Some ppl in this subreddit...

181  2018-03-11 by timeout400

397 comments

Men are scum!

Everyone on r/IncelTears

Except I’m not mentally ill, just 0/10. This is still pretty accurate though.

normally i would remove this for generalising the sub but i hate these fuckers so much

IT tend to generalize. so why the fuck not?

are you dumb, i'd remove it if it generalised actual incels

i'm retarded v*Rgin incel but why is there a rule against generalizing incels despite us generalizing inceltears lmao

because we don't brigade inceltears

"Men are privileged"

I'm not here to bully but when you say that a vagina isn't elastic that's just a poor understanding of anatomy.

Found the loose roastie

Haha yeah you're right dicks are totally capable of physically altering the appearance of vaginal lips. You sure showed me. I'm not even making of anyone I'm just trying to tell you how a vagina works. I don't even have a vagina. Maybe try being less autistic and understanding human anatomy better. Either that or report to your nearest university so they can research your superdick capable of mutating human skin.

Look how fast the monkey defaulted to bullying. 0-60 like a sports car.

Elastic snaps back, until it eventually gets too stretched. Women who give birth are known for their cavernous vaginas and need to do kegels. Dicks are the same. A vagina doesn't stay as stretched, but if you think it doesn't stretch, there's a bridge in brooklyn with your name on it, great view, we can cut a sweet deal.

Something tells me her roast is stretched

Look how fast the monkey defaulted to bullying. 0-60 like a sports car.

Yeah after someone called me a loose roastie even though I'm a dude lul they hypocrisy is reallll up in here.

Women who give birth are known for their cavernous vaginas and need to do kegels.

I mean they're not. You're just making shit up at this point but okay let's continue.

A vagina doesn't stay as stretched, but if you think it doesn't stretch, there's a bridge in brooklyn with your name on it, great view, we can cut a sweet deal.

I'm not sure if you're capable of scrolling up to where I said "I'm not here to bully but when you say that a vagina isn't elastic that's just a poor understanding of anatomy." So basically I just stated they stretched because that's a part of what being elastic is all about but thanks for literally proving my point.

So to summarize this up into one sweet little package, you call me ..a dude.. a loose roastie (that would be bullying) after I haven't said anything other then a vagina is elastic (which you agreed with). Then you told me I'm the one now bullying since I responded harshly to someone bullying, and that apparently I don't think vaginas stretch when I literally said they're elastic in my first comment. 10/10 argument there man keep up the good work proud of you.

you people are so braindead, you will never learn. this shit is fucking hilarious

Its to easy sometimes

Labiaplasty

Labiaplasty (also known as labioplasty, labia minora reduction, and labial reduction) is a plastic surgery procedure for altering the labia minora (inner labia) and the labia majora (outer labia), the folds of skin surrounding the human vulva. There are two main categories of women seeking cosmetic genital surgery: those with congenital conditions such as intersex, and those with no underlying condition who experience physical discomfort or wish to alter the appearance of their genitals because they believe they do not fall within a normal range.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labiaplasty

Right I know what that is but you're still saying that too much dick can damage pussy lips (the one part your dick literally slides by) to the point in which reconstructive surgery is needed to fix it. I hope you all realize how dumb that thought process is. Pussy lips are not manipulated by your dicks. The only reason that surgery exists is basically for looks. Kind-of like how women prefer tall men, men prefer vaginas that don't have meaty lips. Idk why I'm even explaining this I feel like the autism that is this subreddit will still find some way to try and prove me wrong.

IT'S GENETIIIIIICS

LOL we really are no different

Who is that? I'd like to masturbate to her.

Marry Queen and that's a good idea.

LMAO at not having a vagina in 2018

EVERY TIME

Like clockwork

yaaas gurl!! Changing the world and smashing the patriarchy, one smug sarcastic comment and upboat/downboat at a time!! F E M P O W E R E D

don't forget strong and independent.

And nobody does shit, yet men are the oppressors and privileged.

You can't define incels only as virgins. People here are hateful and bitter. Incels are despicable because of their shit personnality, not because they are virgins.

While this comment is shit, the thought process is correct.

