doesn't matter, they have a /r/braincels poster detection system

it's over

yeah but they're hot

incorrect, there is nothing worse than saying mean things about females on the internet including rape and murder

Instead, it’s the normie men who actually do physical harm to women, as opposed to just shit posting

Nobody said normie men don't do bad things. Considering that the majority of men on the planet fall into that category, though, it's painting with a pretty broad brush.

Then people need to stop blaming us.

Blaming you for what? Raping and murdering women? I've not seen anyone directly say "this is what incels do", but I have seen people say "this is what I've seen incels talk about doing".

The recent school shooting was blamed on an incel, even though he wasn't.

Wasn't that entirely based off him showing admiration for ER?

I don't know what it was based on and I don't care. We got the blame for something a normie did, like always.

I don't know what it was based on and I don't care.

Having looked into it, it does appear to be that. He made a post supportive of a guy that incel forums like to (jokingly or not) hold up as some kind of hero. I can see why people would jump to conclusions if they were familiar with the broad strokes of "incel culture".

We got the blame for something a normie did, like always.

When you say "always", what are you referring to? What other incidents have there been?

We are constantly called rapists, whenever a normie meets someone who's a dick to them, they call them incels for some reason, suicides also get blamed on us.

We are constantly called rapists.

By who? I can see being called potential rapists, given how much "there's nothing wrong with rape" and "they deserve it anyway" shit I've seen peddled here, but a rapist virgin is a paradox.

whenever a normie meets someone who's a dick to them, they call them incels for some reason

The vast, vast majority of people most likely have no idea what an invel even is. It's not a word I've ever heard outside of small subsections of the internet like subreddits. Why would they use a word they've likely never even heard as an insult?

suicides also get blamed on us.

That's understandable, since half this sub is people telling one another how worthless they are and how the best thing to do is just kill themselves.

Mostly inceltears. I don't know why they call us rapists either.

The rope thing is meme dude

The rope thing is meme dude

How does that change anything? The knee-jerk response is to tell someone how over everything is and how there's no hope. Meme or not, joke or not, that kind of thing is obviously going to have an impact on an already vulnerable person.

Do you believe every meme or joke should be taken seriously? What about subs like r/2meirl4meirl ?

We're just more acceptive and understanding when it comes to suicide.

Do you believe every meme or joke should be taken seriously?

I do not, but it stops being a joke when you get people on posts like u/Stagetail's farewell blaming "femoids" for his choice and acting like it was all inevitable.

We're just more acceptive and understanding when it comes to suicide.

And encouraging, even in a jokey fashion.

Right, he blamed women, not us. Other people blamed us however.

Only in jokey fashion. Telling someone to straight up kill themselves is against the rules.

Right, he blamed women, not us. Other people blamed us however.

I'm not talking about the guy's post, I'm talking about the people who went into the comments of the post to blame femoids, feminism, evil roasties etc etc.

Only in jokey fashion. Telling someone to straight up kill themselves is against the rules.

Right, and the constant "joking" about how every incel might as well give up and die doesn't contirbute to anyone's low self-esteem, in your mind?

What does those posts have to do with anything?

Sure, if you got the sense of humor and the awareness of a 12 year old. Again, what about the sub r/2meirl4meirl ? They constantly joke about depression and suicide too, are you gonna blame them for every suicide as well?

What does those posts have to do with anything?

You mean within the context of this conversation? They mean that people are using their "memes and jokes" as if they were valid reasons for someone to kill themselves.

Sure, if you got the sense of humor and the awareness of a 12 year old.

You said it, not me :-P

Again, what about the sub r/2meirl4meirl ? They constantly joke about depression and suicide too, are you gonna blame them for every suicide as well?

There's a difference between self-deprecating humour and outright telling people who make their misery clear that there's no hope for them and they should just die.

Except both subs do the same though.

Whew Nelly then I guess you haven't been on incel tears before!

