What if you already have face frame and height but are fat? Is gymcelling still cope then?

No. It means you’re a volcel

It's so fucking hard to lose weight tho

so fucking hard to lose weight

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I just lost 100. The question is how bad do you want that pussy and are you man enough to make it happen? Start now, every moment being fat is a waste of life.

Yesss! Great work!

just stop pigging down and exercise. it's easy.

Not really, I used to be quite chunky & started tracking calories and hitting the gym and I'm no longer fat. It may be hard to get up and go to the gym or to not eat that bag of candy/chips/energy drinks etc, but it's fairly easy to lose weight. Put in less calories then you expend. That's literally it. Hit the gym.

we should cull fakecels in the middle of the street.

Stop complaining about shit you can change, you tub of lard. Just eat less, you don't have to even work out.

meh, imho you're a volcel if you are not ok with losing virginity to a prositute.

Date me

Chad's RAW, VIRILE POWER

This is reminding me of the end of Highlander.

damn people still go to 4chan? that feels so ancient.

anyways yes, redpill is a massive, massive cope. why tf would you spend all that time reading about redpill bullshit when chad is out not thinking about anything and banging stacys left and right? redpill = cuck pill

I am still yet to find something funnier than its YLYL threads. Sturgeon's law applies, though, of course.

Why would a sane person want to screw a woman who has been used by multiple women. Saving the best for last? Kek.

you don't want a chick who's never had sex before

why? lol?

For the same reason you don't want a male virgin. They have no idea how to make it nice for someone else, barely themselves, they have no clue what they are doing, they may be single for a reason, and virgin sex is just awkward.

U learn, how did those fems got so good in bed?

By being less awkward every time they tried.

Exactly, u learn.

she'll be anxious and awkward. she won't know what to do. she won't be good at it.

women just have to lie there. lol at won't be good at it.

ok virgin

ok woman that just lies there

women just have to lie there.

That is wrong lol. Women who just lay there during sex are shitty sex partners.

nah just need a young wet vagina I don't need the girl on top hopping on my dick, the man does all the work

LOL No they don't. Both women and men can be starfishes, but wtf is the point of that? Nobody would be having fun then.

Have you even watched porn ever?

I just want sex, I don't care who it's with...

Cause of the experience in pleasing men. Knowing what to do so you cum well and don't get a bent dick.

r/theredpill is a cope

look at me or u/dontcomplain1. mental and autistcels yet we have girls DM'ing us CUZ OF FACE/RACE/HEIGHT.

For real, I don't know how people can be so delusional. In all but the most exeptional cases, looks matter a whole lot, more than anything else.

rep pill is roleplaying, it can be fun to pretend to be an alpha on the internet. similar to how I like to play GTA and go on rampages.

It's fantasy roleplay for beta cucks who think they can get girls if they change their personality and run "bad boy" game lol fucking cuckfest central.

MGTOW are incels who think they went their "own way" by their choice Redpill is actual betas who think gymcelling fixes everything from bill to social anxiety to becoming gigachad

this is the only sub on reddit where people are being real

Self Improvement is masturbation

Now self destruction

is noFap.

Good post. I think some people fool themselves that they can actually enter into TRP and not be born into it. It's true that with some work on an already good frame, it's possible to become a chad, but that is not the standard. Some of the uglier dudes will definitely have a more difficult time spinning plates if any at all. And if you enter into TRP thinking that success and money are the reasons for pussy, you're probably a beta ready to provide.

the entire redpill community is just a bunch of loser trash trying to convince themselves they are alpha males

The only difference between them and Chads is that Chads tend to be 8/10, wile red pills tend to be 6/10

First paragraph is true, second paragraph is doubtful

it's not. that's how beta those fuckers are. they literally pay to go to strip clubs so they can practice talking to women and not buying lap dances. there's literally nothing i could do to be that beta.

The community is only good for being exposed to the true nature of the way things work and being encouraged to improve yourself.

Those who participate in the community itself generally try really hard to be LE ALPHA AF and make a full of themselves. I went in the discord and cringed when people started posting pics of themselves, claiming their are plating Stacy 9.5 and Tracy 8.7.

