Are looks really everything, or are you just being shallow, singleminded people who thinks getting laid is the single most important thing in your lives?
Alright then. Work on improving yourself. Attitudes towards others, personal grooming, etc., all the usual stuff that makes people attractive. Then more women might be attracted to you.
Do you people actually think incels are a bunch of unwashed smelly borderlines? I'm polite. I shower twice a day. I dress my best every single day. I wear cologne. I style my hair and polish my shoes.
All the "personal grooming" in the fucking world doesn't change the fact that I'm an ugly 5'10" nigger, bucko. I've actually stopped trying because being rejected after doing everything I did to improve myself (threw out my old wardrobe, lost 40lbs, let my hair grow into curls instead of having a buzzcut, got treatment for my acne (that still won't go away), etc.) drove me so close to the rope I got sectioned in a psych ward.
Tell me about it. I do less than you, and I still don't have a girlfriend. Remember though, people may find you less attractive than other men for other reasons. Physical appearance is one of those reasons, but it may not be the definite one.
Sigh I'm not going to change your mind with whatever I say. But trust me. Looks aren't everything. I am a short (5'4" to 5'5") plain-looking 20-year-old Chinese kid. While I have never had a relationship, I am rather honest, kind, easygoing, and funny, despite being socially awkward. I therefore have friends from all ethnicities, with some of them being female, and one of my female friends expressing clear signs of interest in me. But no, I'm going to take it slow and give it some time before trying anything, because I am quite nervous about starting any sort of intimate relationship, being a bit insecure about my ethnicity and my height. Still, I can converse with most people without a problem. So, yeah, looks really aren't everything.
If looks aren’t everything then why are you still a virgin at 20? Is it because you have a shit personality? You were lied to your entire life and now you’re in denial. But go ahead and prove me wrong. Fuck this female friend of yours and prove us all wrong. You won’t though, because as soon as you make a move she’ll shut you down and tell you some bullshit like “you’re like a brother to me teehee”. And when that happens I want you to swallow that fucking black pill with a gallon of water.
Simple, I do not have an intense desire for sex. I prefer for it to happen naturally as part of a relationship. I've thought about having sex with her, but a prospective relationship comes first for me. Saying that she'll shut me down immediately is pessimistic thinking. I don't do that often. Oh, and I have a pretty good personality, thank you very much, I just don't put sex and having a relationship on a pedestal, so my life doesn't revolve around that.
It's hard to explain, and since I am socially awkward, I may just be a bit too hopeful that she seems to take interest. (I don't prioritise sex, and relationships are desired, but I'm not angry or depressed if I'm not in one.) Anyway, she just seemed really eager to go out for drinks, but she seems to like drinking anyway, so, again, it might just be me being hopeful.
She does, for both questions, as she is very shy, even more than I am. I'm the one who initiates conversations in the short time (a little more than 3 weeks) we've known each other.
I feel like this subreddit just needs an (honest) rate me thread because you all can't be as bad as you say you are. I worry because it seems like a lot of you may suffer from body dysmorphia.
If there were one would you feel comfortable posting to get honest reviews/ constructive criticism to improve?
That's fair, I just feel like some positive feedback could really help you guys. Feel free to private message me if you'd like an impartial opinion on anything.
How fucking retarded are you? The post in the pic is talking about seeing someone attractive and then feeling happy just because they existed within the OP's sight radius. We post pics of male models and state that they are Chads and we will never ever be anywhere close to the level of attraction that they have. We post nothing about feeling happy for seeing them.
Seriously. It's like you try to be retarded whenever you post.
yes it does. words have multiple meanings. men refer to women as bitches in the general sense. which is what the guy did. of course, you're a bitch in multiple ways so there was no reason to get upset just because you didn't agree with one of them.
you see women aren't taught about attraction. they honestly think when they see someone they're attracted to it's because of their personality. so when they see someone who isn't they're "type" (a story they've told themselves about why they were attracted to certain guys), they have to make it very clear and struggle to make it clear that this is not the typical feelings of personality and type attraction that most women experience. this is something else. something she doesn't understand.
Seriously? It's filled with radical feminazis, SJWs, ''feminists'', and man-hating ugly females. I'm pretty if a male-dominated subreddit had the same type of cotent as r/twoxchromosomes, it would've been accused of being incels. So in other words, r/twoxchromosomes is filled with females who would've been considered incels had they been males.
You're a woman. I already know what you're gonna do because there is observable evidence of AWALT. The second you find a Chad looking your way your bullshit spiel about "muh LTR" is gonna get left by the way side and after your done riding the cock carousel you'll find an obedient betabux to pick up your forgotten LTR.
Kindly stop trying to tell men a decade older than you why their collective experiences and knowledge is invalid, you proto roastie.
she can't even see that far ahead. cut her some slack. she'll hold out for the guys she likes. but it won't happen. so eventually she'll go for some douche. but she's 16. she's got a few years left to enjoy her emotions before the blackpill.