I wish this sub could make up it's collective mind as to whether I'm an IT mole or someone who doesn't post there :-P

Replace normie men with Chads. Beta-cucks don't abuse women, I agree. It's typically your brash Chad types.

Pointing out how privileged women are is a much larger threat to women than the odd physical abusive chad though. Ideas are powerful and dangerous.

The ideas of third-wave feminism are ruining Western civilization.

Why? Because they'll lose their many privileges?

Jesus Christ

Nice shaming attempt

ER wasn't even a bad dude because of his inceldom. He was a bad dude because he was a textbook narcissist. (Although I believe his acts themselves were a rally against a society that rejected him.) Also, he wasn't actually a bad looking guy at all. His problem really was his attitude lol. He was a mentalcel. He could have maybe tried to get a bit more jacked and less slender. That's easy to do by gymceling and eating.

Most incels are quiet losers who don't actually hurt anyone. We are very angry, but most of us would be very kind and happy people if some gynoid gave us a chance.

ER was a complete narcissist - watching his vlogs it's shocking just how highly he thought of himself. He considered himself to be a model man but, honestly, watching him visit the golf course to experience nature and drive around in his shitty car listening to cheesy romance pop songs the only thing that made him stand out was how he took being a massive wanker to a real extreme.

True, but it is important to understand where the narcissism comes from. It is a compensatory mechanism for deep rooted feelings of shame and inadequacy...feelings most of us incels share as well. He probably didn't start out that way. He became that way over time. It could honestly happen to some of us. I'd like to believe I'd never end up like him, but I was never this bad. My thought patterns have changed over time. I don't like what I'm becoming, but at the same time, a part of me does. A part of me hates this world.

You are absolutely right about how that develops. It could happen to any of us, not just incels.

What we really need are positive male role models, not female validation.

We need both. It's hard to guide yourself through this when so few people experience it and come out okay. I've never heard of a well adjusted incel. There have been some famous incel scientists, but they were all depressed and misanthropic. It is well known that companionship and affection are human needs.

The posts he made for trolling in the bodybuilding forums reek of inceltears behaviour.

Like I said a few times before, if anyone's gonna ER, it's those unnaturally obsessed users in inceltears.

I liked his car

Each to his own I suppose. I wouldn't be seen dead in it personally. ^{Though ER seemed to be fine with that.}

He wasn't really an incel. He was more like the "forever alone" women. Those women only want Chads, but they're not Stacys. He was the same, but in reverse.

YUUUUUUUUUUPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP

Women lust after powerful men, that's a double edged sword

Yes as a black pilled normie I have been shitty to wymyn at times. I'd imagine incels don't get enough time with wymyn to actually be dicks to them. I won't hit, but I will /have spanked them like children for their foolishness KEK.

You’re not the incel spokesperson. There’s a lot of hate and threatening comments seeping from this group in particular, and I don’t think you’re able to definitively say it’s all trolling.

The threats are empty. Hate certainly exists but is rarely acted upon. The hate is expressed in a more playful and jovial way: memes.

This is the truth right here. I stopped counting when this point was repeated on the old incels sub.

I guess the memes and exaggerated satire overshadowed everything.

The threats are empty. Hate certainly exists but is rarely acted upon.

Yes. And ? This whole argument ( Along with OP ) really boils down to "Incels don't rape people because they never really get in a situtation where they can rape people". This says nothing about how good incels are, ethically. And that's putting the emphasis on rape when there are a fair share of reports of incels doing sexual assault.

The hate is expressed in a more playful and jovial way: memes.

Again, what does that really change ? Nazis too have started using memes to propagate their views, it doesn't make them any less repulsive.

Yes. And ? This whole argument ( Along with OP ) really boils down to "Incels don't rape people because they never really get in a situtation where they can rape people". This says nothing about how good incels are, ethically.

