He also seemingly aged 10 years, he went from the college goofball friend who plays dungeons and dragons to that 30 year old weirdo in IT who still hasn't settled down and had kids yet.
You should lose weight, because sometimes you have a very good face underneath all the fat. If you look worse then you can just regain the weight again.
Yeah he actually looks a lot happier and healthier from where I'm sitting. Maybe he's not the best looking guy in the world but he's done himself a serious fucking favour shifting that weight. Probably added ten years onto his life too. Good for him.
Congrats on losing the weight. If nothing else I hope you feel healthier. I think some wardrobe changes would also help, but I suppose thats a personal choice.
I definitely had sex multiple times with a guy that could be this dude's doppleganger, both before and after he lost weight. Dude had no problem finding a girlfriend, either.
Why would I say something stupid like that? You literally said you slept with him on your first comment which is also the one I replied to. How could he be too ugly to get laid, then? I would still consider him subhuman looks-wise because the average looking 4/10 wouldn't even sneeze in his direction.
Isn't the whole reason OP posted this because he's supposed to be an incel before and after? I'm sorry you're mad that your standards of attractiveness don't hold weight. All I'm saying is that if you're on here and you consider yourself incel you're probably not as unfuckable as you think you are, based on the fact that this guy is not unfuckable.
I think it was more comically ironic, almost a tragedy, that this man put in so much work to lose all that weight and still ended up conventionally unattractive. Personally, I wouldn't consider him a truecel because he lacks true deformities. He's just ugly af. But I am sure land whales/olgas like you would be willing to get with him.
I would literally settle for a downie at this point. I don't understand how it is so hard to believe that there are men at the bottom of the totem poll looks-wise. You do know 1/10s exist, right?
It's the same argument you guys have with people like me. I've never met a guy that I consider totally unfuckable and I think the /10 scale is subjective and simplistic. I also think that if you consider yourself 1/10 you're probably being too hard on yourself.
lol I literally have no standards. Be an adult and have a vagina. I've been around for 26 years and still HKV, I'm too objectively unattractive in every possible way to approach someone in person without them running away and online dating has never worked. There is no hope for me. Why do you people try to come here and argue against that? Do you think I have not tried literally everything before I resorted to coming onto the internet and crying about how unfair society is? I don't get it.
I come here for a few reasons: odd internet subcultures interest me, I've worked in IT and personally known many guys who might classify themselves incel that I can't engage with because it would be unprofessional, and I'm familiar with spiralling negative thoughts so I'd like to break the cycle with an outside objective opinion every now and then.
Gambler is a notable quasi-mentalcel who is decent looking and attracts women. He is a fakecel in the sense that he is good-looking and has gotten laid. Fakecels are just people LARPing as incels, shills from other subreddits, basically trolls and people who could get a girlfriend but don't for a number of reasons: social anxiety, low self-esteem, depression, their standards are too high, etc.
Oh ok, thanks. So what makes you a truecel in your opinion? Obviously you don't have to continue having this conversation it just seems like some of you don't mind engaging on it. That's why I leave one-off comments on posts here and there (I don't top-level) and keep talking if someone responds. But if it just makes you feel bad to talk to people outside of the community, I'll stop.
I'm 5'1, brown, with a skin disorder (vitiligo) amongst many other health conditions (I'm pre-mature). As for looks, my eyes are extremely wide apart and my right eye is extremely lazy. My skull shape is generally deformed because of my issues with development in the womb so I kind of look a cone-head. My hair is also really thin, always has been. My point is I struck the genetic lottery just like Chad. Except he got the good-looking lottery, and I got the literal sub-human lottery. Two ends of the spectrum yet we are the two most self-aware.
Oh jeez, that is hard to work with, if that's all true (not the brown thing cause who cares about that but the other stuff) I still maintain that the guy in the original picture is not a 2/10, though. What percentage of people out there do you think are like you?
Sorry, she has a little more... how shall we say it....class than that.