What's there to be self aware about? I never claimed looks don't matter, in fact if he actually lurked more he'd see I admit they do. But they're not everything. I haven't approached this guy not sent him any signals, he's nice to look at but that's all.
5'7 and below = manlet, so I guess face is more important than height for you but still it's the other way around for most foids. Do any other girls talk about him and check him out or is it just you?
5'7 and below = manlet, I just want to see their thoughts on a face vs height discussion. And do any other girls talk about him and check him out or is it just you?
If he was 6'3, he would've been the ONLY thing you guys talk about, especially if you describe him as "godly". Guaranteed you're the only one in the class who finds him sexually attractive, ask your friends what they think of him and they'll say something like "he's cute but he's short". That's how hard it is for manlets, even if you have a godly face, only a few girls out of a hundred find you attractive, well the average face manlets are left with nothing.
You identify as an incel, hang out on a sub with many other incels and likely have mostly male friends in real life and you're telling a women how they talk to one another/their though patterns as if you know better than an actual woman.
Women don't talk about men, especially not their specific features like how tall they are, nearly as often as you think. I don't even think most people could tell the different between 5'10/11 and 6" by looking at someone
Reminds me of this dude my wife and I saw in France.
My wife, who's pretty darn tall (a shade taller than me) pointed out this guy at a cafe and was just awestruck by his looks. He admittedly was ridiculously good looking, but I found it odd. He could not have been over 5'2", but she thought he was "gorgeous". I found this strange cause she definitely is heightist.
Being tall is certainly a plus, but I think most women would rate facial attraction higher.
friendly reminder to NEVER trust online strangers on their opinions, ESPECIALLY if it's one that could paint them in a bad light. talk is very, very cheap
I never said looks don't matter. I said looks aren't everything. I'm also not on IncelTears so don't try that either.
What's wrong with me admiring a Chad anyway? There are often posts on here about "tfw you will never wake up in bed with a model" or a "qt oneitis", what's the difference between that and me finding someone attractive?
Now imagine that exact feeling that guy gives people but reversed.
Imagine someone as unattractive as that guy is attractive.
Now Imagine people telling him it's not his looks, it's him that's the problem. Is it likely that he would feel like people try to invalidate his own life experience?
Right. I understand what you mean now. This is the clearest thing any incel has ever said to me honestly. That would explain all the paranoia over the halo effect etc. I'm so sorry that happened to you.
Thanks, it's that kind of understanding will help us all progress. Perhaps in 20 years we will be able to do more for ugly people in terms of addressing their problems with face and even genetics.(gene treatments come to mind)
We truly love at the cusp of a new age, if we don't fuck it up we can solve a lot of problems using tools that quite frankly no one had access too in the past.Those born incel today might perhaps be able to grow up to be average in looks without anyone able to tell. Just like how we surgically remove that split lip thing or remnant tail from babies.
I feel like no one has to suffer trough that, but as long as we don't recognize ugliness as the huge source of suffering it is we won't be motivated to help them.(also see: teeth,we now subsidize braces in lots of places and it has def helped people. In the future via CRISPR we might be able to heal embryos of genetic diseases and make sure everyone at-least gets a fair shot at life)
Not sure how I feel about absolute control, but extremely ugly features should probably be considered an impairment and removed before birth. It should be as cheap as possible and make it so that you are guaranteed to look average at the least.
Perhaps in the far future we will all look like models and everyone will be talented in basically anything. Although videogames will be so good by then people might not even be bothered doing real life stuff ;)
There's nothing wrong with admiring a Chad IF you aren't also telling incels "it's just your personality not your looks".
If you're going to shit on incels, be prepared for a higher level of scrutiny on hypocrisy. If you want to have your fantasies in peace, just like these guys do, don't shit on incels.
No. Personality matters and looks mean a lot but not everything. Can't I find people attractive without it somehow proving to you that looks are everything?
I wouldn't reject him. Most guys I'm into are not conventionally attractive. Besides I refuse to start a relationship unless I like someone's personality too.
U know what would help? Admitting that looks really matter. People here are tired of people pretending that's not true, so they avoid relationships all together
The halo effect is a form of cognitive bias in which the brain allows specific positive traits to positively influence the overall evaluation of the person, idea, or object in the halo.
The halo effect can also be explained as the behavior (usually unconscious) of using evaluations based on things unrelated, to make judgments about something or someone. The halo effect specifically refers to when this behavior has a positive correlation, such as viewing someone who is attractive is more likely to be seen as successful and more popular. When this judgement has a negative connotation, such as someone unattractive being charged more firmly for a crime than someone attractive, it is referred to as the horn effect.
What's wrong with finding someone attractive? Also I never said looks don't matter, just that they're not everything. It's not like I'd date the guy just because he's attractive.
Come on guys you're attacking a 16 year old girl on the internet for thinking someone is cute. Attraction is something that happens unconsciously. I'm sure none of you could say that you've never met someone you're attracted to on looks alone.
Go get yourselves a summer job at an orchard seeing as you're all so god damn good at cherry picking
Omg a woman found a man that's attractive attractive!?!?!??!? What a filthy slut. Give me a break most of you guys surely are attracted to attractive women?
