And different people haven't different interpretations of beauty. You can also agree that yes, someone is objectively good looking, but not be attracted to them. For example, purely anecdotal, Channing Tatum is a "Chad", right? Whatever that means? I recognize he is objectively attractive, but I am not attracted to him.
Weird, because I'm definitely not an 8 out of 10 and I've been told I'm quite handsome by a number of women. They've been happily involved in sexual relationships with me, sometimes for years.
According to incel mythology I should only be able to get a sad, dead fish fuck from a drunk girl who weighs 300lbs once every couple of years, if that.
Are you telling me that I actually am 8 out of 10 if any woman has ever been attracted to me? Because that's patently insane. I have no motivation to inflate my looks. I'm a 6 on most days. If I really put some effort in I could be a 7, maybe.
Notice how the bitch always ignores comments like these because she knows it's coming from a subhuman aka her looksmatch. She only goes after Chads/Chadlites, and then whines and moans that she's been "rejected". Cry more, bitch.
He probably mogs her tbh. Being female adds automatic points by default so if you are failing as a women you must be severely subhuman AND intensely picky because females cannot be 4everalone or incel.
might've been a profile with no picture, and just 100% unfiltered, unadulterated personality
I've stayed anonymous and talked to women online, and I've had several women fall in love with me, but when I show my picture...oh, boy does it get ogre pretty fast
And at what point did personality even come into play? Incels believe that personality = what you tell others about yourself and everyone else finds that hilarious. When you chat with others through text people are projecting personality into it.
"Projecting personality (facial attractiveness) into (onto) it."
So, say a woman falls in love with a man who she only knows from text and phone, which both certainly allow people to know others' personalities, and then looses interest as soon as the personality is matched with unattractive face, proves that face > personality, in fact, personality = face to women.
Here's the thing about not meeting someone in the flesh that everyone knows at least instinctively.
It's not just fear of others judging your looks you know, people are also afraid of if their personality might not match up
Imagine if you had a text conversation with someone you thought looked like James bond. Then imagine that you had the same exact text conversation from someone you thought looked like a neck beard stereotype
Can you see how projection figures into the equation? There is no real personality through text at all just clues
Also wanted to add why do you think I care only about looks?
And beyond that why can't you live with the fact that some women are shallow? Why would you rather torture yourself by presuming that everyone woman on earth is the same way?
Online dating is going to to be more biased toward looks. There is a reason why a lot of people don't go for online dating
It annoys me, man. I get so close to women online, on apps and shit, and they don't know how I look, and they admit they're in love with me, and I realize it's because they've got some idea of how I look in their mind that's proportioned to my personality...
And then I realized I'm too ugly for my own fucking personality...
Fucking THIS. I've talked to women online for months before but as soon as they see my picture they ghost. We can be into the same things, I can play charming and nice and say all the right things. Doesn't matter.
Lol good luck having women not literally run screaming in horror if you're a sub 7 foot tall sub 10 with a dick shorter than nine inches and haven't had sex at least 100 times
I say this as a normie who comes here with respect and as someone who has gotten laid with fairly attractive girls off tinder, and this sub would honestly probably consider me to be chad
This has happened to me before and is part of the game. Women are dumb and irrational and this happens sometimes. This post isn't really a blackpill.
It doesn't have to do with the things you say? it doesn't have to do with wit? it doesn't have to do with flirting? it doesn't have to do with finding common ground/interests and discussing them?
Personality boils down to inflections in the voice that conveys emotion? Personality can ONLY be conveyed through voice? through in person interactions?
See what I mean? You couldn't even detect obvious sarcasm.
It doesn't have to do with the things you say? it doesn't have to do with wit? it doesn't have to do with flirting? it doesn't have to do with finding common ground/interests and discussing them?
Not through text. Through text it's mostly projection.
A person who looks like James bond through text will always read with a suave British accent.
A neck beard who actually sounds like James bond will read like a mouth breather
It's all visual stereotypes.
Personality boils down to inflections in the voice that conveys emotion? Personality can ONLY be conveyed through voice? through in person interactions?
get blocked you fucking retard lmfao
Are you seriously so clueless? You know that IT users make fun of you for your cluelessness as to what a personality is right?
You can tell a person's personality by the way they treat a puppy way more than through a million words of text.
Personality is your every outward expression.
Imagine if someone was perfect except be had no facial expressions at all or only 2. He might be find through text but irl people would be creeped out.
This doesn't even make sense. Girls who use tinder are just like any other girls. Not all girls who use tinder are sluts. Many of them are regular girls who simply want Chads, and want nothing to do with ugly subhumans. You can't generalize all tinder girls as 'crazy bitches' just so you can say personality does not matter on Tinder.
This doesn't even make sense. Girls who use tinder are just like any other girls.
Nope. Then explain why the vast majority of girls DON'T use tinder.
Again tinder has an active user base worldwide of 10 million including bots. 50 million registered accounts in total which is barely a splash for a free app that so many of us try and realize isnt what we want.
There are Chads who don't even want to use a hook up app.
You're entire ideology is based on cherry picking from the most shallow subset.
Not all girls who use tinder are sluts. Many of them are regular girls who simply want Chads, and want nothing to do with ugly subhumans. You can't generalize all tinder girls as 'crazy bitches' just so you can say personality does not matter on Tinder.
Tinder has nothing to do with personality. At most you can get clues through text but it's virtually all projection.
When I text with a girl she imagines I'm saying it. If she didn't know who I was she'd imagine what I might be like. Attractive people and ugly people are stereotypes.
Someone who looks like James bond will seem to be like James bond through text.