Black chicks have an STD rate of 50%. All you have to do to fuck one is wave a chicken bone in front of your dick. No one is impressed. White dudes aren’t really interested if you haven’t noticed.
"I notice attractiveness disparities all the time"
So this is a nice way of letting on that you judge people league wise, and tbh were it so "typical" to see, it wouldn'tbe something you're consciously keeping track of. The fact that the guy is that much less attractive in your estimation highlights the fact that you find it unusual, or a poor choice of partner on her part.
"But attractiveness is subjective"
Then what makes it possible for you to say "I see girls with ugly guys", because were it subjective, he wouldn't be ugly because attractiveness itself isn't a universally measurable concept. So the entire crux of your argument falls apart, since you're essentially buying into the idea of objective ugliness, so you can shift the goalpost to suit whatever it is you're trying to say.
kid looks like shit cuz he dresses like a dweeb and needs to get rid of the beard and glasses + get a line up to a super short length (not completely bald) and he wont look like complete shit
i don't like his aesthetic personally (glasses, hair, fashion) but I'm just one person, and that's going to vary a lot from person to person. But I also get that the shirt is casual wear, so it doesn't matter much as long as it all fits properly.
I would suggest to him to shave the head instead of doing the dad-cut, and different glasses because those - the top frame looks like an exaggerated eyebrow. Best feature is eyes, so if contact lenses are an option I'd suggest that.
If this guy is 20, the hair thing will be a bigger deal to women (his age) than if he's 30.
The beard is fine, they are in style now as long as they are groomed.
Shave your head, grow your beard, get contacts and get buff. I know I sound like every other normie but you're a decent looking guy. Just some small tweaks to your appearance can have you looking great. Plus, dat confidence boost.
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1 xxgtxy 2018-03-20
If your face is ugly you are fucked no matter what you do, this is a very good example. The fat buddha look suited his ugly face much more.
1 Cuckkiller95 2018-03-20
He also seemingly aged 10 years, he went from the college goofball friend who plays dungeons and dragons to that 30 year old weirdo in IT who still hasn't settled down and had kids yet.
1 Flint95 2018-03-20
95% would declare him ugly as fattie too
https://www.reddit.com/r/uglyduckling/comments/7v5tmw/lost_50kg_110lbs_in_18_months_after_a_rugby/
1 Gayfagcel 2018-03-20
Chad as fuck.
1 Hal_Inceldenza 2018-03-20
Well he's still invisible to most females but now I can imagine him with a below average gf.
1 MrTomDawson 2018-03-20
Might be my fellow fat-guy bias showing, but he looks fine on the left.
1 just_for_the_record 2018-03-20
he looks better
1 boredyeah 2018-03-20
lmao.
from funny to creepy.
1 Face-Hit-By-A-Lorry 2018-03-20
You should lose weight, because sometimes you have a very good face underneath all the fat. If you look worse then you can just regain the weight again.
1 DummysGuideTo2k 2018-03-20
It’s his hairline .
1 Face-Hit-By-A-Lorry 2018-03-20
Not talking about this guy in particular. Just for fat guys in general. It's impossible to know what you actually look like unless you lose weight.
1 marcin_koniecki 2018-03-20
he lost a lot of hair since left picture, balding is the biggest death sentence
1 IlliterateAndProud 2018-03-20
More than being overweight.
1 thixono 2018-03-20
but he would have had both, so better to be balding and NOT overweight, instead of both
1 AlphabetSmut 2018-03-20
Just shave it off, or accept it and cut it super super short!
1 marcin_koniecki 2018-03-20
and look like a cancer patient
1 AlphabetSmut 2018-03-20
...or just like a bald dude?
1 Casanova-Quinn 2018-03-20
Lol it's hardly a death sentence. Just shave your head and grow a beard. It's a good look as long as your beard is well groomed.