Give me a break most of you guys surely are attracted to attractive women?
Sure, but we're not the ones saying that women's looks don't matter.
If you ask anyone here, sure they'd say "yeah I want a girl with a nice rack, who is always down to give blowjobs and who accepts me for who I am". And if such a woman presented herself to us we'd take her. Absolutely lecherous of course, but honest.
On the other hand, if we said the same thing but fawned over small breasted, asexual, demanding women then we'd be hypocrites.
Looks do matter but if you want to have a relationship personality is a big fucking deal, you don't want to be with an arrogant fuck boy that thinks he's hot shit.
I agree with you there, but fact is that "bad personality, good looks" produces infinitely better results than "good personality, bad looks". There are scores of men who are too weak and passive for their own good with stories of how women look past them.
You want to meet someone in a long relationship with the arrogant fuck boy who thinks he's hot shit? Walk into any battered women's shelter and ask who has been with their abuser the longest.
Lol you don't know how abusive relationships work, do some fucking research so you don't look like a fool. The rest of what you say is pretty accurate though.
Look, if you are admitting to getting all soaked over hot guys and then post on a sub of ugly guys about how there's hope once we turn 30, people are going to be annoyed.
Because girls like to sleep around in their prime, in college, then they often settle for someone who treats them right. But through college years, it's over if you're a guy without the looks and that's depressing
I wouldn't reject him. Most guys I'm into are not conventionally attractive. Besides I refuse to start a relationship unless I like someone's personality too.
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1 Board_Gaming 2018-03-19
Said the sub that frequently posts pictures of male models...
1 dirty_dan1824 2018-03-19
BERLIN.1969 ON IG
1 IWISHIWASCHAD 2018-03-19
Yeah we're consistent on our ideals and aren't hypocrites. Looks are everything.
1 veronchung 2018-03-19
Are looks really everything, or are you just being shallow, singleminded people who thinks getting laid is the single most important thing in your lives?
1 CursedCel 2018-03-19
I don't even want sex, I just want to stop being a lonely bastard. Yet because I'm not a 10/10 Chad women won't even look my way.
Not every Incel wants just sex.
1 veronchung 2018-03-19
Alright then. Work on improving yourself. Attitudes towards others, personal grooming, etc., all the usual stuff that makes people attractive. Then more women might be attracted to you.
1 CursedCel 2018-03-19
Do you people actually think incels are a bunch of unwashed smelly borderlines? I'm polite. I shower twice a day. I dress my best every single day. I wear cologne. I style my hair and polish my shoes.
All the "personal grooming" in the fucking world doesn't change the fact that I'm an ugly 5'10" nigger, bucko. I've actually stopped trying because being rejected after doing everything I did to improve myself (threw out my old wardrobe, lost 40lbs, let my hair grow into curls instead of having a buzzcut, got treatment for my acne (that still won't go away), etc.) drove me so close to the rope I got sectioned in a psych ward.
Looks are everything.
1 veronchung 2018-03-19
I'm 5'4", so... yeah, looks aren't everything. Don't shame yourself for your looks, you're not ugly.
1 CursedCel 2018-03-19
If looks weren't everything I would have landed at least one woman in my entire life.
1 veronchung 2018-03-19
Tell me about it. I do less than you, and I still don't have a girlfriend. Remember though, people may find you less attractive than other men for other reasons. Physical appearance is one of those reasons, but it may not be the definite one.
1 kysacademy 2018-03-19
Imagine believing this bullshit. This is what femoids and numales teach their children. If you are ugly, none of that shit will matter
1 veronchung 2018-03-19
Sigh I'm not going to change your mind with whatever I say. But trust me. Looks aren't everything. I am a short (5'4" to 5'5") plain-looking 20-year-old Chinese kid. While I have never had a relationship, I am rather honest, kind, easygoing, and funny, despite being socially awkward. I therefore have friends from all ethnicities, with some of them being female, and one of my female friends expressing clear signs of interest in me. But no, I'm going to take it slow and give it some time before trying anything, because I am quite nervous about starting any sort of intimate relationship, being a bit insecure about my ethnicity and my height. Still, I can converse with most people without a problem. So, yeah, looks really aren't everything.
1 kysacademy 2018-03-19
Thats definitely AF/BB relationship u got going on with your gf.
1 veronchung 2018-03-19
I don't have a girlfriend atm. What is AF/BB?
1 kysacademy 2018-03-19
Alpha fucks beta bucks
1 veronchung 2018-03-19
Well, if any future girlfriend mistreats me, I'm out. That's just logical. You don't want to be in an abusive relationship.
1 BurnAllSluts 2018-03-19
If looks aren’t everything then why are you still a virgin at 20? Is it because you have a shit personality? You were lied to your entire life and now you’re in denial. But go ahead and prove me wrong. Fuck this female friend of yours and prove us all wrong. You won’t though, because as soon as you make a move she’ll shut you down and tell you some bullshit like “you’re like a brother to me teehee”. And when that happens I want you to swallow that fucking black pill with a gallon of water.