Incels are not miserable because they're virgins. They're miserable because they're starved of human intimacy and universally hated by women. Years of rejection and scorn from the opposite gender cultivates the bitterness and hate seen here. It's very easy to become hateful of women when they treat you like shit just for existing.

Maybe instead of becoming a worse person work on the shit personalities that got you denied and stop chasing women who are 10s when you're a fucking 4.

Stop being such a banana.

I cant deny my DNA

Just lol at incels chasing 10s. Most of us are sub 2 except for the dicks that post selfies here for attention

exactly, maybe go for a girl who is just as ugly. That's the point. Quit whining that hot women only like hot men when you don't go for ugly chicks. Aim lower. Personality wise too.

You miss the point then. All women are chasing Chads

No, they arent.

What about my personality made women call me ugly?

That it is how it works. I'm ugly, guys I know in person are very ugly. I'm in a relationship and plenty of the ugly ass dude's I know are in relationships. If they're not now they were in the past. My dad is a very ugly man. Explain how he had two children and is married now.

But, yeah your personality probably does make you uglier. You've never hung out with someone that you really enjoyed being around who was ugly as fuck when you first met but became more attractive because of their personality?

Plus, you guys try meeting women online too much. That's a big mistake. The online world is skewed. I have no issue with getting girls in real life. My personality is what wins them over.

Ugly girls can get more attractive guys to an extent. But, more often than not when I see girls in long term relationships the guy is a couple points below the girl. My girlfriend is atleast a 7 by society standards I'm definitely a 4. Most dude's I hang around are about a 4 or 5 and their girlfriends are 7 or 8s.

You guys just try to simplify everything. Dating isn't so simple. It's a lot of issues. Not to mention the fact you think you know women so well but yet you can't manage to date them. Maybe it's time to realize you don't know them. I'm an ugly guy telling you that it's possible for ugly guys to get girls. Why would you not listen to people who clearly know what they're talking about when you clearly do Not?

"Hey dude if you want to get a girl do x"

"No, man that's not gonna work girls don't like x they like y"

"But ive done x to get girls and that's what works has y ever worked for you?"

"No y has never worked for me"

"Okay so try x"

"Nope x doesn't work"

Plus, you guys try meeting women online too much.

hahaha

Post face.

https://m.imgur.com/a/raI6m

Can u see my acne good too? Included pic of me with my girlfriend too

Mogs me hard

I'm not lazy lol I have an active job lol I just eat shit. I'm definitely ugly. If you're denying that you're a liar lmao

I agree with most of your longer post/outlook. You really don't seem ugly genetically though, just fat. If you lost weight and ate clean to further eliminate facial bloat, you'd probably be a 6.

Idk man, it's not that I care about my own looks too much. I just look at myself realistically and see an ugly dude lol. I am working on the weight now. Maybe I'm uglier in person, idk.

You don't get to police what the word "incel" means, sorry.

Fucking Kek at this cope

Are you trying to speak english ?

破病殀寿

incels means virgin. dfaq are you on about?

You don’t get bullied for being virgins. Literally no one gives a shit you’re virgins. You’re all assholes, misogynistic, racist, and generally shitty humans, so we pick on you for that.

^

Oh racists too, want to give a few examples?

No need. Just browse the sub.

So none

Half that sub isn't white. Yeah and the racism against indians are usually from indians themselve.

Incel know no races.

Imagine being this high up on the horse and deciding what’s good and bad.

You mean exactly what you worthless assholes do? The only difference here is that you literally have NO worth.

You’re all assholes, misogynistic, racist, and generally shitty humans

Show me my misogyny and racism.

Every post made on this sub is misogyny

That includes your own?

I have never made a disparaging post against women

Neither have I. Still you're calling me an "asshole, misogynistic, racist, and generally shitty human".

I'll stipulate to "asshole" and "generally shitty human" but I want you to show me my misogyny and racism.

You support a violent, misogynistic, racist sub.

I'm contributing much less material support to this sub than e.g. /u/Board_Gaming. Is she misogynistic and racist, too?

So do you

I’m not here to support. I’m here to report every single post in hopes that this sub goes the way of r/incels.