Yeah Im willing to bet it is. This is the only sub you post in? Theres a subreddit for every hobby and interest imaginable yet here you are wallowing in self pity.
Why would this be satire? None of you seem to post anywhere other than braincels. From the outside looking in its pretty obvious you are all stuck in a toxic ecco chamber.
That's not what's going on here. Maybe a few of you are using alt accounts but it certainly looks like the majority don't engage in any other conversations outside of being an incel and shitting all over themselves.
Are you literally retarded? If he's chatting a girl up with no picture just fine and then she blocks him on seeing his face then the issue is obviously his face.
Yeah its a pretty common thing on tinder, you see it all over. Tinder is shallow as fuck, everyone gets ghosted or 1 reply out of hundreds. These posts are just a confirmation of what you tell yourselves. You people expect people to hate you and wear that on your sleeve, people alot more readable than they think sometimes. This place is like a cult praying on lonely people who could have incredibly normal lives if they didnt find this sort of pseudo-solidarity bullshit at a low point in their lives. The people here dont give a shit about you, or each other. As soon as you start to question anything they say you may as well be a normie cuck as far as they are concerned. Misery just loves company.
So why dont you continue putting your art out there and participate more in those art subs? Why spend so much time with these people who oppose any sort of personal growth? You literally cant talk about anything that goes against the toxic ideology here. They draw in lonely people and further isolate them, telling them daily they are worthless and should rope, or that everyone one of their problems is because of some grand scheme by roasties and cucks. Its like a cult in every single way.
It may be a running gag and tongue in cheek dry humor to you and others, but Im sure many that say it truly want to die and are crying out for help and the one place they feel like they have support is with people that encourage them to cut off all contact with people and isolate themselves as far as possible. From an objective point of view the same tactics are in play here as they are for extremist ideologys or cults, minus the religious aspects. Loneliness is a bitch.
Yeah. But she also doesn't know you, so she's rejecting you based off of your looks. Not who you are. I've said no thanks to plenty of guys I find attractive, and it had nothing to do with them. Just like guys I was really attracted to have told me no thanks.
Most of us are pretty fit: we've all been getting advice and following it for years : "Dress well, lift weights, haircut" etc, so we have tried to polish the turds that we are, but you know how that ends up.
Most of us are very short, and many of us have some sort of deformity.
Mate I’m not gonna tell you that your body, height and face don’t matter because they really do. This coming from a guy who went from a loser in high school with no confidence to a total bro getting sorority girls easy in college but looks are not everything right?
I genuinely know guys dating women well above their league because those women enjoy their company and love them. Do you have a lean body fat range with muscle? No facial fat? A good hairstyle? A good 6 figure career? These are things in your control and you can improve on them. Either ways I know reddit hates you guys but I have a soft spot for some of you as I went from one extreme to the other after puberty/gaining muscle.
Hmm, I see. As someone who’s family is very wealthy too I know plenty of my uncles/family friends who aren’t the best looking but have 8/10 model GFs. You could look into that or is that not the same thing?
Eh, I also have friends that are like that. It's the wealth those women are attracted to in my experience, no the person. To me it seems like a vastly more expensive prostitution.
It really has been and I’m very blessed, which is why this makes me so sad. Life is fucking unfair dude. You in california sometime message me and we”ll hit the clubs together.
What flaws do you see in yourself that you think are the root cause of your inceldom? Height? Because I would imagine that a short rich guy could still pull girls, especially if he's also got a good body and sense of style.
On your "more expensive prostitution" comment, I had some thoughts. Women have a biological imperative for hypergamy, so it seems logical to me that wealth would make a woman legitimately more attracted to a man, even if consciously she's not a superficial person. If that's the case, isn't it possible that the reason that those women marry those rich, less attractive men is due to actual feelings as opposed to gold-digging?
I know you're a notorious poster around here, and I 100% don't mean any disrespect by this, but have you ever considered that your self-image may be wrong? I mean, I have no idea if you're telling the truth about being rich or in-shape. But I definitely know quite a few people who technically have large social circles, but they give themselves a false illusion of how those people actually see them. You could be a super cool person, I don't know, but there are subjective aspects beyond looks you might not be seeing the right way.
From what I read, /u/RuPaulver said the words "have you considered...", but you seem to have misread it as "literally you and all incels are definitely...".
I'm gonna go against the grain of most normies and say that sure, being nice isn't a very big factor in romantic attraction. It is a good factor for making friends, though, and as such, you can end up with someone who has a lot of friends, but still doesn't have those traits, such as confidence, leadership, etc., that are attractive to women, without realizing it. I think that's what /u/RuPaulver was going for, not telling OP that he's purely irredeemable trash.
Why should anyone hear you out when you talk about incel issues if you don't extend that same honor to them?
I never want to generalize incels like they fit in one category. Everyone has different reasons for their situation. I'm just pondering his based on his description of it.
What I'm saying is, you can have a lot of people you consider your friend, but the closeness of your relationships and their real opinion of you could be in your head. It's like when people were obsessed with how many Facebook friends you had. It doesn't necessarily mean anything. When you're rich, like he claims he is, lots of people try to make connections with you because they think they can get something out of it.
Again, none of this could be true, and he might be legitimately likeable irl. I'm just saying people should self-reflect and look past their own ego.
Why be rude if he isn't? There are plenty of comments that are far more rude than his.
I think incel ideology/culture is as toxic as you probably do, but at least remember that you're dealing with a person. That's no way to engage in dialogue with someone (which is the only way you'll ever be able to change their minds).