1 veronchung 2018-03-19
Simple, I do not have an intense desire for sex. I prefer for it to happen naturally as part of a relationship. I've thought about having sex with her, but a prospective relationship comes first for me. Saying that she'll shut me down immediately is pessimistic thinking. I don't do that often. Oh, and I have a pretty good personality, thank you very much, I just don't put sex and having a relationship on a pedestal, so my life doesn't revolve around that.
1 mid-terms 2018-03-19
How does she express these clear signs of interest? Genuinely curious.
1 veronchung 2018-03-19
It's hard to explain, and since I am socially awkward, I may just be a bit too hopeful that she seems to take interest. (I don't prioritise sex, and relationships are desired, but I'm not angry or depressed if I'm not in one.) Anyway, she just seemed really eager to go out for drinks, but she seems to like drinking anyway, so, again, it might just be me being hopeful.
1 mid-terms 2018-03-19
Does she touch you a lot? Also, does she initiate conversations/situations with you outside of your direct influence?
1 veronchung 2018-03-19
She does, for both questions, as she is very shy, even more than I am. I'm the one who initiates conversations in the short time (a little more than 3 weeks) we've known each other.
1 mid-terms 2018-03-19
Her touching you is a good sign. Girls rarely touch people they don't like.
1 veronchung 2018-03-19
I actually meant she doesn't do either of those things.
1 agirlhas_no_name 2018-03-19
I feel like this subreddit just needs an (honest) rate me thread because you all can't be as bad as you say you are. I worry because it seems like a lot of you may suffer from body dysmorphia.
If there were one would you feel comfortable posting to get honest reviews/ constructive criticism to improve?
1 CursedCel 2018-03-19
And risk it getting out and have all the incel hate communities crawling up our ass? No thanks.
1 agirlhas_no_name 2018-03-19
That's fair, I just feel like some positive feedback could really help you guys. Feel free to private message me if you'd like an impartial opinion on anything.
1 justforlulzandkeks 2018-03-19
It's not BDD, you just can't even imagine ugly people as an attractive female
1 taftbrodda 2018-03-19
Most of us don't look like Shawn Mendes or whatever Hollywood nerd you're picturing. We look like this or this or this.
1 NeedinStitches 2018-03-19
There's nothing inconsistent with what I've said.
I find someone very attractive and pleasant to look at which makes me happy.
I have no intentions of dating him or anything of the sort because I do not know him.
1 birtopia 2018-03-19
You are an utter, brain dead fucking moron, and that’s coming from me.
1 PROLAPSED_SUBWOOFER 2018-03-19
lmao
1 CptErection23 2018-03-19
Oh look another great post by our beloved mod
1 anonymousvirgin88 2018-03-19
How fucking retarded are you? The post in the pic is talking about seeing someone attractive and then feeling happy just because they existed within the OP's sight radius. We post pics of male models and state that they are Chads and we will never ever be anywhere close to the level of attraction that they have. We post nothing about feeling happy for seeing them.
Seriously. It's like you try to be retarded whenever you post.
1 Incel_Executioner 2018-03-19
Shut the fuck up
1 Board_Gaming 2018-03-19
No.
1 Nobodykers 2018-03-19
Why are you on their side. They already have thousands of normies and women. Cant you be the single bitch on our side?
1 Board_Gaming 2018-03-19
I'm not a bitch.
1 just_for_the_record 2018-03-19
pretty sure you're a bitch.
you've got a vagina
you don't respect men
you lack courage
so when you think about it, you're a bitch in 3 different ways
1 Board_Gaming 2018-03-19
Just having a vagina doesn't make someone a bitch. And I respect men that deserve respect.
1 just_for_the_record 2018-03-19
yes it does. words have multiple meanings. men refer to women as bitches in the general sense. which is what the guy did. of course, you're a bitch in multiple ways so there was no reason to get upset just because you didn't agree with one of them.
1 Board_Gaming 2018-03-19
Except that I'm not.
1 Nobodykers 2018-03-19
Unless chad spanks you in bed
1 Board_Gaming 2018-03-19
I don't know any Chads.
1 PROLAPSED_SUBWOOFER 2018-03-19
Explains why you're still single then.
1 Board_Gaming 2018-03-19
I'm not looking for Chads.
1 Nobodykers 2018-03-19
Your body is.
1 prophetpepe 2018-03-19
go fuck yourself
1 justforlulzandkeks 2018-03-19
you're actually so dumb jesus
1 satendrakumar_tm15 2018-03-19
Bimbo buffalo.
1 WhyNotLayDownAndRot 2018-03-19
she has to just be trolling at this point
1 LiveMemeOrDie 2018-03-19
Incels realize that looks > everything so posting that isn’t hypocritical like I is for IT posters. What’s your point?
1 NeedinStitches 2018-03-19
Yeah and I don't get what the big deal is if someone finds a guy attractive?
