Literally the farthest thing from the truth, it doesn’t matter if a guy’s face is ugly it’s only bad for ugly women because men only care about looks but women look for other attributes in men other than their face and looks.
I guess the numerous statistics that have been brought up here showing unanimously that women judge men on looks than personality, you have set on 'ignore'.
Women are the most judgmental creatures on the planet.
Wow, I disagree, I think we’re all extremely judgmental, both men and women. I mean you’re literally generalizing all women and judging them right now. I used to think exactly the way you do, that I was ugly, that no woman ever pays attention to me, I’m always the nice guy etc... but I learned that even if your unattractive, you can clean up well, you can be seen as someone who enjoys their life (which is attractive btw) instead of someone constantly angry at the world and how he was delt a shitty hand. If you’re not where you want to be in life then it shows in your personality and believe it or not, your looks too. I was overweight, unattractive, living in a shithole with a shit job and decided enough was enough, I lost the weight, actually applied for the job I wanted and got it (you miss 100% of all opportunities you don’t take) and cleaned up in general. I have the same face, but somehow I actually get tinder matches now and I find myself surrounded by women a lot more. I recommend the book, Models by Mark Manson. I think you should widen your perspective.
Great book, but I would reccomend it for good looking men who are socially awkward or had, got into PUA, had a rough upbringing or need some kind of reprogramminh with regard to women and dating.
I think honest lifestyle and honest expression works well...if you're already attractive.
Woah woah woah, I’m not sexist to men tbh I’m way far from it, I hate the feminazi movement and allot of wha they stand for is complete bullshit. But I still respect women. As for why are women sexual selectors? Well I never said men aren’t either. All I’m saying is attraction exists for a reason and if you’re not attractive physically, there are other ways of achieving that
The female mammal is the sexual selector in every gender. They have the burden of reproduction, unlike men. Henceforth, they are careful with who they fuck with, by instinct.
Looks is literally your base, you can either be a massive autist and lower it a bit or you can be the smoothest pickup artist and it'll increase a bit. Incels don't even get to try...
Don't patronize me. You don't know where I come from or what I've experienced. Your bluepille "lift, haircut, shower, confidence bruh" is nothing but an illusion. And no, you never have thought exactly as I do.
I'm skinny. I prefer clean cut and short hair. I bath daily. I don't exercise, but even when I did I never gained muscle mass. I'm short, with a face that resembles the kid from Gummo. (Floundered, as I call it). I work a job that isn't fulfilling, but pays enough to keep me coming back, and has benefits, the first job I've ever had with them. I've been rejected by every girl I've asked out, have been told on more than one occasion that I'm not attractive, and have neither the social skills or circle needed to actually be around a large amount of women so as to even level the chances in my favour.
Do not presume that we are the same. Me and you are nothing alike.
Looks matter, but to be fair, the only statistics ever shown on incel discussions are ones from tinder. Of course looks are the only fucking thing that matter on tinder, that's literally the only way the initial selection is made. confirmation bias
if women aren't shallow, why aren't they swiping based on the guy's profile and giving him a chance?
Are men swiping based on the woman's profile? WAKE UP.
if men are more shallow, then why is it that men swipe right so much more often than women? on chicks far uglier than they are?
If men on tinder are desperate and have lower standards than the women, so be it. Woman can afford to be choosier. I'm not sure if I have to explain your own biology to you, but women are the selectors, and they have suitors. They choose among their suitors. This means men pursue more women, and women will be pursued by more men. Welcome to being a human. Denying your reality has not been useful to you thus far.
You are surprised that women are pickier than men? You mean the women that can get pregnant and bear children and have so much more to lose? The ones who tend to get slut-shamed for having sex? You wonder why they are wired to be choosier?
/u/just_for_the_record I've noticed you have been responding to other people, why are you ignoring me? Can't come up with a good response? Are men swiping based on a woman's profile?
