Thats why women are stupid and i dont respect them. I just wanna have sex with them

That's why they don't want to have sex with you.

Show me your genitals

At least they're getting something. We can't even get that.

It's not like you could get it even if you wanted it. You're coping.

Totally true. LTRs are for beta bux, and casual sex is for alpha fux

This bro. That’s why it’s over. Even if you can get into LTRs once you can see the world for what it is it’s really over. Immediately one day everything makes sense. All the guys who had “game” were just Chads, your friend who’s always left “beta orbiting” is ugly AF, it’s just too brutal, it’s goig on under everyone’s nose. If everyone was blackpilled it would be OGRE.

Getting into LTR's with women is easy for any man, no matter how ugly. Just present yourself as a non-threatening cuck who'll talk feelings with her, buy her shit and watch The Notebook. Just as long as you leave your self-respect at the door, you'll have no problem getting pity-sex.

So all of that, "if you want to get into a relationship you need to be an asshole and apathetic etc. stuff that i hear in here and in TRP", is bullshit right?

I used to wonder if i was a lesbian or somesuch. Thank you all for enlightening me.

Cope.

You say this is like you're often there to witness it

She's just having PTSD from her previous abusive relationship that was still the best sex she ever had which is why it's so conflicting, poor girl

What if I told you most men are bad at sex, including "chads"?

Lol how many ways can you have sex that is bad?

"Like oh my god when he eats me out his tongue is like all over my clit like hes so bad!" "Like OH MY GOD when he fucks me missionary like all he does is put his penis in and out like HES SO BAD!" "Like seriously can't you just be good at sex like ya know turn me on! Like oh my god seriously!"

Tfw you think guys are actually licking the clit and not just wiping their tongue around the vag and calling it a day. And missionary is one of those positions I was saying that doesn't actually reach anything. If you want to be rubbing against the g-spot, try cowgirl or the man standing at the edge of the bed.

These guys are going to be very disappointed if they ever do get the chance to have sex. They are going to think the fact that they suck at everything is the girl's fault for not liking them enough.

You say these things like they are true

Good god you have no sex ed.

33% of women struggle to orgasm in general. 80% of women can't orgasm from just vaginal sex because most all positions don't really touch anything for them.

You don't need endurance to know where the clit or g-spot is.

I'm trying to explain how if you know female anatomy, you know how to make her orgasm. Most of the vagina has little to no feeling. It also is at about a 45 degree tilt towards her navel. The g-spot is about 2-3 inches in and towards the front (huh, maybe size doesn't matter)? Girls orgasm easier from getting fingered because the penis will basically never touch the clit and you can obviously control your hand way easier to get the g-spot.

The only thing that would give size an upperhand is it has a higher chance of actually rubbing against the very small part of the vagina that has nerves. But yeah, knowing where stuff is instantly negates this. That girl who is saying "keep going" is probably faking it. You'd know a girl actually had an orgasm if something like a flushed face with heat flash/sweat came out of nowhere. Not her screaming like a porn star.

'Hi, I've never had sexual contact with a woman, don't really like them and don't have a vagina, quit your female nonsense and let me tell you how your body works.' /s

Wow, how fucking far gone are you normcucks? I'm amazed someone actually believes this trash.

And guys not believing this is why I've never had an orgasm before

Your problem, female orgasms don't matter for reproduction so who gives a fuck if you don't cum from anyone but Chad, fuck off our sub

What a faggot

The g-spot is about 2-3 inches in and towards the front (huh, maybe size doesn't matter)? Girls orgasm easier from getting fingered because the penis will basically never touch the clit and you can obviously control your hand way easier to get the g-spot.

Yet girls still prefer dicks that are around 6” in size with good girth.

Btw I know your alt account which you deleted a few days ago. Let’s just say I’d be careful interacting with this roastie.

Girls prefer average dicks. Not crazy big not crazy small. It makes sense when you think about. The average girl prefers the average dick. One of the main reasons women don’t want incels is your obvious mental illness. It’s easy to pick up on if someone is a little off. Its instinctual. Natural selection if you will. I recommend therapy for all of you. The pictures you post are for the most part not ugly men. You look fine you just have awful social skills and no self esteem. These are things that you can work through and improve and achieve a normal happy life one day.