We're on the internet, there's usually no way at any point ever to know if someone is lying or not. And even if someone is, and you know they are, there's better ways to respond than the way you did. If you aren't interested in having a dialogue with someone, but don't act smugly superior than them for no reason either.
Well, you read my opinion anyways, and you'll probably remember it the next time you try and make yourself feel better about yourself by bullying the biggest losers on reddit.
Holy shit, did you just call them the biggest losers on reddit? You're a fucking dick dude. I don't think that at all. Wow, you're an asshole.
Oh, and my tone won't be changing, especially not around people like you. Asshole. Don't even post here if you're being so fucking condescending not only to me but to who you've defined as the "biggest losers on reddit". Wow.
Not mincing words about their situation isn't the same as what you were doing. They are the people that the most people on reddit enjoy picking on. Some people (including myself irl to a degree if I'm being honest with myself) are losers, that's just life. Doesn't mean you can't do something about it.
And the reason I took a more confrontational tone with you in the first place is because I felt like you were being a dick. While maybe a little bit condescending, I've tried to avoid criticizing you for anything other than that which I felt you actually deserved.
Haha well, yeah, I think I've wasted the last few years smoking too much weed and hanging out with other losers, but I'm about to graduate college and start a job as an engineer, so I may be a loser right now, but I'm working on it. Which almost certainly means that I'm not weak. I'm fine with admitting my inadequacies right now because I'm actively working on them.
You on the other hand seem to be pretty butthurt and tryna make me angry, which is funny.
Wow. That is some straight talk there. I do appreciate the call out on bullying though. I've had some very negative reactions to things I've seen posted here but I hope nothing I've written here could be considered bullying. I haven't really posted much, maybe 3-4 comments, but you are right. It is always good to get a reminder that usernames are attached to people. I've seen many comments on here I really want to respond to positively but I don't because it seems they don't want to hear it and don't believe it could possibly be sincere. I don't like seeing so many people, many of them very young, feel so hopeless and refuse to value themselves.
Thank you. I initially started lurking in incel communities for the same reason as others, I assume, just to watch the shitshow. But then /r/Inceltears became a thing it seemed people just reveled in the anguish they could cause in these clearly mentally ill men.
That's not to excuse the awful things mental illness can make people do or say, but I mean, come on. I even once saw a girl in here posting about how she agreed with an incel user that he is subhuman and was mocking him for it. Her post history also indicated that in addition to inceltears, she was an active user on BDSM-related subreddits, and I can't help but wonder if she was getting some sort of morbid sexual satisfaction from humiliating someone. Really disgusting behavior that only serves to exacerbate the root problem.
Tinder is by definition a very surface-level, looks-based method of meeting people, because all you really get are a few photos. So yeah if you're unattractive, Tinder probably won't be that great for you. But that doesn't mean someone sub-8 can't find someone to be with...I mean, fuck, look at the world around you. Sitting on this forum talking about violence and hate towards women certainly won't get you any closer to getting laid.
Because surely if this person was dissatisfied with her looks he’d not unmatch. Dating apps aren’t made necessarily for meaningful relationships, that’s what real life is for.
Man, I'm so sorry this happened. Please don't give up looking for someone. When you give up is when you eliminate any and all remaining chances you have. You are not subhuman. The person who blocked you and unmatched with you after you sent her a pic of your face is.
From what I read, /u/RuPaulver said the words "have you considered...", but you seem to have misread it as "literally you and all incels are definitely...".
I'm gonna go against the grain of most normies and say that sure, being nice isn't a very big factor in romantic attraction. It is a good factor for making friends, though, and as such, you can end up with someone who has a lot of friends, but still doesn't have those traits, such as confidence, leadership, etc., that are attractive to women, without realizing it. I think that's what /u/RuPaulver was going for, not telling OP that he's purely irredeemable trash.
Why should anyone hear you out when you talk about incel issues if you don't extend that same honor to them?
171 comments
1 Build_that_Bear 2018-03-23
I'm pretty sure women have no problem being attracted to sub-8 men.
If you'd said sub-4, I might have a bit more sympathy.
1 im_bot-hi_bot 2018-03-23
hi pretty sure women have no problem being attracted to sub-8 men
1 WhyNotLayDownAndRot 2018-03-23
numale “””humor”””
1 VonMagnar 2018-03-23
As if people here want your sympathy.
1 Mest666 2018-03-23
Ye, and Jeremy Meeks is 4, as we've seen lately
1 just_for_the_record 2018-03-23
you have to be an 8 for women to see you as average looking
1 AlphabetSmut 2018-03-23
Ratings are subjective to the person doing the rating
1 just_for_the_record 2018-03-23
lol'd
http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=123853&page=1
1 AlphabetSmut 2018-03-23
And different people haven't different interpretations of beauty. You can also agree that yes, someone is objectively good looking, but not be attracted to them. For example, purely anecdotal, Channing Tatum is a "Chad", right? Whatever that means? I recognize he is objectively attractive, but I am not attracted to him.
1 just_for_the_record 2018-03-23
cool story
1 AlphabetSmut 2018-03-23
Ditto.
1 methaferus 2018-03-23
Wow i always disagree'd with everyone saying that good looking people could get away with more, but after reading that article, i think they're right
0 Build_that_Bear 2018-03-23
Weird, because I'm definitely not an 8 out of 10 and I've been told I'm quite handsome by a number of women. They've been happily involved in sexual relationships with me, sometimes for years.
According to incel mythology I should only be able to get a sad, dead fish fuck from a drunk girl who weighs 300lbs once every couple of years, if that.