1 KV-n 2018-03-19
Nothing... until they say "looks dont matter" in the same breath
1 NeedinStitches 2018-03-19
Except I never said that. He just took one of my posts and lied about who I am and what I said.
1 gufestus2 2018-03-19
I agree but you miss the point. It's hypocritical to tell everyone looks don't matter and then fawn over someone's looks.
1 NeedinStitches 2018-03-19
I never said looks don't matter. The ome thing that really pisses me off about this post is that he lies and says I'm on IT and that I said that.
Looks are important but they aren't everything.
1 notaciaemployee 2018-03-19
Hahaha they are so hypocritical smh
1 NeedinStitches 2018-03-19
It's not hypocritical because I never said looks don't matter.
1 incelwriter 2018-03-19
ah, that's something that'll never happen to us, ever
1 IWISHIWASCHAD 2018-03-19
"halo effect isn't real, work on your personality"
1 uezo 2018-03-19
Shh its alright bro. At least we have each other.
1 incelwriter 2018-03-19
yep, until the normies come and drive us all to sui
1 CursedCel 2018-03-19
We should make a community for Incels somewhere in the mountains where normies can't fucking bother us.
1 Yemanthing 2018-03-19
Turns out Mendel built advanced sex robots for all the incels after discovering why he was such a pussy from his experiments with genetics.
1 literalytrash 2018-03-19
Oh wow! How DARE they find someone attractive!
1 opsecincels 2018-03-19
https://i.redd.it/002fh5qt8pj01.jpg
Your fingers look like sausages hahahahahaha
1 Involuntarily 2018-03-19
Look at how the pig sleeps
1 opsecincels 2018-03-19
JFL. She doesn't even have bed sheets LMAO.
And normies thought WE live in pigstys.
1 Involuntarily 2018-03-19
And it's normal for her too.
1 opsecincels 2018-03-19
I'm actually disgusted.
This is our opposition. JFL, FAILED NORMIES IN DENIAL.
1 Involuntarily 2018-03-19
Lol look at her cry
1 alfons100 2018-03-19
Yeah like, it’s as if- people are ATTRACTED to different people? Unbelievable!
1 justforlulzandkeks 2018-03-19
wow it's ALMOST AS IF XDDD /s/s/s
1 opsecincels 2018-03-19
This thread is such a smug microtransaction for incels it makes me laugh
1 NeedinStitches 2018-03-19
How is it a victory?
I never said looks don't matter and nothing is happening between me and that guy. I haven't approached him at all he's just a random hot guy.
The closest thing to a victory on this thread is that actual incel comments are getting upvoted for a change.
1 opsecincels 2018-03-19
Cuz the landwhale alcoholic Stacy got exposed and couldn't reply.
1 just_for_the_record 2018-03-19
how dare they claim to not find people attractive
1 asdlkjpoiqwer0981234 2018-03-19
That wasn't the point at all you dense fuckhead
1 NeedinStitches 2018-03-19
I know right? I mean they can compare how people look all day but I can't admire one guy?
1 DowntownWrongdoer 2018-03-19
lmao
1 Mest666 2018-03-19
"It's not a crush, not a crush" what a stupid bitch
1 just_for_the_record 2018-03-19
i think she wants us to know that this is purely physical
1 NeedinStitches 2018-03-19
It is purely physical. Which is why I haven't approached him and don't intend to.
1 just_for_the_record 2018-03-19
called it lol
you see women aren't taught about attraction. they honestly think when they see someone they're attracted to it's because of their personality. so when they see someone who isn't they're "type" (a story they've told themselves about why they were attracted to certain guys), they have to make it very clear and struggle to make it clear that this is not the typical feelings of personality and type attraction that most women experience. this is something else. something she doesn't understand.
1 NeedinStitches 2018-03-19
I have never once just seen someone and thought I liked their personality. I state that this is not a crush because I only find him attractive.
I never approach guys to start relationships unless I've known him for at least a year because that's how I'd know I like him and not just his face.
Frankly I don't see anything wrong with admiring someone for being attractive if I have no intentions of dating then for their looks.
1 just_for_the_record 2018-03-19
You're still discovering who you are. It's adorable.
1 NeedinStitches 2018-03-19
What do you mean?
1 justthatguy4 2018-03-19
Have sex with that guy, I really doubt you even comprehend of how good it will be.
1 NeedinStitches 2018-03-19
I don't want to have sex with that guy. When I have sex it will only ever be in a LTR.
1 CursedCel 2018-03-19
"At least until Chad comes around in college teehee"
That's what you mean by LTR. Now fuck off. Literal teenager tryna invalidate my whole damn life.
1 NeedinStitches 2018-03-19
No. You're a guy in his mid 20s roughly trying to tell me who I am and what I'll do.
What I do with my life doesnt invalidate yours unless you built it on the idea women are a hive mind.
1 LoverMonkey 2018-03-19
I love how you act you're moral and shit but you sub to r/TrollXChromosomes
1 NeedinStitches 2018-03-19
What's wrong with that?