Thanks for the laugh, honey. :)

Fine then. Remain stagnant until the depression eats your soul and you kill yourself. I don’t care honestly.

Nobody asked you to care.

Handsome guy is into it. He puts his dick in. He thrusts his hips. Chick goes "keep going", he keeps going - she cums.

Again, no. Biology. She might enjoy it anyway, but she's not going to cum.

Sex is not difficult or advanced. It is a natural drive that even braindead cavepeople excelled at.

Says the guy who has never had sex. How would you know?

+1

female intelligence on display here. take notes, incels. she's smarter than all of us combined

Hello,

This is not true. It's not as black and white as this. Please keep an open mind and heart. I'm doing my best to do the same.

Best, Louis

If most of the men you were having sex with were bad at sex... I hate to break it to you but you are the one that sucks in bed

Roastie roasts roastie. LUL.

tonguetwistercels.

huge cope

Good looking man = good at sex

Ugly man = bad at sex

Those ratings are highly subjective. Chads get declared ‚good at sex‘ regardless if they’re good at sex.

Not true at all

Will you have sex with me since you are willing to help?

Brutally pill

Vantablack Pill

I want to be a starfish. They have such an easy life.

truth.

Only chad understands what it is like to have a woman be enthusiastic over him.

If that’s true, I’m a chad. I’m not a chad, so that must not be true.

Women have been enthusiastic over you?

r/absolutelynotmeirl

Same.

This sub is right about a lot of things, and I can relate with a lot of what the younger men here are going through, but the entire premise of only Chad getting laid is redicously autistic. Same with the claims of only face being important. I have known some downright ugly mother fuckers who pull incredibly hot women (one was a pro football cheerleader; literal 10/10 top tier perfection). Of course he had prison cred, tattoos before hipsters had them, and would do any drug on the table.

In a given year 80% of women have sex while only 60% of men do.

I noticed you decided to leave out some info.

in the 20-24 year old age group, approximately 63% of men and 80% of women had vaginal intercourse.

Obviously, this is the group that supports the "incel" mentality the most, so you overgeneralized that ratio as ALL men and women.

If you look at the age groups younger than that, it's a 53:62% ratio for 18/19 year olds, and 30:30% for 16/17 year olds.

If you look at the older age groups, its an 86:87% ratio for men:women from 25-29 years old and 85:74% ratios for men:women from 30-39 years old.

I know I'm in the incel subreddit so I'll get told to fuck off real quick, but my guess is the ratio at a younger age is more even because everyone is sexually young and in a lot of ways awkward and inexperienced. It levels the playing field a bit among genders.

As everyone matures sexually, men have a significantly higher sex drive generally, so they are far more motivated to find sex than women. That means women have far more guys trying to have sex with them than vice versa. At age 20-24, women have realized the higher demand for sex with them, so they are more confident and have the luxury of being more picky. They are more likely to go for guys who have something that stands out to them which, unfortunately for "incels", typically means a guys who might be more attractive, OR have other personality traits that make them stand out to them among a see of men desperately yet low effortly seeking a sex partner. That is life.

Some men decide to improve themselves in ways they can. No, that does not mean growing a few inches, changing your face, or race. That means working hard in one way or another that will set them apart from the sea of basic low-effort men who give up upon rejection. As men mature, they start to give less fucks, which ends up turning into confidence. Giving less fucks makes men stop stressing and obsessing over why they can't get laid or why other men have it "easier" because they're taller, better looking, have bigger dicks (because for some reason incels think women reject men when they do their non-existant pre-sex penile evaluation).

Giving less fucks means men give less fucks about others and realize most of life is about looking out for themselves and do what will make themselves happy and how to get the most out of life. This turns into passion for hobbies, sports, career, academics, anything, which improves their outlook on life, their confidence, and in some cases, their physique, mental sharpness, or social skills. Unfortunately, a lot of men don't realize that until they get to their late 20s.

