JFC dude... most normies are not in cuck or "open relationships". The vast majority of people end up in healthy, loving, monogamous relationships.

extremely inflated due to people's 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and so on marriages. The people who do get divorced skew the stat up to "50% or so of "marriages end in divorce", but it's misleading.

The divorce rate...ha! which of the two genders initiate the divorce the most? LMFAO @ normies.

Normies alway btfo'd by statistics

Cope

those aren't beta buxxed relationships, you don't think?

Lol at this coping faggot

You can't say shit if you're doing nothing to refute his claims. Are we just supposed to think what you're saying is valid because your covering your ears and screaming like a child?

Hahahahhaahahahhaa

Yeah, so healthy and loving that half of them end up divorced.

fucking bravo

Congrats on a top tier post

I had to fan myself while reading this.

Fucking hell...

Can confirm

This sub gets the blood pumping

I’ve thought about the same thing in the past few days, glad you made a post about it.

Any girl can have sex within an hour if she wanted to but how many men can do the same? Effectively every male is incel to some degree, some more, some less. There is no equality between men and women in the sexual market place.

True, I've mentioned this on the old sub

No female on earth can be incel for longer than approximately 10 minutes

This is where all these memes of "relationships not being about sex" come from. You know, even though sex is literally the only thing which separates "the relationship" from any other kind of relationship(acquaintanceship, colleagueship, roommateship, etc)

Majority of men will end up betabuxing for women who are just not attracted to them. If the physical attraction is not there, we are essentially talking about roommates. When picking a roommate what is important? Well, how "easy they are to live with". Cue all the normtard advice about how important it is to find someone "nice" who shares your worldview and beliefs.

Since this happens to majority of men, and what is normal is simply decided by majority vote, this becomes the new social norm.

Boom. Marriages were historically more about convenience than true passion, only in the past 50 years have we attempted to redress the same process as a selection of grander things since the addition of personal choice tricks people into thinking the calculus behind finding marriage partners is any different.

There is some truth to this, but tbh it's also cope.

There are couples out there that are looksmatched and stick together for life, they're just rare. I've seen way to many of them to find this sub8 thing to be a decent cope.

looksmatched and stick together for life

Doesn't mean they're satisfied. They would all jump ship given the opportunity.

That's the legit truecel life, and a lot of guys on here aren't actually at that tier of ugliness. I remember some pictures from the old sub.

Chad always wins. Normies think of us as pathetic virgins. Chad thinks of normies the same way.

I was very surprised some of the brigading normies actually posted comments below supporting your OP. This proves that the blackpill just needs to be presented properly, and the normies will see the logic in it.

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Cucked subreddits like IncelTears, that constantly brigade male spaces, are the epitome of how the Gynocentric female imperative will always rise and come to fruition, even if there isn't any real purpose for it (nobody here is going out and brigading female/Gynocentric subreddits, and we usually just keep to ourselves). Those retards literally call their subreddit a "watchdog" subreddit -- basically a euphemism for "I have no fucking life, so I make myself feel better by making fun of other people with nothing going on in their life and try to demonstrate moral superiority by pretending to care about them and provide them advice.

This is too much for coping normies.

"Effectively, there is no difference between

"Will she still offer you sex if you stop providing her material and emotional resources? Will she let you fuck her whenever, however, and wherever you want, regardless of the circumstances? If you punch her in the face and give her a black eye, will she call the cops on you, or will she forgive you and bed you that same night? Does she gleefully let you engage in any kinky sex act you desire, like anal, without asking questions? Does she take off your condom in the middle of intercourse because she has a primal yearning to be inseminated by your Alpha semen?"

Yes. Yes. I don't know, I'm not an assuole who abuses people. Yes, but I make sure she's okay with it. (Cause I'm not an asshole) and lastly, yes.

And no I'm not a Chad, I'm just not sure socially awkward fuck who stereotypes women.

Fuck brutal black pill

The confirmation bias is real lol

Very.

One of the most annoying things about Gynocentrists is their sheer reluctance to deny that women, on average, have significantly more sexual capital than men do. The grand majority of men would never even get a date if they weren't the ones initiating all of the action, think about that for a moment.

Even contrary to the popular belief here, Chad still does have to do a lot of approaching on his own (though his success rate will be significantly higher than the average man) and putting himself on the line in all his engagements. Women, not even ugly women, have to do this at all, and even the lowest-value of them all will eventually find someone to ask them out -- in which they usually reject, because of their heightened requirements caused by unrestricted hypergamy.

Sometimes you guys are a little hard to understand. There are 13 year olds who have been incel for a long time and other guys just having difficulties finding a girlfriend. But you decided for yourself that every woman is a piece of shit that isn´t worth your time. That is a totally fine viewpoint to have, especially fine for the women you won´t talk to, but what makes you think that your celibacy is involuntary?