1 Wonky_Limp_Gimp 2018-03-20
Iron Maiden helps you lose weight
1 Kurtyboyy 2018-03-20
It’s ogre
1 random1234lol 2018-03-20
seeing the sub5 to sub5 transformations on /r/progresspics is brutal
1 CursedCel 2018-03-20
There's no ropefuel like realizing you'll still look like shit after reaching your "ideal weight"
1 D_Gandy 2018-03-20
Sub 4 on the right, looks like a massive pussy cuck
1 dontcomplain1 2018-03-20
"FATCELS ARE VOLCELS"
1 TheShadowedHunter 2018-03-20
If this is you, you do look better. Don't loose any more weight, but you don't look bad
1 frankwashere44 2018-03-20
1 justforlulzandkeks 2018-03-20
1 frankwashere44 2018-03-20
Imagine saying that to a girl and expecting her to take it as a compliment.
1 _moonlight__ 2018-03-20
I'm a girl and I take it as a compliment when a guy doesn't go out of this way to walk around me lol
1 homendailha 2018-03-20
Yeah he actually looks a lot happier and healthier from where I'm sitting. Maybe he's not the best looking guy in the world but he's done himself a serious fucking favour shifting that weight. Probably added ten years onto his life too. Good for him.
1 EmperorXeno 2018-03-20
Lose*
1 IncelSlayerZero 2018-03-20
Needs more muscle. Disregarding the intention of the thread, I bet he gets way more sex now than before, trust.
1 Board_Gaming 2018-03-20
What's wrong with how he looks?
1 IlliterateAndProud 2018-03-20
Women don't find him attractive.
1 probably_not_serious 2018-03-20
I’d date him.
1 IlliterateAndProud 2018-03-20
Is he your looks match?
1 probably_not_serious 2018-03-20
I’d say I’m at least a 9/10.
1 IlliterateAndProud 2018-03-20
Pics?
1 probably_not_serious 2018-03-20
I mean not to brag, but....
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1 just_for_the_record 2018-03-20
kek
1 boredyeah 2018-03-20
Username checks out
1 gstvtrp 2018-03-20
"I'd date him but I have a bf already"
1 ufo_abductee 2018-03-20
He does look 10x better
1 probably_not_serious 2018-03-20
Right? At least.
1 iQ9k 2018-03-20
He looks worse
1 Flint95 2018-03-20
so happüy that im a volcel like him
https://www.reddit.com/r/uglyduckling/comments/7v5tmw/lost_50kg_110lbs_in_18_months_after_a_rugby/
1 uKnowIsOver 2018-03-20
Yeah.....fatcel is volcel.......COPE
1 Marcellus97 2018-03-20
I think maybe if you actually smiled and switched to a decent outfit, you would clearly see how much you’ve improved visually.
1 jaghatarhonor 2018-03-20
Satire?
1 Marcellus97 2018-03-20
No? Looking clean and positive anyways improves people’s perception of you dramatically
1 jaghatarhonor 2018-03-20
Holy shit it wasn't satire
1 i-t-s-o-v-e-r 2018-03-20
Agreed, the autistic clothing and pose doesn't do him any favors.
1 iQ9k 2018-03-20
Lmfao dude
1 Marcellus97 2018-03-20
Lmao what??? You don’t think looking more presentable (something you have control over) increases attractiveness?
1 iQ9k 2018-03-20
From froggy egghead to froggy egghead with a button up shirt is 3/10 to 3.1/10
1 Dinosaur_Chef 2018-03-20
Congrats on losing the weight. If nothing else I hope you feel healthier. I think some wardrobe changes would also help, but I suppose thats a personal choice.
1 brazilianincel 2018-03-20
I look a little like him on the right, specially the huge forehead + receding hairling
1 HeckaWomp 2018-03-20
Guys this isn't him.
1 dumbkidaccount 2018-03-20
He stand no chance with that subhuman hairline.
1 EmperorXeno 2018-03-20
He can shave his head.
1 YuffieKisaragi 2018-03-20
Or there are girls like me that don't give a fuck about a receding hairline
1 EmperorXeno 2018-03-20
True. I personally think it's just time to let it go at a certain point.