Yes, men have to work hard. No, it's not fair that the demand for sex with women is higher than the demand for sex with men. No, it's not fair that that guy over there is 6'4 or this guy is a male model or the other one has a 10/10 girlfriend. Too many guys are too busy being upset that they don't have a model girlfriend or that they have to deal with rejection. Too many guys want everything to be easy "like that guy has it".

They fail to see how many rejections it takes sometimes to find someone who makes you happy. Often time it's an unfair amount. But it sure beats giving in to the incel culture you see here. Hell, anything beats circlejerking about how happy "Chads" don't deserve happiness and women are scum. Rejoin society. Keep fighting. Fight every damn day against the path of dying an incel.

Source: Incel most of my life.

I’ve always contended that getting laid after college but before the age of 25 was hardest for men and these stats back it up. They also give credence to the fact that men peak in their late 20’s or early 30’s.

I totally agree. I just wanted to dispute the other guy's incorrect over-generalization and rounding of the data for the sake of supporting his point.

Blaming it on face, height, race, women, etc is ridiculous, as is complaining that they might get a "used" woman when they're older. A lot are trying to play the victim role of not winning the genetic lottery and therefore not having women flock to them, while they don't realize how plenty of average guys do end up getting girls, but because they didn't let all the rejection get to them.

It's a childish mentality thinking that rejection in some way throughout adulthood isn't a regular part of life, as is sitting around pouting about it. If they're on here promoting suicide culture, there are obviously other aspects of their life they can be working on (or seeing a therapist about), or they are focusing way too much on their sex life (or lack-thereof) if it is really taking that much of a toll on their quality of life.

Why are all these fucking statistics "how many had sex at least once in a year"? The deadest of bedrooms can have sex once or twice a year, I want to know how many times a week or month and compare it to the average ideal amount for each gender.

but the entire premise of only Chad getting laid is ridiculously autistic.

Exactly! It’s one thing to say that it’s easier for women to get laid than men, but they go nuts with that idea. Someone even replied to me as if what I said originally was /r/thathappened material and not something that’s relatively normal.

Most likely, no women has been enthusiastic about you.

Cope

Other way around bud

Not too sure about that. You’re coping with the cognitive dissonance.

You have spent the past few days trying to slum it in a shitty niche subreddit to feel better about yourself bud. Thats the definition of cope. Unluje you I have come to terms with my fate.

I don’t think “to feel better about yourself” is accurate, but I understand why you believe that.

Dude we have seen your story a million times lol. 4/10 normie who has gotten a few drunken lays gets exposed to incel/PSL ideology and is at first "flabbergasted" at what is being said. Then he moves on to ironyfagging and sarcasm to cope with the fact that hes sub 5 and he will never live the life of a good looking man. You're trying to fight off the blackpill but it never works lmao. Nature doesnt lie.

I’m not flabbergasted at all and I recognize the importance of looks though. Ironyfagging seems like an accurate description

It sometimes happen with Chadlites/upper tier normies too, though temporarily and only by certain foids.

F-F-F-FITALITY PILL

Preach.

You've never known a woman other than your mom have you?

Yup just like you

Known plenty.

Best incel response is to accuse the same thing and then eventually throw out the terms "blue pill, cuck, beta..."

But let's be objective here. Explain to me how you are qualified to make this argument and where you learned it. Also tell me about your experience with adult relationships both platonic and romantic. I want to make sure I'm actually getting the full picture.

Most people here know women in some capacity, although not as romantic partners. Moreover, many of us happen to have Chad/Chad-lite/normie friends, considering that men don't factor in looks when making friendships. So your premise isn't even true.

But basically this your point is invalid regardless, because anecdotal evidence in one's personal life does not reduce incels' ability to make judgements on the lives of others. If anything, it heightens it.

We're like zoologists. The zoologist needn't have sex with a gazelle to understand gazelle mating behaviour, as the incel needn't have sex with the femois to understand femoid mating behaviour.

My premise is sound. The whole Chad/Normie/Stacy/etc nonsense is flawed from jump street.

By definition of being incel you can't actually understand human relationships and especially women, who... and this may surprise you, are just people. Describing them as a herd animal like gazelle is absurd and reductionist. You don't understand and you try to apply irrational reasoning to a thing you both covet and despise.