1 LoverMonkey 2018-03-19
Seriously? It's filled with radical feminazis, SJWs, ''feminists'', and man-hating ugly females. I'm pretty if a male-dominated subreddit had the same type of cotent as r/twoxchromosomes, it would've been accused of being incels. So in other words, r/twoxchromosomes is filled with females who would've been considered incels had they been males.
1 CursedCel 2018-03-19
Typical roastie. I feel bad for the poor betabux she's gonna catch once she hits the wall.
1 CursedCel 2018-03-19
You're a woman. I already know what you're gonna do because there is observable evidence of AWALT. The second you find a Chad looking your way your bullshit spiel about "muh LTR" is gonna get left by the way side and after your done riding the cock carousel you'll find an obedient betabux to pick up your forgotten LTR.
Kindly stop trying to tell men a decade older than you why their collective experiences and knowledge is invalid, you proto roastie.
1 NeedinStitches 2018-03-19
I won't stop because you're spouting bullshit.
1 just_for_the_record 2018-03-19
she can't even see that far ahead. cut her some slack. she'll hold out for the guys she likes. but it won't happen. so eventually she'll go for some douche. but she's 16. she's got a few years left to enjoy her emotions before the blackpill.
1 IWISHIWASCHAD 2018-03-19
She is 16 supposedly, trying to lecture 24+ year old incels on how attraction works jfl
1 NeedinStitches 2018-03-19
What so I can't experience attraction at 16?
1 IWISHIWASCHAD 2018-03-19
Of course you can, but you can't seem to reconcile the fact that attraction = looks, despite you literally typing it out in a post admitting it.
1 NeedinStitches 2018-03-19
Initial Attraction = Looks. Attraction can be killed by someone being a douche so looks don't make everything.
1 Yemanthing 2018-03-19
No initial attraction = you lose.
1 35yoGeneticTrash 2018-03-19
JFC this explains so much.
1 Lolidom 2018-03-19
Are you serious, a literal child?
1 NeedinStitches 2018-03-19
Would you like to tell me why I'm a stupid bitch for saying I'm not crushing on someone just because I find them attractive?
1 Mest666 2018-03-19
Sorry, I didn't know you would find this topic. Isn't a crush just physical attraction? Example: "Oh this nigga from this music video is my new crush"
1 NeedinStitches 2018-03-19
I don't acknowledge something as a crush without an emotional bond as well.
1 Mest666 2018-03-19
kek
1 NeedinStitches 2018-03-19
What?
1 AreYouDeaf 2018-03-19
KEK
1 Mest666 2018-03-19
"kek"
1 FEDORA_GOD 2018-03-19
i hate being ugly so much i wish i was fucking dead
1 TacticalNannerz 2018-03-19
do you really?
1 FEDORA_GOD 2018-03-19
do you not?
1 TacticalNannerz 2018-03-19
fair
1 Mr-Mercedes- 2018-03-19
Imagine how much it sucks to be a perfectionist and have a face that makes me look like I was a Chernobyl baby
1 alienfanboy 2018-03-19
the lack of self-awareness
1 NeedinStitches 2018-03-19
What's there to be self aware about? I never claimed looks don't matter, in fact if he actually lurked more he'd see I admit they do. But they're not everything. I haven't approached this guy not sent him any signals, he's nice to look at but that's all.
1 lambcel 2018-03-19
How tall is he?
1 NeedinStitches 2018-03-19
About 5'6-5'8 he's a bit taller than me (5'4)
1 lambcel 2018-03-19
LYING CUNT!
1 NeedinStitches 2018-03-19
Calm down. I'm not lying.
1 lambcel 2018-03-19
You should post the same thing on /r/short, but add his height.
1 NeedinStitches 2018-03-19
Sure, any particular reason? I didn't think that height range was short enough to be on that sub.
1 lambcel 2018-03-19
5'7 and below = manlet, so I guess face is more important than height for you but still it's the other way around for most foids. Do any other girls talk about him and check him out or is it just you?
1 lambcel 2018-03-19
5'7 and below = manlet, I just want to see their thoughts on a face vs height discussion. And do any other girls talk about him and check him out or is it just you?
1 NeedinStitches 2018-03-19
I haven't mentioned him to the others. We don't really talk about guys much at all.
1 lambcel 2018-03-19
If he was 6'3, he would've been the ONLY thing you guys talk about, especially if you describe him as "godly". Guaranteed you're the only one in the class who finds him sexually attractive, ask your friends what they think of him and they'll say something like "he's cute but he's short". That's how hard it is for manlets, even if you have a godly face, only a few girls out of a hundred find you attractive, well the average face manlets are left with nothing.
1 NeedinStitches 2018-03-19
We have tall hot guys and short hot guys. But we don't talk about guys because we have other things to focus on.
1 princesscelia 2018-03-19
You identify as an incel, hang out on a sub with many other incels and likely have mostly male friends in real life and you're telling a women how they talk to one another/their though patterns as if you know better than an actual woman.