No, that's not what the argument boils down to. Incels are put into situations where they can rape people. Like it or not, we are forced to interact with women in some capacity in our lives (e.g., work, school), and if we truly desired to do so, we could rape women.

The reason we don't rape is simple. Incels tend to be introverted, agreeable, and socially awkward. They also tend to be physically weak (except for some gymcels). Conversely, rapists tend to be grandiose narcissists. They are anti-social deviants with a superiority complex who take pleasure in having power over others. They have personalities diametrically contrary to that of incels, who unironically describe themselves as subhuman.

The reason we don't rape women (or abuse them in any other capacity) is because it is not in our nature to do so.

The hilarious thing is that the same traits that make someone prone to being a rapist (or an abuser, e.g., wife beaters) are the same Dark Triad traits that women are highly attracted to.

And that's putting the emphasis on rape when there are a fair share of reports of incels doing sexual assault.

Again, it's a statistical thing. I am not arguing that no incel has ever committed sexual assault. I'm arguing that, in light of well-documented statistical correlations, the abusers are typically Chads who the woman is dating.

Moreover, a lot of these "incel sexual assaults" are just women pissed off that a sub8 male had the gall to approach them ("sexual harassment!").

Nazis too have started using memes to propagate their views, it doesn't make them any less repulsive.

Well, it actually sort of does. A Nazi meming in 2018 is better than a Nazi killing Jews in 1942.

And the analogy fails further: Nazis meme because they have concrete future political aims; Incels meme to cope, because they know their circumstances will never improve.

Incels tend to be introverted, agreeable, and socially awkward.

This doesn't prevent the urge of rape, because the core concept of rape is it doesn't require any form of consent. The way it does prevent rape is that it prevents being in a very isolated situation with a woman, which again, brings it to "Incels aren't in a situation where they can rape".

They also tend to be physically weak (except for some gymcels).

You're not gonna tell me incels are weaker than women, that's just physically impossible.

I'm 6'1, and sure, a 5'4 man would have trouble overpowering me, but men that are several inches shorter than me would still easily, because even at equal height, the difference between a woman and a man is massive. And you don't realize it because you rarely see men and women of same height next to each other, but men are actually "taller" even if you have the same height; Their shoulders are higher because of a shorter neck, their arms are longer, and so is their torso.

You're way underestimating the difference between men and women if you think being on the low end of the male spectrum makes you physically weak compared to most women.

The reason we don't rape women (or abuse them in any other capacity) is because it is not in our nature to do so.

You mean, it's not in your nature to take by force the thing you obsess over all the damn time, from people you hate and despise ? That seems just a bit weak as a defense I'll be honest, because at that point I just don't see where the problem lies when you're down to considering women like cattle.

I'm arguing that, in light of well-documented statistical correlations, the abusers are typically Chads who the woman is dating.

How many incels are there, really ? That statistical correlation sounds like incels being the tiny, tiny minority they are, to me, nothing else.

the abusers are typically Chads who the woman is dating.

Again, if abusers are almost always the person a woman dates ( Because rapes mostly happen between close people in an intimate setting, not "in the woods" stuff ), this really means incels rarely get the opportunity.

Moreover, a lot of these "incel sexual assaults" are just women pissed off that a sub8 male had the gall to approach them ("sexual harassment!").

No, they're reported by incels themselves.

A Nazi meming in 2018 is better than a Nazi killing Jews in 1942.

This is assuming one wouldn't do the other if they were in the same context. Give a memeing nazi the opportunity to kill a jew with 0 risk, would they do it ? I think they would, quite often, and if they didn't, would they actually have been capable of taking direct part in the killing squadrons or death camps ? Probably not.

Incels meme to cope, because they know their circumstances will never improve.

I have personally seen a lot of incels who clearly want to further a political aim. A dumb, unrealistic one, sure, but still, the will is there, and that's really all that matters as far as ethics go.

Yep, I got banned from IT for posting that women are mostly assaulted and brutalized by those close to them. Apparently they can't handle the truth there.