The zoologist comparison is hilarious. You're nothing like that. You draw conclusions based on emotion because they accommodate your world view.

Understanding people takes a sociological and psychological perspective. People are far removed from being like gazelle. You'll disagree but whatever the rest of us are gonna go get laid.

Cuck

what are we trying to do here champ

Long story short, incels aren't qualified to make any sort of generalizations about adult relationships or women simply by being incel. They don't have the experience or, let's be frank, any sort of reference point to speak on such matters. They only have an outside glimpse through a tainted lense... meaning anything said is laughably ignorant.

not everyone who's blackpilled is incel. op's shock satire is based on the very real fact that women date men they aren't attracted to or even like.

Eh, I don't take anyone seriously as soon as they say "__pilled" it only highlights ignorance.

you have no business here.

My business is trolling and making nerds who can't get laid waste their time by getting them riled up.

I think I'll hang out a bit.

being an asshole on the internet isn't going to bring your father back

My father is alive and well and we get along great.

You get defensive about a hate sub and can't refute anything that goes against your ideology without resorting to petty name calling.

It's funny that you say being an asshole cause unless I suddenly forgot how to read English, isn't that every post here?

you admitted to ignoring what i said and you admitted you were trolling. then you downvoted me when i mentioned your dad being gone. you're doing really well at this trolling thing in your head i take it.

Lmao, how tf are you gonna call yourself a troll and not be funny?

The most important part of trolling isn't being funny. It's making the people you target waste their energy responding.

I've had a really successful night.

Why did you waste your night with this shit?

It's a Tuesday and incels are easy targets?

Waste is a strong word, it's not like I put much effort into it.

You've been here for, like, 6 hours. Idk, I kinda hate people that come here to troll or bully and try and say they're perfectly happy, well-adjusted people that are infinitely better than everyone here. Me, I come here to shit on people, but I'm at least self aware, I know if I wasn't depressed myself I wouldn't be here at all. Your smugness is irritating.

I'll admit it's a slow night. But I'm not really breaking my normal Tuesday night routine too much. I'll be going to bed shortly. But what does it take to do anything I've done? Glance at the phone and take 5 seconds to type? You act like it takes effort.

I don't get how you think I'm smug or saying I am well adjusted or whatever I really haven't implied any of that. I just legitimately... and I can't stress that enough... love seeing incels get worked up.

But, why? Me, it's mostly just cathartic shitting on people objectively worse than me, and even then, I limit it to the legitimately bad incels, what do you get from this?

It's like playing a mindless video game on your phone or browsing reddit... there is no why there is just killing time.

I go about my life. Look at my phone for a few seconds while I type and get a few chuckles.

The enjoyable part to me is that my halfass effort can stir up such feverish responses. I don't even read most of what I respond to.

To sum up, I don't really "get" anything out of this. It's just another way to casually kill time. It's fun and I'd totally stop and move on if I got no response but here we are.

I doubt that, even then. This subreddit is way too specific, way too specific to be known by a well adjusted individual. Me, I utterly fucking hate incels now, but I only even know about this sub because I considered myself an incel in high school.

I only know of it because I use to troll r/incel regularly and I honestly don't remember how I stumbled on that.

It's not that specific if you search incel it's right there... and these guys are really up their own asses.

I mean, you need to know what an incel is to search incel, get my point? Yeah, they are up their own asses, honestly, I hate them more for the nonsense they say than I do for misogyny, but, still, it's not a good thing to have even heard of incels.

Again, I stumbled on r/incel... It's not rocket science. They're shit heads yes, but they're loads of fun.

Imagine being such a delusional, pathetic faggot that your idea of "fun" is "epick troleing xDDDD" a bunch of angry virgins on the internet.

Imagine being delusional enough to think you're somehow "better" than them because you're a regular on a board full of other neckbeards that also do the same thing (inceltears).

Fucking lol.

The hell pill.

Most numales are so cucked they would even be turned on to watch chad fuck their 3/10s

"Tee hee 70% of women can't orgasm from PIV sex alone!"