1 just_for_the_record 2018-03-23
denial
1 Build_that_Bear 2018-03-23
Are you telling me that I actually am 8 out of 10 if any woman has ever been attracted to me? Because that's patently insane. I have no motivation to inflate my looks. I'm a 6 on most days. If I really put some effort in I could be a 7, maybe.
1 just_for_the_record 2018-03-23
I'm not an 8 guys. I could be a 7, maybe.
JFL
1 Build_that_Bear 2018-03-23
Oh, so now it isn't sub-8? Now it's anyone sub-7? Get your story straight.
1 just_for_the_record 2018-03-23
tits or gtfo
1 Build_that_Bear 2018-03-23
Yet another example of the average level of incel discourse.
1 just_for_the_record 2018-03-23
You lying and me calling you out is not a discourse. It's just you being a piece of shit.
1 Build_that_Bear 2018-03-23
I haven't lied about anything, so I have no idea what you're talking about. Unless a "lie" is just a fact that doesn't fit your delusional worldview.
1 kysacademy 2018-03-23
It wasnt genuine fam.
1 militantcel43 2018-03-23
get blocked, you dumbass
1 kysacademy 2018-03-23
No. Sub 8's are settles. Sub 4 u won't even get friended by a woman tbh.
1 random1234lol 2018-03-23
I got ghosted twice in the last 4 weeks. Such is the life of a sub5 male.
1 Board_Gaming 2018-03-23
I've been rejected 6 times this year. This is just the way it goes.
1 stronglydislikeweebs 2018-03-23
Such is the life of a sub 2 female
1 amazing-tony 2018-03-23
Date me I won't reject you
1 anincelforlifelol 2018-03-23
Notice how the bitch always ignores comments like these because she knows it's coming from a subhuman aka her looksmatch. She only goes after Chads/Chadlites, and then whines and moans that she's been "rejected". Cry more, bitch.
1 Board_Gaming 2018-03-23
I don't think any guys on this sub live near me.
1 methaferus 2018-03-23
Is that going to stop you? 99% of the guys on this sub want to get their dick wet but cant. You could become the r/braincels whore.
1 Board_Gaming 2018-03-23
I'm not a whore.
1 anincelforlifelol 2018-03-23
Nice excuse.
1 Board_Gaming 2018-03-23
It's a logical reason.
1 warmestblack 2018-03-23
He probably mogs her tbh. Being female adds automatic points by default so if you are failing as a women you must be severely subhuman AND intensely picky because females cannot be 4everalone or incel.
1 CamoWoobie5 2018-03-23
Awww how cute. You're mad Chad rejected your 2/10 self. Maybe try dating a little bit closer to your league.
0 Board_Gaming 2018-03-23
I've never specifically gone after Chad.
1 bigantennaemay1 2018-03-23
You're clearly not shooting anywhere near your own league, either.
1 StupidassMotherfoker 2018-03-23
Try losing some weight and not eating like a hippo, thats enough for femails on tutorial mode
1 Board_Gaming 2018-03-23
I don't eat like a hippo.
1 IWISHIWASCHAD 2018-03-23
like an elephant? they eat 600 pounds of food a day
1 Board_Gaming 2018-03-23
I eat based on calories per day, not pounds of food.
1 kysacademy 2018-03-23
Lose weight, females literally play on tutorial mode with cheats.
1 Board_Gaming 2018-03-23
Not true.
1 kysacademy 2018-03-23
Very true.
1 Board_Gaming 2018-03-23
I don't play on tutorial mode. I don't play video games at all.
1 kysacademy 2018-03-23
Do you just act retarded to mock us, or are you this dense?
1 methaferus 2018-03-23
Probably just dense
1 Traz_Onmale 2018-03-23
Except if women make a mistake in the game they risk getting infected by terrible genes.
1 LeonardoDecockrio 2018-03-23
Holy shit this is sui fuel
1 geneticwaste43 2018-03-23
Rope it
1 militantcel43 2018-03-23
RRI, you got another account banned?
1 rippedrichascended 2018-03-23
yep lmao. Thankfully Home is elsewhere now.
1 AreYouFrickingDeaf 2018-03-23
Doesn't make sense. She clearly would've seen his face on Tinder. Why even match with him and message him?
1 Shazoa 2018-03-23
Curation of photos to make you look way better than you are, or from a very flattering angle.
1 IncelSlayerZero 2018-03-23
Chad hit her back up that's why lol
1 militantcel43 2018-03-23
might've been a profile with no picture, and just 100% unfiltered, unadulterated personality
I've stayed anonymous and talked to women online, and I've had several women fall in love with me, but when I show my picture...oh, boy does it get ogre pretty fast
1 rippedrichascended 2018-03-23
This is the real blackpill. Jesus.
1 BigLebowskiBot 2018-03-23
You said it, man.
1 neomancr 2018-03-23
And at what point did personality even come into play?
Incels believe that personality = what you tell others about yourself and everyone else finds that hilarious.
1 Incel9876 2018-03-23
"Projecting personality (facial attractiveness) into (onto) it."
So, say a woman falls in love with a man who she only knows from text and phone, which both certainly allow people to know others' personalities, and then looses interest as soon as the personality is matched with unattractive face, proves that face > personality, in fact, personality = face to women.
1 neomancr 2018-03-23
No they don't. Jesus christ. Are you guys all really autistic?
1 bopoll 2018-03-23
Neomancr. How the fuck does 1 photo negate weeks of learning about someone's personality?
1 neomancr 2018-03-23
Did they meet irl? Or was it all through text?
Here's the thing about not meeting someone in the flesh that everyone knows at least instinctively.
