proves the diff between us and them is we have higher testosterone. i don't know how tho cause im a framecel but rage and wanting to enslave all women requires testosterone so i must have it. i can see the difference between how normie males post and how guys post on here. i can sense the test difference.
See kiddo. There's nothing wrong with girls always going for the Chad type and you should accept your place as an ugly scum and just accept it. And if you don't you're a misogynistic creepy piece of shit who fantasies about raping women, you sick fuck.
Their advice is always the same recycled garbage. Something about the way it's written (perhaps the needless capitalization of full words and rehashing of truisms like step 4) gives it a very condescending vibe.
It's actually pretty fuckin weird but they're all starting to sound and look the same to me. Same haircuts, same clothing, same views, same everything. They're like a giant hive mind stark trek borg shit, varying only slightly in shape and body. Their archetypes are so simple and easy to read it's embarrassing.
Why are Normies soooo fucking stupid? So dense? So in denial?
This scenario is very common. Take three dudes, all great personalities, and bring a chick into the mix -- she will almost ALWAYS go for the best-looking guy. Always.
Thots don't think, care, or quantify anything when it comes to men OTHER THAN LOOKS.
There are RARE exceptions. Rare.
Thots are just like men visually, but with much higher standards and want nothing to do with guys below an 8.
Men will fuck women who are 3s, and often be attracted to women who are 5s.
This is reality, those denying it are insufferable morons.
I would ask that you refrain from spreading misinformation and generalizing incels. I have seen incels cop to wanting a girl at any level of looks over a hundred times (in the literal sense). The ONLY deal-breaker for some is being a moderately healthy weight. Obesity is a lifestyle choice, not something forced upon you. Can they not have that single standard or is even that too much? Guess they should just take whoever comes knocking right?
I'm personally of the opinion that looks don't determine worth. So no, I won't stick with my "looksmatch". I'll date a girl I like if she'll have me whether she's a 1 or a 10.
I'm sorry, I just can't believe a man would date someone who he genuinely thinks is a 1/10. I think sexual attraction is really important for men.
I'm not saying they shouldn't have any standards. But I kinda think both men and women shouldn't complain that they can't find anyone, when they only want an attractive partner, and won't give anyone who isn't a chance. Then you shouldn't really complain either. Some incels are like that though.
What do you mean you won't stick to your looksmatch?
The statement implies people must pair up with someone of equivalent attractiveness, as if some kind of hierarchy exists (the modern day "rich can't marry poor). So much goes into relationships than looks, it's about achieving a emotional bond with a person that transcends the physical.
I would date a 1. I don't have low libido but sex is honestly not even on the same spectrum as love for me. I could go my whole life without having it again (escortcel) as long as I had affection. Anything short of legitimate deformity (I asked myself if I could date a deformed girl, and honestly I'm not sure I'm that strong yet) is fine with me. Proper hygiene and lifestyle habits are a must though. Anything you can't control is fine, but anything you can is reflective of your personality.
And yes, some incels have high standards. We have a name for them here: volcel.
chads will fuck 3 and 5s all day. you're delusional. guys aren't picky the way women are. we enjoy sex. and we're willing to give a woman a shot even if she's not that attractive.
My advice to this kid is to bend over, take it up the ass gracefully, and get used to it lol. It's not going to get better no matter how much you RESPEK wymyn or how much you see them as HOOMAN.
The cringiest part was where he said that he'd been "working on" her. Like wtf you're not getting more attractive by literally spending months "improving" for some girl. Move on.
Too many guys playing the friend zone game, just doesn't work. Ask her out right away and get that rejection out of the way lol and move on to the next rejection.
Tbf asking her out right away is also not good. There needs to be a some time where you need to get to know her, and casually ask her out. If her response is positive, then you've got yourself a date.
I'll ask out a girl online by the second day of talking. How long are we talking here? Although I agree the guy should hang out with her two or three times and then ask. Not a half year lmao
Really? I mean I obviously don't literally "ask" them irl but building some connection is a must. I don't use that retarded PUA TRP shit but try to be appealing. Once you've got their number ask them out casually by text and set up a meeting place. I usually go out to parks since I don't have much money to spend on fancy dinners and shit.
Yeah, it's a pretty hilarious thread. The guy in the OP was literally dictated a blackpill in real life, by the girl he likes no less. Can't get anymore brutal than that.
I mean, isn't this the perfect example of confirmation bias?
A guy shares one example where there's a good chance he came on way too strong ('I try so hard to get with girls I like') and it's an example of how 'all women are the same'? Nahhh this is cherry picking
Both sides cherry pick. But the truth is that looks do matter, and so does personality, but you need to have the bare minimum looks for it to matter. Ugly men with extraordinary personalities rarely get genuine relationships.
They could, if they went for other ugly women who also have extraordinary personalities. However, if you sulk about how much your live sucks on braincels, I can guarantee you don't have an extraordinary personality and constantly reek of negativity.
Unfortunately, ugly women have it easier because guys are more desperate. If you can get a good looking guy with a great personality, why go for the ugly one?
Hahahaha that is some logic stretch right there.
Incels exist bc they CHOSE to compliment their bad looks with a terrible, self-loathing personality. If you dont bring anything to the table or respect yourself, why would any woman, no matter how ugly, want to be around you?
Unfortunately being ugly, in many cases, is not a choice. But being an Incel, IS a choice.
I am. It's much easier to feel sorry for yourself and validate your choice with a bunch of strangers on the internet, than to put in the hard work and become a better version of yourself people will want to be around and possibly wanna date. It's not a conspiracy, it's human nature. Missory loves company.
I am. It's much easier to feel sorry for yourself and validate your choice with a bunch of strangers on the internet, than to put in the hard work and become a better version of yourself people will want to be around and possibly wanna date. It's not a conspiracy, it's human nature. Missory loves company.
What exactly did incels choose to do? Be born ugly?
When I grew up in the 90s, kids were actually taught life isnt fair. So im not saying it is for incels. It's not fair, you were dealt a shitty hand. Your far behind and I believe it's achievable. For me I realized I was good at sports. Atleast as a skill, even tho I was small and weak. So I played baseball (2nd base), wrestling (compete by weight), and basketball (shooting guard). I rarely worked out so I was skinny with a spare tire. In college I played club sports so I was always around people, building my social network. I focused on self awareness. Knowing my strengths and playing to them. Focused on leaving a positive impact with everyone. Sometimes people were dicks and I brushed it off, didn't let them phase me or look weak. I still battled depression when it didn't work out with women, but I always showed a positive attitude, and it's crazy how well people can sense that.
After college I kept my close friends, and continued to work on myself. Didn't work out until my late 20s, and it helped with my confidence, which is wildly important to how people percieve you. My network was so big by the time I hit my late 20s that I'd always find a friend or aquaitence when I was out. Women picked up on that energy and want to be around it, even if they didn't realize it. I started getting laid around this time and I used it to boost my confidence. I legit faked it until I made it. Had a few serious gfs and am currently with a woman who's out of my league. See I learned hitting on a woman was never going to work for me. I gave up on it and let my personality do the talking. I was positive, fun, interested in other people, and didn't try to fuck women just bc they were nice to me. My current gf was part of our friends group, and learned to like me after seeing how fun I was.
Ofcourse 'Chads' don't have to do all this work, but I do. It's not fair, but that's how it is. So I worked for it. He may be having fun but I know he doesn't appreciate getting laid and finding happiness like I do. They never had to work for it. I realize some of this might come off smug but Im writting this all from my phone and if that's the tone I'm giving off, I promise it's not on purpose. The point is it can be done. Choosing to feel sorry for yourself is an easy way out. But working for it is worth it a hundred times over. If anyone wants to chat feel free to PM me.
No shit, life isn't fair. I'm curious, why do you never tell female rape victims that life is not fair? Why is it always the people with whom you disagree that should just suck it up and ignore decades of oppression? Why do you never expect women to rise above their circumstances?
I see you're a Trump supporter. Do you think people react predictably to their environment? Do you really think that incels just have to work harder to achieve the same as Chads? That's all there is to it?
Not going to talk about female rape victims or other oppressed people because I don't know what their struggle is like. I'm only responding to the struggle I've personally experienced.
I'm not a trump supporter, you probably didn't read my comments in context. But to answer your question yes Incels have to work harder, but I'm not saying they will be Chads. By working hard incels can definitely achieve some success with women. And if that is what brings them happiness, it is very possible.
Not going to talk about female rape victims or other oppressed people because I don't know what their struggle is like. I'm only responding to the struggle I've personally experienced.
You don't know what it's like to be incel either.
Let me ask you a question. Does an incel have a moral obligation to help a woman being raped?
But to answer your question yes Incels have to work harder, but I'm not saying they will be Chads. By working hard incels can definitely achieve some success with women. And if that is what brings them happiness, it is very possible.
But why do you expect incels to rise above their circumstances when even at their absolute best efforts they will still not get as much female attention as Chad does. How can you even deny that our society oppresses incels at this point?
Honestly man your bringing up questions that have nothing to do with what I'm talking about and getting in a debate with you about it isn't going to solve anything.