Yeah, because 70% of women fucks beta cucks.

True, they come like a mf when 8" chads cock is destroyin her

Much like how 100% of incels have no idea the female body works,let alone have the sexual experience to actually comment.

• of no relation to the comment
• hamfisted try at personal attack
• "how can you know anything without anecdotal, subjective evidence?"

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Yep, it's a normtard.

Sorry if you think needing sexual experience to accurately talk about sex accurately is a personal attack but it's the simple truth. If you think a massive cock is all you need achieving an orgasm, then sorry but you're clearly only experienced through porn. That's not how real life works.

It's a personal attack to them because it's the truth.

http://www.academia.edu/6514194/Mens_masculinity_and_attractiveness_predict_their_female_partners_reported_orgasm_frequency_and_timing

Studies agree with him. Your experience is of no value.

Study doesn't account for only PIV intercourse. So no, it doesn't agree with him.

Whereas men's masculinity and attractiveness predicted the frequency and timing of women's copulatory orgasms, these components did not predict women's orgasms achieved through self-masturbation or non-coital sexual activity with a partner.

How can you so smug while being a complete ignorant idiot?

So wait, i thought women only fucked Chad. Which is it, people who know nothing about sex? I'm dying to know.

Women want to only fuck Chads, but the socially enforced monogamy makes this impossible. There's only so many Chads to go around.

So women have no choice but to settle with "low quality" males, collectively known as betas, which are most of the male population.

Do You Want To Know More?

I bet you feel really smart after making this comment lmao

Light absorbing black pill.

Irrefutable. This is why us incels must never accept less than a pure virgin woman.

Even if it means becoming volcel. Hold your dignity soldier.

Heat-death-of-the-universe-black blackpill.

BRUTAL

If she's not soaking wet and begging to suck your dick on the first date at the latest, your relationship is worthless because she's not really that attracted to you. Women are like cats in heat around men they're attracted to.

It's over.

Or worse fucking a GF and her friend is much hotter than her.

You say dry, I say spit makes an excellent lube.

no it doesn't. Spit makes it worse, it just dries it out. If she really is dry while having sex with you, which I doubt. Use lube

This is the epitome of mindfuck of this sub.

If a random hot girl wanted to bang you at a party, would you say no? If not, you're a hypocrite.

Also, 9 times out of 10, that bone dry vagina is due to the dude being lazy/selfish/or oblivious. Straight dudes are terrible at sex. Just statistically.

you're only right about 3., the others show that you don't understand the context.

Enlighten me.

"the friction of incel dick penetrating dry vagina." How is this guy an incel?? He's getting laid in the story.

Yes, but being a cuck, in a Beta-bucks marriage on a progression to dead-bedroom (itself involuntary celibacy within a relationship), can be considered a fate as bad or worse than regular inceldom.

In both the gay and lesbian communities sexual ability is rewarded and everyone has equalish access. In the major straight sexual market place chad, anyone above the 80 percentile, will get sex regardless of if he is good at it. Chad-lite so anyone above the 70 percentile can still easily get sex as long as he is okayish. well on the over hand men in the up to the 40th percentile will get sex so infrequently through out there life they will simply never be anything over then bad from lack of practise. the 40-50th precentile have the intensive and some practise in sex and so they will be okay at it. Finally we have the 50-70 percentile which has both the practise and the insentive to be good at sex. Given that you could probably discount the bottom 20 in that group. Only 16% of men have both the insentive and practise to be good at sex. And so it appears all men are shit at sex.

Dude, pleasing a woman isn't that hard. A virgin can do some research ahead of time, and do a pretty solid job. Plus, every woman wants something different, so experience isn't necessarily going to make you rock a new girl's world.

But mostly,

insentive

You think the only reason to learn to give a girl an orgasm -- or even a remotely good time -- is to increase your odds in the sexual marketplace??? Not to just do something nice for your partner? Or prevent her from being in pain? Or because sex is waayyy better when your partner is into it?

That attitude is why nobody's fucking you. Which I say not in a "what a virgin" way, but in a "you have massively misunderstood this problem you want to solve" way.