You're just moving the goal posts. This is not a debate over whether or not men are shallow. You're using literally the starter pack techniques to getting out of an argument you lost.
You are blaming women for being shallow, when your own logic suggests men are just as shallow (they're actually more superficial, but we'll leave that aside for now).
Why is it ok for a man to be shallow but not a woman? You realize you're literally just butthurt that you're not being selected right?
You mean that video of a guy standing on books, or the article that didn't involve any study? Yeah that was really insightful data.
Why do women wear makeup and obsess about their clothing, unless if men weren't more shallow? Men don't nearly have to put in that much work to look good. Why?
Why do women wear makeup and obsess about their clothing, unless if men weren't more shallow?
You do realize women do that for other women and not men right? No man gives a shit what someones eyebrows look like or the colour of their nails or what brand she is wearing. Women do that to impress other women.
Lmao I’m more picky when it comes to women than the majority of my female friends. You’re just self deluding yourself and constantly trying to convince yourself that you will amount to nothing. Very sad
You're just moving the goal posts. This is not a debate over whether or not men are shallow. You're using literally the starter pack techniques to getting out of an argument you lost.
You are blaming women for being shallow, when your own logic suggests men are just as shallow (they're actually more superficial, but we'll leave that aside for now).
Why is it ok for a man to be shallow but not a woman? You realize you're literally just butthurt that you're not being selected right?
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1 finnanut27 2018-03-23
Lmao
1 alec7491 2018-03-23
chofl
1 a7madib 2018-03-23
Literally the farthest thing from the truth, it doesn’t matter if a guy’s face is ugly it’s only bad for ugly women because men only care about looks but women look for other attributes in men other than their face and looks.
1 NightmareOfMensis 2018-03-23
I guess the numerous statistics that have been brought up here showing unanimously that women judge men on looks than personality, you have set on 'ignore'.
Women are the most judgmental creatures on the planet.
1 a7madib 2018-03-23
Wow, I disagree, I think we’re all extremely judgmental, both men and women. I mean you’re literally generalizing all women and judging them right now. I used to think exactly the way you do, that I was ugly, that no woman ever pays attention to me, I’m always the nice guy etc... but I learned that even if your unattractive, you can clean up well, you can be seen as someone who enjoys their life (which is attractive btw) instead of someone constantly angry at the world and how he was delt a shitty hand. If you’re not where you want to be in life then it shows in your personality and believe it or not, your looks too. I was overweight, unattractive, living in a shithole with a shit job and decided enough was enough, I lost the weight, actually applied for the job I wanted and got it (you miss 100% of all opportunities you don’t take) and cleaned up in general. I have the same face, but somehow I actually get tinder matches now and I find myself surrounded by women a lot more. I recommend the book, Models by Mark Manson. I think you should widen your perspective.
1 genetic_scrap 2018-03-23
Read that actually.
Great book, but I would reccomend it for good looking men who are socially awkward or had, got into PUA, had a rough upbringing or need some kind of reprogramminh with regard to women and dating.
I think honest lifestyle and honest expression works well...if you're already attractive.
Good book, won't help an incel though.
1 Broad_Gaming 2018-03-23
This is you.
Also you. Why are you so sexist to men? And why would you think that women, the sexual selectors, don't want genetic quality (looks)?
1 a7madib 2018-03-23
Woah woah woah, I’m not sexist to men tbh I’m way far from it, I hate the feminazi movement and allot of wha they stand for is complete bullshit. But I still respect women. As for why are women sexual selectors? Well I never said men aren’t either. All I’m saying is attraction exists for a reason and if you’re not attractive physically, there are other ways of achieving that
1 Broad_Gaming 2018-03-23
The female mammal is the sexual selector in every gender. They have the burden of reproduction, unlike men. Henceforth, they are careful with who they fuck with, by instinct.
Looks is literally your base, you can either be a massive autist and lower it a bit or you can be the smoothest pickup artist and it'll increase a bit. Incels don't even get to try...
