you can't give advice to people who's situation you have never remotely been in or could be in

I want to date a woman but can't!

Then

Women give the shittiest dating advice

Kek

I know you don't.

That cuck you are talking to is the mod from IT.

IT has proven their 🐳 catching ability

I would ask the woman, since they aren't fish.

No, that would be worth a lot of money.

U could atleast try harder

Wow, an autist IT user, that’s a surprise.

this is bait

Lol at a normie using kek

kek

You should listen to the advice of your fellow incels. They are the absolute pinnacle of knowledge when it comes to dating.

That statement is a contradiction

No way!

Not true. Women will tell you what they want if you ask. Whether you believe them or not is on you.

Maybe some women, sure. Not all women talk in bizarre riddles. But again, sweeping generalizations, so this is probably as far as we can go.

It’s like a magic wand, isn’t it? Whenever someone tells the truth, you can just say it’s a generalization.

That's how life works. I understand that incels operate on some Geth level hivemind, but normal people are actually individuals who may not completely confirm to your generalization. It's crazy, I know.

Like I remember when this one loser went off and killed a bunch of people, think his name was Elliot rodgers or something. There were a few incels who feverishly defended him and even idolized him.

I guess that applies to every single incel. I remember this one incel offed himself and was goaded by a few members in the community. I guess every last incel advocates for suicide and are actually suicide enablers.

You can just come to incels, and ask if everyone agrees with suicide as a good solution. Some incels will say yes, some will say no. I for example believe that suicide is an option for the individual, and it should be a legal option for everyone.

But you won’t find an honest woman, that’s for sure. I for example have never seen one. I think it’s mostly because they are physically weaker, and in the past they had to resort to other means if those meant survival. But the fact that women constantly lie, I don’t think can be questioned.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. You can't just wave a magic wand whenever someone tells you the truth.

All incels are women hating, Elliot Rodger supporting, perma-virgin, suicide enablers. I don't think that can be questioned.

As I said, there is a difference. Not that you understand. You actually have to have a very high IQ to understand my thoughts.

But I thought incels had inferior genetics. Are you subhumans actually capable of having a high IQ? I remember seeing a post from this one autistic incel who was having trouble coping with rejection.

I guess all incels are autistic now. This magic wand sure is cool.

Tell me about that incel

Not much to say. He was an incel, though didn't seem quite as woman-hating so there was still hope for him. He seemed genuinely sad and confused as he appeared to lack the capacity to navigate socializing well. He was given positive reinforcement by "normies" and mostly negative reinforcement by incels who more or less told him his life was over and were spamming "cope" at any sort of positive advice he received.

It was pretty sad actually.

Why is he wearing a mask?

What, you want me to go find the thread? I didn't even post in it. Who knows where it is anymore. It's more effort to dig up than it's worth. It won't change anything regardless.

Lot of loyalty for a normie

Not even sure what you're on about but I have the feeling it may be dumb.

At least you can talk. Who are you?

...Yeah I think this is dumb.

If I stop replying, will you die?

How will a woman tell a man what she wants when women have no idea what they want or what makes them happy?

Case in point: are you a stay at home mom?

Do you know what you want? If you're expecting all women to know exactly what they're looking for 100% of the time then you aren't setting very realistic expectations. If all you want is sex then you can't blame girls for going for attractive guys for that purpose, would you not do the same given the choice? It seems to me like you are expecting much more of women than they should be expecting from you, so why would they choose you in the first place?

Yes, I do know what I want.

It seems to me like you are expecting much more of women than they should be expecting from you, so why would they choose you in the first place?

Not an incel; I’ve been chosen many times.

By your own logic, wouldn't lesbians give better advice than straight women?

this is bait

And IT, they've mastered 🐳 calls

Yep. So many amazing options nowadays. Between braincels and inceltears becoming Chad has never been easier.

Well, since women aren't fish perhaps they might tell you what kind of things they prefer in a partner.

When they give advice, there some you're chad. "Just approch me and ask me to get coffee"

"Ew I can't believe that guy approached me living life as a woman is living life on the defense WE MOST TEAR DOWN THIS PATRIARCHY"

Asking anyone with a talent or inherent gift for something for advice is always a bad idea. It's also why if you look at the best coaches for sports teams, they were always mediocre/shit players in their playing career. For them, they had to struggle, strive, and truly understand every aspect of the game to compete with the naturally gifted.

Even from first hand experience, when people ask me advice on stuff I'm inherently good at, I'm at a complete loss for giving advice because wtf do I know, it just comes to me without me even trying.

So yeah, girls and successful guys in the dating pool can't really give good advice because they never truly had to figure things out.

Zidane? Guardiola?

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Guardola generally just ended up at clubs with the greatest teams in their league. Guardiola's Barca was literally just a continuation of all of Rijkaard's work. Winning the Bundesliga with Bayern at the time he was there is like winning the Championship as a top flight club. Guardiola is a fucking charlatan and nowhere near as great a coach as he's made out to be.