Wait 13? Does a child/teen/underaged person count as an incel?

How can you even have been an incel for " a long time" at 13?

There was a thread days ago about suggesting high schoolers who think they're incel to avoid this place.

I mean...you're not really an incel if the law kind of prohibits you from having sex, and you're not mature enough to have it.

What about average looking dudes who are single and just hook up with women w/o wanting a relationship?

I mean, I'm an average looking dude, not tall, don't go to the gym, but I've been pretty successful pre-tinder and with tinder. And I have friends who are also average looking, who admittedly put in more effort, and also have a lot of success. Recently I've even had to break things off on a number of occasions because they wanted a relationship and I preferred to keep things casual.

I'm not saying looks don't matter, because they do to an extent, but what I'm trying to get at here is the notion that every normal dude is just some betabux or whatever is pretty misguided. And I'll stress that I'm pretty fucking average looking, imo, and in none of those cases was there anything they would be getting out of sex in terms of money or status.

True. If you don't have my face or height it's literally over, unless you want to be a betacuck

It helps tremendously to not care.

You seem to care enough to join IT

I think, nay, i know this is false. How do you determine that most guys are “betabuxing”? I have never done that and i have had sex with 7s+. I offer nothing but good convo and great company. No money, no favors.

It's a coping mechanism. They're not comfortable feeling like they're at the lowest rung of society based off of their failure in life.

Its hard getting them to see they only their cause they kinda wanna be. Some of them atleast.

monthly transactional starfish fuck fucking lol

What is betabuxing and cucktears?

Alpha fucks/Beta Buxs.

Look it up.

CUCKtears is incel tears. The subreddit

So many things wrong with this post lol ive seen nonchads who arent rich slay thots and get girlfriends throughout all of college, esp in my frat.

Ive seen dudes constantly cheat on their gfs time and time again at parties. All non rich and non chads.

Because they are good looking

They werent 8+. Google any fraternity group photo. Majority of frats are just full of sub8s. Yall coping too hard

Majority of frat boys who arent chad or rich do get laid on a yearly basis. I think frats give you access and opportunity which is over half the battle. When youre exposed to hundreds of girls a night in a 2:1 female to male ratio, sometimes even 3:1, it certainty makes it easier.

Idk why you think she aint enjoying the sex. Why choose to have sex if you aint gon enjoy it? Thats the only delusional thing that’s said so far.

If all women want chads then all men want stacys. Im ok with your blackpill theory but i dont like the gender hypocrisy.

Ofcourse it's a bit extreme but there is a solid core of truth in your post. Thanks for sharing! The problem with people is that they believe they are not animals. No, they are some magical being that is much better than a monkey or a deer. Incels or strong believers of the incel philosophy (me) realize that we humans are just animals and our relational behaviours are just based on being that animal.

So you've changed the definition of incel from involuntary celibate( literally someone who cannot obtain sex no matter what he does), to any man who isn't intensely desired by women. Why move the goal posts? Just to further add to the misery? Or to artificially boost the number of "incels"?

I propose using a different word than celibacy then. That's the source of a lot of outsiders bothering you guys. Sex can be gotten easily. Validation is reserved for the beautiful, no one will argue that

I will save this post in my blog. This is the best post I ever see from Black Pill philosophy.

Do you think maybe YOU'RE coping? By extending your definition of Incel so that it includes other people? Making the assumption that most of the populace that claims to be in a loving relationship is actually deluding themselves seems far-fetched.

Misery loves company. These guys will bend over backwards to pretend the rest of us are all somehow as miserable as them.

“Doesn’t matter if you’re in a loving relationship! You’re all coping because every woman alive isn’t lining up for you hurr durr!”

This.

Disagree. Being an Incel is about being an looksmaxed man (man = adult) who tried his best with at least 45+ women below his height and lookslevel but failed to get sex out of any of them. That is what an Incel is. An Incel is an involuntary celibate. Most men aren't Incel. Only a tiny minority are.

I mean treating women like slot machines and hoping to get sex out of them might be part of your problem.

What’s wrong with tall women? They look great in heels.

Nothing. But women are attracted to height. They'd hate to be with a short man. More particularly men shorter than them.

Not really though. Depends on the woman.

Depends on the guy* And wither he has an attractive face or not.

Cope, I'm sub chadlite and my gfs smash everyday, and they usually pester me for more.

loooool, fuck is wrong with you?

This is in an insane post and shows such a disattached view of women that it's fucking disturbing. Get some therapy whoever you are.

Incel means involuntary celibate. If you are able to get laid you arent involuntarily celibate. Women just have more choice in the matter because men will sleep with anything.

