If you tell a girl she should lower her standards, she'll take it as the biggest insult ever. If you tell a guy he should lower his standards, it's fine because you're "just being realistic, bro".
It makes no sense to tell someone who can get partners to lower their standards. It makes sens to tell someone who can't get partners to lower their standards. By definition, incels can't get partner, so lowering your standards is the sensible advice.
How low do my standards have to go? She's a 1/10 and still got an 9/10 man. There is literally nothing lower than her, she is rock bottom and she's still out of reach for an average looking male.
People end up pairing 1 for 1 so your time will come. Even in the worse case scenario you can eventually get the 1/10 women when all the 2-10 men are coupled up. Beside, I'm sorry, but I doubt you've scourged the Earth looking for every woman and checking if she wanted to date you.
There is literally nothing lower than her, she is rock bottom and she's still out of reach for an average looking male.
That statement right there is utter bullshit. Just because you can't get women doesn't mean the average man can't get women. The average man easily dates women 2 points above himself and it's utterly complete bullshit to say the average man can't get a 1/10 to date him. Even you know that. Just open your fucking eyes and notice that all the average men around you have girlfriends and that none of them are dating 1/10 women.
Your case is special. You are an incel. You can't get 1/10 women to date you. Average normie men easily get 7s.
The problem is people DONT end up pairing 1:1, that's a just world fallacy for you. In reality there are 107 men for every 100 women, causing a HUGE disparity in the population. In the US alone there are an extra 2 million males in the 14-28 age range. These extra males will NEVER have a partner no matter how hard they try if everyone was paired off with someone else. But, since not everyone is paired off together it gets even worse, due to women's hypergamy along with the excess number of males, the amount of single men is astronomically higher.
I don't know where you live in but I'm in San Fransisco and I literally see Chads with ugly and fat girls daily. However I've never seen an ugly or fat normie male with an attractive woman.
Hypergamy is real, deny it all you want but it's reality. Women don't date down because they have hundreds if not thousands of options. They can just hop on Tinder and pick a chad fuck from their 1000 matches.
Women are taught from a young age by feminist society that they deserve a prince charming. That they deserve a perfect man for merely existing. That they should never settle for less, even if they're useless, roastie landwhales whose only accomplishment in life is a gender studies degree.
Men are taught the opposite. They are told by feminists that they are not "entitled to anything", and despite any amount of hard work or accomplishment, they should be expected to settle for a low-SMV single mother roastie to raise Chad's kids, and if they're sub2 incels, they shouldn't expect to settle with anything ("you can live without sex hurr durr").
You're an idiot. How many WWII historians actually fought in the war? How many NASA scientists have actually been in space?
Look at the theme of every TV show/movie/book/magazine/etc geared towards young girls. Look at every single piece of folklore and its Disney adaptations. Look at all the "female empowerment" movements IRL and online. Look at all the support women give to other women on social media.
hahaha space and war are SO much different than interacting with women. also, "NASA scientists" are more like physicists, and physics have a LAW behind them, thus you can predict something out of mathematical calculations. history is something that already happened, there is no changing it. women kn the other hand... they are all different and its much easier interacting with them than going to space or studying a helluva lot history. LOL.
nope. you can learn history/physics by studying. you cannot understand a woman (let alone ALL women) by watching sitcoms and hanging out at reddit with other guys who are scared of and/or hate women. it's not hard. you're smarter than this. don't play dumb.
i did read it, but it lacks coherence, the paragraphs don't even reference one another. first paragraph talks about wwII and nasa scientists and the seconds tells me to look at feminism, support women get and so on... whats should i acknowledge? there ARE groups that support women. that is wonderful. i personally dislike feminists, that's why i avoid them. u jealous of "how much easier women have it"? shit, they get paid less and many have to deal with sexist shit. now they also have u to worry about.
Yeah... life without sex has caused me to be reported to the police twice and I feel like I'm constantly under risk of being arrested because I've been treated like shit all my life and I can't complain to anyone.