Even if it's true(likely), doesn't mean what they're saying is wrong.

It's easier to pick up chicks when you're older (women wall, men don't, etc.) but I'd say the "peak" for guys is around 25. That's when your test really starts to head south as you move toward your 30s.

If you lift all throughout your 20s though you can shove the male wall off till your 40s.

One can make a stronger case for 30 than 20 IMO, but yeah 25 is probably the most accurate.

low testosterone causes baldness and that can happen to a guy even when he is a teenager, whereas a man still might have a full head of hair deep into his 30s, 40s and beyond, if he has the genetics required for high testosterone. The age depends but definitely it starts to slide for most men by 25

What? No. LMFAO. High testosterone causes baldness
https://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/hereditary-patterned-baldness
More specifically, testosterone into DHT conversion.

This sub never ceases to amaze me :')

that's false and I bet that study says low test causes it like the medical community all agrees tho I ain't paying to read it

What study? DHT conversion causes baldness, that's a scientific fact. Every single source available online and offline agrees
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=balding+and+testosterone
moroncel

nice logic. guys with high testosterone are at a higher risk of losing it since they have it?

read your own google found links

from first link https://www.askmen.com/fashion/fashiontip_100/116_fashion_advice.html

Theories abound regarding the exact etiology of hair loss among men. But even the average Joe seems to acknowledge that there is a relationship between testosterone and male pattern baldness, the condition that affects some 30% of men by age 30 and 50% by age 50. The most common misunderstanding, however, is that hair loss is due to high levels of testosterone, an assumption that is often repackaged into the silver-lined “bald men are more virile.” Testosterone is responsible for all sorts of things, such as maintaining muscle mass, energy levels and, (in)famously, libido… but excess levels don’t actually have an impact on hair loss or thinning.

First I like how you completely ignore the fact that there is no connection between low testosterone and balding, whatsoever, and quickly jumped to debunk that high testosterone is also not what directly causes men to go bald.

Secondly there are links to high testosterone levels putting men at risk of balding for various reasons, and high testosterone is generally associated with premature balding, even sociologically. I already explained that it's in the DHT conversion and that it doesn't happen directly
your original assumption is just wrong. Low testosterone is associated with a full head of hair.
Whether you go bald or not it's due to your genetics which are responsible for how sensitive your follicle is to DHT, which is a steroid subproduct of testosterone

Lots of men who undergo sex change by hormone therapy and lower their testosterone levels regrow their hair.

it does matter in that low testosterone leads to balding but it is just funny you didn't read your own links which contradicted the myth you believed in. lesson learned.

It does matter because it makes you look stupid. My own links, which is a link to google.com, vary on the impact high testosterone has on the amount of DHT and body response/sensitivity. It's not set in stone. What is set in stone is that low testosterone usually means full head of hair. get cucked

insults prove me right. you have links from google you didn't even read lol.

I did read some of them, obviously I didn't read the entire internet. anyway get cucked lol. "low testosterone causes men to go bald" lol uve been immortalized. You will look back at this moment for years to come and cringe.

show a link that proves your moth then, which one did you actually read?

there is no scientific proof, the studies have shown it doesn't. but there's still a discussion taking place. Just like there isn't a cure for baldness and finasteride is still not very effective.
it doesn't directly cause, for the millionth time DHT causes it. instead of thanking me for teaching you this you are acting rude. I think I'm gonna have to cuck you again the next time we meet

like you know how some men can't grow a beard, or it comes in patchy. low testosterone. studies have shown men with premature balding have low testosterone. it's a no brainier really.

Lol

Well it's quite telling that the only men that prevents balding is a test blocker. And it works really well.

this is like why do women go bald less often than men. it's not the low testosterone they have it's the estrogen they do have. not worth it for a man.

what causes baldness is your T levels start to go down which signals to your body to start balding

No, that's complete bullshit. Testosterone conversion to DHT hormone is what causes male baldness. How your body reacts and how receptive to DHT your hair follicles are is going to either make you go bald or keep your hair. It's entirely genetics.
Low testosterone is linked with lower chances of going bald, hence why as a part of MTF hormonal therapy after lowering testosterone levels the hair starts to regrow.

fair enough

retardcel alert

What the other guy says, but also, a beginning baldness is not catastrophic. Anecdote: The hottest girl I ever slept with, I did by shaving off all my hair since she was obviously into that. It worked.

just shave your head bro

Jason statham pic

Yeah exactly, I know many girls who are into Stat-lites, you can even be an ugly gymcel like Vin Diesel and still score the occasional chick.

women wall, men don't

Cope. Unless you're blessed by nature and look extremely young (think Jared Leto) being in the DILF niche is the best you can hope for in your 30's-40's. I mean it's better than nothing but let's not pretend that men age better than women or that women don't prefer younger guys.

