Some women are bitches but if you use stuff like this to apparently prove you can't be friends with them then you are becoming a self fulfilling prophecy.
Not all men are potential rapist yet we are treated as such. Not all incels are potential school shooters yet we were always bullied and treated as such. Why dont you go fuck yourself?
There's statistically significant evidence that females use beta males to advance their own positions — it's common across the animal kingdom, especially in primates.
They genuinely believe that women are amazing moral people that seek to help everyone, equally. They really do believe that incels are just born with wretched personalities and hate women for no reason at all.
Imagine being so delusional. It really is hard to grasp.
What was implied is that this kind of manipulation happens often. Women know when we're interested In them, but they pretend not to and manipulate us and then call us "entitled" when we catch on to what's happening.
Is it her fault that men are so dumb and so easy to manipulate? Just had an incel tell me men are smarter than women. Looking pretty dumb and inferior to me.
Yeah, we shouldn't fault abusive men for their behaviour with women too. After all, is it his fault women are so dumb and easy to manipulate? Fuck off you norman cuckold. Go make yourself feel better on r/niceguys. Or go back to cucktears for all I care.
Incels generalize women usually. When there is an anecdote or story posted about a women being shitty, they jump on it and use it to reinforce their naive world view.
If incels or men are generalize, they become lucid for a mere moment and begin to see humans, at least men, as individuals.
Yeah I got that moron. What I meant was that It made no sense relating to your comment. What was wrong with it wasn't that you were generalizing men as X, but rather that you generalized people that were manipulated as X. Fucking idiot. That's what I fucking addressed.
I mean I think people should be held responsible for their actions. Can you hold a scam artist responsible for stealing your grandmas retirement? Yes, just because your grandma is an idiot doesn't make it ok to take advantage of her.
Men make better, more relatable friends. I was just hanging out with a couple of guys who complained that this one friend was always bringing his girlfriend by. We can't be our true selves around her, she just made things awkward by being there lol. Now I have no problem with her and chatted with her a bit, but honestly I'd rather her not be there. I'll make female friends, but we have to be dating. At that point you technically become friends anyway lol. I honestly don't have much of a problem getting with women, but they make me nervous and uncomfortable in general lol. They'd never know this, though.
Then how is it that millions of other men don't feel like that around women? Just because YOU'RE having a problem, doesn't mean that all women are at fault
What did I blame them for? Besides my own discomfort, we usually don't have the same interests. Why the butthurt? I think men make better friends, it's my opinion, who gives a fuck? I'll send those foids your way so you can talk about her abusive bf and dancing with the stars. Just LOL.
Nah she comes to pick up some trees with her man and leaves like a half hour later. My true self isn't going to scare her, but I can't go off talking about hoes and slays and all other kinds of nonsense I can discuss with my boys.
But you've seriously misunderstood the original comic, which talks about casual friendships, but you interpreted it as a comic talking platonic friendships. This led to a confusion on both sides, mainly for your side
I am just not going to respond to this if the best argument you can formulate is fucking semantics of all things.
According to your logic, a casual friendship with a dude is platonic?
Isn't that the end result, and is that not how effectively everyone else connotatively interprets it? The fact you have to overreach for something like the semantics of all things just magnifies the fact that you have no real argument that can attack the core of what this meme/depiction is displaying.
Weren't you the person who said that casual and platonic were similar? You contradicted yourself, and are trying to cover it up, by making some bullshit semantics excuse
In this particular context, they pretty much are connotatively similar and synonymous. Look, everyone else interpreted it to be that way (because that's how the term is commonly understood), including Gynocentric ITears Brigaders.
Something makes me think that you're some Indian woman who commonly friend-zones and abuses men and that this particular meme was very relevant to how poorly you treat others.
Youve just proved your dumbass side with those last few lines. I'm not a woman, and why does your dumb ass think that an Indian woman must be some friend zoner, or some abuser. All Indian women I've seen are kind, and that last line aptly describes your problem. You treat them like shit half the time, maybe that's why they treat you back like that. Generalization is just stupid. And how are casual and platonic similar in any way? No normal person thinks of humping a girl with whom they're casual friends with, nothing is sexual. Casual, is what the word is;casual
I feel like both of these are extremes. While it is a logical fallacy to assume the truth lies in the middle, it probably does in this case, even more toward the example on the left.
My evidence is anecdotal but hey, I've had some pretty fantastic female friends over the years.
People value emotional relationships differently. Emotional support is inherently difficult to quantify because of this but remains a significant part of how people define friendships.
Similarly, people expect different things out of relationships. While I would expect a friend (at least a good one) to go out of their way to help me at times, others have no problem having friends of convenience.