1 TheEndIsComing29 2018-03-20
Lmao sure sure. I'm certain you swipe right on every guy who looks like (this)[https://imgur.com/a/DlaaU]
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1 YuffieKisaragi 2018-03-20
Broken link, but I don't swipe at all.
1 suicidal-pothead 2018-03-20
Looks better than me
1 iQ9k 2018-03-20
"hur hur what is a canaltiltcel bro? Girls dont even notice that kind of stuff you guys are gay lol"
-Inceltear retard
1 GotTigerBloodWinning 2018-03-20
You can't change genetics. You need chads genes in order to get a harem of women.
1 PM_ME_A_SECRET_PLS 2018-03-20
Is it op ? Because i know people with both of these body shape who are in a happy relationship.
1 BlatantNapping 2018-03-20
I definitely had sex multiple times with a guy that could be this dude's doppleganger, both before and after he lost weight. Dude had no problem finding a girlfriend, either.
1 DiscombobulatedLake 2018-03-20
The fact that you're willing to settle with this subhuman is a testament to how ugly you must be.
1 BlatantNapping 2018-03-20
Or maybe your whole mindset is skewed?
He got girls cause he carried himself well and was pretty kinky.
1 DiscombobulatedLake 2018-03-20
No, its because he's at least 2/10. If he was a 1/10 like us truecels you wouldn't have given him the time of day
1 BlatantNapping 2018-03-20
You're kind of moving the goalpost then, aren't you? Do you think this guy is too ugly to get laid or not?
1 DiscombobulatedLake 2018-03-20
Why would I say something stupid like that? You literally said you slept with him on your first comment which is also the one I replied to. How could he be too ugly to get laid, then? I would still consider him subhuman looks-wise because the average looking 4/10 wouldn't even sneeze in his direction.
1 BlatantNapping 2018-03-20
Isn't the whole reason OP posted this because he's supposed to be an incel before and after? I'm sorry you're mad that your standards of attractiveness don't hold weight. All I'm saying is that if you're on here and you consider yourself incel you're probably not as unfuckable as you think you are, based on the fact that this guy is not unfuckable.
1 DiscombobulatedLake 2018-03-20
I think it was more comically ironic, almost a tragedy, that this man put in so much work to lose all that weight and still ended up conventionally unattractive. Personally, I wouldn't consider him a truecel because he lacks true deformities. He's just ugly af. But I am sure land whales/olgas like you would be willing to get with him.
1 BlatantNapping 2018-03-20
So are you here because you can't get laid at all or because you think only fat girls will want to fuck you? (Idk what an Olga is)
1 DiscombobulatedLake 2018-03-20
I would literally settle for a downie at this point. I don't understand how it is so hard to believe that there are men at the bottom of the totem poll looks-wise. You do know 1/10s exist, right?
1 BlatantNapping 2018-03-20
It's the same argument you guys have with people like me. I've never met a guy that I consider totally unfuckable and I think the /10 scale is subjective and simplistic. I also think that if you consider yourself 1/10 you're probably being too hard on yourself.
1 DiscombobulatedLake 2018-03-20
lol I literally have no standards. Be an adult and have a vagina. I've been around for 26 years and still HKV, I'm too objectively unattractive in every possible way to approach someone in person without them running away and online dating has never worked. There is no hope for me. Why do you people try to come here and argue against that? Do you think I have not tried literally everything before I resorted to coming onto the internet and crying about how unfair society is? I don't get it.
1 BlatantNapping 2018-03-20
I come here for a few reasons: odd internet subcultures interest me, I've worked in IT and personally known many guys who might classify themselves incel that I can't engage with because it would be unprofessional, and I'm familiar with spiralling negative thoughts so I'd like to break the cycle with an outside objective opinion every now and then.
1 DiscombobulatedLake 2018-03-20
There are many fakecel Gambler types out there now.
1 BlatantNapping 2018-03-20
I don't understand what that means.
