It's a long wait. Might as well find something entertaining to occupy one's self while you wait in line. Also, no cutting ahead in line, or I'll fight you.

OR could try one of 50 options available to me...nah easier to make excuses and give up.

Ugh, thats like so much work and I spend 75% of my time making up excuses and blaming others.

people who blame themselves are mentally ill.

Nope, now they're blaming their mental illness! Truly amazing.

I'm saying that you are mentally ill, not me. The only people who beleive they are responsible for their own problems are mentally ill. If you take credit or blame for things you had nothing to do with then you are mentally ill.

The only people who beleive they are responsible for their own problems are mentally ill.

So the only healthy people are the victims?

If you blame yourself for problems you aren't healthy, you belong in a mental asylum because it means you have a guilt complex.

If you're poor, it's someone else's fault.

If you're unhappy, it's someone else's fault.

If you can't get a girl, it's someone else's fault.

If you can't find a job, it's someone else's fault.

If you suck at something, it's someone else's fault.

If you have problem X, it's someone else's fault.

Correct?

That's all literally true. No one ever chooses to be poor, broke, low IQ, disabled, etc. In the ancient and middle ages this was common knowledge and we referred to such people as "unfortunantes". For some reason in the last 50 years now we have this whole very sick ideology that you are the fault of your problems and the reason you are successful if you are. Only mentally ill people buy into it.

I'm sure you believe every holocaust victim deserved it, every starving African child deserves it, and every aids victim deserves it because "Welp its your problems your fault".

Right, you're comparable to a holocaust victim, or a starved child. Wake the fuck up and take some responsibility for your life you pathetic loser.

Your belief is that everyone who takes self-responsibility is mentally ill. You are going to live a very, very miserable and painful life if you continue this way. And you know what's ironic? It'll be your fault, because that shit mindset is what's bringing it onto yourself.

Now never compare yourself to the real victims of history and get the fuck out. Grow a pair and get over what you see in the mirror. And you compare yourself to people facing horrible deaths because you've been rejected by 5 women. Fuck you.

Grow a pair, grow the fuck up, and fuck off. I've never been rejected before because i don't ask anyone out since i don't even have a fucking chance. You have no fucking proof any of this is my fault.

It's completely 100% your responsibility. YOU HAVEN'T EVEN TRIED. And you call me a pussy in another post and tell me to grow a pair here. You both know you're talking to yourself, because you're the biggest pussy here. Stop projecting.

I've talked to girls in the past in casual conversation. I notice they look at their phone, let me get interupyed, zone out, etc. One even said "omg I don't care". Those are indirect ways of saying "fuck off" and show me I am unworthy of them. So if I tried to hit on them I would be rejected since I obviously understand their basic body language

I've talked to girls in the past in casual conversation

Congratulations, you've spoken to a few people that comprise half the fucking world's population.

I notice they look at their phone, let me get interupyed, zone out, etc

Maybe it's because you're a fucking victim, defeatist, weak, uninteresting, and boring.

So learn what it takes to not be that. This can be learned. You've said a lot of crap today, and I've never heard anything more disgusting than "Anyone who blames themselves is mentally ill" -- your implication that self-responsibility means mental illness makes me sick to my stomach.

My instinct was to laugh at you, but I deeply feared you may have actually believed it. And you do. Because your brain is broken. Fix your broken ass brain. TAKE responsibility. This is on you. Fixing this is on you. I can help you but decided to fix it is ON YOU.

Snowflake parenting has left these poor guys with a total inability to take responsibility for anything, it's a pretty disturbing trend.

Snowflake parenting may be a factor but it's not the cause. There is no excuse to be made, no finger to point for incels, except at the mirror. They chose victimization over responsibility because it's the easy way out. It's also much, much more miserable, but it validates the illusion that the problem isn't them.

Why would we blame ourselves when we have no reason to. Only mentally ill people blame themselves for their problems because not a single problem in the world on someone is caused by them, otherwise there would be no problems. I didn't choose to be born with a low IQ, I didn't choose to be ugly and short and etc.

I'll explain to you if you're willing to use your brain. It will only be about one sentence long, but I need to make sure you'll be willing to use your brain first. Promise?

Explain it.

Taking responsibility is not the same as blaming yourself. Example from tragedy: a man loses his fiancé in a car accident. Absolutely awful. It wasn't HIS FAULT. But it's HIS REPSONSIBILITY to find a way to move on. Understand?

So what would you suggest I should do to take responsibility? What should i do with my life? I'm in highschool so i tried focusing on school and stuff to become a good wagecuck but I keep failing the tests even with studying and paying attention.

Send me a live chat here. I'm about to head out. Give me more info about your past, history, women, whatever you're comfortable sharing. More info the better. I'll point you in the right direction

Ever since I was 12 I noticed everyone treated me differently, they gave me less respect, would never initiate conversation with me, would cut me off when I spoke, wouldn't look me in the eyes ever, and when i had a three way conversation it would quickly become a two way between the two other people. I notice subtle signs people find me subhuman like when I speak and they don't look at more or when people don't even glance at me, very subtle subhuman signs.

K I'll respond to you when I'm back.

Anyway mate you need to stop using the term "subhuman". Sounds like they look at you as having less social value. This happens all the time in highschool and doesn't mean shit. But there are ways around it.