By being here you're supporting the sub

lol, i love this sub but don't pretend there isn't a shitload of misogyny and racism. i found this after 10s

I don't pretend that. I'm saying it's untrue that we're all misogynistic and racist.

Then the same should apply that not all women, attractive or otherwise, fit into the single "Stacy" archetype incels love to project their self-loathing on.

Of course, never said anything different.

I, too, would like to be shown my misogyny and racism please /u/insultin_crayon.

Literally no one gives a shit you’re virgins

Except all of society

It's been pretty well established that "misogyny" is just a convenient excuse for you people, and what you're really after is indeed virgin shaming and harassment.

Pretty well established in your own hideous head

And if you want people to think of you differently, it's up to you to change that impression.

Nope, literally no one gives a shit if you're a virgin besides you. You're insecure about the fact that you're a virgin. So much so you join groups on line. That's why you feel like that's what people are picking on you for. It's your own lame ads insecurity about it.

It takes two seconds to google that virgin shaming is real.

Yes, it's real. But, what you guys don't understand is that the only people who genuinely care if someone is a virgin no one else respects. It's either 16 year olds or immature adults. If someone was genuinely making fun of someone for being a virgin at my age (21) they would get shamed for even giving a shit. That shit is so lame to care about.

Women hate virgins and don’t want to date them.

That's simply untrue. You guys get denied and shit and assume why. Like I said, I was 19 when I lost my virginity. I had no problem getting girls before then. My current girlfriend who I lost my virginity to had no issue with me being a virgin. My girlfriends friends have no issues with guys who are virgins. Making a big deal about being a virgin is what girls don't like.

It’s perfectly normal to lose your virginity at 19, it’s just one year above average. Also you said “I had no problems getting girls before that” bro you are a normie not a KHHV.

There was an OkCupid study in which 60-70% of women said that they wouldn’t date a male virgin.

It’s not like we go out with a tattoo on our forehead that says “I’m a virgin”. I’ve never been on a date like most people here. Do you really think I talk to girls about my virginity? Come on, I’m embarrassed.

I mean, according to you guys i shouldn't have even been able to lose it at all? So, I think 19 is pretty impressive. I'm 5'6", 170 lbs, solid 4/10, and I have a micropenis. Also, don't be shocked by this, I don't treat women like garbage.

I hate those surveys too. They're trash. That's exactly the point. They couldn't possibly know. So, if a girl really liked you and you revealed you were a virgin she's not gonna just dump you. I would say the girls I hang out with are still pretty young. All around 23. My girlfriends best friend is actually dating a guy right now who was a virgin when they first started dating and he's 22 and she's 23. Another one of her friends is a virgin and he's 23. No one makes fun of him for it.

I'm just trying to get you to see how little of a deal it is. It definitely isn't a deal breaker for most women. In fact, it can't be because they can't know. But, I know virgins. No one gives a shit. Honestly, I rarely even hear people talk about their virginity. Only time it comes up is if it's relevant to the conversation. It only becomes a big deal when you make it one. Thinking about it and being online blaming your looks and virginity for your virginity is only going to make you more hateful and have less confidence. Just a self fulfilling prophecy at this point.

I'm 5'6", 170 lbs, solid 4/10, and I have a micropenis.

God, hearing this makes me really sad. I really feel for you if you have a micropenis. I would have offed myself if I had one. I consider you a very lucky guy for being able to get into a relationship despite your unfortunate genetics. Nature is cruel.

I hate those surveys too. They're trash. That's exactly the point.

I'm just trying to get you to see how little of a deal it is. It definitely isn't a deal breaker for most women. In fact, it can't be because they can't know.

You see how it’s conflicting with the fact that I stated and you just call the study bullshit. Just because your personal experience doesn’t align with this it doesn’t make it any less valid.

Although there is no male equivalent to the female hymen it’s likely that a girl is going to notice that you are awkward when it comes to kissing / sex. Imagine cumming in thirty seconds. You can’t just fake experience.

Man, I feel sorry for you that you place such emphasis on penis size. I apparently have a smaller penis than you but a higher quality love life. Having a micropenis has honestly helped me in life a lot. I felt bad about myself for awhile, then realized how much it didn't matter. My life got a lot better.