I'm talking about the nature of the sexual market place when it comes to pleasuring a woman. People do things when there is an incentive to do them. There will be some difference between individuals but over all people do things because of incentives. I have no idea why you are just randomly insult. For top males, the only thing they care is getting off. There is no benefit to them trying to please the woman so they won't. There will be exceptions but generally the rule sticks. I was making a comment about how people act in general.

There will be some difference between individuals but over all people do things because of incentives.

I just told you all the other incentives.

Not to prevent her from being in pain? Or because sex is way better when your partner is into it? Not to just do something nice for your partner?

Your general rule describes nobody. You're living in a fantasy world.

You write shitty fan fiction

I wanna invent virus which will kill all men.

That's just because you want all of the women to yourself

still 99% of them would prefer their horse or dog.

Only the bestiality fetish ones, the lesbians wouldn't fuck you either

cool

Holy fuck you just beat the game I think

Wtf is an incel and wtf is this post about. I am confused. Do you guys hate women or hate yourselves? Genuinely curious what's going on.

you're in for a wild ride.

welcome to the Shit show

Do you guys hate women or hate yourselves?

Both

Lol. The biggest cope is to think this is a normal thing for 'Normies'. Sure, there are couples out there with shitty sex lives, but it's most certainly not everyone.

This rings somewhat true in my personal experience. My last gf told me that she had fucked 60 dudes prior to meeting/dating me. We fucked maybe 6-7 times in our 6 month relationship because she "wasn't really into sex anymore". It was all bullshit.. I mean it could be possible, but she was still into going to the freak club to get her ass beat, dance naked, see naked chicks, ect.. She claimed that fetishes weren't sexual. What a load of shit. Obviously it was just me.

Protip - avoid getting into a relationship with anybody kinkier than yourself. It's disgusting.

That was basically an emotionally abusive relationship dude lmao

My last gf told me that she had fucked 60 dudes prior to meeting/dating me.

Why the fuck you would you make her your gf lmao

Short answer - we clicked and she had a vagina

But that vagina had 60 dicks in it

Maybe you were bad at sex.

Maybe so, but she told me that she would get "pleasure waves" when she thought about when we had sex, so idk. On the other hand she was 6ft tall and very blown out and I'm 5'7 with an average peen so it is possible that our bodies just weren't compatible. I fucked the shit outta her but i guess it just wasn't enough for a gaper such as hers..

And guys not believing this is why I've never had an orgasm before

My premise is sound. The whole Chad/Normie/Stacy/etc nonsense is flawed from jump street.

By definition of being incel you can't actually understand human relationships and especially women, who... and this may surprise you, are just people. Describing them as a herd animal like gazelle is absurd and reductionist. You don't understand and you try to apply irrational reasoning to a thing you both covet and despise.

The zoologist comparison is hilarious. You're nothing like that. You draw conclusions based on emotion because they accommodate your world view.

Understanding people takes a sociological and psychological perspective. People are far removed from being like gazelle. You'll disagree but whatever the rest of us are gonna go get laid.

Girls prefer average dicks. Not crazy big not crazy small. It makes sense when you think about. The average girl prefers the average dick. One of the main reasons women don’t want incels is your obvious mental illness. It’s easy to pick up on if someone is a little off. Its instinctual. Natural selection if you will. I recommend therapy for all of you. The pictures you post are for the most part not ugly men. You look fine you just have awful social skills and no self esteem. These are things that you can work through and improve and achieve a normal happy life one day.

It's a Tuesday and incels are easy targets?

Waste is a strong word, it's not like I put much effort into it.

It's like playing a mindless video game on your phone or browsing reddit... there is no why there is just killing time.

I go about my life. Look at my phone for a few seconds while I type and get a few chuckles.

The enjoyable part to me is that my halfass effort can stir up such feverish responses. I don't even read most of what I respond to.

To sum up, I don't really "get" anything out of this. It's just another way to casually kill time. It's fun and I'd totally stop and move on if I got no response but here we are.

no it doesn't. Spit makes it worse, it just dries it out. If she really is dry while having sex with you, which I doubt. Use lube