They need the socially awkward ugly male boogeyman man to maintain their bullshit.

that is statistically true. lmao. they banned you for providing accurate statistics?

Sadly that is true, which makes it scarier

And yet they call us the echo chamber

You tried to defend incels as harmless victims on a thread about an incel sexually assaulting a stranger on the bus. What they couldn't handle was you being a massive dick.

Frankly, this is easily the single most powerful argument incels have.

Why do feminists concern themselves with neckbeards, nice guys and incels on the internet as opposed to the substantial proportion of men who can easily get women and who concretely harm them? The statistics are staggering. Thousands of women are in abusive relationships in America. Who does the abusing? "Nice guys"? "Incels"? No, the nice guy was rejected, stupid. They are abused by Chads.

This boils down to something fairly simple: deep down, and contrary to what feminists say, they do not think that the worth of a man has anything to do with whether or not he's a misogynistic scumbag. Rather, they believe that the worth of a man lies in his ability to get women. This is one of those things that I think RPers get right: feminism is less of a principled political ideology than it is a female sexual strategy to obtain top men.

What about movements like MeToo? What about feminists trying to impeach Trump and being disgusted by his hateful words?

Does this not exists?

What about feminists trying to impeach Trump and being disgusted by his hateful words?

Trump is sub8

What about movements like MeToo?

The principal victims of #MeToo are ugly men. Louis CK, Ansari, Kevin Spacey, etc

They are rich and powerful What about Cosby?

That was the point of MeToo, to call out this awful behaviour.

Also, Kevin Spacey isnt ugly at all.

They are rich and powerful

Incels emphasize looks over all else. Secondary to that is alpha characteristics. Money is even below that. If a woman loves you for your money, she loves your money, not you.

Also, Kevin Spacey isnt ugly at all.

He's a 6 in my eyes. A sub8, hence subhuman.

Emphasizing looks over everything is reductionist and will lead to poor conclusions.

If you see this as a problem, wouldnt you agree that you should look at the full picture and not cherry-pick whatever feels like the correct answer ?

EDIT: 7 is a good rating. Also, Spacey is, at least, an 8.

If spacey's an 8, I must be a 2 for you. lol. fuck off.

I fucking hate Trump but even the mocking of him is the same old toxic bullshit that causes a lot of grief amongst men. Mainly attacks on their image over things they can't control, such as having a small dick, balding or being short. No wonder some men end up fucking bitter and tired of society when they're restlessly mocked for literally no fault of their own.

I agree with that.

If you want to mock trump, you should do it for this ideas, not his looks.

Also, it feels to me that the "competitive" aspect of it is what cause this attitudes. After all, the people who really care about their dick size is men. Women dont seem to be that bothered by it. Even I dont mind small dicks. (Im a guy though, so I guess my opinion wont matter to you).

You know, I try to do that (say that the expectations placed in men is what creates all this mess or, at least, creates part of it). A lot of people that I know do that.

I guess this little conversation is over. Im sorry it had to be this way.

feminism is a political cult that is entirely different. Why do feminists accept the premise they have to be like men to have value? Why do feminists support 3rd world immigration from cultures that are far more "patriarchal" than the "patriarchy" here and are largely criminal rapists? Feminism is a way for Cultural Marxists to use women for their political goals. Thus, oppose Trump. Didn't oppose Bill Clinton, did they?

Cultural Marxism

Yeah, whatever. Go back to your hole.

Metoo started off as something good, but had gone too far, and people are either afraid of it or don't take it seriously at all. Something that was ment to shed light on sexual assult ended up trivializing it and diluting the meaning, to the point where people question women who say metoo. It's completely backfired on itself.

Im sorry, what is your point? If it "started as something good", what is the problem then? Are you saying that people should not come forward?

Trigger happy on the downvote button aren't ya?