1 NightmareOfMensis 2018-03-23
Damn it, I actually agree with you on this. :/
1 just_for_the_record 2018-03-23
What are you even talking about
1 NightmareOfMensis 2018-03-23
Don't patronize me. You don't know where I come from or what I've experienced. Your bluepille "lift, haircut, shower, confidence bruh" is nothing but an illusion. And no, you never have thought exactly as I do.
I'm skinny. I prefer clean cut and short hair. I bath daily. I don't exercise, but even when I did I never gained muscle mass. I'm short, with a face that resembles the kid from Gummo. (Floundered, as I call it). I work a job that isn't fulfilling, but pays enough to keep me coming back, and has benefits, the first job I've ever had with them. I've been rejected by every girl I've asked out, have been told on more than one occasion that I'm not attractive, and have neither the social skills or circle needed to actually be around a large amount of women so as to even level the chances in my favour.
Do not presume that we are the same. Me and you are nothing alike.
1 just_for_the_record 2018-03-23
If you had any idea the difference in the level of intellect between yourself and the people you're talking to.
facells are fakecells
incells are not people who refused to try. they are people who tried everything.
1 LibStealingSpic 2018-03-23
Why would you suggest people to read a book from some normie "who had a bad time with girls", i torrented that shit and it's fucking useless
1 a7madib 2018-03-23
Bro you’re a lost cause, I’m sorry
1 LibStealingSpic 2018-03-23
Go fuck yourself you scamming cunt
1 a7madib 2018-03-23
Down to an insult? Hmm I guess you have nothing more to say.
1 MotivationHacker 2018-03-23
Looks matter, but to be fair, the only statistics ever shown on incel discussions are ones from tinder. Of course looks are the only fucking thing that matter on tinder, that's literally the only way the initial selection is made. confirmation bias
1 NightmareOfMensis 2018-03-23
http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=123853&page=1
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbG05ePWRQE
Statistical data has also been collected by other dating sites, like eHarmony and Match.
1 _youtubot_ 2018-03-23
Video linked by /u/NightmareOfMensis:
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1 MotivationHacker 2018-03-23
More online dating references? Do you live the real world, outside of your computer?
This is your hard evidence?
1 LeonardoDecockrio 2018-03-23
Do you live in 1955? Everybody dates online now
1 MotivationHacker 2018-03-23
Everybody? Everybody? Wake the fuck up. Not a single person here is dating and yet you still defend online dating.
1 NightmareOfMensis 2018-03-23
Piss off you disingenuous schmuck.
1 Sniveling_Cur 2018-03-23
Friendly reminder, when normie says "To be fair" it's synonymous with "To cope"
1 MotivationHacker 2018-03-23
That's the biggest cope I've heard -- ignoring the logic
1 just_for_the_record 2018-03-23
if women aren't shallow, why aren't they swiping based on the guy's profile and giving him a chance?
if men are more shallow, then why is it that men swipe right so much more often than women? on chicks far uglier than they are?
you're just ignoring what's in front of you
1 MotivationHacker 2018-03-23
Are men swiping based on the woman's profile? WAKE UP.
If men on tinder are desperate and have lower standards than the women, so be it. Woman can afford to be choosier. I'm not sure if I have to explain your own biology to you, but women are the selectors, and they have suitors. They choose among their suitors. This means men pursue more women, and women will be pursued by more men. Welcome to being a human. Denying your reality has not been useful to you thus far.
You are surprised that women are pickier than men? You mean the women that can get pregnant and bear children and have so much more to lose? The ones who tend to get slut-shamed for having sex? You wonder why they are wired to be choosier?
1 just_for_the_record 2018-03-23
See this is how easy it is to defeat you guys. You're already blackpilled and you're trying to fight the blackpill.
You can't say that women judge men more harshly on things like looks and say that they aren't shallow at the same time. You just defeated yourself.