Dawg, of course she's gonna know when you act all awkward. At the point she's chosen to kiss you and/or have sex with you she already likes you and you being a virgin wouldn't matter. I definitely remember cumming fast as fuck. My girlfriend was cool with it. She still is sometimes lmao as long as you don't see sex as something that begins and ends with penetration that doesn't matter.

I say the survey is bullshit not because it doesn't align with my personal experience, but because it's hypothetical. There are so many other factors surrounding that decision that the simple question "would you date a virgin" isn't enough. Look at those surveys. Under my penis size, weight, and looks what percentage of women would've instantly said no to me? Shit, I probably would've said I wouldn't date someone with a lot of qualities my girlfriend has. But, I met her. I liked her. That stuff didn't seem as big of a deal because so many other things were so great. That's wht those surveys are bullshit.

hahahahaah

You do realize that all people who aren't currently virgins..were once virgins 🤔(shocking I know.). Even 'Chad' had to start out as one..like wut even

Don’t be a fucking dumbass. Adult male virgins are hated.

If they are hated..then how did the ones that managed to get laid do it?

Yet here you fucking are.

Why the actual FUCK are you here LOL? You being here is LITERALLY fucking harassment you fucking trashcan.

Holy shit people like you who need to involve themselves in everything and invalidate others experiences trigger me, blocked.

I'm not shaming anyone for being a virgin lol I was a virgin until I was 19. I couldn't care less if someone was a virgin or not. Harassing? No. I just know you all pity yourselves too much. Just fix your personalities and quit being obsessed with sex. It's weird.

Well, if you taking the effort to come over here and harass people for being virgins, and then making a whole subreddit for the same purpose, is just in my head, then I must be pretty damn mentally ill.

But really, the alternative is just way more plausible.

I never harassed anyone for being a virgin. I am saying how little of a shit people give how the fuck would that make sense. People make subreddits making fun of how much you guys focus on being virgins and on much emphasis you put on it. How sad and angry it makes you to be a virgin is what people are making fun of. Not the fact that you are a virgin.

I never harassed anyone for being a virgin.

Just because you think your harassment is good and justified doesn't mean it's not harassment. I don't care how you personally evaluate your actions - you're too morally bankrupt to have any authority on the matter.

Literally no one gives a shit you’re virgins

All the anti-virgin spaces online say otherwise

All the generalizations, assumptions and acting like you fucking know us.

said while on a sub that generalizes and makes assumptions about women.

"all women want a chad" "women are sluts that hate virgins"

It sucks that people make generalizations and assumptions, I hate it, both sides hate it I think. If you talk to most women, or I guess just go to a woman filled sub (/r/TrollXChromosomes ) you'll see that the generalizations you're upset about aren't real. No girl friend I know wants a "chad," no one gives a fuck if you're a virgin. Sure, some people do, and it sucks, but they aren't good people in the first place.

How pathetic must you be to make this shit up just to try and justify shitting on mentally ill men? Holy fucking shit, you're actually human fucking trash. That is why you're so unhappy with the world and spend all your time obsessing over mentally ill people online.

Blocked by the way, don't need to read your toxic fucking garbage hatred.

Ohh no!

I'm not even an incel and you guys bully because you want someone easy to bully. Its pretty damn obvious. I used to browse things like blue pill but can to the realization that it was generally a sub to use an excuse to bully people. I'm not denying there's some toxic people on this subject, there are on every, but come on.

Exactly this. The worst part about it is that they won't admit that. Like c'mon guys, at least be honest.

I don't hate black people, I just hate those saggy-pantsed, basketball-playing, watermelon-eating thugocrats that just happen to be black.

I don't hate Jews, I just hate those big-nosed, gold-stealing, Christ killing ratmen that just happen to be Jewish.

Yeah, internet behaviour on a sub made specifically to vent about romantic frustrations reflects our real life behaviour.

You must be mentally retarded

Isn't it funny how slut shaming women is like the mortal sin that can get you fired from your job and socially orstrasized but virgin shaming men is not only accepted but encouraged by society. Why don't liberals and feminists ever fight against virgin shaming? 🤔

There are 2 types of women who lurk here:

  1. Feminists who want to shame and feel superior

  2. Attention whores who want to be the Khaleesi of incels bc they’ll never be Stacy

I take it you're a nice guy?