It's not just fear of others judging your looks you know, people are also afraid of if their personality might not match up
Imagine if you had a text conversation with someone you thought looked like James bond. Then imagine that you had the same exact text conversation from someone you thought looked like a neck beard stereotype
Can you see how projection figures into the equation? There is no real personality through text at all just clues
1 neomancr 2018-03-23
Also wanted to add why do you think I care only about looks?
And beyond that why can't you live with the fact that some women are shallow? Why would you rather torture yourself by presuming that everyone woman on earth is the same way?
Online dating is going to to be more biased toward looks. There is a reason why a lot of people don't go for online dating
1 militantcel43 2018-03-23
It annoys me, man. I get so close to women online, on apps and shit, and they don't know how I look, and they admit they're in love with me, and I realize it's because they've got some idea of how I look in their mind that's proportioned to my personality...
And then I realized I'm too ugly for my own fucking personality...
1 rippedrichascended 2018-03-23
Powerful point. Could be it’s own post bro.
1 militantcel43 2018-03-23
ah....I don't have the spiritual fortitude to explore that right now :(
1 zeddontfly 2018-03-23
Fucking THIS. I've talked to women online for months before but as soon as they see my picture they ghost. We can be into the same things, I can play charming and nice and say all the right things. Doesn't matter.
1 rafaelvicuna4 2018-03-23
Brutal blackpill right here
1 Ih8j4ke 2018-03-23
Lol good luck having women not literally run screaming in horror if you're a sub 7 foot tall sub 10 with a dick shorter than nine inches and haven't had sex at least 100 times
1 THE_GYMTIMIDATOR 2018-03-23
Try having better genetics, saltybois.
1 methaferus 2018-03-23
You should probably use /s in the future so you dont get downvoted Edit: /s
1 Reddit5uck5 2018-03-23
/s is for fucking retards
1 methaferus 2018-03-23
You put it in the wrong place. It goes here /s
1 Teal_Kitten 2018-03-23
Why would she swipe right on a profile with no picture?
1 rippedrichascended 2018-03-23
Gee, it almost sounds like an admission that face is all that counts.
1 Teal_Kitten 2018-03-23
Yeah on tinder i thought that was the point of the swipe system
1 GeneticCleansing 2018-03-23
And 27% of today's youth are on online dating.
Really makes you think.
1 Incelvester 2018-03-23
B-bu-
Muh personality
1 Hopecel 2018-03-23
I swiped right on a lot of hoes without profile pic. None of them matched me, lol.
1 rater-throwaway 2018-03-23
I say this as a normie who comes here with respect and as someone who has gotten laid with fairly attractive girls off tinder, and this sub would honestly probably consider me to be chad
This has happened to me before and is part of the game. Women are dumb and irrational and this happens sometimes. This post isn't really a blackpill.
1 zenerat 2018-03-23
What's a buckwheat?
1 nickjaa 2018-03-23
Is a cuckqueer a girl who judges your apperance? seems like the wrong term.
1 B45T4RD 2018-03-23
It’s supposed to mean inceltears.
1 nickjaa 2018-03-23
ohhh
1 neomancr 2018-03-23
I love how you're still on tinder trying to rely on personality.
If you think your personality can be anything close to being expressed through text you are a really really bland person
1 militantcel43 2018-03-23
lol personality has to do with the way you emote?
It doesn't have to do with the things you say? it doesn't have to do with wit? it doesn't have to do with flirting? it doesn't have to do with finding common ground/interests and discussing them?
Personality boils down to inflections in the voice that conveys emotion? Personality can ONLY be conveyed through voice? through in person interactions?
get blocked you fucking retard lmfao
1 neomancr 2018-03-23
See what I mean? You couldn't even detect obvious sarcasm.
Not through text. Through text it's mostly projection.
A person who looks like James bond through text will always read with a suave British accent.
A neck beard who actually sounds like James bond will read like a mouth breather
It's all visual stereotypes.
Are you seriously so clueless? You know that IT users make fun of you for your cluelessness as to what a personality is right?
You can tell a person's personality by the way they treat a puppy way more than through a million words of text.
Personality is your every outward expression.
Imagine if someone was perfect except be had no facial expressions at all or only 2. He might be find through text but irl people would be creeped out.
1 LoverMonkey 2018-03-23
This doesn't even make sense. Girls who use tinder are just like any other girls. Not all girls who use tinder are sluts. Many of them are regular girls who simply want Chads, and want nothing to do with ugly subhumans. You can't generalize all tinder girls as 'crazy bitches' just so you can say personality does not matter on Tinder.
1 neomancr 2018-03-23
Nope. Then explain why the vast majority of girls DON'T use tinder.
Again tinder has an active user base worldwide of 10 million including bots. 50 million registered accounts in total which is barely a splash for a free app that so many of us try and realize isnt what we want.
There are Chads who don't even want to use a hook up app.
You're entire ideology is based on cherry picking from the most shallow subset.
Tinder has nothing to do with personality. At most you can get clues through text but it's virtually all projection.
When I text with a girl she imagines I'm saying it. If she didn't know who I was she'd imagine what I might be like. Attractive people and ugly people are stereotypes.
Someone who looks like James bond will seem to be like James bond through text.
1 kysacademy 2018-03-23
This has happened so often. But i mean personality right? Thats my problem r-right guys?
1 androidv17 2018-03-23
Yeah Im willing to bet it is. This is the only sub you post in? Theres a subreddit for every hobby and interest imaginable yet here you are wallowing in self pity.
1 kysacademy 2018-03-23
Leave.
1 androidv17 2018-03-23
Get help
1 jaghatarhonor 2018-03-23
Holy fuck I can't believe it is this satire
1 androidv17 2018-03-23
Why would this be satire? None of you seem to post anywhere other than braincels. From the outside looking in its pretty obvious you are all stuck in a toxic ecco chamber.