I personally dislike any friendships where there is some tangible reason for remaining friends with them, I'm friends with people because they satisfy a very basal need for human interaction and because I "like" them for them. (These are cases where you're "only friends with someone for their wealth/status" or have a relationship with someone where you may meet and exchange information but it's always tit for tat)
So if we say there is no means (at least no consistent or subjective means) for quantifying how much another person helps you with your emotional and overall well-being, it really comes down to what you want out of a friendship and whether or not the other person is meeting these criteria.
Link to her ig??? I need to see how attractive she is to warrant such a beta cuck orbiter for my study. I'm trying to develop a theory behind the pareto distribution (80/20) rule when it comes to women and men.
It's all love to her because she is the one benefiting but imagine that the roles get reversed and Chad friend zones her and let's her foot the bill. It wouldn't be "all love" after that, would it ?
Friendship doesn't lead to sex and befriending women for the sake of sex is something that nice guy tms would do. There's a literal difference in dynamic between how you talk to women when conversing with them as friends and how you actually flirt with women to proposition them with sex.
I don't think you understand the point I was trying to make. The point is that friendships with women oftentimes are toxic and disadvantageous to men, even if it's well-understood that the friendship is platonic at best.
I get that but was merely addressing the IT part where they say befriending women will somehow lead to sex or some shit. Personally, my female mates are cool where there's no orbiting or any of the whiteknighting shit involved, unlike I see in a lot of male-female nerd friendships
What was implied is that this kind of manipulation happens often. Women know when we're interested In them, but they pretend not to and manipulate us and then call us "entitled" when we catch on to what's happening.
75 comments
1 geneticwaste43 2018-03-23
CRICKETS
1 militantcel43 2018-03-23
nah normies have to wagecuck tomorrow like little bitches, but I'm sure they'll have incredibly stupid things to say about this
1 geneticwaste43 2018-03-23
Im wagecuckin
1 militantcel43 2018-03-23
Give tyrone those tax dollas
1 geneticwaste43 2018-03-23
I will suck his giant black titancocl because I a.m. a good sissy gurl
1 militantcel43 2018-03-23
That's why you're incel
1 Board_Gaming 2018-03-23
What on Earth place are they at that a bill gets racked up that high???
1 geneticwaste43 2018-03-23
Fiola Mare in Washington DC
1 Board_Gaming 2018-03-23
Was the bill mostly alcohol?
1 geneticwaste43 2018-03-23
I dunno I can't read Mexican
1 RIPMYPOOPCHUTE 2018-03-23
The bill is mainly alcohol. Why even spend that much on it anyways? The cheapest bottles will still taste the same as the expensive bottles.
1 NeedinStitches 2018-03-23
Right because analogies are solid evidence only when used by incels.
1 _THE_END_IS_NIGH_ 2018-03-23
Virgin normie platitude vs Chad analogy maker
1 Jcart105 2018-03-23
Men are waking up to the deceptive moral concern trolling used to slyly fuel the female imperative. Judge them by their actions, not by their words.
1 NeedinStitches 2018-03-23
Some women are bitches but if you use stuff like this to apparently prove you can't be friends with them then you are becoming a self fulfilling prophecy.
1 _THE_END_IS_NIGH_ 2018-03-23
Virgin notallwomen vs Chad AWALT
1 StupidassMotherfoker 2018-03-23
Not all men are potential rapist yet we are treated as such. Not all incels are potential school shooters yet we were always bullied and treated as such. Why dont you go fuck yourself?
1 Rubissrox 2018-03-23
This is wrong sure, but brushing all women as manipulative or gold digging is wrong too. Not sure why you think two wrong make a right.
1 StupidassMotherfoker 2018-03-23
Two wrongs dont make a right, but they make me feel better anyway
1 Jcart105 2018-03-23
There's statistically significant evidence that females use beta males to advance their own positions — it's common across the animal kingdom, especially in primates.
1 Shazig 2018-03-23
They genuinely believe that women are amazing moral people that seek to help everyone, equally. They really do believe that incels are just born with wretched personalities and hate women for no reason at all.
Imagine being so delusional. It really is hard to grasp.
1 xtsv 2018-03-23
Thankfully cucked males tend to die childless.
1 Shashank_Narayan 2018-03-23
Don't cut yourself on that complete lack of self awareness
1 methaferus 2018-03-23
Maybe judge what the person says and dont label him as delusional just because he's on a sub that has a reputation for being delusional
1 VonMagnar 2018-03-23
That would actually require the slightest amount of effort.
1 Carkudo 2018-03-23
...was that supposed to be, like, a pun?
1 IncelSlayerZero 2018-03-23
Cucks gonna cuck.
1 Crocodilesclimbtrees 2018-03-23
Who pays ten dollars for a side of spinach? I can buy like three pounds of spinach for ten dollars.
1 DelicousIrony 2018-03-23
The biggest blackpill
1 IncelSlayerZero 2018-03-23
Wymyn are for love making, not friends.