To repeat myself, I'm not saying incels can be like Chad's if they work on it, or aren't treated poorly. My point is with the right attitude direction and persistence, a level of success can be achieved. Also happiness is a subjective.. so for example, if getting as much female attention as Chad is the only thing that will make you happy, then you won't ever be happy. But if it's something like improving yourself in an effort to feel better, improve your mental health, and potentially find a woman who loves you, then yes happiness is very possible. If you have to, please reread my comments and try to understand what I'm saying.
Honestly man your bringing up questions that have nothing to do with what I'm talking about and getting in a debate with you about it isn't going to solve anything.
What is wrong with having a debate? Are you saying that you can't defend your positions if asked to?
I've defended everything I've said so far. You don't want to debate, you want to change the subject matter when I make a point that challenges your ideology, prodding until you find a flaw in what I'm saying so you can jump all over it and discredit everything I've said. if you found out that incels have the opportunity to actually improve their lot in life that reality would be too harsh for you to accept. Im sharing my situation for those who feel hopeless and WANT to improve. If they see similarities in my story to their situation maybe they'll find hope.
I'm not trying to change the topic, I'm trying to get down to the root of our disagreements.
you found out that incels have the opportunity to actually improve their lot in life that reality would be too harsh for you to accept.
The problem is that you expect incels to rise above their circumstances despite being born disadvantaged. You are asking all these things from incels, while women maintain their status are oppressors and nothing is expected from them in return.
Don't compare inceldom to being a rape victim. Being ugly fucking sucks, but you can do stuff to get around it.
The thing you lot don't seem to understand, is most "normies" and "chads" and whatever other stupid fucking internet terms you lot use don't think you can just go to the gym and start slaying.
Here's scenario 1 for an ugly guy, which I bet fits a huge amount of this sub:
ugly kid doesnt have a good time in school cos kids are fucking mean. That really sucks, and I'm sorry so many of you have to go through that.
They end up with low self confidence and hardly any friends, they make friends with other "losers" in their school. The hobbies they take up are isolated and "uncool" like gaming and spending way too much time online.
They fall into dispair and self loathing, and start being quite hateful towards other guys and all women.
Vicious cycle repeats while they think they can't change anything.
Now, here's scenario 2:
Ugly guy starts boxing. Starts lifting weights. Gets stronger, muscular, fitter, and can take care of himself. All attractive qualities.
Makes friends through sport. Spends far less time isolated and on circle-jerk echo chambers like this sub.
His mindset starts getting more positive. Yeah, life's still not the best, but there's hope. Turns out not every Chad/woman is pure evil, who knew? ATTRACTIVE QUALITY.
This guy ends up having stories to tell. Does cool stuff in his life. Has hobbies that improve himself, instead of isolating himself. Looks/is healthy. Is positive, doesn't hate everyone etc. Dresses well. All attractive qualities.
The guy in scenario 1 will be incel for life. The guy in scenario 2 can get a woman, it's just obviously much harder with an ugly face. Looks really matter, but there's far more to attraction than just a face. A face is just the "face" of it, the first thing they see/judge you on. It's not the end of it.
That's why you get told life's unfair. Because you need to understand that, cut back on the self pity and do something about it if you want any kind of change. Doesn't mean people aren't sympathetic that you got dealt a bad hand, the attitude of most people on this sub is what loses the sympathy.
Rape victims being told "life's unfair" helps nothing.
Time to get told how wrong I am and get downvoted to hell....
I'm not. I'm 5'8", bald, with a large nose and I do just fine. I work on myself. I didn't wanna share this info bc I've been here long enough to know I'll just be accused of lying. But I know what its like to be ugly and still make it work. Itd be cool if this comment didn't get so much hate and instead got actual questions, but I highly doubt it'll play out that way. It's unfortunate
All the time. Girls typically like taller guys so that limits the dating pool. Nothing worse than being out at the bar and people bumping into you because they assume they physically have the upper hand, and if it pisses you off you all of a sudden have a Napoleon complex. You have to stand up for yourself confidently without getting yourself in trouble and it's tough to balance
Because there a plenty of smaller women (around 5'), where 5'8" is plenty tall enough. Women have their standards and men have theirs. I always reminded myself 'it only has to work once'. It's a numbers game and I played it until it worked. Forced to be playing the numbers game also helped me improve my game so it wasn't necessarily a bad thing
You'd have to be a complete RETARD not to notice this. Even before I knew about "incel" culture or "red pill" this and that I knew this was true and that there was ZERO point in talking to girls unless they seemed openly interested in you. No, no one wants to be friends with girls dumbass roasties, you guys are boring as fuck and have worse personalities than even incel losers, it's the truth. Any guy who is your "friend" just wants to fuck you - is a beta orbiter.
I get laid a lot. I have a lot of female friends, because if you treat them like a human you realise they...shock...have a personality too. Some are even funny (although I will admit guys are normally funnier, and most girls I know recognise that)
This is the problem, you’re over 6’2 and a boxer, you need to fucking kill yourself, I guarantee you are 99% more attractive than most incels. No incel has ever had a girl initiate conversation with him. Fucking retarded low sentience moron.
Ok firstly buddy, have a quick re-read of your comment. This is why people talk about incels and their personalities. Does that really look like someone that anyone would want to be friends with, let alone date? The amount of anger you have for anyone who isn't exactly the same as you is fucking crazy. Then you insult me calling me retarded etc. when I can pretty much guarantee I'm smarter than you, but that's beside the point.
Yes, I'll admit I got fucking lucky with genetics. 6'4, model til my mid teens, and now I have a good physique cos I work fucking hard for it. So compared to the average incel, I have it really easy and I sympathise.
But although I have lots of male and female friends outside this group, I have a big friendship group back home. This has some really good looking guys, and some fucking ugly ones. Guess what, the girls are friends with them too. They text them, ring them, arrange to meet up etc. Their looks have nothing to do with it, it's because they enjoy eachothers company. Actual humans do that...
I think they have good personalities because they do, not just cos they wanna fuck me or whatever you think. They're smart, funny, they're there for me as a friend if I need them, they'll take the piss out of me and have banter the rest of the time. It's called friendship, and it works for guys and girls.
Also, I worked with someone last summer and became mates. He was 23, a virgin, 5'4ish, shy, 4/10 face. He got laid for the first time by the end of summer thanks to advice/gentle pushing from me and my friend.
It's fucking hard for people with unfortunate genetics. It's not impossible unless you make it impossible for yourself, which is what this sub is all about. Making it impossible.
Boxer
Modelled till teens
6'4
Good frame and physique
Why do you think your opinion is relevant here? You are literally the last person anyone should take seriously here. You don't, and will never see life like us. I don't think you can even imagine, much less understand, about how hard dating is. You say it's hard for the genetically cursed. You don't really understand the depth of that difficulty. So, genuinely, why? Why did you come here? Is it some of kind of sick pleasure? Is it some kind of dumb pity/sympathy? Is the delusional belief that what worked for you will work for us? Seriously, why?
Ok firstly I come here out of some weird curiosity sometimes because of the twisted people on here. Idc if someone's "incel" or not, doesn't change my opinion of the person in the slightest. But some of the stuff I read on here is horrifying and I can't look away, like a car crash. I've never seen this much hate towards everyone and everything.
And idk if you read the comments I was replying to. The only reason I got involved was because of someone who said "roastie cunts can't be friends" "they have no personality" etc. I don't think it's an unachievable task for you lot. You're humans, just like me.
I was replying to a very specific comment. My experience is relevant when it comes to whether "femoids" are human and capable of friendship, cos it's something I see every day. My experience isn't relevant when it comes to the daily life of being incel.
I've known a lot more struggle in my life than you probably think, along with chronic depression and anxiety for years, so while I haven't experienced your particular issue I do sympathise, whether you want it or not. I'm not here to get some "sick pleasure" from other people's suffering.
So nah, I won't fuck off the sub. I'll keep reading, and since advice isn't allowed/accepted I'll stick to occasionally replying to some of the more fucked up/twisted stuff I see
Obviously girls think about the hot guys when left to their own devices, same way guys want the hot girls. Not saying whether she would or wouldnt have gone for him if he grew some balls and tried it.
But if you spend months talking with a girl, spending time with her etc but show no sexual interest. Thats how you make a FRIEND, and she'll never see you as anything more.
This guy's pissed off when he's the one that fucked up.
a) I never said that, all I said is slowly making friends with someone over the course of several months isn't how you get a girl, despite what rom-coms tell you
a rapist is whenever a girl doesn't like a guy. he doesn't even have to rape her. he can just be a rapist because she says so, in public opinion he will be a rapist.
be at college, girl accuses you of rape, you are expelled and known as a rapist
They cannot accept this. They cannot accept how unfair dating is for a growing amount of males, as this reflects poorly on women and proves they are shallow.
I hear the sounds of millions of blue pilled cucks and beta orbiters reaching enlightenment and joining the cause. Society was the way it was for thousands of years for good reason. It's over for you roasties, and blue pilled cucks.
Alright, I'll place a $40 on you being an ugly as fuck beta male who has never fucked a hot chick in his life. Another $20 on you going 2+ years without having a "girlfriend", and if you have a girlfriend now, just know that during those 2 years she was having fun, teehee!