1 MotivationHacker 2018-03-23
Don't deflect.
Are men swiping based on the woman's profile? Tell me. Are they?
1 just_for_the_record 2018-03-23
1 MotivationHacker 2018-03-23
I have a very simple response for you, I'm waiting for you to respond to the point you deflected before I continue
Are men swiping based on the woman's profile? Tell me. Are they?
1 MotivationHacker 2018-03-23
/u/just_for_the_record I've noticed you have been responding to other people, why are you ignoring me? Can't come up with a good response? Are men swiping based on a woman's profile?
1 just_for_the_record 2018-03-23
You're just moving the goal posts. This is not a debate over whether or not men are shallow. You're using literally the starter pack techniques to getting out of an argument you lost.
1 MotivationHacker 2018-03-23
You are blaming women for being shallow, when your own logic suggests men are just as shallow (they're actually more superficial, but we'll leave that aside for now).
Why is it ok for a man to be shallow but not a woman? You realize you're literally just butthurt that you're not being selected right?
1 just_for_the_record 2018-03-23
The data shows that women are more superficial. You already admitted it. They judge men more harshly on looks than men judge them.
I'm not butthurt about anything. I'm better looking than you are.
1 MotivationHacker 2018-03-23
Link me to this data please
Haha, cute. Pretending to troll because you're losing the argument and running out of tactics to pull.
1 just_for_the_record 2018-03-23
This is a waste of time. Next please.
1 MotivationHacker 2018-03-23
= has no evidence
Men care more about looks than women. I look forward to you trying to prove me wrong.
1 just_for_the_record 2018-03-23
Someone literally gave you multiple sources and you are pretending you didn't see it for the sake of argument.
This is a waste of time. Next please.
1 MotivationHacker 2018-03-23
You mean that video of a guy standing on books, or the article that didn't involve any study? Yeah that was really insightful data.
Why do women wear makeup and obsess about their clothing, unless if men weren't more shallow? Men don't nearly have to put in that much work to look good. Why?
1 just_for_the_record 2018-03-23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KALd3ynNH60
1 destiny-draw 2018-03-23
You do realize women do that for other women and not men right? No man gives a shit what someones eyebrows look like or the colour of their nails or what brand she is wearing. Women do that to impress other women.
1 MotivationHacker 2018-03-23
Yes women try to look pretty for other women lmao
Either a troll or a new level of cope
1 a7madib 2018-03-23
Lmao I’m more picky when it comes to women than the majority of my female friends. You’re just self deluding yourself and constantly trying to convince yourself that you will amount to nothing. Very sad
1 just_for_the_record 2018-03-23
ok trump
1 FATTYFTWman 2018-03-23
Yes for example: Status, Money, Stability and isn’t fucking mental.
1 IncelistanWillRise 2018-03-23
That is not true at all normo
1 just_for_the_record 2018-03-23
the data says the opposite. that women are far more shallow than men. holding out for men who are superior to them.
1 anincelforlifelol 2018-03-23
Congratulations. You're a complete moron.
1 Sataris 2018-03-23
Funny but jesus christ what poor execution. This is the sort of meme you'd buy at a dollar store
1 thegillenator 2018-03-23
Looks like it was made by a currycel with broken english
1 just_for_the_record 2018-03-23
You're just moving the goal posts. This is not a debate over whether or not men are shallow. You're using literally the starter pack techniques to getting out of an argument you lost.
1 MotivationHacker 2018-03-23
You are blaming women for being shallow, when your own logic suggests men are just as shallow (they're actually more superficial, but we'll leave that aside for now).
Why is it ok for a man to be shallow but not a woman? You realize you're literally just butthurt that you're not being selected right?
1 just_for_the_record 2018-03-23
Someone literally gave you multiple sources and you are pretending you didn't see it for the sake of argument.
This is a waste of time. Next please.