Zizou is in charge of Madrid, literally one of the deepest pocketed clubs of all time that literally buys the greatest superstars from around the world for fun. We'll see how he does over several years.

One thing to note, both of these players were more central midfielder types, not necessarily known for pure athleticism. They were the more creative forces behind the team, but interestingly enough football is a game with positions that have a greater breadth of talent required and roles to fill. It's not really surprising that the world class players who end up becoming better coaches are also from more cerebral and analytical positions. Maradona is arguably one of the greatest players to have ever lived, but he was a shit coach. Now look at Diego Simeone, and anchorman, who achieved a lot for what he was given (especially with his star players always being poached by rich clubs).

Looking at the overall picture, great coaches weren't great players the vast majority of the time, and if they are they're usually CM/DM.

I bet a couple of decades from now if Messi ever decides to be a coach, he'll be shit.

my future wife

way out of her league

cant hold down a stable attractive man

whooo boy i bet ladies are falling in like to suck your cock.

WHEW LAD ITS A SPICY ONE

stroke that micro ✍✍✍

What an astonishingly pointless comment

What if your future wife is out there and is also a bitter virgin and not getting banged by a bunch of dudes out of her league? Or getting banged by ugly dudes directly in her league?

The few virgin girls who are older than 18 are just waiting for GigaChad.

What is gigachad anyway? Three chads in a trenchcoat?

The gigachad? Been a long time since I heard that name. And even then, we spoke of Him with fear and in hushed whispers. Legend has it He will come and rapture all the females of the world unto Him. He will arm wrestle all subpar Chads beneath him into submission. Leaving only us, the most beta of nice guys. And then what will become of us?

When you're a bit older, more girls are going to start paying you attention

This is the fucking worst advice out of all of them. Not only is it opposite of being true, it also sets you up being a miserable wagecuck.

When you're a bit older, more girls are going to start paying you attention

Read: Work extremely hard at making a lot of money for over a decade of your youth while never getting the opportunity to have any form of intimacy with a female and maybe you can be the living ATM for a female who spent those same years being pumped and dumped by literal miles worth of Chad cocks.

No thanks.

literal miles worth of Chad cocks.

If we said the average dick is 10 inches, which is being extremely generous to say the least, it would take someone 6336 sex acts to take a “mile” of cock. 12,672 for two miles, since you said plural. If a woman had sex once per day every day nonstop, that would take almost 35 years to finish. Let’s be generous to you again and say the average age of starting to have sex is 14. That would mean they’d be 48 before taking miles of cock unless they averaged more than one per day. The average age of marriage in the USA is 27 for women. They’d need to be taking an average of 2.67 dicks per day for it to be “literal miles”. A lot more when you consider the fact that the average dick is much smaller than 10 inches and the average age of losing virginity is higher.

So don’t worry, not literal miles :)

Are you retarded? You are not accounting for the fact that sexual intercourses consist of a plethora of thrusts. It's not just 10 inches per intercourse session.

You don’t just stick it in and wait?

Also yes

/r/theydidthemath

How do you plan on making money besides being a “wagecuck”, aka a person with a job?

Pretty sure he meant betabux instead of wagecuck

Wagecucking is the worst way to make money. Investing or starting your own business is much more preferable.

Uh... actually, starting your own business is a really great way to end up finding out what it's like to live on ramen with no health insurance and no vacation time for years. It's a super dangerous idea. You're a lot better off using whatever ability you have to make friends and influence people to secure a job that lets you actually have the money to do things you like to do and have time to do them in.

I grew up as the child of a startup founder. Even when it was doing well (it was in a tech field, they were making something literally nobody else could make and had some of the best and brightest in the industry working for them) they spent most of their time having to put in ungodly amounts of overtime just to keep things on line. They were a slave to the venture capitalists who invested in the startup - btw, starting companies is really expensive?

And then the economy tanked, and they ended up having to sell the company. Bam! Not our own business anymore.

Don't recommend plans you clearly haven't thought through in detail, man. This plan's a bad one.

Don't recommend plans you clearly haven't thought through in detail, man.

Incels have no families that depend on them, which makes us perfect risk takers. If a business fails we can always still feed ourselves with a shitty job. I'm already doing this and it's way better than a 9-5 job. Yes there's no "off time" but you're not working constantly either, you choose your own breaks. Being incel already means you have tons of time that you would otherwise need to spend on wife/kids. I believe it's a good fit.

Hm. Not living in the US does give you a huge advantage, actually. I think the protections here for people taking financial risks are particularly nonexistent.

By vacation, I mean time to visit family on holidays etc, not huge fancy trips. Do you not even have friends you would want to take the time to visit?

Startups also vary in intensity. If you're not in active manufacturing of product, you can afford to take time off schedule more frequently.

The few friends I have are all a few hours away at most. Same with family.