1 DiscombobulatedLake 2018-03-20
Gambler is a notable quasi-mentalcel who is decent looking and attracts women. He is a fakecel in the sense that he is good-looking and has gotten laid. Fakecels are just people LARPing as incels, shills from other subreddits, basically trolls and people who could get a girlfriend but don't for a number of reasons: social anxiety, low self-esteem, depression, their standards are too high, etc.
1 BlatantNapping 2018-03-20
Oh ok, thanks. So what makes you a truecel in your opinion? Obviously you don't have to continue having this conversation it just seems like some of you don't mind engaging on it. That's why I leave one-off comments on posts here and there (I don't top-level) and keep talking if someone responds. But if it just makes you feel bad to talk to people outside of the community, I'll stop.
1 DiscombobulatedLake 2018-03-20
I'm 5'1, brown, with a skin disorder (vitiligo) amongst many other health conditions (I'm pre-mature). As for looks, my eyes are extremely wide apart and my right eye is extremely lazy. My skull shape is generally deformed because of my issues with development in the womb so I kind of look a cone-head. My hair is also really thin, always has been. My point is I struck the genetic lottery just like Chad. Except he got the good-looking lottery, and I got the literal sub-human lottery. Two ends of the spectrum yet we are the two most self-aware.
1 BlatantNapping 2018-03-20
Oh jeez, that is hard to work with, if that's all true (not the brown thing cause who cares about that but the other stuff) I still maintain that the guy in the original picture is not a 2/10, though. What percentage of people out there do you think are like you?
1 opsecincels 2018-03-20
LOOOOOOL
1 BlatantNapping 2018-03-20
Wait am I stacy or am I ugly?
1 DiscombobulatedLake 2018-03-20
Likely hideous. Not sure what he is talking about, Stacy would rather rope than sleep with degrade herself enough to sleep with the man in this photo
1 TheEndIsComing29 2018-03-20
Cool, now do the same with me.
1 Incel_Executioner 2018-03-20
Post his face
1 road-rash3000 2018-03-20
From a lot of the women I've ever spoken to about it, confidence is a big factor.
1 nkaed_snake 2018-03-20
Well he does look better. And he's got an iron maiden shirt.
1 Dellarie 2018-03-20
1 Dusty715 2018-03-20
Hes got good taste in music, at least.
1 EmperorXeno 2018-03-20
Now just shave your head and lose the goofy t-shirt.
1 DummysGuideTo2k 2018-03-20
Right don’t forget to grow that full beard
1 comeondantheman 2018-03-20
Growing beards is for fat losers with no jaw lines. You don’t look manly bc you have a beard, you look like a slob.
1 DummysGuideTo2k 2018-03-20
I’d pull your bitch so fast . Please stop 🛑. Women love a nice taper into a full beard .
Obviously you aren’t going to be much help to the OP
1 comeondantheman 2018-03-20
Post a picture of your face than pussy if you’d “pull my bitch so fast”. Let’s see how confident you are now.
1 DummysGuideTo2k 2018-03-20
🇹🇩
My profile pic .
1 Anna_Hendrix 2018-03-20
Look at this fucc boi
1 DummysGuideTo2k 2018-03-20
Is that supposed to hurt my feelings ?
1 Anna_Hendrix 2018-03-20
Yeah it's a good game
1 comeondantheman 2018-03-20
Sorry, she has a little more... how shall we say it....class than that.
Black chicks have an STD rate of 50%. All you have to do to fuck one is wave a chicken bone in front of your dick. No one is impressed.
1 DummysGuideTo2k 2018-03-20
What?
1 comeondantheman 2018-03-20
Sorry, she has a little more... how shall we say it....class than that.
Black chicks have an STD rate of 50%. All you have to do to fuck one is wave a chicken bone in front of your dick. No one is impressed. White dudes aren’t really interested if you haven’t noticed.
1 DummysGuideTo2k 2018-03-20
Repeating your statement does nothing to fix your syntax or diction . What do Black chicks have to do with anything ?
1 comeondantheman 2018-03-20
You are black correct?