I prefer older guys though

I'm just saying it's a niche, not a general rule.

Both men and women can put off the wall through exercise (especially weight lifting). If you consider TRT to be cheating you're right, everyone crashes eventually.

I mean it's better than nothing but let's not pretend that men age better than women or that women don't prefer younger guys.

Preference is actually pretty much their own age until you get to the 40's

What if you start lifting at 26?

Then you can still shove it off, you just should've started sooner.

The best day to start is always yesterday.

What if I started lifting at 18 and continue?

Then you'll do even better.

Exercising releases testosterone. In men, this translates to increased height (especially before you hit 21/22, the cutoff age for growth), more well defined jaw and more generally masculine features.

sounds fine to me, albeit test making me angrier

It doesn't make you angry, it makes you passionate.

Channel it into lifting or something else that's productive.

I just did this and I feel awesome

But more test also means more baldness.

Nowadays there are many hair loss solutions, I wouldn't worry about it.

We could gymcel together. Too bad you ghosted me.

what

Roastie always ghostie.

If you're not a troll: i'm not even female

You catfished me.

Then you probably know what people feel like when incels catfish them

"Women look best at 16"... um.

Peak of youth is probably what he meant But also surprising 16 year olds are sentient beings too

a fact

Lol, yeah I’d say more like 18-19 not 16....

Lol, yeah I’d say more like 18-19 not 16....

You say that because it is the safe answer because it is probably the age of adulthood/consent in your country. Most women peak 14-16, historically the range for when women were considered adults and married off, and most are lucky to just maintain to 18-19.

Lol age of consent is 16 where I live, I just don’t think adolescent girls are attractive but ok.

Lol age of consent is 16 where I live, I just don’t think adolescent girls are attractive but ok.

Liar, as if you could distinguish between many of them without asking or being informed of their ages.

Women peak between 16 and 22. Men peak between 20 and 30.

whats wrong with that?

Youre right, that's too high.

Except data shows women are on average most attracted to men their age.

you're full of shit

more than half of all marriages are between a woman and a guy who's older than her. while 1 in 3 marriages is between people the same age.

Hmm that's funny, my data indicates a high level of autism from you

Chad always wins

It's amusing that you all somehow accept what another incel writes about women as true.

If he really was that "enlightened", would he still live in involuntarily celibacy?

not everyone who is blackpilled is incel

fun fact of the day

Here's a blackpill: the women I date spent their youths fucking Chads. They only gained interest in me when I hit late 20s, for my beta bux and because their friends were all settling down. They failed to marry a hot guy, so they started looking at guys like me. They never would have before.

But even now, when they date me, they are disinterested and clearly more attracted to Chads, and they ditch me for a hotter guy when one comes along.

My only choices: cuck life, MGTOW, or rope.

Read the last sentence. Height, face and frame. This is essentially the break down of the blackpill at its core. Looks are everything.

Literally no one but incels talks about 'black pills'

Well that's up to you to believe, then though it's wrong.

This is the harsh blackpill that I needed to fuel today's hate filled workout.

Ignore the gymcel meme. Continue to lift.

Continue to cope

How is lifting a cope?

Yes lift but for yourself not for women. Lifting will not get you women despite what coping redpill losers say, excersize for your own personal mental and physical health and don't expect to get roasties from doing it.

Couldn't agree more. If you're lifting to get women, you're doing it wrong.

Cope. The only reason you lift is to attract women. Would you still lift if it had no effect on your appearance?