Also, I'm not sure I understand your logic here. If something was good has turned to something bad, don't you think we should either stop or change said thing? And not once did I say women shouldnt come forward, I absolutely think they should, but the metoo trend is trivializing what the real meaning of sexual assult is, so it's hurting real victims of sexual assult, which is why I believe the whole metoo movement needs to stop.

No. It is not "trivializing" sexual assault.

If anything, it's making people feel more secure about coming forward.

I mean, what is your suggestion, then? MeToo is about coming forward, what do you suggest if not that?

Ps: Im downvoting you because you are wrong. Feel free to downvote me, mate. It is a free country.

Yes it is trivializing it.

It made people more secure about coming forward, which was a good thing, but now it has made the wrong people feel more secure about "coming forward" people that were never even sexually assaulted. I mean, did you already forget about the whole Aziz ansari thing?

Sure, to other feminists, people like you, #metoo is still a good thing, but to rest of society, normal people, metoo is a big fat joke.

Btw, the downvote button isn't ment for things that you disagree on.

So, you agree that feminism is necessary in this society that rewards toxic masculinity then?

Feminism and feminists reward "toxic" masculinity the most.

BULLSHIT!

All those "Anti-SJeW" people have been crying for ages that Anita Sarkeesian says that masculinity is bad because "mAsCuLiNiTy IsNt ToXiC"

Feminists complain about toxic masculinity.

You're mistaken. There's a difference between words and action. Sure, feminists complain about toxic masculinity but they constantly reward it without fail.

Do you think most feminists are dating slimy beta amoeba men? No.

I've seen dozens of examples of feminists going against their beliefs once a hypermasculine chad shows up.

"There's a hot guy manspreading on the bus right next to me so I don't know if I should be mad or enjoy the proximity"

This was a real tweet by a relatively famous feminist. I don't have the link to it but if someone has it feel free to give it.

Wow, Today I Learned that tweeting something is "rewarding it".

Also, is not like man-spreading is that big of a problem. I meant it more in the sense of boys being encourage to be more assertive while girls are encourage to be more passive (from childhood). Now, that is a problem.

Also, is not like man-spreading is that big of a problem. I meant it more in the sense of boys being encourage to be more assertive while girls are encourage to be more passive (from childhood). Now, that is a problem.

It would be so nice if feminists lived on planet earth and not in their heads.

Little boys are drugged on ritalin and girls and told they're amazing. Boys are told they can't do things and girls are told they can.

What fucking planet do feminists live on? IT's Like No Matter How Much They Influence Public Policy They Never Admit Anything Changed. Feminism Revolves Around Pretending That Changing Something Doesn't Change It and We Still Live in the Past Before the Change.

It's crazy how fast you losers downvote us but we don't downvote you as fast. Why are you such sad losers. Go outside and get a life and stop trolling.

did the trolls eat paint chips as kids? is that why they lack the basic powers of observation?

So, you agree that society puts restrains in young boys and that they end up this way because of expectations placed upon them?

Anything changed

Just because the past was worse doesnt mean the present is "good"

So, you agree that society puts restrains in young boys and that they end up this way because of expectations placed upon them?

Society in this case is nothing more than a bunch of individual woman all acting as if a monolitic block, but as long as we call it "society" we can remove all of those individual choices and pretend there is some overarching intelligence that needs to be changed.

Women, themselves, could change "patriarchy" yesterday, but that would require going against what feels good, and as evidenced by the state of planet earth, going against what feels good is worse than death for women. Instead, they want us to toe their line while they fuck other guys and lie about it to us, their friends, their families, and sometimes even themselves. They want our compassion and cooperation but don't want to do what traditionally brought that cooperation to the fore.

The funny thing is, all you feminists want men to be "nice guys" but then punish them for it. Then you get mad they lash out, when you yourselves need to be more honest about your inconsistency, but as we also know about women, honesty is not one of their virtues.

You say that society isnt a monolith, yet you talk about women as if they were a monolith.