Your hostility is because your defending your world view. You want this to so badly not be true. But deep down inside, you know little cuck. lmfao.
Pretty incredible. Back then, you had to wait forever for just an image, and porn movies were only shared on LANs, since common Internet was extremely too slow for that..
And the images weren't that great either, I remember seeing my first actually porn image months later, since most you could find was softcore.
Back then you collected good stuff and burned it on CDs.
Today, I can't remember when I didn't just stream..
You're going to tell me, with all honesty, thay if a girl with a perfect 10 body and face asked you to be in a relationship with her, you would tell her no?
If so then you're the one bullshitting there friend.
It's very possible for men. I'm like...average looking best, am a nihilist (which nobody likes to be around), an oddball in general and I often come home smelling like stir fry after work just to sit in my room and play video games.
Yet I've managed to crawl out of my hovel and date good looking and fun to be around girls I genuinely liked having in my life.
If I can do it, I promise you can too
I don't know, does it make you feel good to complain about how miserable you are and how it's everyone else's fault in a great big circle her of other people who are just as self loathing as you when you could easily get off your lazy backside and do something to not seem like such a miserable twat?
I don't know what the toss these pills are people keep referencing, it sounds like some sort of God awful matrix reference that got twisted and needs to stop.
Maybe you should realize I'm judging the comment of spreading lies (dating up being a possibility for men) before jumping to the conclusion I'm spewing on sometjing I know nothing about.
I have a dissenting opinion on the incel philosophy, I can argue against it without spending time googling what these various pills mean because the arguments they're often used in against me are pretty self explanatory
Whatever you say but maybe just maybe you should look it up anyway so you can avoid looking like a dumbass who doesnt know what he's talking about. Oh what am i saying that is what you are.
I understand and respect that, even appreciate it because help is something people don't try to give me when I post a dissenting opinion here. It's honestly just not on my list of priorities , between college, work and the new far cry I've got a good chunk omtjings I'd rather do than look up odd Matrix references.
Again, appreciate it, and maybe I'll look into it when there's nothing to do, but ..ehhh
Good luck trying to tell these guys. They literally have an excuse for everything. Even if you showed them an interview between you and your incredibly hot girlfriend, they'd find a way to "disprove" it.
I know man, and this forum makes it so much worse for these people.
Somewhere to vent and get support can be healthy, somewhere to post and have hundreds of extremely toxic people all agreeing with eachother about fucked up things is so unhealthy, there's no escaping it for most of these guys
Sad thing is there's the few that genuinely make the effort and they change for the better. I see all kinds of encouraging messages and comments on those posts, seeing a distinct lack of it everywhere else here is just disappointing
Insecure guys are insecure about the attention their partners get.
When my girls get stared at, it's a positive. If I see someone chatting her up in a bar, I sit behind him and laugh as she tries to politely get him to leave
Just look at this sexless ponce assuming because I don't agree with this opinion , that I'm automatically a woman.
Well congratulations you made an argument that doesn't disprove what I said, you could easily say that graph is determined by the parameters people put in their match filter (which the site lets you do) and argue that the numbers are skewed by guys on the site lowballing themselves by lowering their standards.
But I'll continue to tell you more about how men like physically attractive women because it's something human beings in general tend to like. Physical aesthetic is something our mind finds pleasing to look at, be it in art, architecture, nature or other people. If you watch porn I don't think for a second you're watching a woman getting screwed and thinking about how great her personality is, you're thinking about how hot she is and how you'd like to be screwing her instead of the guys being paid to.
Also if you're going to post a graph maybe post a link to the paper that goes along with it, because I don't know if it's because I haven't eaten since breakfast or that I got off work not long ago, but that looks vague as all hell.
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch. I’ll have you know my name is John, and I woke up this morning 5:30 sharp to the smell of wet pussy. I was getting a blowjob from two bitches (Shit was SO Cash), one was trying to fit my humongous 3 pound balls in her mouth while the other was choking halfway on my 18 and 3\8 inch dick. She started to squirt hard, she was convulsing and having 6 orgasms at the same time. I gave it to them and they were on the floor squirting like motherfucking fountains. Must have come about a quart of sperm and compressed air. Imagine your best orgasm, then multiply it by 35. I had to go to base camp so I front-flipped from my 14th floor barracks into my valet parked 2012 Ferrari (I got connexions). Pushed my shit to about 4 hundo (mph, mind you) and I was at base camp in no time. When I entered, I became a top sniper and was granted access to the entire arsenal of the USMC. I learned how to kill someone in over 700 different ways and was assigned to be the leader of a squad that will kill 300 terrorists using gorilla warfare tactics. Also did 6000 push-ups, 8000 sit-ups and bench-pressed 30 plates in 16 minutes. After basic training, I met a network of secret spies who will help me trace your IP address, while eating gold plated sushi and 15,000 $ champagne. My unit got the rest of the day off and I became captain of our base’s football team and starter of the basketball team. I got straight A’s on the military entrance exams and received more awards. Meanwhile, you were jacking off to pictures on Facebook and naked drawn Japanese people. Went back in the Lambo to my barracks and now I am getting ready to go to sleep. I am going to graduate at the top of my class in the Navy Seals tomorrow and I want to look pretty much perfect for it. Don’t be a stranger and remember, I did more in one day than you will your entire life.
That's a lovely story that's undoubtedly a lie pulled from the depths of your ass, honestly I've seen better material in youtube comments and twitter posts by soulja boy.
But to answer you, you know exactly what I wrote you unkempt neckbeard with eyes, you can obviously read, but apparently you can't write worth a cancerous dick.
Holy fuck, sweet mother of Ron Swanson's glorious 'stache, reading that shit made me pray for glaucoma. You've got all the literary nuance of a syphilitic gibbon and clearly no knowledge of how the human body actually functions, or what pussy actuslly smells like since you were likely smelling the spunk leftover from last night's vigorous wank.
In short, learn to write and troll better you fuckin' spoon.
Incel,volcel, it doesn't really matter, none of it matters.
You're all just the same kind of hateful mite that are very easy to understand.
Also I don't know what a foid is, I assume you're calling me a woman (short for femoid?)
The point of "Chads" is that women want to fuck hot men. ...isn't the point of this sub that you dudes want to fuck hot women? I literally don't understand.
isn't the point of this sub that you dudes want to fuck hot women?
Uh... NO. Literally lurk more. You don't know a single thing about incels if you think we're only going after 10/10s. ALL women are rejecting us because we're subhuman and because of hypergamy.
Wanting to fuck an 10/10 and actively pursing a 10/10 are two completely different things. Do you honestly think any of us are wasting our time going after stacys? lmao.
On the contrary, women are regularly pushing aside all other men in favor of chads. ALL women are like this, even the ones who are ugly or average at best.
Women are completely delusional and demanding. Us incels are realistic and try to go for women who are below average/average.
On the contrary, women are regularly pushing aside all other men in favor of chads. ALL women are like this, even the ones who are ugly or average at best.
If she's shy and ~18, there's a good chance she's not pursuing anyone. I wasn't.
As i already said, even if she wasn't actively pursing chads she clearly only wants chads. that means normies and subhumans are fucked.
Bullshit.
Not bullshit. tons and tons of women admit in their 20s they are incredibly shallow and only once their looks fade dot hey suddenly start caring about personality.
Isn't this your answer? Just date older women. 30 definitely isn't crone age.
You're deluded. If a woman isn't attracted to you it makes them in no way a bad person. If a gay guy, or a hugely fat girl was nice to you and flirted with you does it make you a bad person to turn them down? Of course not. Start accepting reality. Whining all day about how girls don't find you attractive is likely one of your many list of flaws that result in you not getting laid.
uh who said she's a bad person? stop strawmanning.
how about YOU start accepting reality that looks are extremely important to women? that's the entire point of this post and you're putting words into my mouth and saying i called her a bad person for not going out with that guy. Take your impotent rage elsewhere.
It looks like you're the one with a problem accepting reality. The rest of the world already realised looks are important, it's never been a secret, how are you guys only just figuring it out? What normal functional people do when they have a problem is deal with it, or accept it and move on, what they don't do is sit on an internet forum crying about it all day like absolute pussies. You are the definition of the word pathetic.
He'll finish school, remain a virgin until some dumb bitch decides she's ready to settle for betabux because a cpl of her Facebook friends got married last year. He will then delude himself that she really loves him, because feelings, until his wife divorces him for irreconcilable differences and takes half his shit. Then he will sign up for mgtow, secretly wishing a woman could love him the entire time he reads the forum.
Wanting to fuck an 10/10 and actively pursing a 10/10 are two completely different things. Do you honestly think any of us are wasting our time going after stacys? lmao.
On the contrary, women are regularly pushing aside all other men in favor of chads. ALL women are like this, even the ones who are ugly or average at best.
Women are completely delusional and demanding. Us incels are realistic and try to go for women who are below average/average.
Good luck trying to tell these guys. They literally have an excuse for everything. Even if you showed them an interview between you and your incredibly hot girlfriend, they'd find a way to "disprove" it.
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1 Salvador66 2018-03-27
IT is starting to lose their minds. Soon the numales will be on our side. Long live the black pill.