Type 1 identified

Khaleesi

I've had virgin shaming happen IN GROUP THERAPY. DURING FUCKING GROUP THERAPY.

"just get therapy" shit is such bad advice

It's because those groups you mentioned (especially feminists) are gynocentric

Ask yourself the age old question: does it affect women?

Theres your answer.

I'm for slut shaming everyone and against virgin shaming everyone, in fact I endorse virginity for everyone

Lol everyone hates everyone else on the internet... it's a dystopian community of insecure assholes

THIS but on Facebook it's the worst because it's like all guys and girls who went to college to (among other things) increase their SMV, so they treat low SMV males like shit.

Smv?

sexual market value

are you fucking serious? Dude that's some really well done bullshit you're cooking there

Just get off fb then... it's old and boring anyway

Pretty sure the bullying happens cus you guys say some of the most disgusting shit I’ve ever seen. Not cus you’re virgins

No bully thinks he's a bully.

I don’t know what’s sadder: being an incel and complaining online or being obsessed with incels and spending all your time trolling them online.

Either way, both don’t have a life.

Nah you guys are hilarious. I look down on you guys to practice being more of an evil fuck

Yeah we’re Pathetic. But the fact that you’re on this sub obsessing over us makes you even more pathetic :)

I am at the lowest point of my life right now. But seeing your posts makes me feel better. Sometimes I relapse and try to be nice, but your responses remind me that humans, do in fact, does not deserve to exist

You're an idiot. I think I've got it now; the cucktears posters are here because their obsession stems from insecurity.

They're afraid to become like us so they try to make us disappear or laugh at us, to try and avoid becoming us. Insecurities breed weird behaviours.

Don't worry, normies. Incels in denial will always be in denial until they personally get brutally blackpilled by a chad who mogs them hard, and retarded bluepilled normans, well they'll always live in their little fantasy world.

I'm gay dude, I can just go on grindr. And can't I just be cruel for the sakes of cruelty? It's much more fun than taking it and then act bitter. The fact that you try to rationalize my behavior as insecurity speaks more about your desire to think that everyone is like you.

I've got my answer then. You are gay.

That is all.

So being gay is a bad thing? I don't understand how that makes me insecure?

You are a homosexual. That is your insecurity.

I've never met a well adjusted and mentally wholesome LGBTQ person, ever. That's simply because homosexuality and other sexual deviances stem from deep psychological troubles.

It goes without saying that being gay, you can't possibly not be insecure.

Huh incels are really as despicable as they come. And here they try to guilt me for being a bad person.

I'm not guilting you or saying you're a bad person. I pity you homosexuals, much like the Inceltears posters pity us Incels, except they bully us on top of that.

I won't bully the mentally ill because I know it feels bad. I'm just stating a fact.

Now the very PC Inceltears will lose their shit over this.

Ok, I'll try not to be offended that you called an entire group of people mentally ill( mostly because I'm insane myself). I disagree with your world view, but can still hope that you live well.

Yeah no wonder you're mentally ill, you're gay.

You hope that I live? What does that say about the rest of the Inceltears members?

Nothing since I don't represent them. However it does show that I wished goodwill on somebody who had insulted me, and a group the I belong to. Perhaps my response wasn't clear enough

Oop looks like we have a gay master here telling everyone why the gays are gay. 👍

Go post this on Inceltears I promise you'll get lots of karma. Anything as long as you go away.

I don't make posts over there. I rarely even poke my head in there.

But you do realize how ironic your schtick is, or do you try to keep the facade of being completely unaware of your own pathetic misery?

I'm not avoiding my own misery is the thing? "I'm probably at the lowest point in my life right now". Call me out if you want, but at least do it proper

But don't you think you're adding to your own misery by being miserable to others? How can you look yourself in the mirror?