1 jaghatarhonor 2018-03-23
e c c o
1 kneigard83velt20 2018-03-23
There is a thing called alternate accounts...
1 androidv17 2018-03-23
That's not what's going on here. Maybe a few of you are using alt accounts but it certainly looks like the majority don't engage in any other conversations outside of being an incel and shitting all over themselves.
1 jaghatarhonor 2018-03-23
Or maybe reddit isn't my entire life you massive retard
1 IdiotKnight 2018-03-23
Better than being a self-righteous bitch who thinks she has all the answers.
1 androidv17 2018-03-23
Funny that you assume Im a woman and call me a bitch in the same sentence, I wonder why your alone. Enjoy your cult, have a great day.
1 El_Tigrex 2018-03-23
Are you literally retarded? If he's chatting a girl up with no picture just fine and then she blocks him on seeing his face then the issue is obviously his face.
1 androidv17 2018-03-23
Yeah lets see that conversation and Im sure we'll see the real story.
1 GeneticCleansing 2018-03-23
it literally happens all day every day, dude. stop coping
1 androidv17 2018-03-23
Yeah its a pretty common thing on tinder, you see it all over. Tinder is shallow as fuck, everyone gets ghosted or 1 reply out of hundreds. These posts are just a confirmation of what you tell yourselves. You people expect people to hate you and wear that on your sleeve, people alot more readable than they think sometimes. This place is like a cult praying on lonely people who could have incredibly normal lives if they didnt find this sort of pseudo-solidarity bullshit at a low point in their lives. The people here dont give a shit about you, or each other. As soon as you start to question anything they say you may as well be a normie cuck as far as they are concerned. Misery just loves company.
1 IdiotKnight 2018-03-23
Shit dude, I'm not even incel and that happens to me regularly. I have a face for radio, shit happens.
1 Incel_Executioner 2018-03-23
How can women in real life tell he posts on this forum?
1 RetardRussian 2018-03-23
Not everybody's life revolves around reddit, you virg-boy. Seems like you belong here too.
1 androidv17 2018-03-23
That may be but the shitty toxic attitudes perpetuating on this sub definitely affects all of you irl
1 kysacademy 2018-03-23
actually the only sub I posted in was an anime sub for some art I drew
1 androidv17 2018-03-23
So why dont you continue putting your art out there and participate more in those art subs? Why spend so much time with these people who oppose any sort of personal growth? You literally cant talk about anything that goes against the toxic ideology here. They draw in lonely people and further isolate them, telling them daily they are worthless and should rope, or that everyone one of their problems is because of some grand scheme by roasties and cucks. Its like a cult in every single way.
1 kysacademy 2018-03-23
Dude, the roping thing is a running gag here. We DO NOT encourage suicide.
1 androidv17 2018-03-23
It may be a running gag and tongue in cheek dry humor to you and others, but Im sure many that say it truly want to die and are crying out for help and the one place they feel like they have support is with people that encourage them to cut off all contact with people and isolate themselves as far as possible. From an objective point of view the same tactics are in play here as they are for extremist ideologys or cults, minus the religious aspects. Loneliness is a bitch.
1 kysacademy 2018-03-23
And besides don't tell me what to browse.
1 GeneticCleansing 2018-03-23
u/azavii
1 dirty_dan1824 2018-03-23
I gave up on the search long ago. No point trying knowing what the end result will be (ghost)
1 5_times84 2018-03-23
These are self fulfilling prophecies.
1 dirty_dan1824 2018-03-23
BLAZE IT
1 5_times84 2018-03-23
You know I don't anymore
1 dirty_dan1824 2018-03-23
I seriously can't resist now that I know
1 salvu667 2018-03-23
What do you guys even look like
1 rippedrichascended 2018-03-23
Like monsters.
1 RedDeath01 2018-03-23
Then you shall be slain
1 atheist_terry_jones 2018-03-23
youre not a monster bro, we aint sexy and we dont look good but we aint monsters.
1 rippedrichascended 2018-03-23
You haven't seen my bro. Children weep as I pass them on the street.
1 Treesarescary 2018-03-23
Do people stared at you whenever you go out?
1 rippedrichascended 2018-03-23
Yes. I often wear sunglasses and a scarf over my face so that no one can see me.
1 Treesarescary 2018-03-23
Everywhere i go man people stare at me with that “wtf” expression and i don’t know why
1 rippedrichascended 2018-03-23
There is somewhere where they won't
1 Treesarescary 2018-03-23
Like i mean i just wanna know exactly what processes happen in the visual cortex when people lay eyes on me
1 bopoll 2018-03-23
People often stare at me
1 bopoll 2018-03-23
Deformed
1 fatchancebud 2018-03-23
women aren't less superficial, there's just more things they are superficial about
1 CamoWoobie5 2018-03-23
Well said
1 Loser_Bug 2018-03-23
She's not into you. Don't take it personally. Damn.
1 DrFeel_MD_PHD_NOGF 2018-03-23
How the fug can you not take this personally? She's rejecting YOU
1 Loser_Bug 2018-03-23
Yeah. But she also doesn't know you, so she's rejecting you based off of your looks. Not who you are. I've said no thanks to plenty of guys I find attractive, and it had nothing to do with them. Just like guys I was really attracted to have told me no thanks.
1 RetardRussian 2018-03-23
Moral of the story: Post your own subhuman face pics on tinder instead of using anime pictures or pics of chad.