1 niceoleader 2018-03-27
it's funny because the vast majority of women will freely admit they're huge whores in their 20s and they only want chad cock.
literally the only people denying the above are bluepulled cucks. it's hilarious how that works.
it's only once they women the wall (25~30+) that they start settling for betabux.
1 Salvador66 2018-03-27
MGTOW already proves this. Why doesn't IT target them, unless they are too scared to get roasted by MGTOW.
1 WhyNotLayDownAndRot 2018-03-27
because mgtow mods actually ban trolls
1 Madeon929 2018-03-27
What a novel idea..... banning cucks and trolls...
1 Idk12344482305 2018-03-27
Because they can't say "this is why you're a virgin" to a guy who is voluntarily celibate.
1 ItWillBeOverSoonLol 2018-03-27
there are also ugly and or fat roasties posting on IncelTears on how they don't want Chads
Guess what they look like
https://lookism.net/Thread-LOL-Rate-this-Inceltears-poster-that-is-tracking-incels
1 Toolman890 2018-03-27
'heeeeelp meeeee'
proves the diff between us and them is we have higher testosterone. i don't know how tho cause im a framecel but rage and wanting to enslave all women requires testosterone so i must have it. i can see the difference between how normie males post and how guys post on here. i can sense the test difference.
1 not_good_looking 2018-03-27
That’s why incels have better humour and wittiness. Humour and wittiness is most probably test related too.
1 GameDoesntStop 2018-03-27
LMAO
1 DankIncel 2018-03-27
t.
1 BF8211 2018-03-27
Lol
1 gufestus2 2018-03-27
See kiddo. There's nothing wrong with girls always going for the Chad type and you should accept your place as an ugly scum and just accept it. And if you don't you're a misogynistic creepy piece of shit who fantasies about raping women, you sick fuck.
1 still_a_prodigy 2018-03-27
JFL if you ask for advice on a sub that has censorship
1 Throwaway1337145317 2018-03-27
Their advice is always the same recycled garbage. Something about the way it's written (perhaps the needless capitalization of full words and rehashing of truisms like step 4) gives it a very condescending vibe.
Nice flair btw
1 MomentaryMadness 2018-03-27
It's actually pretty fuckin weird but they're all starting to sound and look the same to me. Same haircuts, same clothing, same views, same everything. They're like a giant hive mind stark trek borg shit, varying only slightly in shape and body. Their archetypes are so simple and easy to read it's embarrassing.
1 Throwaway1337145317 2018-03-27
CuckTears advice: Just duck your head in the sand.
Little do they know black pills come in suppositories.
1 Moist___ 2018-03-27
Kek
1 Draken3000 2018-03-27
Where can i read this “he knows” greentext?
1 Incelvester 2018-03-27
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/dont-worry-he-knows
You're gonna regret reading it
1 IronMeltsinmyHands 2018-03-27
So the bitch basically made the beta male MC into a comfort tampon, and then is fucking the oldfag as his main squeeze.
1 jotaro_kuj0 2018-03-27
All bow before the mighty black pill sooner or later.
1 shockinghillaryquote 2018-03-27
Why are Normies soooo fucking stupid? So dense? So in denial?
This scenario is very common. Take three dudes, all great personalities, and bring a chick into the mix -- she will almost ALWAYS go for the best-looking guy. Always.
Thots don't think, care, or quantify anything when it comes to men OTHER THAN LOOKS.
There are RARE exceptions. Rare.
Thots are just like men visually, but with much higher standards and want nothing to do with guys below an 8.
Men will fuck women who are 3s, and often be attracted to women who are 5s.
This is reality, those denying it are insufferable morons.
1 throwaway-637 2018-03-27
What kind of world do you live in? Do you think a chad will go for a 3 or 5?
1 Throwaway1337145317 2018-03-27
I would ask that you refrain from spreading misinformation and generalizing incels. I have seen incels cop to wanting a girl at any level of looks over a hundred times (in the literal sense). The ONLY deal-breaker for some is being a moderately healthy weight. Obesity is a lifestyle choice, not something forced upon you. Can they not have that single standard or is even that too much? Guess they should just take whoever comes knocking right?
I'm personally of the opinion that looks don't determine worth. So no, I won't stick with my "looksmatch". I'll date a girl I like if she'll have me whether she's a 1 or a 10.
1 throwaway-637 2018-03-27
I'm sorry, I just can't believe a man would date someone who he genuinely thinks is a 1/10. I think sexual attraction is really important for men.
I'm not saying they shouldn't have any standards. But I kinda think both men and women shouldn't complain that they can't find anyone, when they only want an attractive partner, and won't give anyone who isn't a chance. Then you shouldn't really complain either. Some incels are like that though.
What do you mean you won't stick to your looksmatch?
1 Throwaway1337145317 2018-03-27
The statement implies people must pair up with someone of equivalent attractiveness, as if some kind of hierarchy exists (the modern day "rich can't marry poor). So much goes into relationships than looks, it's about achieving a emotional bond with a person that transcends the physical.
I would date a 1. I don't have low libido but sex is honestly not even on the same spectrum as love for me. I could go my whole life without having it again (escortcel) as long as I had affection. Anything short of legitimate deformity (I asked myself if I could date a deformed girl, and honestly I'm not sure I'm that strong yet) is fine with me. Proper hygiene and lifestyle habits are a must though. Anything you can't control is fine, but anything you can is reflective of your personality.
And yes, some incels have high standards. We have a name for them here: volcel.
1 throwaway-637 2018-03-27
I absolutely agree with everything you said.
I didn't know a man would ever think like that tbh, lol.
Thanks for clarifying.
1 Throwaway1337145317 2018-03-27
No problem. Thanks for hearing me out.
1 still_a_prodigy 2018-03-27
sex != date
ugly women can get laid by really hot dudes. it doesn't mean those guys are going to date them.
1 still_a_prodigy 2018-03-27
chads will fuck 3 and 5s all day. you're delusional. guys aren't picky the way women are. we enjoy sex. and we're willing to give a woman a shot even if she's not that attractive.
1 throwaway-637 2018-03-27
Well I genuinely believed the opposite was the case. I thought guys had to be sexually attracted as well.
1 Madeon929 2018-03-27
I would have told him to come here but, I’m still banned. BLACKPILL is beginning and the end
1 chadbhava 2018-03-27
Your cope level is only 5
1 FEDORA_GOD 2018-03-27
asking for advice on a sub that advocates suicide for people like you
i would find it funny if i was a sadder person
1 IncelSlayerZero 2018-03-27
Real world experience proves us right, eh? Couldn't be! SWALLOW THE BLACK PILL
1 PhucCheet 2018-03-27
JFL at r/IncelTears
1 AndySambergsPants 2018-03-27
Where does it say we have a concentrated effort to white pill normies? We're just sitting about having a laugh.
1 GeneticCleansing 2018-03-27
cope
1 Idk12344482305 2018-03-27
U
1 MozzerDozzer 2018-03-27
Careful, you might stop being a productive mod at IT altogether. Just admit you love this place too much, don't you Andy-boo?
1 not_good_looking 2018-03-27
Lol the tragedy here is you don’t realise the laughs are actually directed at you
1 gufestus2 2018-03-27
Should've told it to the poor guy who went there asking for advice that you weren't interested in helping him and only wanted to mock him.
1 AndySambergsPants 2018-03-27
It's right there in the sidebar, genius. I can't make that much clearer, except we did. Every time someone submits something:
1 gufestus2 2018-03-27
Except you guys did pretend to help him. Poor guy. Gonna be so disappointed.
1 IncelSlayerZero 2018-03-27
My advice to this kid is to bend over, take it up the ass gracefully, and get used to it lol. It's not going to get better no matter how much you RESPEK wymyn or how much you see them as HOOMAN.
1 Mypugsanazi 2018-03-27
The cringiest part was where he said that he'd been "working on" her. Like wtf you're not getting more attractive by literally spending months "improving" for some girl. Move on.
1 IncelSlayerZero 2018-03-27
Too many guys playing the friend zone game, just doesn't work. Ask her out right away and get that rejection out of the way lol and move on to the next rejection.
1 Mypugsanazi 2018-03-27
Tbf asking her out right away is also not good. There needs to be a some time where you need to get to know her, and casually ask her out. If her response is positive, then you've got yourself a date.
Speaking from experience.
1 IncelSlayerZero 2018-03-27
I'll ask out a girl online by the second day of talking. How long are we talking here? Although I agree the guy should hang out with her two or three times and then ask. Not a half year lmao
1 Mypugsanazi 2018-03-27
I'm not talking about online I'm talking irl. I think you should wait atleast a week or two, if you talk every day or so.
1 IncelSlayerZero 2018-03-27
Well I'll defer to your judgment because I hate approaching IRL.
1 Mypugsanazi 2018-03-27
Really? I mean I obviously don't literally "ask" them irl but building some connection is a must. I don't use that retarded PUA TRP shit but try to be appealing. Once you've got their number ask them out casually by text and set up a meeting place. I usually go out to parks since I don't have much money to spend on fancy dinners and shit.
