The biggest problem is only made more obvious by all the snake oil salesman.

That's the definition of masculinity.

Nice Guys and incels are basically one in the same. And those same guys then follow the Manosphere train that starts off as PC nice guy to PUA to TRP to TBP to MGTOW.

You see it all the time through the RP roots of glorifying the male asshole stereotype and presenting it as if it's the obvious conclusion to how nice guy game fails.

You see it all the time when they claim that the "blue pill" way is just to be a friend and "respecting women" and being nice and if it doesn't work then they presume it must be the opposite.

I've seen so many guys say "I've tried befriending them and waiting for them to make the first move but then I just get friend zoned"

Or if you talk about chatting women at all they immediately presume you're talking about PUA.

Everything has to be some social product.

If you tell 10000 guys to try anything some will find success. Those who won't can listen to the next charlatan who says to do the opposite. And some will succeed, and then those who fail at both are ready to be told that it's just something unchangeable. And they should just support Weinstein.

If you tell 10000 guys to try anything some will find success. Those who won't can listen to the next charlatan who says to do the opposite. And some will succeed, and then those who fail at both are ready to be told that it's just something unchangeable.

So can I conclude that women don’t go for that one type of personality? Just be yourself?

The person you're best at is the person you are when you are alone keeping yourself amused doing your own thing.

You'd be so much better off finding ways to invite that guy out.

You'd be so much better off finding ways to invite that guy out.

Could you elaborate?

What I figured out a while ago is that you always want to be the most comfortable person around you. If there's an explosion and everyone else is freaking out then fine you can freak out a little but you still have to always be more comfortable than they are.

I do a lot of time travel in my head which is like visualization. I imagine that eventually I'll be able to be exactly as I am when I'm doing my thing at home by myself. So the dating experience for me is just trying to strategically get women as comfortable with me as possible until I can be exactly who I am without any worry.

But you do have peel the layers off with proper timing. You cant just start farting on the first date. But if after a few it's fine. Stuff like that means things are going well.

If on the other hand if you're even more nervous about that after a few dates you're heading the wrong way.

I guess at least some of the things you said made sense to me. Thank you based neomancr.

Bad bot

Get that MGTOW bullshit outta here. Being a virgin IS a problem.

You don't fucking say

Plenty of brilliant men in history never had sex.

Maybe try embracing VOLCEL enlightenment

Cool.

COPE. Being a virgin doesn't mean you are smart.

phew was afraid it was one of them subjective truths

No.

Says who?

Virgin shaming, how original.

Yes there is and I already did. Pay a prostitute to have sex with you. Doing anything else is a waste of time and effort for (true) incels.

What's wrong with being alone? I love being alone. The only use women have for me is sex.

You do know this sub is called (bra)incels not foreveralone?

bragging about sex? that's childish

Even being a beta faggot like this guy is better than being ugly. That is the power of face.

You mean being an actual nice person that is or isn't good looking is better than being an ugly asshole. Yes, yes i have to agree

No I mean face

Still. A good face with any personality is better than an ugly face with a horrible personality

I agree, a good face beats any personality with a bad face.

I didnt say that at all. Maybe on tinder. But not in the real world. If you have an equally horrible personality. Yeah the hot one will get pussy, the ugly one. Hell nah. A not super pretty person with a great personality can also get relationships. Just don't be a "nice guy"

Depends entirely how ugly. Most people here are beyond what personality can save.

Not most. They think they have a great personality so are whining dicks about why people wont date them

Ok

The bottom three will come under societal expectations in top 2.

What a fail post.

I think the child custody is a really important one, I've heard of addict mothers getting custody. It's a really broken system. They don't do shit for rehab either just stick them on the methadone and leave them to it...

for real. My step son ended up with his alcoholic, drug addicted, trashy as fuck abusive mother for 12 fucking years before she finally screwed up badly enough for us to get custody. The system in place is pathetic. There are some REALLY good fathers out there and some really shitty mothers, I hope it's a system that gets some reform someday

I think its on the way, foster care is getting better I'm my country too but you still get arseholes that look at a black kid with white parents and shake their head and grumble something under their breath how pathetic is that...

Nope only real problem is roastie whores not dating me

Oof, calling women that and thinking you’re a great person. It’s amazing how chicks aren’t throwing themselves at you

How dare you call womyn chicks what are they just farm animals for you to breed ddiscusting i hate u.

What a stupid repost. The amount of cuckolding feminists on this subreddit is getting out of control.

Women and loser men -- you're not smart or funny, and you're not cool. You're the biggest losers here and that's why you're obessed with the subject of this subreddit. It's you compensating for glaring holes in your own lives. Whether you realize it or not, you're incredibly weak and empty people. Comparing yourself to the dregs is for gutter trash.

Yup. Because feminazis are a problem for everyone.

Seriously. Dont think exactly like one. And a whole hoarde attacks you calling you a gender traitor!

op = virgin

dumb ignorant post

Is that because women won't date you?

yes, now fuck off normie.

What I figured out a while ago is that you always want to be the most comfortable person around you. If there's an explosion and everyone else is freaking out then fine you can freak out a little but you still have to always be more comfortable than they are.

I do a lot of time travel in my head which is like visualization. I imagine that eventually I'll be able to be exactly as I am when I'm doing my thing at home by myself. So the dating experience for me is just trying to strategically get women as comfortable with me as possible until I can be exactly who I am without any worry.

But you do have peel the layers off with proper timing. You cant just start farting on the first date. But if after a few it's fine. Stuff like that means things are going well.

If on the other hand if you're even more nervous about that after a few dates you're heading the wrong way.

Depends entirely how ugly. Most people here are beyond what personality can save.