If I had only lived in Miami for the last year of my life, I would assume there is a law requiring young men to mog their girlfriend by no less than one point.
I forgot who said it, but the other post about the idea that men "get lucky" is absolutely spot on. Men have to lower their standards to succeed. Women do not.
I suppose females feel insulted because it's their mission to secure the best genes for, perhaps, the only offspring they will ever propagate. Therefore, settling is pretty much out of the question.
Also, women play the role of the 'rejector'. If a woman is alone, then that means she is rejecting every single who asks her out. She could easily have a boy-friend if she were just less discriminative.
I guess there is something naturally more offensive to "damn, you so picky, girl" vs "bro, you gotta try something new"
Online dating has removed any physical limit to a woman's hypergamy. Now that women have good careers, there is no need to settle for beta bux anymore. Imagine if you had your pick of hot girls who will come to your house to sleep with you. No fucking way you will settle for just one girl.
The blue part is how attractive you have to be to get a girl to like you on tinder.
To get a woman who is a 0 to like you, you can be any guy from 0 to 10. (10 representing being more attractive than ~100% of men and 0 being more attractive than 0% of men.)
If you want to get a woman who is a 1 to like you, you need to be a 6 or higher.
If you want to get a woman who is a 2 to like you, you need to be an 8 or higher.
So even if you are more attractive than 80% of guys, the best you can hope for on Tinder is a woman in the bottom 20%. It means that 10% of dudes are getting the top 60% of women. The game is fucked. Women are fucked. They don't want us. They want chad. And not in the same way that we don't want some ugly chick, we only want the hot chick. Oh no no. Even if you are hotter than 80% of guys, you're still going for 2s. Men are pretty much only going for ugly chicks because the top 60% of women on Tinder will only like chad. I don't want to believe this because it sounds so ridiculous, but too many Tinder experiments prove it over and over again. Even if you're chad and you swipe 100 times, only 3 chicks are going to message you. This isn't because "men approach first", it's because women aren't desperate. If 80% of women were competing for the bottom 20% of men, I would be living in a utopia and there would be women protesting in the streets. Just think of how amazing it would be if 80% of women had to compete over you and you're ugly.
The Y-axis is a scale of how attractive a male is and the X-axis for female. For example if a female is at 20% attractiveness a man has to be at 70%~ to have a shot with her.
It makes no sense to tell someone who can get partners to lower their standards. It makes sens to tell someone who can't get partners to lower their standards. By definition, incels can't get partner, so lowering your standards is the sensible advice
It's not sensible advice when it still doesn't change or help shit. The lowest standards I can set are to be with someone who's mentally handicapped, I guess that's the best bet right? Fuck women.
It's not sensible advice when it still doesn't change or help shit
Oh, I can help with that if that's what you want. Most people don't seem to want to change their circumstances and accept them instead. If you want to change them, shoot me a message with your age and your history of rejection and let's work through it
I've been in it and it hasn't helped so far. I'd love to get rid of my autism and social retardation. But it's hard to have hope when nothing has worked.
But it's hard to have hope when nothing has worked.
Indeed it is. You're in a tough spot and you'll need probably to focus on behavioural therapy: what to actually do and say, since these won't come to you naturally. So veer the ship in that direction. I believe in you man
Yeah... life without sex has caused me to be reported to the police twice and I feel like I'm constantly under risk of being arrested because I've been treated like shit all my life and I can't complain to anyone.
It's not sensible advice when it still doesn't change or help shit. The lowest standards I can set are to be with someone who's mentally handicapped, I guess that's the best bet right? Fuck women.
People end up pairing 1 for 1 so your time will come. Even in the worse case scenario you can eventually get the 1/10 women when all the 2-10 men are coupled up. Beside, I'm sorry, but I doubt you've scourged the Earth looking for every woman and checking if she wanted to date you.
There is literally nothing lower than her, she is rock bottom and she's still out of reach for an average looking male.