Women don't talk about men, especially not their specific features like how tall they are, nearly as often as you think. I don't even think most people could tell the different between 5'10/11 and 6" by looking at someone
1 Enferlain 2018-03-19
I doubt most people give a shit.
1 just_for_the_record 2018-03-19
cope. heightism is always cope. face > *
1 willengineer4beer 2018-03-19
Reminds me of this dude my wife and I saw in France. My wife, who's pretty darn tall (a shade taller than me) pointed out this guy at a cafe and was just awestruck by his looks. He admittedly was ridiculously good looking, but I found it odd. He could not have been over 5'2", but she thought he was "gorgeous". I found this strange cause she definitely is heightist.
Being tall is certainly a plus, but I think most women would rate facial attraction higher.
1 NeedinStitches 2018-03-19
Face over height anyday.
1 just_for_the_record 2018-03-19
just link this shit every time they post here
1 NeedinStitches 2018-03-19
Wouldn't make a point really because he makes false claims in the title.
1 justforlulzandkeks 2018-03-19
lmao
friendly reminder to NEVER trust online strangers on their opinions, ESPECIALLY if it's one that could paint them in a bad light. talk is very, very cheap
1 NeedinStitches 2018-03-19
I never said looks don't matter. I said looks aren't everything. I'm also not on IncelTears so don't try that either.
What's wrong with me admiring a Chad anyway? There are often posts on here about "tfw you will never wake up in bed with a model" or a "qt oneitis", what's the difference between that and me finding someone attractive?
1 justthatguy4 2018-03-19
Now imagine that exact feeling that guy gives people but reversed.
Imagine someone as unattractive as that guy is attractive.
Now Imagine people telling him it's not his looks, it's him that's the problem. Is it likely that he would feel like people try to invalidate his own life experience?
1 NeedinStitches 2018-03-19
Right. I understand what you mean now. This is the clearest thing any incel has ever said to me honestly. That would explain all the paranoia over the halo effect etc. I'm so sorry that happened to you.
1 TsarHarkinian 2018-03-19
It's the reality for allot of people and not just limited to Face
1 justthatguy4 2018-03-19
Thanks, it's that kind of understanding will help us all progress. Perhaps in 20 years we will be able to do more for ugly people in terms of addressing their problems with face and even genetics.(gene treatments come to mind)
We truly love at the cusp of a new age, if we don't fuck it up we can solve a lot of problems using tools that quite frankly no one had access too in the past.Those born incel today might perhaps be able to grow up to be average in looks without anyone able to tell. Just like how we surgically remove that split lip thing or remnant tail from babies.
I feel like no one has to suffer trough that, but as long as we don't recognize ugliness as the huge source of suffering it is we won't be motivated to help them.(also see: teeth,we now subsidize braces in lots of places and it has def helped people. In the future via CRISPR we might be able to heal embryos of genetic diseases and make sure everyone at-least gets a fair shot at life)
1 NeedinStitches 2018-03-19
Well I mean there is already work being done to let people choose how their kids look. So maybe in time incels just won't be born at all.
1 justthatguy4 2018-03-19
Not sure how I feel about absolute control, but extremely ugly features should probably be considered an impairment and removed before birth. It should be as cheap as possible and make it so that you are guaranteed to look average at the least.
Perhaps in the far future we will all look like models and everyone will be talented in basically anything. Although videogames will be so good by then people might not even be bothered doing real life stuff ;)
1 bs310 2018-03-19
At that point it would be personality alone stopping people from getting dates.
1 PhucCheet 2018-03-19
There's nothing wrong with admiring a Chad IF you aren't also telling incels "it's just your personality not your looks".
If you're going to shit on incels, be prepared for a higher level of scrutiny on hypocrisy. If you want to have your fantasies in peace, just like these guys do, don't shit on incels.
1 behindcloseddoors1 2018-03-19
Lol you dumb bitch. I can't wait until Chad dumps you with a child and you have to live in poverty.
1 NeedinStitches 2018-03-19
Wow how sweet. Finding someone attractive males hou believe I deserve to live in poverty?
1 sailorgangordie 2018-03-19
So you admit personality is a meme and looks are everything?
1 NeedinStitches 2018-03-19
No. Personality matters and looks mean a lot but not everything. Can't I find people attractive without it somehow proving to you that looks are everything?
1 sailorgangordie 2018-03-19
If the guy was average looking and had a great personality you'd prob reject him. That's the core tenant of the Blackpill, looks are everything.
1 NeedinStitches 2018-03-19
I wouldn't reject him. Most guys I'm into are not conventionally attractive. Besides I refuse to start a relationship unless I like someone's personality too.
1 AutismoCircus 2018-03-19
About as believable as the presence of WMDs in Iraq.
1 NeedinStitches 2018-03-19
I already know you won't believe anything I say no matter how truthful it is. But I will keep telling the truth regardless.
1 Enferlain 2018-03-19
That sounds like something even you don't believe.
1 whackcel 2018-03-19
He idealize women who are hot, but we have low standards. U don't fit in here
1 NeedinStitches 2018-03-19
Yeah I know I don't. But you should know that insulting and lying about me won't make me go.