1 abh985 2018-03-23
What does the average poster here look like? I’m curious. I refuse to believe all of you are so ugly that NO woman likes you.
1 rippedrichascended 2018-03-23
You would be suprised brother.
Most of us are pretty fit: we've all been getting advice and following it for years : "Dress well, lift weights, haircut" etc, so we have tried to polish the turds that we are, but you know how that ends up.
Most of us are very short, and many of us have some sort of deformity.
1 abh985 2018-03-23
Mate I’m not gonna tell you that your body, height and face don’t matter because they really do. This coming from a guy who went from a loser in high school with no confidence to a total bro getting sorority girls easy in college but looks are not everything right?
I genuinely know guys dating women well above their league because those women enjoy their company and love them. Do you have a lean body fat range with muscle? No facial fat? A good hairstyle? A good 6 figure career? These are things in your control and you can improve on them. Either ways I know reddit hates you guys but I have a soft spot for some of you as I went from one extreme to the other after puberty/gaining muscle.
1 rippedrichascended 2018-03-23
I am muscular and low body fat, I have a very stylish haircut. I am a multimillionaire with larges circles of friends, both male and female.
Some people just aren't cut out for being desired.
I appreciate your concern though man, thanks!
1 abh985 2018-03-23
Hmm, I see. As someone who’s family is very wealthy too I know plenty of my uncles/family friends who aren’t the best looking but have 8/10 model GFs. You could look into that or is that not the same thing?
1 rippedrichascended 2018-03-23
Eh, I also have friends that are like that. It's the wealth those women are attracted to in my experience, no the person. To me it seems like a vastly more expensive prostitution.
1 abh985 2018-03-23
Hmm yeah sadly you’re right. This makes me sad; I hope you find someone that loves you and have a fulfilling life. That is all.
1 rippedrichascended 2018-03-23
Wow that is really kind of you to say. Thank you bro. I hope life treats you well.
1 abh985 2018-03-23
It really has been and I’m very blessed, which is why this makes me so sad. Life is fucking unfair dude. You in california sometime message me and we”ll hit the clubs together.
1 rippedrichascended 2018-03-23
Hey I've been pretty blessed too. Yeah I had to work hard, but not everyone that does becomes succesful.
I have great friends and a good life, I just miss out on romance, which definitely sucks, but there are others out there far worse off.
I'm often in LA to see friends there, if you're a SH member you might see me there, I'll hit you up. Same if you're in London
1 HalloweenInHeaven 2018-03-23
What flaws do you see in yourself that you think are the root cause of your inceldom? Height? Because I would imagine that a short rich guy could still pull girls, especially if he's also got a good body and sense of style.
On your "more expensive prostitution" comment, I had some thoughts. Women have a biological imperative for hypergamy, so it seems logical to me that wealth would make a woman legitimately more attracted to a man, even if consciously she's not a superficial person. If that's the case, isn't it possible that the reason that those women marry those rich, less attractive men is due to actual feelings as opposed to gold-digging?
1 RuPaulver 2018-03-23
I know you're a notorious poster around here, and I 100% don't mean any disrespect by this, but have you ever considered that your self-image may be wrong? I mean, I have no idea if you're telling the truth about being rich or in-shape. But I definitely know quite a few people who technically have large social circles, but they give themselves a false illusion of how those people actually see them. You could be a super cool person, I don't know, but there are subjective aspects beyond looks you might not be seeing the right way.
1 fsdaasfdsdafsdaf 2018-03-23
Was humanity a mistake? YES.
1 TheYsbryd 2018-03-23
i think you might have missed the point a bit
1 fsdaasfdsdafsdaf 2018-03-23
No, the point is obvious.
All incels are lacking in self awareness and have no positive quality traits. If they list positive traits, that is simply lacking self awareness.
It's the same old shit packaged differently...
1 HalloweenInHeaven 2018-03-23
From what I read, /u/RuPaulver said the words "have you considered...", but you seem to have misread it as "literally you and all incels are definitely...".
I'm gonna go against the grain of most normies and say that sure, being nice isn't a very big factor in romantic attraction. It is a good factor for making friends, though, and as such, you can end up with someone who has a lot of friends, but still doesn't have those traits, such as confidence, leadership, etc., that are attractive to women, without realizing it. I think that's what /u/RuPaulver was going for, not telling OP that he's purely irredeemable trash.
Why should anyone hear you out when you talk about incel issues if you don't extend that same honor to them?
1 RuPaulver 2018-03-23
I never want to generalize incels like they fit in one category. Everyone has different reasons for their situation. I'm just pondering his based on his description of it.
What I'm saying is, you can have a lot of people you consider your friend, but the closeness of your relationships and their real opinion of you could be in your head. It's like when people were obsessed with how many Facebook friends you had. It doesn't necessarily mean anything. When you're rich, like he claims he is, lots of people try to make connections with you because they think they can get something out of it.
Again, none of this could be true, and he might be legitimately likeable irl. I'm just saying people should self-reflect and look past their own ego.
1 HalloweenInHeaven 2018-03-23
Yeah, I feel you man. Money definitely complicates those sorts of social dynamics.
1 MotivationHacker 2018-03-23
Who has ever said "I have a very stylish haircut".
LMAO@multimillionaire.
Some of you really live in a fantasy world.
1 HalloweenInHeaven 2018-03-23
Why be rude if he isn't? There are plenty of comments that are far more rude than his.
I think incel ideology/culture is as toxic as you probably do, but at least remember that you're dealing with a person. That's no way to engage in dialogue with someone (which is the only way you'll ever be able to change their minds).
1 MotivationHacker 2018-03-23
He is being rude because he's lying.