That statement right there is utter bullshit. Just because you can't get women doesn't mean the average man can't get women. The average man easily dates women 2 points above himself and it's utterly complete bullshit to say the average man can't get a 1/10 to date him. Even you know that. Just open your fucking eyes and notice that all the average men around you have girlfriends and that none of them are dating 1/10 women.
Your case is special. You are an incel. You can't get 1/10 women to date you. Average normie men easily get 7s.
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8 pinkgoldrose 2018-03-17
It makes no sense to tell someone who can get partners to lower their standards. It makes sens to tell someone who can't get partners to lower their standards. By definition, incels can't get partner, so lowering your standards is the sensible advice.
3 sailorgangordie 2018-03-17
Even the lowest tier women on earth can get Chads thanks to the body positivity and fat acceptance movements.
How low do my standards have to go? She's a 1/10 and still got an 9/10 man. There is literally nothing lower than her, she is rock bottom and she's still out of reach for an average looking male.
1 pinkgoldrose 2018-03-17
People end up pairing 1 for 1 so your time will come. Even in the worse case scenario you can eventually get the 1/10 women when all the 2-10 men are coupled up. Beside, I'm sorry, but I doubt you've scourged the Earth looking for every woman and checking if she wanted to date you.
That statement right there is utter bullshit. Just because you can't get women doesn't mean the average man can't get women. The average man easily dates women 2 points above himself and it's utterly complete bullshit to say the average man can't get a 1/10 to date him. Even you know that. Just open your fucking eyes and notice that all the average men around you have girlfriends and that none of them are dating 1/10 women.
Your case is special. You are an incel. You can't get 1/10 women to date you. Average normie men easily get 7s.
2 TopKekketus 2018-03-17
The problem is people DONT end up pairing 1:1, that's a just world fallacy for you. In reality there are 107 men for every 100 women, causing a HUGE disparity in the population. In the US alone there are an extra 2 million males in the 14-28 age range. These extra males will NEVER have a partner no matter how hard they try if everyone was paired off with someone else. But, since not everyone is paired off together it gets even worse, due to women's hypergamy along with the excess number of males, the amount of single men is astronomically higher.
1 sailorgangordie 2018-03-17
I don't know where you live in but I'm in San Fransisco and I literally see Chads with ugly and fat girls daily. However I've never seen an ugly or fat normie male with an attractive woman.
Hypergamy is real, deny it all you want but it's reality. Women don't date down because they have hundreds if not thousands of options. They can just hop on Tinder and pick a chad fuck from their 1000 matches.
1 pinkgoldrose 2018-03-17
Literally everywhere other than san fransisco is full of ugly guys dating hot girls.
3 sailorgangordie 2018-03-17
Lol your moving the goalposts now. I've been to L.A too and its the same thing with the exception of really old rich dudes with sugar baby's.
1 incelwriter 2018-03-17
only cucks lower their standards
1 womenshouldnotvote 2018-03-17
WHAT DO YOU MEAN I SHOULD LOWER MY STANDARDS
MY MAN HAS TO BE 6'3" AND INCREDIBLY HANDSOME MALE MODEL
HE CAN'T BE 6'1" AND BE "JUST" GOOD LOOKING
1 TheVertex_ 2018-03-17
Women are taught from a young age by feminist society that they deserve a prince charming. That they deserve a perfect man for merely existing. That they should never settle for less, even if they're useless, roastie landwhales whose only accomplishment in life is a gender studies degree.
Men are taught the opposite. They are told by feminists that they are not "entitled to anything", and despite any amount of hard work or accomplishment, they should be expected to settle for a low-SMV single mother roastie to raise Chad's kids, and if they're sub2 incels, they shouldn't expect to settle with anything ("you can live without sex hurr durr").
1 fborghes 2018-03-17
may i ask how you know this about woman given your lack of interaction with them? also, does ur mom fit in this mold that you concocted?
6 BF8211 2018-03-17
You're an idiot. How many WWII historians actually fought in the war? How many NASA scientists have actually been in space?
Look at the theme of every TV show/movie/book/magazine/etc geared towards young girls. Look at every single piece of folklore and its Disney adaptations. Look at all the "female empowerment" movements IRL and online. Look at all the support women give to other women on social media.