Ps: I agree with the part that we need to go agaisnt what feels good but Im pretty sure we are thinking of very different feels

You say that society isnt a monolith, yet you talk about women as if they were a monolith.

Women act in accordance with herd thinking. You aren't independent thinkers, you all think you are though. That's the funny part about you--you all say the same shit as each other and think you're original or clever. Every girl isn't like other girls, and you actually think that when you say something and do something else, no one else notices. That's narcissism. Women's entire strategy is in saying something nice and reasonable, and then doing the opposite and lying to herself about it (the hamster).

You use the word "society" as a cover so as not to have to ask "are women doing their part in intersexual relations? Are women honest with themselves and each other?" Come on now, you're not nearly intelligent enough to try and trip most of us up.

It is true that Im not intelligent enough. I know that.

Also, I agree that the patriarchy affects everyone in some way. Obviously, even feminists are subject to biases.

Also2, Im not a girl, ye' dingus.

You're a sad retard, Jesus fucking Christ

I meant it more in the sense of boys being encourage to be more assertive while girls are encourage to be more passive (from childhood). Now, that is a problem.

Yes, feminists say this is a problem, but actions speak louder than words. What people sometimes observe is that even though women may say men shouldn't have to be aggressive and dominant, they still prefer aggressive and dominant men anyway. And since most men want to attract women, women's preferences encourage men to act that way.

For example, Emma Watson is known for speaking out in support of feminism. In a speech at the UN, she said:

"I want men to take up this mantle so their daughters, sisters and mothers can be free from prejudice but also so their sons have permission to be vulnerable and human too... If men don’t have to be aggressive, women won’t be compelled to be submissive. If men don’t need to control, women won’t have to be controlled."

Yet elsewhere, she has publicly stated she prefers men who are aggressive:

She has spent the last year deeply in love with her hunky American boyfriend. But now Emma Watson has said she doubts she will date a British man ever again - because they are too shy. The Harry Potter star said that even though men from the UK dress well and have good manners they take two months just to ask her out. Instead an American will come up to her straight away and suggest a date - a boldness she finds attractive.

Women can talk all they want about how men shouldn't need to be aggressive, but if they collectively show in their own lives that they prefer men to be aggressive, that's what men will do.

Being bold and being agressive are not the same thing.

Women complain about toxic masculinity then send love letters to terrorists.

Yeah they complain but they would never fuck soyboy cuck, they would rather fuck anti-women misogynistic chad

"Soyboy" isnt a real thing.

"Cuckoldry" is a fetish.

Ugh.

Top fucking kek my guy

This is so bullshit. This fucking subreddit is literally the epitome of "men speaking about their their emotions", yet it's constantly shit on and the people here are openly mocked on Reddit for being "pathetic".

Yeah and I'm not just talking about the people saying there's rapists/paedophiles here or whatever. I'm talking about the constant harassment where just by being a man talking about how lonely you are just gets met with "OH MY GOD YOU FUCKING LOSER KILL YOURSELF WHY DO YOU FEEL SO SORRY FOR YOURSELF". That's perpetuation of toxic masculinity, and not only do feminists on this website continue to mock men with emotional issues they're perpetuating toxic masculinity while pretending to care.

Fuck off with these platitudes. You can't even allow men to have a place to vent their own feelings without sticking your nose in and trying to police the discussion.

That is... actually an interesting way to put it.

And I agree that this conversations should happen.

I guess I just wish your views on women were less generalized and more, well, nuanced.

Also, it is true that some people are luckier than others. It is a sad thing that an equal world can only a dream.

I guess, in a way, the way you phrase your arguments turn you into a "laughing stock". But, then again, you do believe in those regressive views.

Im sorry.

Fall in a ditch loser

They bitch about it but their actions speak louder than their words. It's like racist shitheels claiming they have black friends.

That was my first critique of feminism--

if women won't change what they are attracted to, feminism is a bait and switch joke for gullible, well intentioned men (aka, what used to be good people and are now idiots).