1 IncelSlayerZero 2018-03-27
Yeah I hate it because it can be awkward and potentially harsh. Also, I'll get false yes' IRL, that doesn't happen online, they just ignore you.
1 Mypugsanazi 2018-03-27
Yup. It's gonna be Hella awkward if you say "I like you. Will you go out with me?".
Most certainly setting up yourself for a rejection. Fuck that.
1 IncelSlayerZero 2018-03-27
I'd never say that lol, I'd just tell them I'd love to take them out sometime.
1 BICHIAMUP 2018-03-27
Lol at the replies in here
1 Throwaway1337145317 2018-03-27
Yeah, it's a pretty hilarious thread. The guy in the OP was literally dictated a blackpill in real life, by the girl he likes no less. Can't get anymore brutal than that.
1 sleepingforever1 2018-03-27
I love how there are replies just assuming he needs to go to the gym and get hobbies.
It's deja vu at this point.
1 Moist___ 2018-03-27
Fucking kek, these people can't be serious
1 Nard_dog_19 2018-03-27
I mean, isn't this the perfect example of confirmation bias? A guy shares one example where there's a good chance he came on way too strong ('I try so hard to get with girls I like') and it's an example of how 'all women are the same'? Nahhh this is cherry picking
1 Mypugsanazi 2018-03-27
Both sides cherry pick. But the truth is that looks do matter, and so does personality, but you need to have the bare minimum looks for it to matter. Ugly men with extraordinary personalities rarely get genuine relationships.
1 Nard_dog_19 2018-03-27
They could, if they went for other ugly women who also have extraordinary personalities. However, if you sulk about how much your live sucks on braincels, I can guarantee you don't have an extraordinary personality and constantly reek of negativity.
1 Mypugsanazi 2018-03-27
Unfortunately, ugly women have it easier because guys are more desperate. If you can get a good looking guy with a great personality, why go for the ugly one?
1 Nard_dog_19 2018-03-27
Find an ugly girl hitting her 30s and you'll see some real desperation
1 ItWillBeOverSoonLol 2018-03-27
kill youreslf PLEASE
1 Shazig 2018-03-27
All women are the same or else incels would not exist.
1 Nard_dog_19 2018-03-27
Hahahaha that is some logic stretch right there. Incels exist bc they CHOSE to compliment their bad looks with a terrible, self-loathing personality. If you dont bring anything to the table or respect yourself, why would any woman, no matter how ugly, want to be around you?
Unfortunately being ugly, in many cases, is not a choice. But being an Incel, IS a choice.
1 Shazig 2018-03-27
Nope. No incel is born hating women, incelism is a result of a lifetime of being rejected over something you can't control.
You're pretty much saying that incels are in a giant conspiracy to make their own lives as miserable as humanly possible for no reason at all.
1 Nard_dog_19 2018-03-27
I am. It's much easier to feel sorry for yourself and validate your choice with a bunch of strangers on the internet, than to put in the hard work and become a better version of yourself people will want to be around and possibly wanna date. It's not a conspiracy, it's human nature. Missory loves company.
1 Shazig 2018-03-27
What exactly did incels choose to do? Be born ugly?
1 Nard_dog_19 2018-03-27
You're not listening. I didn't say incels chose to be born ugly. Read my comments bc I don't feel like repeating myself
1 Shazig 2018-03-27
What hard work are incels supposed to do?
Weren't average people getting laid all the time? Why do we have to workout?
1 Nard_dog_19 2018-03-27
When I grew up in the 90s, kids were actually taught life isnt fair. So im not saying it is for incels. It's not fair, you were dealt a shitty hand. Your far behind and I believe it's achievable. For me I realized I was good at sports. Atleast as a skill, even tho I was small and weak. So I played baseball (2nd base), wrestling (compete by weight), and basketball (shooting guard). I rarely worked out so I was skinny with a spare tire. In college I played club sports so I was always around people, building my social network. I focused on self awareness. Knowing my strengths and playing to them. Focused on leaving a positive impact with everyone. Sometimes people were dicks and I brushed it off, didn't let them phase me or look weak. I still battled depression when it didn't work out with women, but I always showed a positive attitude, and it's crazy how well people can sense that.
After college I kept my close friends, and continued to work on myself. Didn't work out until my late 20s, and it helped with my confidence, which is wildly important to how people percieve you. My network was so big by the time I hit my late 20s that I'd always find a friend or aquaitence when I was out. Women picked up on that energy and want to be around it, even if they didn't realize it. I started getting laid around this time and I used it to boost my confidence. I legit faked it until I made it. Had a few serious gfs and am currently with a woman who's out of my league. See I learned hitting on a woman was never going to work for me. I gave up on it and let my personality do the talking. I was positive, fun, interested in other people, and didn't try to fuck women just bc they were nice to me. My current gf was part of our friends group, and learned to like me after seeing how fun I was.
Ofcourse 'Chads' don't have to do all this work, but I do. It's not fair, but that's how it is. So I worked for it. He may be having fun but I know he doesn't appreciate getting laid and finding happiness like I do. They never had to work for it. I realize some of this might come off smug but Im writting this all from my phone and if that's the tone I'm giving off, I promise it's not on purpose. The point is it can be done. Choosing to feel sorry for yourself is an easy way out. But working for it is worth it a hundred times over. If anyone wants to chat feel free to PM me.
1 Shazig 2018-03-27
No shit, life isn't fair. I'm curious, why do you never tell female rape victims that life is not fair? Why is it always the people with whom you disagree that should just suck it up and ignore decades of oppression? Why do you never expect women to rise above their circumstances?
I see you're a Trump supporter. Do you think people react predictably to their environment? Do you really think that incels just have to work harder to achieve the same as Chads? That's all there is to it?
1 Nard_dog_19 2018-03-27
Not going to talk about female rape victims or other oppressed people because I don't know what their struggle is like. I'm only responding to the struggle I've personally experienced. I'm not a trump supporter, you probably didn't read my comments in context. But to answer your question yes Incels have to work harder, but I'm not saying they will be Chads. By working hard incels can definitely achieve some success with women. And if that is what brings them happiness, it is very possible.
1 Shazig 2018-03-27
You don't know what it's like to be incel either.
Let me ask you a question. Does an incel have a moral obligation to help a woman being raped?
But why do you expect incels to rise above their circumstances when even at their absolute best efforts they will still not get as much female attention as Chad does. How can you even deny that our society oppresses incels at this point?
1 Nard_dog_19 2018-03-27
Honestly man your bringing up questions that have nothing to do with what I'm talking about and getting in a debate with you about it isn't going to solve anything.
To repeat myself, I'm not saying incels can be like Chad's if they work on it, or aren't treated poorly. My point is with the right attitude direction and persistence, a level of success can be achieved. Also happiness is a subjective.. so for example, if getting as much female attention as Chad is the only thing that will make you happy, then you won't ever be happy. But if it's something like improving yourself in an effort to feel better, improve your mental health, and potentially find a woman who loves you, then yes happiness is very possible. If you have to, please reread my comments and try to understand what I'm saying.
1 Involuntarily 2018-03-27
Blackpilled normie. Good to have you onboard.
1 Nard_dog_19 2018-03-27
Yes, misinterpret one sentence out of context and call it a 'blackpill'. Get real dude
1 Shazig 2018-03-27
What is wrong with having a debate? Are you saying that you can't defend your positions if asked to?
1 Nard_dog_19 2018-03-27
I've defended everything I've said so far. You don't want to debate, you want to change the subject matter when I make a point that challenges your ideology, prodding until you find a flaw in what I'm saying so you can jump all over it and discredit everything I've said. if you found out that incels have the opportunity to actually improve their lot in life that reality would be too harsh for you to accept. Im sharing my situation for those who feel hopeless and WANT to improve. If they see similarities in my story to their situation maybe they'll find hope.
1 Shazig 2018-03-27
I'm not trying to change the topic, I'm trying to get down to the root of our disagreements.
The problem is that you expect incels to rise above their circumstances despite being born disadvantaged. You are asking all these things from incels, while women maintain their status are oppressors and nothing is expected from them in return.
1 ScHoolboy_Stu 2018-03-27
Don't compare inceldom to being a rape victim. Being ugly fucking sucks, but you can do stuff to get around it.
The thing you lot don't seem to understand, is most "normies" and "chads" and whatever other stupid fucking internet terms you lot use don't think you can just go to the gym and start slaying.
Here's scenario 1 for an ugly guy, which I bet fits a huge amount of this sub:
ugly kid doesnt have a good time in school cos kids are fucking mean. That really sucks, and I'm sorry so many of you have to go through that.
They end up with low self confidence and hardly any friends, they make friends with other "losers" in their school. The hobbies they take up are isolated and "uncool" like gaming and spending way too much time online.
They fall into dispair and self loathing, and start being quite hateful towards other guys and all women.
Vicious cycle repeats while they think they can't change anything.
Now, here's scenario 2:
Ugly guy starts boxing. Starts lifting weights. Gets stronger, muscular, fitter, and can take care of himself. All attractive qualities.
Makes friends through sport. Spends far less time isolated and on circle-jerk echo chambers like this sub.
His mindset starts getting more positive. Yeah, life's still not the best, but there's hope. Turns out not every Chad/woman is pure evil, who knew? ATTRACTIVE QUALITY.