1 Shashank_Narayan 2018-03-23
Friendship ≠ Sex or love
Get this through your head, incels
1 Subhumanvoice 2018-03-23
You're ignoring that he spent 400 bucks on some bitch who pretended to be interested In him only for her to deny him at the end
1 Shashank_Narayan 2018-03-23
One women, among the 1. 5 billion adult women currently in the world
1 Subhumanvoice 2018-03-23
What was implied is that this kind of manipulation happens often. Women know when we're interested In them, but they pretend not to and manipulate us and then call us "entitled" when we catch on to what's happening.
1 Shashank_Narayan 2018-03-23
That doesn't mean all women are bad
1 Subhumanvoice 2018-03-23
That means that the bullshit """""analogy""""" on the right is not representative of our reality.
1 Rubissrox 2018-03-23
Is it her fault that men are so dumb and so easy to manipulate? Just had an incel tell me men are smarter than women. Looking pretty dumb and inferior to me.
1 Subhumanvoice 2018-03-23
Yeah, we shouldn't fault abusive men for their behaviour with women too. After all, is it his fault women are so dumb and easy to manipulate? Fuck off you norman cuckold. Go make yourself feel better on r/niceguys. Or go back to cucktears for all I care.
1 Rubissrox 2018-03-23
Is it not as fun for you to paint all women in a negative light when it's done to men?
Shocking!
1 Subhumanvoice 2018-03-23
That makes no sense.
1 Rubissrox 2018-03-23
Incels generalize women usually. When there is an anecdote or story posted about a women being shitty, they jump on it and use it to reinforce their naive world view.
If incels or men are generalize, they become lucid for a mere moment and begin to see humans, at least men, as individuals.
Basically incels can't handle what they dish out.
1 Subhumanvoice 2018-03-23
Yeah I got that moron. What I meant was that It made no sense relating to your comment. What was wrong with it wasn't that you were generalizing men as X, but rather that you generalized people that were manipulated as X. Fucking idiot. That's what I fucking addressed.
1 Rubissrox 2018-03-23
Oh you care when roasties and femoids are manipulated too? You're pretty cool.
1 Subhumanvoice 2018-03-23
Just stop talking if you've got nothing to say
1 Rubissrox 2018-03-23
Nah I'm good.
1 darudeboysandstorm 2018-03-23
I mean I think people should be held responsible for their actions. Can you hold a scam artist responsible for stealing your grandmas retirement? Yes, just because your grandma is an idiot doesn't make it ok to take advantage of her.
1 IncelSlayerZero 2018-03-23
Men make better, more relatable friends. I was just hanging out with a couple of guys who complained that this one friend was always bringing his girlfriend by. We can't be our true selves around her, she just made things awkward by being there lol. Now I have no problem with her and chatted with her a bit, but honestly I'd rather her not be there. I'll make female friends, but we have to be dating. At that point you technically become friends anyway lol. I honestly don't have much of a problem getting with women, but they make me nervous and uncomfortable in general lol. They'd never know this, though.
1 Shashank_Narayan 2018-03-23
Then how is it that millions of other men don't feel like that around women? Just because YOU'RE having a problem, doesn't mean that all women are at fault
1 IncelSlayerZero 2018-03-23
What did I blame them for? Besides my own discomfort, we usually don't have the same interests. Why the butthurt? I think men make better friends, it's my opinion, who gives a fuck? I'll send those foids your way so you can talk about her abusive bf and dancing with the stars. Just LOL.
1 methaferus 2018-03-23
Thats not what he was saying. Calm down all he's saying is that he doesnt want female friends. Nothing wrong with that and i, frankly, agree.
1 Mest666 2018-03-23
you should just be yourself 100% and scare the shit of this slut so she stops annoying you all, JUST THE FUCK DO IT
1 IncelSlayerZero 2018-03-23
Honestly it isn't her fault and she's a nice person. I'd rather just hang out with the guys, though.
1 Mest666 2018-03-23
she destroys you relations with your friends
1 IncelSlayerZero 2018-03-23
Nah she comes to pick up some trees with her man and leaves like a half hour later. My true self isn't going to scare her, but I can't go off talking about hoes and slays and all other kinds of nonsense I can discuss with my boys.
1 Jcart105 2018-03-23
Pretty sure everyone understands that quite fundamentally well, you misunderstood the point of the post.
I'll spell it out for you, platonic friendships with women for men lead to fundamentally disadvantageous outcomes for men on average.
1 Shashank_Narayan 2018-03-23
But you've seriously misunderstood the original comic, which talks about casual friendships, but you interpreted it as a comic talking platonic friendships. This led to a confusion on both sides, mainly for your side
1 Jcart105 2018-03-23
You're just playing with semantics at this point. Casual and platonic, in this context, are strongly synonymous.