1 fborghes 2018-03-17
hahaha space and war are SO much different than interacting with women. also, "NASA scientists" are more like physicists, and physics have a LAW behind them, thus you can predict something out of mathematical calculations. history is something that already happened, there is no changing it. women kn the other hand... they are all different and its much easier interacting with them than going to space or studying a helluva lot history. LOL.
1 BF8211 2018-03-17
Missed the point completely
1 fborghes 2018-03-17
nope. you can learn history/physics by studying. you cannot understand a woman (let alone ALL women) by watching sitcoms and hanging out at reddit with other guys who are scared of and/or hate women. it's not hard. you're smarter than this. don't play dumb.
1 BF8211 2018-03-17
No, you’re playing dumb. There is a whole second paragraph to my response that you are completely ignoring because you don’t have a response to it.
1 fborghes 2018-03-17
i did read it, but it lacks coherence, the paragraphs don't even reference one another. first paragraph talks about wwII and nasa scientists and the seconds tells me to look at feminism, support women get and so on... whats should i acknowledge? there ARE groups that support women. that is wonderful. i personally dislike feminists, that's why i avoid them. u jealous of "how much easier women have it"? shit, they get paid less and many have to deal with sexist shit. now they also have u to worry about.
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-03-17
Yeah... life without sex has caused me to be reported to the police twice and I feel like I'm constantly under risk of being arrested because I've been treated like shit all my life and I can't complain to anyone.
1 Yankeedude252 2018-03-17
Life without sex has caused me to concentrate on a career and live a productive life in other areas rather than relationships.
Different strokes.
2 BatBatB 2018-03-17
Cope
1 Yankeedude252 2018-03-17
What if it is? Who cares? At least my way of coping will further my life in other areas. What about yours?
1 currynator3000 2018-03-17
Since the beginning of humans, there has never been a woman who dated down.
1 Mr-Mercedes- 2018-03-17
If I had only lived in Miami for the last year of my life, I would assume there is a law requiring young men to mog their girlfriend by no less than one point.
1 CMXV 2018-03-17
I forgot who said it, but the other post about the idea that men "get lucky" is absolutely spot on. Men have to lower their standards to succeed. Women do not.
1 Mr-Mercedes- 2018-03-17
Me.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Braincels/comments/84hil5/why_its_called_getting_lucky/
3 BF8211 2018-03-17
I fucking love this post so much.
1 Mr-Mercedes- 2018-03-17
I suppose females feel insulted because it's their mission to secure the best genes for, perhaps, the only offspring they will ever propagate. Therefore, settling is pretty much out of the question.
Also, women play the role of the 'rejector'. If a woman is alone, then that means she is rejecting every single who asks her out. She could easily have a boy-friend if she were just less discriminative.
I guess there is something naturally more offensive to "damn, you so picky, girl" vs "bro, you gotta try something new"
1 CptErection23 2018-03-17
Online dating has removed any physical limit to a woman's hypergamy. Now that women have good careers, there is no need to settle for beta bux anymore. Imagine if you had your pick of hot girls who will come to your house to sleep with you. No fucking way you will settle for just one girl.
2 Yankeedude252 2018-03-17
I would, but I'm weird. That's all I want.
1 Mest666 2018-03-17
African kids, plx lower your standards and drink water from the sea.
1 TacdeR 2018-03-17
lmao
1 amazing-tony 2018-03-17
Shoo African child you aren't entitled to this apple that I'm eating! Go eat your muddy flies and lower your standards!
1 just_for_the_record 2018-03-17
women have to lower their standards because they're living in la la land
1 DankIncel 2018-03-17
Can you explain that pic to me?
3 just_for_the_record 2018-03-17
The blue part is how attractive you have to be to get a girl to like you on tinder.
To get a woman who is a 0 to like you, you can be any guy from 0 to 10. (10 representing being more attractive than ~100% of men and 0 being more attractive than 0% of men.)
If you want to get a woman who is a 1 to like you, you need to be a 6 or higher.