This guy ends up having stories to tell. Does cool stuff in his life. Has hobbies that improve himself, instead of isolating himself. Looks/is healthy. Is positive, doesn't hate everyone etc. Dresses well. All attractive qualities.
The guy in scenario 1 will be incel for life. The guy in scenario 2 can get a woman, it's just obviously much harder with an ugly face. Looks really matter, but there's far more to attraction than just a face. A face is just the "face" of it, the first thing they see/judge you on. It's not the end of it.
That's why you get told life's unfair. Because you need to understand that, cut back on the self pity and do something about it if you want any kind of change. Doesn't mean people aren't sympathetic that you got dealt a bad hand, the attitude of most people on this sub is what loses the sympathy.
Rape victims being told "life's unfair" helps nothing.
Time to get told how wrong I am and get downvoted to hell....
1 not_good_looking 2018-03-27
The only conspiracy here is how you have been a virgin for 3 decades and still can’t see incels are right.
1 Nard_dog_19 2018-03-27
I'm not. I'm 5'8", bald, with a large nose and I do just fine. I work on myself. I didn't wanna share this info bc I've been here long enough to know I'll just be accused of lying. But I know what its like to be ugly and still make it work. Itd be cool if this comment didn't get so much hate and instead got actual questions, but I highly doubt it'll play out that way. It's unfortunate
1 JustTheCuriousGuy 2018-03-27
As a guy your height - was there ever a time where you felt a disadvantage because you're kinda short?
1 Nard_dog_19 2018-03-27
All the time. Girls typically like taller guys so that limits the dating pool. Nothing worse than being out at the bar and people bumping into you because they assume they physically have the upper hand, and if it pisses you off you all of a sudden have a Napoleon complex. You have to stand up for yourself confidently without getting yourself in trouble and it's tough to balance
1 JustTheCuriousGuy 2018-03-27
But how did not hate women for that?
1 Nard_dog_19 2018-03-27
What?
1 JustTheCuriousGuy 2018-03-27
Sorry but how did you not hate women for that?
1 Nard_dog_19 2018-03-27
Because there a plenty of smaller women (around 5'), where 5'8" is plenty tall enough. Women have their standards and men have theirs. I always reminded myself 'it only has to work once'. It's a numbers game and I played it until it worked. Forced to be playing the numbers game also helped me improve my game so it wasn't necessarily a bad thing
1 not_good_looking 2018-03-27
Chad has a bad personality and still has 100 times more girls than you do basement dweller.
1 Nard_dog_19 2018-03-27
I never said it was fair, I just said it's possible to overcome
1 Involuntarily 2018-03-27
1 commander_zoidberg 2018-03-27
Why would a woman want to be with her looksmatch when she can be Chads Thursday evening fuck or get beaten and raped by Tyrone or Jamal? lol
1 Involuntarily 2018-03-27
kek
1 ScHoolboy_Stu 2018-03-27
-uses Korean gamer internet language that I had to Google.
-wonders why he's not seen as cool enough by girls to make up for his looks.
"Top kek".
Spend some time off the internet my man
1 StoopidSeksyFlanders 2018-03-27
HahahahahA!
1 empatheticapathetic 2018-03-27
Everyone does this at least once.
1 FUSIO_SOULS 2018-03-27
He was such a cuck he is probably a 3/10 soy boy
1 commander_zoidberg 2018-03-27
Could be worse. You could have put years into it.
1 AntiAbleism 2018-03-27
More men are waking up to this bullshit.
1 ItWillBeOverSoonLol 2018-03-27
You'd have to be a complete RETARD not to notice this. Even before I knew about "incel" culture or "red pill" this and that I knew this was true and that there was ZERO point in talking to girls unless they seemed openly interested in you. No, no one wants to be friends with girls dumbass roasties, you guys are boring as fuck and have worse personalities than even incel losers, it's the truth. Any guy who is your "friend" just wants to fuck you - is a beta orbiter.
1 ScHoolboy_Stu 2018-03-27
Aaaaaand this is why noone wants to fuck you.
I get laid a lot. I have a lot of female friends, because if you treat them like a human you realise they...shock...have a personality too. Some are even funny (although I will admit guys are normally funnier, and most girls I know recognise that)
1 ItWillBeOverSoonLol 2018-03-27
This is the problem, you’re over 6’2 and a boxer, you need to fucking kill yourself, I guarantee you are 99% more attractive than most incels. No incel has ever had a girl initiate conversation with him. Fucking retarded low sentience moron.
1 literallyarealperson 2018-03-27
All true. Homeboy really is delusional and needs to observe life more carefully.
1 ScHoolboy_Stu 2018-03-27
Ok firstly buddy, have a quick re-read of your comment. This is why people talk about incels and their personalities. Does that really look like someone that anyone would want to be friends with, let alone date? The amount of anger you have for anyone who isn't exactly the same as you is fucking crazy. Then you insult me calling me retarded etc. when I can pretty much guarantee I'm smarter than you, but that's beside the point.
Yes, I'll admit I got fucking lucky with genetics. 6'4, model til my mid teens, and now I have a good physique cos I work fucking hard for it. So compared to the average incel, I have it really easy and I sympathise.
But although I have lots of male and female friends outside this group, I have a big friendship group back home. This has some really good looking guys, and some fucking ugly ones. Guess what, the girls are friends with them too. They text them, ring them, arrange to meet up etc. Their looks have nothing to do with it, it's because they enjoy eachothers company. Actual humans do that...
I think they have good personalities because they do, not just cos they wanna fuck me or whatever you think. They're smart, funny, they're there for me as a friend if I need them, they'll take the piss out of me and have banter the rest of the time. It's called friendship, and it works for guys and girls.
Also, I worked with someone last summer and became mates. He was 23, a virgin, 5'4ish, shy, 4/10 face. He got laid for the first time by the end of summer thanks to advice/gentle pushing from me and my friend.
It's fucking hard for people with unfortunate genetics. It's not impossible unless you make it impossible for yourself, which is what this sub is all about. Making it impossible.
1 hara-kiri-enthusiast 2018-03-27
Why do you think your opinion is relevant here? You are literally the last person anyone should take seriously here. You don't, and will never see life like us. I don't think you can even imagine, much less understand, about how hard dating is. You say it's hard for the genetically cursed. You don't really understand the depth of that difficulty. So, genuinely, why? Why did you come here? Is it some of kind of sick pleasure? Is it some kind of dumb pity/sympathy? Is the delusional belief that what worked for you will work for us? Seriously, why?
1 ScHoolboy_Stu 2018-03-27
Ok firstly I come here out of some weird curiosity sometimes because of the twisted people on here. Idc if someone's "incel" or not, doesn't change my opinion of the person in the slightest. But some of the stuff I read on here is horrifying and I can't look away, like a car crash. I've never seen this much hate towards everyone and everything.
And idk if you read the comments I was replying to. The only reason I got involved was because of someone who said "roastie cunts can't be friends" "they have no personality" etc. I don't think it's an unachievable task for you lot. You're humans, just like me.
I was replying to a very specific comment. My experience is relevant when it comes to whether "femoids" are human and capable of friendship, cos it's something I see every day. My experience isn't relevant when it comes to the daily life of being incel.
I've known a lot more struggle in my life than you probably think, along with chronic depression and anxiety for years, so while I haven't experienced your particular issue I do sympathise, whether you want it or not. I'm not here to get some "sick pleasure" from other people's suffering.
So nah, I won't fuck off the sub. I'll keep reading, and since advice isn't allowed/accepted I'll stick to occasionally replying to some of the more fucked up/twisted stuff I see
1 LibStealingSpic 2018-03-27
Another role-playing faggot on this sub, it's never enough with you people.
1 ScHoolboy_Stu 2018-03-27
Role playing faggot because....I said I have female friends? To show that it's not all about who wants to fuck who? Right...
1 ScHoolboy_Stu 2018-03-27
Obviously girls think about the hot guys when left to their own devices, same way guys want the hot girls. Not saying whether she would or wouldnt have gone for him if he grew some balls and tried it.
But if you spend months talking with a girl, spending time with her etc but show no sexual interest. Thats how you make a FRIEND, and she'll never see you as anything more.
This guy's pissed off when he's the one that fucked up.
1 still_a_prodigy 2018-03-27
because he was trying to build a relationship and fall in love, not just fuck the chick. we gotta stop lying to young dudes.
1 ScHoolboy_Stu 2018-03-27
Girls rarely fall in love with a guy who hasn't shown any sexual interest, let alone spent time dating them. Life isn't a movie
1 Involuntarily 2018-03-27
Girls rarely fall in love with a guy who
hasn't shown any sexual interestisn't chad, let alone spent time dating them. Life isn't a movie1 ScHoolboy_Stu 2018-03-27
you lot are actually hilarious hahaha
1 Involuntarily 2018-03-27
they'll be labeled rapists
1 ScHoolboy_Stu 2018-03-27
a) I never said that, all I said is slowly making friends with someone over the course of several months isn't how you get a girl, despite what rom-coms tell you
b) don't think you know what rapist means
1 Involuntarily 2018-03-27
a rapist is whenever a girl doesn't like a guy. he doesn't even have to rape her. he can just be a rapist because she says so, in public opinion he will be a rapist.