Lol nope.
Anyone who thinks women around 30 years old can easily get young Chads is delusional. Guys don't just fuck anything that moves if they have options.
Those middle aged hags are seen as leftovers on the society, ostracized and desperate to marry and have kids before they can no longer have kids and they are fucked.

This greentext is pretty misinformed

What about the whole MILF appeal then?

It exists but it's a niche. It's not as relevant as American Pie wants you to think

Only the sith deal in absolutes.

Where I'm from there's huge MILF culture

Where I'm from there's a huge female culture

So you're from earth then

It’s rooted in porn addiction.

That's bullshit. Some young guys are into older women. Some older women are into younger guys. Skinny women like fat men. Etc. Sexuality is a spectrum, and people fuck for completely superficial reasons.

And yeah, plenty of older women date young guys. Sugar Mommas exist just like Sugar Daddies.

It's not bullshit. Some are into older women. Most aren't. Just like most people aren't into fat people. There's a lot more older guys dating younger girls than vice versa. Even more so when the difference is >10 years.

There are outlines but I wasn't talking in absolutes

It's not bullshit. Some are into older women. Most aren't.

How do you know? You're making all these broad, ill-informed, ignorant comments about sex based on nothing.

I know plenty of older, not-super hot women who pull in young, fit tail. It's not hard for a people to get laid if they're direct and know what they want, no matter what they look like.

Wait so you believe that men are interested in older women more than in younger women?
shit this sub is getting more and more insane, there is no stopping this train now

Cope harder. Google pig woman experiment. Any woman, even without a vagina, has a significantly higher SMV than any male, even Chad.

I'm not an incel and I don't believe just any middle aged woman can sleep with young and handsome guys. The rich and attractive ones account for a small percentage

Google pig woman experiment.

tldr me

MFW copecels believe a 40 year old 4/10 housewife can get anywhere near a 7/10 guy in his 20s

Shut up, I'm gonna peak when I am 120 years old, stop me, mofoooo

Fuck it im gonna become the oldest virgin ever

As someone who has obtained sexual variety I can tell you if you have a ‘oneitis’ it’s already over

It never even began

Copers downvoting me kek

There are many ways to get over it.

If you have reached a point to where you have a oneitis it means you have sexually failed as a man.

/tantrum over

wow, you guys are fucking losers.

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I'm in the best shape of my life at 34 having been fat for most of my teens and 20s. Now I am just facing up to my poor mental health and lack of social skills which is alot tougher than losing weight was...

Theres so much to support the try till 30 then rope theory

I fucked more college age girls in my late 20’s and early 30’s than I did in college.

Is that cope? Where they just beta buxing me? I didn’t grow any taller and my fave only look older. Oh, and I went bald somewhere in there.

Exceptions don’t prove the rule, but can anyone explain it?

You probably just had/have your shit together and treat women like fellow human beings, they tend to like that

Do you realize women are the ones not treating us like human beings? Also, a lot of us have "our shit" together, like having jobs, a car, our own place.

Men can actually peak in their thirties but most men don't. It's the Ryan Gosling phenomenon. He looked like a tard in his twenties and starting to become Chadlite in his early thirties. But those men are the exception.

LIFE DOES NOT GET BETTER IF YOU "WORK HARD"

Had to stop reading there

I think men peak closer to late 20's/early 30's assuming you're healthy and not balding. Most people seem to be in poor shape by then though.

Cope. Testosterone peaks at age 22 for males. It's all downhill from there.

Better gymcel while we can soyos

tfw 23rd birthday coming up

tfw I'm at the age when my testosterone levels will start to drop

tfw I'm at the age when my IQ starts to slowly decrease

tfw this is literally my peak point in life and it's soon going to get worse

Where's the rope?

Fuck the iq, just use roids who gives a fuck

Name one current Hollywood male sex symbol under the age of 30.

Continue to cope

Yes lift but for yourself not for women. Lifting will not get you women despite what coping redpill losers say, excersize for your own personal mental and physical health and don't expect to get roasties from doing it.

I am still yet to find something funnier than its YLYL threads. Sturgeon's law applies, though, of course.

Only the sith deal in absolutes.

Where I'm from there's huge MILF culture

Cope. The only reason you lift is to attract women. Would you still lift if it had no effect on your appearance?