I'm not talking about big startups. Unless you are already well off good luck getting financing for that shit. I'm providing professional services. Pretty much no sunk costs, easy to start on your own.

Ah, ok. That makes more sense.

Why do I always see average/below average or fat guys with attractive women?

You heavily overestimate the looks of a female due fake-up.

Females are naturally seen as extremely attractive to males. I mean a female that would be a 5/10 is somewhere near in the bottom 30 percent. Well asmen are seen as the opposite so a man in the 65 percentile is only a 5/10. Because of that even if you see a couple where the male is objectively in a better percentile you still subjectively find that he is the ugly one. And since 90% of couples are like that, you think that its ugly men getting hot woman.

Because only a tiny % of men are attractive.

Easy: you're not attracted to men so your rating scale for them is whack.

Uhh, no. Can you not tell if a guy is attractive or good looking? Can't be that insecure in your sexuality man.

Oh, no, I'm very, very secure in my sexuality, by which I mean the vast majority of men are hot and the majority of women are not. Logically, I tend to think of individual guys as more attractive than people who are mostly attracted to women do.

You seriously just said the vast majority of guys are hot? Lol. I think that's bullshit. You guys see chad where ever you look so that's all you see. Everyone here seems to be fucking obsessed with "hot" guys so this doesn't come as a surprise.

I don't like the toned aesthetic and square-jawed movie-actor-type faces bore me, so I doubt any incel typical of the title would think to flag the guys I'm interested in as 'chads' without knowing I was into them.

I like the shapes guy bodies can come in. There are a lot of them. Hence, even if I do sometimes like chads, most guys are not gonna be bc I like a wide variety of different things. My erotica folder looks like an artist's drawing reference collection. (...which it does serve double duty as, but still...)

Women only think about things in terms of other women. They know as little about men as we know about women.

Getting a date is like getting a job; it's not what you know it's who you know. Also looks matter more than they should but no one can ride on looks alone unless they are godly.

Of course they give shitty advice. They have no fucking experience being a man in the first place

No-Holds-Barred Translation guide:

"Be yourself." -> "Relax. When you're tense or desperate for action, it shows. Don't try to perform for women. Treat them just like you would treat another guy you're trying to make friends with."

[Story about how they met their BF] -> "I think of you as a perfectly average dude. I think of my boyfriend as a perfectly average dude. I think you're on the bad end of a statistics problem because you're not interacting with enough folks that the probabilities add up in your favor." Also of note: not all couples are "guy asked." It's still less common, but women will also ask guys when they think the guy isn't likely to have a negative reaction.

"When you're older" -> "You're a teen or twentysomething who needs to work on your decision-making skills and socialising before you can handle a real relationship. Also, whatever cues I used to determine this are pretty obvious."

[Woman has sex with some guys before she gets into a consistent relationship] -> It is not normal to marry your first sexual partner. It is even less common for one to marry their first relationship partner. This is true for all genders and sexualities. While there are definitely people who "settle," they're acting in a way that's essentially predatory. The love someone has for one person doesn't take away from the love they have for another. People are not interchangeable. If your partner seems to treat them as such, you're better off alone.

"You need to work on your personality" -> "You're such a raging asshole that having an extended conversation with you is unpleasant."

Like, most LTRs are between people who met as friends? You don't need to be attractive for that, you just need to be empathetic and kind. Relationships of any sort require an exchange of emotional energy. If you're not ready to pony up, you're not going to get anything in return. Equivalent exchange!

Amazing comment

THIS. Read this.

What a cartoonish view of the world you have.

What do you mean by 'cartoonish'?

Seems like you get your views on relationships from Disney films.

It is not normal to marry your first sexual partner. It is even less common for one to marry their first relationship partner. This is true for all genders and sexualities.

I've clearly missed something remarkable, because my impression was that disney characters marry their first partner like 90% of the time.

Also, I've actually been in relationships before and you (based on the username) haven't. I've watched people get into and get out of relationships, and sleep around, and all sorts of stupid fucking-related things. The thing I'm 'translating' is at a minimum so boiled down it's useless for anything, and at worst blatantly wrong. People are definitely horrible, they're just not disney-bully-character horrible.

Not true. Women will tell you what they want if you ask. Whether you believe them or not is on you.

By your own logic, wouldn't lesbians give better advice than straight women?

At least you can talk. Who are you?

You heavily overestimate the looks of a female due fake-up.

Females are naturally seen as extremely attractive to males. I mean a female that would be a 5/10 is somewhere near in the bottom 30 percent. Well asmen are seen as the opposite so a man in the 65 percentile is only a 5/10. Because of that even if you see a couple where the male is objectively in a better percentile you still subjectively find that he is the ugly one. And since 90% of couples are like that, you think that its ugly men getting hot woman.

Because only a tiny % of men are attractive.

Easy: you're not attracted to men so your rating scale for them is whack.