Guess what I turns out my mark is this semester in math. 45%. And im actually trying

Ok for one it appears like you just ignored what I said. So I have to make sure, are you listening or am I just someone to vent to

Secondly, there's a reason you're getting 45% beyond "actually trying". This is the "incel problem". They all say "I tried but I said so what's the point in trying". This is bullshit. Trying is not made equal. Maybe you don't know how to study on your own. Maybe you're not understand the concepts. Maybe you're not doing enough practice questions. Maybe you choke on tests. I don't know, but it's YOUR responsibility to find the answer and fix it. Don't try to tell me your mark in math defines you as a person because that's crap

My mark in math defines me as a person because I won't get into a good program if I don't do well in math which means I won't get good job

So out of everything I said, you only addressed the last line.

If you're not going to listen, I'm not going to attempt to help.

Your basically saying it's my responsibility because I'm doing something wrong. I know why I can't so math. I'm stupid. My private tutor who taught ivy league students can't help me. I can't help myself. My dad can't help me. He even admits I'm a failure

Your basically saying it's my responsibility because I'm doing something wrong

I was going to help you find out what that thing is, and improve it, to improve your results. This is how life works. Instead you ignored everything I said. Again, I can't help someone who does not want to be helped.

I already know what it is. It's becuase im a low IQ SUBHUMAN, aka LESS THAN HUMAN

You don't want to be helped so I have to leave you to suffer the consequences of your giving up. There is no other way.

I don't see what i can do to improve. I am doing tutoring, I get help from my dad, i pay attention, i re-read the notes. I don't know what i can do to improve myself.

How many hours a week are you putting in? How many practice questions are you doing every day?

I just wait until before the test and try to figure it all out then. We usually have tests Monday so I spend the weekend doing all the homework. I know you'll say "oh you should do it earlier" but if I spend 6 hours a day for two days straight that's 12 hours of math. And then i STILL can't get it.

Right, so you procrastinate, don't even put in the work, and then say "I've tried everything I just have subhuman IQ". Classic incel.

You'real not studying every day. Wanna do well? Study every day. And you tell me you've tried everything. Full of shit. I'm done responding to you

I understand how you feel about your math grade, I've certainly struggled with classes before, and for various reasons, some of them my own fault and some of them not. I even failed a class and had to retake it before, it was the worst feeling ever.

No one is good at everything, and some unlucky people actually like the things they're bad at and wish they could be good but they just don't have the inclination for it. It's okay to struggle, it's okay to fail, and it's okay to not be good at something you want to be good at, everyone goes through that in some way or another so there's absolutely nothing wrong with you for struggling with math.

What do you feel is inhibiting you from doing well in math? Do you feel like you're just not good at math no matter how hard you try, or do you feel like something else is going on that's getting in the way? Also, besides math, what are some other things you're interested in that you're at least decent at? It doesn't necessarily have to be a school subject, just anything you like that you're halfway decent at.

Also, to try and help clarify the difference between blaming yourself versus taking responsibility for yourself better than MotivationHacker is doing, I'll give you an example from my life. In my first semester in college I took a creative writing class with a professor that just clashed with me all the time about my writing style. There was never anything necessarily wrong with the mechanics of my writing, he just didn't like my creative style and would always criticize it and refuse to give me a passing grade until I edited it to fit his style. I refused to compromise my own style in a CREATIVE WRITING class and as a result I got an F. This was pretty annoying especially since this was college so I had to pay for this class, and now I had to retake it and pay for it AGAIN just because I had an asshole professor. I retook the class during the summer, made sure I had a different professor, and the second time I got an A. I didn't blame myself for what happened, but I took responsibility for myself in fixing it. That's what makes the difference, taking responsibility for yourself simply means recognizing what you can do to better your situation, but it doesn't mean that you have to blame yourself for the situation in the first place.

No one is good at everything, and some unlucky people actually like the things they're bad at and wish they could be good but they just don't have the inclination for it. It's okay to struggle, it's okay to fail, and it's okay to not be good at something you want to be good at, everyone goes through that in some way or another so there's absolutely nothing wrong with you for struggling with math.

There is something wrong with struggling with math. This will literally decide whether I get a good job and escape inceldom like my dad or I'll become some absolute loser subhuman with no redeeming qualities

What do you feel is inhibiting you from doing well in math?

I cant understand it. I learn it, think i fully understand it, and then i am given a new equation and I can't do it.

Well what level of math are you on? Sometimes people just need to go back and re-learn the more foundational math.

And there are plenty of good jobs that don't require math, for example you don't need math to go to law school and become a federal judge.

holocaust victim

Holocaust """victims""" didn't even try. They needed to wake the fuck up and take some responsibility. Don't want to be thrown into a gas-chamber? Get the fuck out of German-occupied areas.

starved child

"""starved""" children can always just go eat bugs for protein and some foliage for fiber. Of course they're too good to eat bugs and leaves so they """starve""".

You're right, nothing that ever happens is any fault but your own, take responsibility for life and change it. Never say anyone is a victim. Fuck you.

Yeah dude you're really comparable to holocaust victims or starving children. There is totally nothing you can do to better your situation. You're no prisoner, just a pathetic pussy.

>logic gets dismantled

>starts ad hominem attacks

Every time, like clockwork lmao.

You had no logic. You are not a prisoner. You have 50 options you can try. A prisoner does not. Why have you tried none of these options?