1 marcin_koniecki 2018-03-20
you look like a tranny with a beard of 16yo guy
those mantits lmao
1 DummysGuideTo2k 2018-03-20
I was 17 1/2 in this picture . Your a fucking pedo
1 PermanentRotter1 2018-03-20
I think he looked better fat tbh
1 _Aaronstotle 2018-03-20
Now he needs to lift and get a better hairstyle
1 harambeazn 2018-03-20
This. maybe a tan/skincare routine and a hair transplant too. his skin looked better in the left
1 Moist___ 2018-03-20
With that hairline? good fucking luck
1 NewestNightmare 2018-03-20
M2kcel
1 Redcherry42 2018-03-20
Iron Maiden, rock out :P
1 Cock_Demon 2018-03-20
He was better looking as a fat guy rip
1 yusername8291 2018-03-20
No! Contacts and a better beard can go the long way!
1 Cock_Demon 2018-03-20
Jfl if you think glasses can make a difference. He's gonna be weird looking with or without a beard too.
1 yusername8291 2018-03-20
Attractiveness is subjective
1 Cock_Demon 2018-03-20
To a degree, but there are fundamental rules ingrained in our genes. Also women have a far narrower perspective on attractiveness than men so riperino
1 yusername8291 2018-03-20
So are you an incel
1 Cock_Demon 2018-03-20
Nope
1 yusername8291 2018-03-20
I see pretty women with less attractive men all the time. And they don’t have money most of the time
1 Cock_Demon 2018-03-20
"Looks don't really mean much"
"I notice attractiveness disparities all the time"
So this is a nice way of letting on that you judge people league wise, and tbh were it so "typical" to see, it wouldn'tbe something you're consciously keeping track of. The fact that the guy is that much less attractive in your estimation highlights the fact that you find it unusual, or a poor choice of partner on her part.
"But attractiveness is subjective"
Then what makes it possible for you to say "I see girls with ugly guys", because were it subjective, he wouldn't be ugly because attractiveness itself isn't a universally measurable concept. So the entire crux of your argument falls apart, since you're essentially buying into the idea of objective ugliness, so you can shift the goalpost to suit whatever it is you're trying to say.
1 yusername8291 2018-03-20
You take this too seriously
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1 neomancr 2018-03-20
First of all no one ever said looks don't matter at all. The claim is that women have very divergent tastes which has always been known.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Braincels/comments/81kltc/ok_cupid_studies_proving_how_women_have_much_more
And also being fat or otherwise unhealthy is an indication of who you are.
1 CompleteLoser69 2018-03-20
kid looks like shit cuz he dresses like a dweeb and needs to get rid of the beard and glasses + get a line up to a super short length (not completely bald) and he wont look like complete shit
1 Gerard_the_Bunny 2018-03-20
You do look better! Now go out and catch a girl!!
1 vagoogle 2018-03-20
real talk - guy on the photo has a cute face.
i don't like his aesthetic personally (glasses, hair, fashion) but I'm just one person, and that's going to vary a lot from person to person. But I also get that the shirt is casual wear, so it doesn't matter much as long as it all fits properly.
I would suggest to him to shave the head instead of doing the dad-cut, and different glasses because those - the top frame looks like an exaggerated eyebrow. Best feature is eyes, so if contact lenses are an option I'd suggest that.
If this guy is 20, the hair thing will be a bigger deal to women (his age) than if he's 30.
The beard is fine, they are in style now as long as they are groomed.
He's a perfectly reasonable looking man.
1 DukeInterior 2018-03-20
I mean, you do. So... This meme doesn't really work.
1 justthatguy4 2018-03-20
I personally prefer the fat version of him.
1 throwaway19931989 2018-03-20
Shave your head, grow your beard, get contacts and get buff. I know I sound like every other normie but you're a decent looking guy. Just some small tweaks to your appearance can have you looking great. Plus, dat confidence boost.
1 ContextualAnalysis 2018-03-20
First, congratulations to the dude.
Now, get muscles, better hair/beard/clothing, and confident posture. The facial expression on the left is better