If you want to get a woman who is a 2 to like you, you need to be an 8 or higher.
So even if you are more attractive than 80% of guys, the best you can hope for on Tinder is a woman in the bottom 20%. It means that 10% of dudes are getting the top 60% of women. The game is fucked. Women are fucked. They don't want us. They want chad. And not in the same way that we don't want some ugly chick, we only want the hot chick. Oh no no. Even if you are hotter than 80% of guys, you're still going for 2s. Men are pretty much only going for ugly chicks because the top 60% of women on Tinder will only like chad. I don't want to believe this because it sounds so ridiculous, but too many Tinder experiments prove it over and over again. Even if you're chad and you swipe 100 times, only 3 chicks are going to message you. This isn't because "men approach first", it's because women aren't desperate. If 80% of women were competing for the bottom 20% of men, I would be living in a utopia and there would be women protesting in the streets. Just think of how amazing it would be if 80% of women had to compete over you and you're ugly.
2 rhapsodyforever 2018-03-17
The Y-axis is a scale of how attractive a male is and the X-axis for female. For example if a female is at 20% attractiveness a man has to be at 70%~ to have a shot with her.
1 suicidal-pothead 2018-03-17
There is literally no argument for this. You never see the opposite, ever. I'm sick of it.
2 MotivationHacker 2018-03-17
/u/pinkgoldrose has a sensible perspective on it
4 suicidal-pothead 2018-03-17
It's not sensible advice when it still doesn't change or help shit. The lowest standards I can set are to be with someone who's mentally handicapped, I guess that's the best bet right? Fuck women.
1 MotivationHacker 2018-03-17
Oh, I can help with that if that's what you want. Most people don't seem to want to change their circumstances and accept them instead. If you want to change them, shoot me a message with your age and your history of rejection and let's work through it
1 suicidal-pothead 2018-03-17
My circumstances can't be changed because it's my fucked up brain.
1 MotivationHacker 2018-03-17
You think the brain cannot be changed? What is psychology, psychotherapy, and philosophy for if not to improve matters of the mind?
1 suicidal-pothead 2018-03-17
I've been in it and it hasn't helped so far. I'd love to get rid of my autism and social retardation. But it's hard to have hope when nothing has worked.
1 MotivationHacker 2018-03-17
Indeed it is. You're in a tough spot and you'll need probably to focus on behavioural therapy: what to actually do and say, since these won't come to you naturally. So veer the ship in that direction. I believe in you man
1 suicidal-pothead 2018-03-17
Yeah. I need to do that and find a cope and I might be okay
-4 fryxtz 2018-03-17
if you generalize generalize generalize, then generalize generalize generalize
1 fborghes 2018-03-17
may i ask how you know this about woman given your lack of interaction with them? also, does ur mom fit in this mold that you concocted?
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-03-17
Yeah... life without sex has caused me to be reported to the police twice and I feel like I'm constantly under risk of being arrested because I've been treated like shit all my life and I can't complain to anyone.
4 suicidal-pothead 2018-03-17
It's not sensible advice when it still doesn't change or help shit. The lowest standards I can set are to be with someone who's mentally handicapped, I guess that's the best bet right? Fuck women.
1 suicidal-pothead 2018-03-17
My circumstances can't be changed because it's my fucked up brain.
1 pinkgoldrose 2018-03-17
People end up pairing 1 for 1 so your time will come. Even in the worse case scenario you can eventually get the 1/10 women when all the 2-10 men are coupled up. Beside, I'm sorry, but I doubt you've scourged the Earth looking for every woman and checking if she wanted to date you.
That statement right there is utter bullshit. Just because you can't get women doesn't mean the average man can't get women. The average man easily dates women 2 points above himself and it's utterly complete bullshit to say the average man can't get a 1/10 to date him. Even you know that. Just open your fucking eyes and notice that all the average men around you have girlfriends and that none of them are dating 1/10 women.
Your case is special. You are an incel. You can't get 1/10 women to date you. Average normie men easily get 7s.