1 still_a_prodigy 2018-03-27
1 ScHoolboy_Stu 2018-03-27
What did I lie about? You saying life is a movie?
1 still_a_prodigy 2018-03-27
you clearly didn't understand my comment
1 ScHoolboy_Stu 2018-03-27
There's a lot in this sub I don't understand...
1 methaferus 2018-03-27
He's right though if you don't make your intentions clear you're going to get friendzoned
1 Involuntarily 2018-03-27
life of incel
1 commander_zoidberg 2018-03-27
It doesn't matter what sub human males do. The friendzone is all there is.
1 literallyarealperson 2018-03-27
They cannot accept this. They cannot accept how unfair dating is for a growing amount of males, as this reflects poorly on women and proves they are shallow.
1 not_good_looking 2018-03-27
Incels: if you have to “work on a girl” or in anyway make the first move, you have already lost because it means you are sub 8
Inceltears normie: fuck you incel!!!! Reeeeeee!!! What would you know about relationships you have never been in one (so am I but whatever) reeeeee
Later on during the day, inceltears normie: sob sob why do women still reject me even though I work so hard for them?
1 ObsequiousCuck 2018-03-27
Go do the jerk off and quit your whinging.
1 incelrageboner 2018-03-27
Cuck cuck cuck.
Blue pill, black pill, red pill, green pill...
Do you hear yourself?
1 ItWillBeOverSoonLol 2018-03-27
I hear the sounds of millions of blue pilled cucks and beta orbiters reaching enlightenment and joining the cause. Society was the way it was for thousands of years for good reason. It's over for you roasties, and blue pilled cucks.
1 incelrageboner 2018-03-27
Anyone who uses __pilled in an argument has already lost.
That being said, great satire. You're doing these idiots a favor showing the absurdity.
1 ItWillBeOverSoonLol 2018-03-27
Alright, I'll place a $40 on you being an ugly as fuck beta male who has never fucked a hot chick in his life. Another $20 on you going 2+ years without having a "girlfriend", and if you have a girlfriend now, just know that during those 2 years she was having fun, teehee!
Your hostility is because your defending your world view. You want this to so badly not be true. But deep down inside, you know little cuck. lmfao.
1 incelrageboner 2018-03-27
I'm here to enjoy myself. You guys are so easy to rile up which is why you're so much fun.
Do I really come off as hostile?
Anyway, you don't want to take that bet you'd be broke.
When is the last time a woman let you touch her voluntarily? (Not your mom)
1 Involuntarily 2018-03-27
bluepill detected
1 awe300 2018-03-27
Lol. No one who isn't an incel writes words like "normie"
1 GameDoesntStop 2018-03-27
Not true. 'Normie' is a normie meme at this point.
Source: I'm a normie.
1 r4risbullshit 2018-03-27
Nah fam. There are other communities who say this term. Normie isn't an exclusive incel term. It wasn't even started by incels.
...How long have you been on the Internet?
1 awe300 2018-03-27
1995
1 iQ9k 2018-03-27
How's it feel to have porn at your finger tips compared to 1995?
1 awe300 2018-03-27
Pretty incredible. Back then, you had to wait forever for just an image, and porn movies were only shared on LANs, since common Internet was extremely too slow for that..
And the images weren't that great either, I remember seeing my first actually porn image months later, since most you could find was softcore.
Back then you collected good stuff and burned it on CDs.
Today, I can't remember when I didn't just stream..
1 GrinchBear 2018-03-27
And all men want the hot girl with the porn star bod and personality that fits our fantasies to a T.
1 Currycell92 2018-03-27
Most guys want someone around their looks match. Stop bullshitting.
1 GrinchBear 2018-03-27
You're going to tell me, with all honesty, thay if a girl with a perfect 10 body and face asked you to be in a relationship with her, you would tell her no? If so then you're the one bullshitting there friend.
1 Currycell92 2018-03-27
Again, guys are insecure of the attention their femoid partners get. They want someone safe. That's why guys always date down and femoids date up.
1 GrinchBear 2018-03-27
Apparently you never tried to date up. It's actuslly incredibly possible.
1 Moist___ 2018-03-27
With women yes
1 GrinchBear 2018-03-27
It's very possible for men. I'm like...average looking best, am a nihilist (which nobody likes to be around), an oddball in general and I often come home smelling like stir fry after work just to sit in my room and play video games. Yet I've managed to crawl out of my hovel and date good looking and fun to be around girls I genuinely liked having in my life. If I can do it, I promise you can too
1 conductorofpooptrane 2018-03-27
Nihilism is gay af
1 GrinchBear 2018-03-27
It doesn't matter
1 methaferus 2018-03-27
Does it make you feel good to spread lies or are you just this blue pilled?
1 GrinchBear 2018-03-27
I don't know, does it make you feel good to complain about how miserable you are and how it's everyone else's fault in a great big circle her of other people who are just as self loathing as you when you could easily get off your lazy backside and do something to not seem like such a miserable twat?
1 methaferus 2018-03-27
Woah man calm down. I'm not an incel, just a sympathetic red pilled outsider.
1 GrinchBear 2018-03-27
I don't know what the toss these pills are people keep referencing, it sounds like some sort of God awful matrix reference that got twisted and needs to stop.
1 methaferus 2018-03-27
Maybe you should learn about the metaphorical pills before making judgements on them.
1 GrinchBear 2018-03-27
Maybe you should realize I'm judging the comment of spreading lies (dating up being a possibility for men) before jumping to the conclusion I'm spewing on sometjing I know nothing about. I have a dissenting opinion on the incel philosophy, I can argue against it without spending time googling what these various pills mean because the arguments they're often used in against me are pretty self explanatory
1 methaferus 2018-03-27
Whatever you say but maybe just maybe you should look it up anyway so you can avoid looking like a dumbass who doesnt know what he's talking about. Oh what am i saying that is what you are.
1 GrinchBear 2018-03-27
Said the one using metaphorical pills to make a point for him instead of a written argument
1 methaferus 2018-03-27
Just look them up to spare yourself the embarrasment later ffs i'm somewhat trying to help you
1 GrinchBear 2018-03-27
I understand and respect that, even appreciate it because help is something people don't try to give me when I post a dissenting opinion here. It's honestly just not on my list of priorities , between college, work and the new far cry I've got a good chunk omtjings I'd rather do than look up odd Matrix references. Again, appreciate it, and maybe I'll look into it when there's nothing to do, but ..ehhh
1 ItWillBeOverSoonLol 2018-03-27
hahahaha lmfao this is some hardcore normie-just-got-blackpilled rage hahahahahahaha
1 GrinchBear 2018-03-27
Rage implies that you're worth being angry at.
1 ItWillBeOverSoonLol 2018-03-27
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
1 ScHoolboy_Stu 2018-03-27
Good luck trying to tell these guys. They literally have an excuse for everything. Even if you showed them an interview between you and your incredibly hot girlfriend, they'd find a way to "disprove" it.
It's equally impressive and disturbing
1 GrinchBear 2018-03-27
I know, but that's sort of victim culture in a nutshell. If you feel like the victim you'll find a way to always be the victim
1 ScHoolboy_Stu 2018-03-27
I know man, and this forum makes it so much worse for these people.
Somewhere to vent and get support can be healthy, somewhere to post and have hundreds of extremely toxic people all agreeing with eachother about fucked up things is so unhealthy, there's no escaping it for most of these guys
1 GrinchBear 2018-03-27
Sad thing is there's the few that genuinely make the effort and they change for the better. I see all kinds of encouraging messages and comments on those posts, seeing a distinct lack of it everywhere else here is just disappointing
1 ScHoolboy_Stu 2018-03-27
Insecure guys are insecure about the attention their partners get.
When my girls get stared at, it's a positive. If I see someone chatting her up in a bar, I sit behind him and laugh as she tries to politely get him to leave
1 LibStealingSpic 2018-03-27
What a shitty bait question.
1 GrinchBear 2018-03-27
I'm not seeing a "No" there, just an attempt to dodge a simple question.
1 niceoleader 2018-03-27
JFL @ this low IQ roastie. Tell us more about how men only want the hot girl witht he porn star bod
1 GrinchBear 2018-03-27
Just look at this sexless ponce assuming because I don't agree with this opinion , that I'm automatically a woman. Well congratulations you made an argument that doesn't disprove what I said, you could easily say that graph is determined by the parameters people put in their match filter (which the site lets you do) and argue that the numbers are skewed by guys on the site lowballing themselves by lowering their standards. But I'll continue to tell you more about how men like physically attractive women because it's something human beings in general tend to like. Physical aesthetic is something our mind finds pleasing to look at, be it in art, architecture, nature or other people. If you watch porn I don't think for a second you're watching a woman getting screwed and thinking about how great her personality is, you're thinking about how hot she is and how you'd like to be screwing her instead of the guys being paid to. Also if you're going to post a graph maybe post a link to the paper that goes along with it, because I don't know if it's because I haven't eaten since breakfast or that I got off work not long ago, but that looks vague as all hell.