I watched a video once, saying that humanity would be more successful if it was 10% male and 90% female, because then people would multiply faster and all men would get laid

Do you really think every woman on earth requires the man to provide for her if he’s not really hot? I can understand being frustrated and even depressed due to a lack of relationships, but I just can’t fathom thinking this poorly of half of the population.

Also, when you say emotionally support, are you referring to just actually being a good partner? Like, as a woman with an emotionally supportive fiancé, of course him being emotionally supportive is important? I’m just trying to understand here.

So even if I tell you I both desire my partner and consider him to be a very kind person, you won’t believe me because you have this rigid view of American women?

Also, my partner being supportive doesn’t mean he’s an emotional tampon. You’re deliberately changing the meaning of something to fit your world view.

So a chad is any man who has sex? Ok, that’s new to me, I must have misunderstood the vernacular at some point.

I am a woman telling you that I don’t like men who treat me like shit. But okay. I guess you can believe whatever you want about women even if it’s blatantly untrue.

I know it isn’t about me, dude. I was using personal experience, same as you. I hope life gets better for you in the future. Peace.

Take it easy man. You're just arguing with someone over the internet.

Or scenario C: you're an idiot.

Saying any sub8 male is an incel is COPE.

LOL

Most normies are effectively engaging in more socially acceptable forms of prostitution.

You really think most relationships work that way?

Then you clearly don't understand how human adult relationships work.

This is cope and hot bullshit tbh LMAOOOO.

JFL at other incels taking this serious.

I 100% agree with this. In other hand I think sex with a woman is not essential for men. There are a lot other way to enjoy the life without penalties. I'm MGTOW for that reason.

TIL: I'm far Chadlier than I though

Ohe of my best friends is a curry Chadeep (yes the brown unicorn does exist lol), and he literally barebacks every single one night stand he has. He finds ways to take the condom off or never use it to begin with, and by the time the girls realize they just want the dick too much to care.

Shit like this is why STDs are so prevalent :/

Okay lemme see... I'mma try and deconstruct this post real quick. OP is an incel, which means:

1) He's never had any form of sexual intercourse before. Therefore he believes good looking people are automatically and exclusively able to provide good sex. I assume this comes from the fact that visual arousal is the key component of masturbation. That's why he cannot comprehend how a chad can be a trainwreck in bed and a "roastie landwhale" could rock his little Incel ass six ways from sunday.

2) He believes women nowadays are dependent on their male partner financially or would deliberately enter such a dependency. I would say that comes from the OP being far removed from the current economic situation (perhaps because he's a teenager or being provided for by his parents) and therefore has no grasp of the sheer necessity for young couples to share the financial burden of a relationship. Needless to say, his complete lack of personal interactions with women also leaves him oblivious to the fact that financial independence is perhaps the quintessential goal for modern women in our "cucked feminist society"

3) He has some seriously bizarre thoughts on how women would act during what he calls "validational" sex with men they truly desire. This I believe can mostly be explained in porn being the only point of reference OP has for what sex looks like in reality. The amount of harm women are ready to inflict upon themselves in his thoughts also point to a latent sadism fetish.

4) He thinks attractive people don't need to provide anything to a healthy, stable relationship beyond their good looks. This is a staple believe of many incels and comes of course from never having been in a relationship themselves and only ever seeing the polished outside surface of couples in public, without any insight into the hard work and compromises both parts have to make during the daily routine.

5) The lack of understanding that good chemistry and emotional support are more desirable than goods looks in a serious relationship. That one goes hand in hand with the general inability to differentiate between lust and love that almost every incel shows. Pretty much like back in high school, when everyone is "in love" with the girl that gives him the hardest boner. So in other news, incels are emotionally and characterwise still in their puberty.

Did I miss anything?

Oh shit man you came hard on him lmao. This is the true blackpill; incels have a wrapped idea about sex because they've never gotten close to having it, but for some reason think they are experts on the way relationships work. As a woman I'd like to chime in and say that I do want fuck men, and have wanted to fuck quite ugly guys (by society's standards) without the promise of "material and emotional resources". It's biologically wired into women to want to have sex with guys, otherwise there's no way we would have reproduced for hundreds of thousands of years. More than that, women typically choose to have sex with average looking guys, not chads, because otherwise everyone would be a Chad.

Not sub 8 uniromically,more like sub 5-6 id say.

I think we forget around here that second to looks is power -- dr, lawyer, politician, actor, etc. You can be sub8 and get women wet if you have power.

But that is still very few men.

Explains the fuck out of my dealer. Dude legit looks like a pug.

I'm sub-8. I really don't get what you're talking about. I've never had this experience, and the only open sexual relationship I've ever been part of (FWB with a bi chick, she wanted pussy and I don't have one), largely worked out in my favour. Because threesomes.

This needs to be cleaned up and stickied.

You can't say shit if you're doing nothing to refute his claims. Are we just supposed to think what you're saying is valid because your covering your ears and screaming like a child?