1 Shashank_Narayan 2018-03-23
Platonic also pertains to love, while casual friendships, is you know, casual. According to your logic, a casual friendship with a dude is platonic?
1 Jcart105 2018-03-23
I am just not going to respond to this if the best argument you can formulate is fucking semantics of all things.
Isn't that the end result, and is that not how effectively everyone else connotatively interprets it? The fact you have to overreach for something like the semantics of all things just magnifies the fact that you have no real argument that can attack the core of what this meme/depiction is displaying.
1 Shashank_Narayan 2018-03-23
Weren't you the person who said that casual and platonic were similar? You contradicted yourself, and are trying to cover it up, by making some bullshit semantics excuse
1 Jcart105 2018-03-23
In this particular context, they pretty much are connotatively similar and synonymous. Look, everyone else interpreted it to be that way (because that's how the term is commonly understood), including Gynocentric ITears Brigaders.
Something makes me think that you're some Indian woman who commonly friend-zones and abuses men and that this particular meme was very relevant to how poorly you treat others.
1 Shashank_Narayan 2018-03-23
Youve just proved your dumbass side with those last few lines. I'm not a woman, and why does your dumb ass think that an Indian woman must be some friend zoner, or some abuser. All Indian women I've seen are kind, and that last line aptly describes your problem. You treat them like shit half the time, maybe that's why they treat you back like that. Generalization is just stupid. And how are casual and platonic similar in any way? No normal person thinks of humping a girl with whom they're casual friends with, nothing is sexual. Casual, is what the word is;casual
1 Jcart105 2018-03-23
I now know why they call India 'Cuckistan'.
1 DankIncel 2018-03-23
kek. I tried explaining to them that friendship and sex are different things in the post on the left. They downvoted the fuck out of me JFL!!
1 physicalmishap 2018-03-23
How can it be "platonic" when obviously the woman was leading the man on
1 TruthInBlack 2018-03-23
It's never platonic because the femoid is always leading the man on to get free shit from him. Femoid whores are absolute scum.
1 physicalmishap 2018-03-23
It's also never platonic because men just want to get their dicks wet. It's impossible for them to be "just friends"
1 c0d3s1ing3r 2018-03-23
I feel like both of these are extremes. While it is a logical fallacy to assume the truth lies in the middle, it probably does in this case, even more toward the example on the left.
My evidence is anecdotal but hey, I've had some pretty fantastic female friends over the years.
1 Jcart105 2018-03-23
Case in point, don't be friends with women unless you are directly receiving tangible or measurable benefits from them.
1 c0d3s1ing3r 2018-03-23
People value emotional relationships differently. Emotional support is inherently difficult to quantify because of this but remains a significant part of how people define friendships.
Similarly, people expect different things out of relationships. While I would expect a friend (at least a good one) to go out of their way to help me at times, others have no problem having friends of convenience.
I personally dislike any friendships where there is some tangible reason for remaining friends with them, I'm friends with people because they satisfy a very basal need for human interaction and because I "like" them for them. (These are cases where you're "only friends with someone for their wealth/status" or have a relationship with someone where you may meet and exchange information but it's always tit for tat)
So if we say there is no means (at least no consistent or subjective means) for quantifying how much another person helps you with your emotional and overall well-being, it really comes down to what you want out of a friendship and whether or not the other person is meeting these criteria.
1 ClintonShockTrooper 2018-03-23
Link to her ig??? I need to see how attractive she is to warrant such a beta cuck orbiter for my study. I'm trying to develop a theory behind the pareto distribution (80/20) rule when it comes to women and men.
1 ropeismylasthope 2018-03-23
It's all love to her because she is the one benefiting but imagine that the roles get reversed and Chad friend zones her and let's her foot the bill. It wouldn't be "all love" after that, would it ?
1 slothsenpai 2018-03-23
Friendship doesn't lead to sex and befriending women for the sake of sex is something that nice guy tms would do. There's a literal difference in dynamic between how you talk to women when conversing with them as friends and how you actually flirt with women to proposition them with sex.
1 Jcart105 2018-03-23
I don't think you understand the point I was trying to make. The point is that friendships with women oftentimes are toxic and disadvantageous to men, even if it's well-understood that the friendship is platonic at best.
1 slothsenpai 2018-03-23
I get that but was merely addressing the IT part where they say befriending women will somehow lead to sex or some shit. Personally, my female mates are cool where there's no orbiting or any of the whiteknighting shit involved, unlike I see in a lot of male-female nerd friendships
1 Subhumanvoice 2018-03-23
What was implied is that this kind of manipulation happens often. Women know when we're interested In them, but they pretend not to and manipulate us and then call us "entitled" when we catch on to what's happening.
1 Subhumanvoice 2018-03-23
Just stop talking if you've got nothing to say