merely a grin :2
1 behindcloseddoors1 2018-03-29
I guarantee every man you've ever slept with has talked like that
1 glassangelrose 2018-03-29
I haven't slept with any men
1 IncelEngineer 2018-03-29
I don't think I could over-exaggerate the number of times I've seen some sob depression story by some girl that has crazy bi-polar disorder or bulimia or something and talking about how she attempted to end it all multiple times that somewhere in the middle has 'i met my boyfriend who helped me through it all'
1 glassangelrose 2018-03-29
Doesn't mean that they had a good relationship.
1 alec7491 2018-03-29
Like it's heard to even see myself as eligible for another persons affection. Should someone who is a complete mess try and even date anyway.
1 KV-n 2018-03-29
yeah metoo. thats why i didnt ever even asked any girl out. It would be outrageous to expect a girl be attracted to the royal fuck up that is me.
1 SirNoto 2018-03-29
You are putting all people who dont fall under your way of thinking as a normie. Stop that.
1 ThunderstormRTB 2018-03-29
It can, but what us "normies" mean is that you shouldnt expect it to happen that way. Its not guaranteed to work that way for everybody, but probably for the majority of incels since being left out of friendship and love is the root of your misery. Dont give up guys, i dont wanna see people using the rope, thats just sad.
1 LordDarthra 2018-03-29
The idea is that if you have lots of issues, you might end up using the other person as a crutch. You shouldn't do that because it puts a lot of strain on the relationship. If it works then good stuff...bro
1 deadmedium 2018-03-29
you're assuming incels have a lot of issues - that isnt the case -_-
its merely an issue of "attractiveness"
1 LordDarthra 2018-03-29
Doubt It, I doubt it more and more because every time someone posts a picture they are totally fine looking. Even if before they say someone mogs them or they are subhuman whatever, they always turn out to be fine looking.
1 deadmedium 2018-03-29
you cant judge males by the male standard of attractiveness - as a male you can objectively say: "well he isnt bad looking"
but thats only because you're not subjected to the same instinctual attraction to certain traits that signal high genetic fitness. in other words, a man who is rated as a "5" by the male standard of rating other males would likely be rated as a "1-2" by the female standard.
you dont know what makes a male "totally fine looking", what you're actually doing is stating what you HOPE a passes as "totally fine looking" because the implication is if they're not as attractive as you rate them, then objectively you're lowering your own rating as well.
its wishful thinking. :2
1 LordDarthra 2018-03-29
Oh, are you a woman?
1 glassangelrose 2018-03-29
Using someone else to fill the emotional void is called a codependent relationship and they suck, take from someone who has been in one.
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-03-29
There is a difference between having an emotional void and just wanting to know what I relationship is like.
1 glassangelrose 2018-03-29
True
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-03-29
And which do you think we fall into... We don't have any reason to think its an emotional void because it doesn't need to be filled, it just needs to be something done once.
1 glassangelrose 2018-03-29
???
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-03-29
we just want to know what a relationship or sex is like, and we have no reason to believe that it's some void. Is there anything you would really want to do sometime in your life? Do you consider that to be a void in your life?
1 glassangelrose 2018-03-29
No, I understand that. I just don't understand all the hate.
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-03-29
You get bitter about things like that especially when you constantly see people taking them for granted, we are like a starving homeless man looking in someones house hoping they throw the food away rather than put it through the garbage disposal
1 glassangelrose 2018-03-29
But in this case you want people to donate their loved female relatives to sex slavery?
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-03-29
Not sex slavery, into a forced relationship it wouldn't just be sex, they would have household duties and would receive non-sexual affection as well.
1 glassangelrose 2018-03-29
That is literal slavery
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-03-29
It's a good deal for slavery at least, slaves that worked the plantations would have killed for a life like what I'd provide for a woman and it isn't like they wouldn't have rights or laws protecting them.
1 glassangelrose 2018-03-29
Why should anyone be enslaved at all?
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-03-29
It's the lesser of two evils, the slaves would have better lives than they would if they lived in freedom and it would keep people content.
1 glassangelrose 2018-03-29
I'm pretty content now, not enslaved
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-03-29
You don't know how good your life would be if you were mine though, I can assure you it would be better.
1 glassangelrose 2018-03-29
Well considering I'm a politically left leaning feminist lesbian, I highly doubt it. We have absolutely nothing in common aside from the fact that we both like vagina lmfao
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-03-29
That's a bonding point! see we already have more in common than I usually have with women!
1 glassangelrose 2018-03-29
Well, with your views, I'm not surprised lol
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-03-29
Women don't know what they need, they need guys like me to keep them in line, you don't know what you are missing by not being with me.
1 glassangelrose 2018-03-29
You have to be a troll
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-03-29
I'm dead serious.
1 mindmonkey00 2018-03-29
It's not the same thing if the reason for the void stems from a lack of companionship.
1 behindcloseddoors1 2018-03-29
Cope, 2 people wanting each other is the best feeling in the world
1 glassangelrose 2018-03-29
??? I never said that having a romantic partner isn't fulfilling
1 Uglytrash4322 2018-03-29
Bcuz we r sad frien 😢😢😢
1 Incel_Executioner 2018-03-29
How do women tell you're suicidal? Do they have a magic radar?
1 niceoleader 2018-03-29
Nah, that's just you trying to pigeonhole depression into a box that fits your wrong and retarded argument. Castrate yourself please. Your retard level IQ genes must not be passed on at any cost.
1 gufestus2 2018-03-29
I care about a lot of girls.
1 commander_zoidberg 2018-03-29
Fucking lel. Yeah because we go round broadcasting that shit to everyone. There is so much talk about it because this is one of the few places guys can speak openly about it.
1 Ishouldbepolite 2018-03-29
I had loads of helpful human beings that made me a better person, that helped me with my social anxiety, that helped me tackle my depression. And I had loads of those for a very, very long time.
None of them where a girlfriend.
Now having a girlfriend and wife after I had a decent handle on those certainly helped me further develop. But the helpful people helped me build the foundation that I could actually have a relationship like that first.
1 FEDORA_GOD 2018-03-29
Me personally, I walk around with a noose around my neck and a t-shirt that reads "FUCKING KILL ME" when I'm out in public.
1 SignorSolitudine 2018-03-29
Turn offs for people they’re not attracted
If Ryan Gosling was suicidal and standing on the edge of the Golden Gate Bridge, roasties looking to save his life might accidentally push him off the bridge as they storm it to be the one to save his life
1 TinyFluffyMagda 2018-03-29
Bro no one is saying it's not a big deal. It's a huge deal. Point is though, people in relationships STILL HAVE PROBLEMS. STILL HAVE DEPRESSION. STILL HAVE BILLS TO PAY. Y'all act like it's a magic bullet that solves everything and it's just not.
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-03-29
And that would still be better than nothing.
1 niceoleader 2018-03-29
Stop projecting