1 whackcel 2018-03-19
U know what would help? Admitting that looks really matter. People here are tired of people pretending that's not true, so they avoid relationships all together
1 NeedinStitches 2018-03-19
I literally started my comment with looks matter. But that doesn't mean they're everything. If they were I'd have asked the guy out.
1 whackcel 2018-03-19
Fair enough. But this too. Everyone does it without even noticing
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_effect
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Halo effect
The halo effect is a form of cognitive bias in which the brain allows specific positive traits to positively influence the overall evaluation of the person, idea, or object in the halo.
The halo effect can also be explained as the behavior (usually unconscious) of using evaluations based on things unrelated, to make judgments about something or someone. The halo effect specifically refers to when this behavior has a positive correlation, such as viewing someone who is attractive is more likely to be seen as successful and more popular. When this judgement has a negative connotation, such as someone unattractive being charged more firmly for a crime than someone attractive, it is referred to as the horn effect.
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1 whackcel 2018-03-19
Thanks, bots lol
1 boredyeah 2018-03-19
Female brain = self destruct
1 NeedinStitches 2018-03-19
What's wrong with finding someone attractive? Also I never said looks don't matter, just that they're not everything. It's not like I'd date the guy just because he's attractive.
1 agirlhas_no_name 2018-03-19
Come on guys you're attacking a 16 year old girl on the internet for thinking someone is cute. Attraction is something that happens unconsciously. I'm sure none of you could say that you've never met someone you're attracted to on looks alone.
Go get yourselves a summer job at an orchard seeing as you're all so god damn good at cherry picking
1 Astro501 2018-03-19
oh noooo poor girl.
1 muc-mhara 2018-03-19
Omg a woman found a man that's attractive attractive!?!?!??!? What a filthy slut. Give me a break most of you guys surely are attracted to attractive women?
1 SignorSolitudine 2018-03-19
Sure, but we're not the ones saying that women's looks don't matter.
If you ask anyone here, sure they'd say "yeah I want a girl with a nice rack, who is always down to give blowjobs and who accepts me for who I am". And if such a woman presented herself to us we'd take her. Absolutely lecherous of course, but honest.
On the other hand, if we said the same thing but fawned over small breasted, asexual, demanding women then we'd be hypocrites.
1 muc-mhara 2018-03-19
Looks do matter but if you want to have a relationship personality is a big fucking deal, you don't want to be with an arrogant fuck boy that thinks he's hot shit.
1 SignorSolitudine 2018-03-19
I agree with you there, but fact is that "bad personality, good looks" produces infinitely better results than "good personality, bad looks". There are scores of men who are too weak and passive for their own good with stories of how women look past them.
You want to meet someone in a long relationship with the arrogant fuck boy who thinks he's hot shit? Walk into any battered women's shelter and ask who has been with their abuser the longest.
1 muc-mhara 2018-03-19
Lol you don't know how abusive relationships work, do some fucking research so you don't look like a fool. The rest of what you say is pretty accurate though.
1 NeedinStitches 2018-03-19
I never said looks don't matter. That guy was lurking for one day when he decided to go through my posts and build a strawman.
Looks matter but they aren't everything. Also it's not hypocritical for me to find someone attractive.
1 silvyrphoenix 2018-03-19
wow. you're going out of your way to be offended here.
1 NeedinStitches 2018-03-19
Yeah and also he put two lies about me in the title to somehow make his outrage seem valid.
1 Probably_NotThe_NSA 2018-03-19
lmao, are you actually fat?
1 NeedinStitches 2018-03-19
No, what does that have to do with anything anyway?
1 Probably_NotThe_NSA 2018-03-19
you are a sickening individual
1 NeedinStitches 2018-03-19
How?
1 whackcel 2018-03-19
Look, if you are admitting to getting all soaked over hot guys and then post on a sub of ugly guys about how there's hope once we turn 30, people are going to be annoyed.
1 NeedinStitches 2018-03-19
There are single women over 30 so why not?
1 whackcel 2018-03-19
Because girls like to sleep around in their prime, in college, then they often settle for someone who treats them right. But through college years, it's over if you're a guy without the looks and that's depressing
1 NeedinStitches 2018-03-19
You have a lower chance of getting someone in college yeah but your chances in college aren't over til college itself is over.
1 whackcel 2018-03-19
2 more months lol
1 just_for_the_record 2018-03-19
i think she wants us to know that this is purely physical
1 NeedinStitches 2018-03-19
Would you like to tell me why I'm a stupid bitch for saying I'm not crushing on someone just because I find them attractive?
1 NeedinStitches 2018-03-19
I wouldn't reject him. Most guys I'm into are not conventionally attractive. Besides I refuse to start a relationship unless I like someone's personality too.
1 Nobodykers 2018-03-19
Your body is.
1 Enferlain 2018-03-19
That sounds like something even you don't believe.
1 NeedinStitches 2018-03-19
Yeah I know I don't. But you should know that insulting and lying about me won't make me go.