1 niceoleader 2018-03-27
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch. I’ll have you know my name is John, and I woke up this morning 5:30 sharp to the smell of wet pussy. I was getting a blowjob from two bitches (Shit was SO Cash), one was trying to fit my humongous 3 pound balls in her mouth while the other was choking halfway on my 18 and 3\8 inch dick. She started to squirt hard, she was convulsing and having 6 orgasms at the same time. I gave it to them and they were on the floor squirting like motherfucking fountains. Must have come about a quart of sperm and compressed air. Imagine your best orgasm, then multiply it by 35. I had to go to base camp so I front-flipped from my 14th floor barracks into my valet parked 2012 Ferrari (I got connexions). Pushed my shit to about 4 hundo (mph, mind you) and I was at base camp in no time. When I entered, I became a top sniper and was granted access to the entire arsenal of the USMC. I learned how to kill someone in over 700 different ways and was assigned to be the leader of a squad that will kill 300 terrorists using gorilla warfare tactics. Also did 6000 push-ups, 8000 sit-ups and bench-pressed 30 plates in 16 minutes. After basic training, I met a network of secret spies who will help me trace your IP address, while eating gold plated sushi and 15,000 $ champagne. My unit got the rest of the day off and I became captain of our base’s football team and starter of the basketball team. I got straight A’s on the military entrance exams and received more awards. Meanwhile, you were jacking off to pictures on Facebook and naked drawn Japanese people. Went back in the Lambo to my barracks and now I am getting ready to go to sleep. I am going to graduate at the top of my class in the Navy Seals tomorrow and I want to look pretty much perfect for it. Don’t be a stranger and remember, I did more in one day than you will your entire life.
1 GrinchBear 2018-03-27
That's a lovely story that's undoubtedly a lie pulled from the depths of your ass, honestly I've seen better material in youtube comments and twitter posts by soulja boy. But to answer you, you know exactly what I wrote you unkempt neckbeard with eyes, you can obviously read, but apparently you can't write worth a cancerous dick. Holy fuck, sweet mother of Ron Swanson's glorious 'stache, reading that shit made me pray for glaucoma. You've got all the literary nuance of a syphilitic gibbon and clearly no knowledge of how the human body actually functions, or what pussy actuslly smells like since you were likely smelling the spunk leftover from last night's vigorous wank. In short, learn to write and troll better you fuckin' spoon.
1 xtsv 2018-03-27
Imagine being so autistic that you have to call out an obvious pasta.
Wew lad.
1 justforlulzandkeks 2018-03-27
Normies aren't sending their best
1 r4risbullshit 2018-03-27
It's because they are all sheltered fucks who are clearly Internet newbs.
1 DrFeel_MD_PHD_NOGF 2018-03-27
An embarrassing reply
1 hara-kiri-enthusiast 2018-03-27
Lmao this is just pathetic. Falling for one of the oldest copypastas on the web.
1 GrinchBear 2018-03-27
The irony in being called pathetic by someone with an edgelord name who hates women because they can't get laid.
1 hara-kiri-enthusiast 2018-03-27
Where did I say I hate women?
1 Ironcrusher38 2018-03-27
Porn star women are filthy, used up cunts.
1 GrinchBear 2018-03-27
Like you'd know, being an incel incapable of being with a woman.
1 Ironcrusher38 2018-03-27
I don't care, I'm a volcel. I would not fuck a used up whore. Understand this you fucking foid.
1 GrinchBear 2018-03-27
Incel,volcel, it doesn't really matter, none of it matters. You're all just the same kind of hateful mite that are very easy to understand. Also I don't know what a foid is, I assume you're calling me a woman (short for femoid?)
1 pm_me_yr_feline 2018-03-27
The point of "Chads" is that women want to fuck hot men. ...isn't the point of this sub that you dudes want to fuck hot women? I literally don't understand.
1 niceoleader 2018-03-27
Uh... NO. Literally lurk more. You don't know a single thing about incels if you think we're only going after 10/10s. ALL women are rejecting us because we're subhuman and because of hypergamy.
1 pm_me_yr_feline 2018-03-27
I'm not saying you'll only date 10/10, but you'd want to fuck a 10/10.
1 niceoleader 2018-03-27
Wanting to fuck an 10/10 and actively pursing a 10/10 are two completely different things. Do you honestly think any of us are wasting our time going after stacys? lmao.
On the contrary, women are regularly pushing aside all other men in favor of chads. ALL women are like this, even the ones who are ugly or average at best.
Women are completely delusional and demanding. Us incels are realistic and try to go for women who are below average/average.
1 pm_me_yr_feline 2018-03-27
Was she actively perusing him?
74% of women are married by age 35. If only 10% of men are 10s, who are they marrying?
1 niceoleader 2018-03-27
She might not have been pursing that chad in particular but she was clearly pursing chads, period. She clearly expressed the type of man she likes.
Yeah sure, by the time she's 30 :)
which brings me to my next point:
Once they hit the wall at age 30 and their looks are nowhere near as good as in their 20s, then they settle for a normie/betabux.
1 pm_me_yr_feline 2018-03-27
If she's shy and ~18, there's a good chance she's not pursuing anyone. I wasn't.
Bullshit.
Isn't this your answer? Just date older women. 30 definitely isn't crone age.
1 niceoleader 2018-03-27
As i already said, even if she wasn't actively pursing chads she clearly only wants chads. that means normies and subhumans are fucked.
Not bullshit. tons and tons of women admit in their 20s they are incredibly shallow and only once their looks fade dot hey suddenly start caring about personality.
no one wants to be a betabux.
1 Rubissrox 2018-03-27
Sounds better then being a generalizing , bitter virgin with suicidal tendencies.
1 Mest666 2018-03-27
if you try to find average woman, it's already fucking over
1 Slowslugsoup 2018-03-27
You're deluded. If a woman isn't attracted to you it makes them in no way a bad person. If a gay guy, or a hugely fat girl was nice to you and flirted with you does it make you a bad person to turn them down? Of course not. Start accepting reality. Whining all day about how girls don't find you attractive is likely one of your many list of flaws that result in you not getting laid.
1 niceoleader 2018-03-27
uh who said she's a bad person? stop strawmanning.
how about YOU start accepting reality that looks are extremely important to women? that's the entire point of this post and you're putting words into my mouth and saying i called her a bad person for not going out with that guy. Take your impotent rage elsewhere.
1 Slowslugsoup 2018-03-27
It looks like you're the one with a problem accepting reality. The rest of the world already realised looks are important, it's never been a secret, how are you guys only just figuring it out? What normal functional people do when they have a problem is deal with it, or accept it and move on, what they don't do is sit on an internet forum crying about it all day like absolute pussies. You are the definition of the word pathetic.
1 Mest666 2018-03-27
Personally I think chasing non beautiful femoids is sign of being total loser
1 IncelSlayerZero 2018-03-27
More than one person said that my oneitis was ugly... So no, no, you fucking retard.
1 iQ9k 2018-03-27
I would be with a 0/10 so you're wrong
1 literallyarealperson 2018-03-27
He'll finish school, remain a virgin until some dumb bitch decides she's ready to settle for betabux because a cpl of her Facebook friends got married last year. He will then delude himself that she really loves him, because feelings, until his wife divorces him for irreconcilable differences and takes half his shit. Then he will sign up for mgtow, secretly wishing a woman could love him the entire time he reads the forum.
1 Salvador66 2018-03-27
MGTOW already proves this. Why doesn't IT target them, unless they are too scared to get roasted by MGTOW.
1 Moist___ 2018-03-27
Kek
1 still_a_prodigy 2018-03-27
because he was trying to build a relationship and fall in love, not just fuck the chick. we gotta stop lying to young dudes.
1 Moist___ 2018-03-27
With women yes
1 methaferus 2018-03-27
Does it make you feel good to spread lies or are you just this blue pilled?
1 methaferus 2018-03-27
He's right though if you don't make your intentions clear you're going to get friendzoned
1 ItWillBeOverSoonLol 2018-03-27
there are also ugly and or fat roasties posting on IncelTears on how they don't want Chads
Guess what they look like
https://lookism.net/Thread-LOL-Rate-this-Inceltears-poster-that-is-tracking-incels
1 commander_zoidberg 2018-03-27
It doesn't matter what sub human males do. The friendzone is all there is.
1 throwaway-637 2018-03-27
Well I genuinely believed the opposite was the case. I thought guys had to be sexually attracted as well.
1 niceoleader 2018-03-27
Wanting to fuck an 10/10 and actively pursing a 10/10 are two completely different things. Do you honestly think any of us are wasting our time going after stacys? lmao.
On the contrary, women are regularly pushing aside all other men in favor of chads. ALL women are like this, even the ones who are ugly or average at best.
Women are completely delusional and demanding. Us incels are realistic and try to go for women who are below average/average.
1 ScHoolboy_Stu 2018-03-27
Good luck trying to tell these guys. They literally have an excuse for everything. Even if you showed them an interview between you and your incredibly hot girlfriend, they'd find a way to "disprove" it.
It's equally impressive and disturbing
1 iQ9k 2018-03-27
How's it feel to have porn at your finger tips compared to 1995?