1 HalloweenInHeaven 2018-03-23
We're on the internet, there's usually no way at any point ever to know if someone is lying or not. And even if someone is, and you know they are, there's better ways to respond than the way you did. If you aren't interested in having a dialogue with someone, but don't act smugly superior than them for no reason either.
1 MotivationHacker 2018-03-23
I don't care how you perceived my post or what your opinion was on it.
1 HalloweenInHeaven 2018-03-23
Well, you read my opinion anyways, and you'll probably remember it the next time you try and make yourself feel better about yourself by bullying the biggest losers on reddit.
1 MotivationHacker 2018-03-23
Holy shit, did you just call them the biggest losers on reddit? You're a fucking dick dude. I don't think that at all. Wow, you're an asshole.
Oh, and my tone won't be changing, especially not around people like you. Asshole. Don't even post here if you're being so fucking condescending not only to me but to who you've defined as the "biggest losers on reddit". Wow.
1 HalloweenInHeaven 2018-03-23
Not mincing words about their situation isn't the same as what you were doing. They are the people that the most people on reddit enjoy picking on. Some people (including myself irl to a degree if I'm being honest with myself) are losers, that's just life. Doesn't mean you can't do something about it.
And the reason I took a more confrontational tone with you in the first place is because I felt like you were being a dick. While maybe a little bit condescending, I've tried to avoid criticizing you for anything other than that which I felt you actually deserved.
1 MotivationHacker 2018-03-23
So not only are you weak, but you consider yourself a loser? Jesus Christ man.
1 HalloweenInHeaven 2018-03-23
Haha well, yeah, I think I've wasted the last few years smoking too much weed and hanging out with other losers, but I'm about to graduate college and start a job as an engineer, so I may be a loser right now, but I'm working on it. Which almost certainly means that I'm not weak. I'm fine with admitting my inadequacies right now because I'm actively working on them.
You on the other hand seem to be pretty butthurt and tryna make me angry, which is funny.
1 MotivationHacker 2018-03-23
Why would I bother making you angry? Why would I waste my time on such a thing?
1 HalloweenInHeaven 2018-03-23
I honestly have no idea, my dude.
1 SheltathaLore 2018-03-23
Wow. That is some straight talk there. I do appreciate the call out on bullying though. I've had some very negative reactions to things I've seen posted here but I hope nothing I've written here could be considered bullying. I haven't really posted much, maybe 3-4 comments, but you are right. It is always good to get a reminder that usernames are attached to people. I've seen many comments on here I really want to respond to positively but I don't because it seems they don't want to hear it and don't believe it could possibly be sincere. I don't like seeing so many people, many of them very young, feel so hopeless and refuse to value themselves.
1 HalloweenInHeaven 2018-03-23
Thank you. I initially started lurking in incel communities for the same reason as others, I assume, just to watch the shitshow. But then /r/Inceltears became a thing it seemed people just reveled in the anguish they could cause in these clearly mentally ill men.
That's not to excuse the awful things mental illness can make people do or say, but I mean, come on. I even once saw a girl in here posting about how she agreed with an incel user that he is subhuman and was mocking him for it. Her post history also indicated that in addition to inceltears, she was an active user on BDSM-related subreddits, and I can't help but wonder if she was getting some sort of morbid sexual satisfaction from humiliating someone. Really disgusting behavior that only serves to exacerbate the root problem.
1 MrTitan11 2018-03-23
That post was literally ment to be over exaggerated just for the purpose of the point.
The fact that you want to drag on incels, when you're so slow you can't comprehend this basic fact just shows how stupid you folk are.
1 BeyondEarthly 2018-03-23
Hmm...
1 AntiAbleism 2018-03-23
Very common with me.
1 abitsmitten 2018-03-23
Tinder is by definition a very surface-level, looks-based method of meeting people, because all you really get are a few photos. So yeah if you're unattractive, Tinder probably won't be that great for you. But that doesn't mean someone sub-8 can't find someone to be with...I mean, fuck, look at the world around you. Sitting on this forum talking about violence and hate towards women certainly won't get you any closer to getting laid.
1 Pomodoro2 2018-03-23
whats sub-8
1 hyperconstruct 2018-03-23
How do I? Real life? People don't even want to talk to me as a friend.
1 RIPMYPOOPCHUTE 2018-03-23
Just shower bro
1 BroSiLLLYBro 2018-03-23
Because surely if this person was dissatisfied with her looks he’d not unmatch. Dating apps aren’t made necessarily for meaningful relationships, that’s what real life is for.
1 SyntheticTeapot 2018-03-23
Man, I'm so sorry this happened. Please don't give up looking for someone. When you give up is when you eliminate any and all remaining chances you have. You are not subhuman. The person who blocked you and unmatched with you after you sent her a pic of your face is.
1 just_for_the_record 2018-03-23
tits or gtfo
1 abh985 2018-03-23
Hmm yeah sadly you’re right. This makes me sad; I hope you find someone that loves you and have a fulfilling life. That is all.
1 HalloweenInHeaven 2018-03-23
From what I read, /u/RuPaulver said the words "have you considered...", but you seem to have misread it as "literally you and all incels are definitely...".
I'm gonna go against the grain of most normies and say that sure, being nice isn't a very big factor in romantic attraction. It is a good factor for making friends, though, and as such, you can end up with someone who has a lot of friends, but still doesn't have those traits, such as confidence, leadership, etc., that are attractive to women, without realizing it. I think that's what /u/RuPaulver was going for, not telling OP that he's purely irredeemable trash.
Why should anyone hear you out when you talk about incel issues if you don't extend that same honor to them?