Women are the only reason there is a "patriarchy," otherwise MIT, which has over a 30% virginity rate, almost all of which are men, would be flooded (pun intended) with women looking for their intelligent caring man.

As it is...

words, and nothing else...words are cheap...

...the problem with this subreddit is that some of the "incels" here are cuckolds who don't realize women's main strategy in life is to say something reasonable, and then do the opposite, or do the "reasonable" thing with certain unstated or downplayed stipulations. If you listen to a woman, you might as well be a fucking idiot. Even they don't trust each other...maybe you should learn from that.

Feminists get more wet for toxic masculinity than literally any other women.

I think the word for people that do that isn't "non-feminist" so much as it is "criminal"...

That's only because you'll never get close enough to a woman to harm one.

We actively avoid women, how the fuck are we supposed to harm one. Idiotic logic

It is idiot logic that since many normal straight men come into contact with women, some men will harm women. It is fucktards like OP who are upset they're alone and blame other guys.

But hey, I am on this subreddit for a laugh, I don't belong here.

Wish we had the old mods like u/azavii back to ban these morons.

Sorry you're an incel. But you can't ban someone because they're not an incel. Also, what does braincel mean?

I was referring to you for your second sentence.

It is fucktards like OP who are upset they're alone and blame other guys.

Which is totally out of left field because he was just arguing (accurately) that the NEETs on this subreddit may be useless members of society, but are not threats to it. So you pull out some tired irrelevant argument.

You could not avoid women while also not harming them.

90% of this sub are guys with crippling social anxiety due to being really ugly

So is this post about trying to see some silver lining to their lifestyles then?

no im just saying that incels will never approach women

What do you intend on achieving with comments like this besides harassment?

This is really one of the most idiotic things I've read. Lol how dumb do you have to be actually believe shy, socially awkward virgins want to beat women? You've constructed a strawman that is completely separate from reality.

This is why normie should be banned from this sub. You can't have a conversation with these people.

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Reminder Lol@if anyone thinks this is a “defence” for incels

You're not chad, dude. Get over yourself.

There is a serious flood of imbelilic losers with worthless lives coming here to try and bolster their lack of self-esteem.

You're not fooling anyone trolls. You have the most pathetic lives of all. Is focusing on other people the only way you can keep from noticing what a waste of life you are?

Lol 1 karma impersonator

I’d be willing to wager that on average the rate of “stranger” rape was higher amongst incel trolls than average men However few men are incel trolls so most rapists will not be incel trolls Also, most rapes are committed by those close to the women, so another mitigatory factor

Your dumb, most incels like me are afraid to even approach or even look at a woman

That’s why I said, most people won’t randomly speak to you unless you dirán to them... You just made a load of bullshit out of nothing

I love how you think your mere statement about being willing to wager (not even actual willingness) makes the statement true. So spoiled and childish.

...pointless trolling much?

Hes got a point.

true, but since girls think those violent criminals are so hawt, people would rather rag on anonymous ugly guys on the internet

no bro, you be bugging, dudes who rape and kill anyone are seriously hated by regular people lol

yet they never want for sex, love, and affection, funny that

also your vocabulary suggests you live around low-iq people, you should know pretty well women live thugs

man what are you talking about?

I misjudged your knowledge on this, my bad

i mean, you used pretty bad grammar and i don't see how it connected to what i said lmao

lol

The reason you’re an incel is prolly cuz you’re a pussy and most pussys wont murder rape or abuse anyone.

I don't know what it was based on and I don't care. We got the blame for something a normie did, like always.

Right, he blamed women, not us. Other people blamed us however.

Only in jokey fashion. Telling someone to straight up kill themselves is against the rules.

Except both subs do the same though.

They are rich and powerful What about Cosby?

That was the point of MeToo, to call out this awful behaviour.

Also, Kevin Spacey isnt ugly at all.