It teaches me not to be kind anymore. Sure it's necessary, but never again will I let my heart get the better of me. Maybe I shouldn't do it here on this sub. You guys kind of deserve it, but there's better places to try

So you're an incel in denial? Welcome. Ldary

Thanks but I'm gay. Could always be a volcel I guess. But guys are so horny though is the thing.

Prison gay because you can't get women. That's pathetic.

I'm not in prison? And tfw girls seem to have crushes on me but not her qt guy friends. Why do I live such a sad life?

I'd agree, but it's just such a curious confidence that those people always go after ugly/short/unattractive jerks instead of any kind of jerk

I really doubt they'd spend half the effort on humiliating these virgins if they weren't ugly

It's almost like they judge people based on appearance. Ugly = mean spirited, evil, bad personality. Good looking = great personality.

I have never seen what any one of you look like.

LOL damn.

Look how normies are now trying to defend themselves on this post.

Stop thinking people give a Shit about you being a Virgin? They dont.

That's why you spend all your free time obsessing over virgins on their sub, normieshit?

lol people do, welcome to the real world.

Sexperience is an expectation for most people of/from their counterparts.

yeah cuz you know so much about the real world tucked in your mom's basement.

I know enough to know I always have more to learn, and I would love to have a basement to hide from the world (especially light), but it's not possible in the region where I'm situated.

And wtf stays with their mom ? Do you ? I invest in the future not the past.

It builds character. The last thing any of you should be is a fucking snowflake

Biggest bullshit I've ever heard.

You think Chad gives a shit about feminists?

I don't want to be chad

And thats why they want him. They cant touch him no matter what they try.

So you guys are mentally ill then?

No shit. I was going to say the same thing. If you're mentally ill that's ok but for the love of christ just get some help. Seriously. Meds and therapy is the only thing that's helped me.

psych. meds. don't. help. society.

every. school. shooter. was. on. loads. of. meds. and. talk. therapy.

Suicide. is. increasing. despite. more. psych. meds. and. more. therapy.

Ok. I don't know anything about school shooters. A lot of people aren't fully compliant with their meds. A lot aren't on the right combination. There's a bunch of factors to consider. But that doesn't mean they're awful 100% in every case. It took a long time figuring out what works well for me but once we did shit started looking up.

There’s quite a few potential school shooters in here.

Lul

correlation. does. not. indicate. causation.

therapy. works. try. it. some. time.

if it worked, it would work on a societal level

what do you mean, "on a societal level"? everybody has to do their own work in therapy and it is Not easy or a quick fix but it's a damn sight more effective than doing Nothing. also there are tons of different types of mental health therapies, some more effective than others. what works for one person might not work for another. and not all therapy is talk therapy. there is stuff like TMS, EMDR and neurofeedback these days that are seeing some impressive results.

duuuuuuuude you have no idea how much therapy and psych drugs I've tried, I've even done TMS, EMDR and neurofeedback.

that has no basis in science

what has no basis in science? the treatments i mention below are literally developed by neuroscientists who would probably be surprised to learn that what they are doing is not science.

therapy working has no basis in science. psychology is not a hard science. you're being intentionally vague because you have no idea what you're talking about.

i'm not talking about psychology, i'm talking about psychiatry and neuroscience

then you're painting a strawman. i see the word 'therapy'.

therapy is not just talk therapy/counselling/psychology

therapy is not just therapy

maybe the next time you start an argument on the internet, bring an adult so you don't look like a fucking idiot

i was just trying to be informative but i can't argue with this level of ignorance

it is ironic that you would use the word "narcissist", a concept entirely based in psychology

so you're 16, that's what this is about, your hormones

wtf, you're not even making sense dude

instead of admitting you were wrong, you went with some petty shit about the etymology of the word narcissist, which is not a concept entirely based in psychology, which you can find by googling the actual etymology of the word that the name was borrowed from a story from ancient greece about a guy who wouldn't stop staring at his own reflection, ie the concept is as old as humanity. which is why i know you're just 16 on some hormonal rage and not an actual adult trying to discuss things.

lol, thanks for mansplaining Narcissus to me but i was referring to the use of the term narcissist in psychology, notably popularised by Freud. you are embarrassing yourself mate.

mansplaining lol. are you not getting enough dick or something kid?

unfortunately i get condescended to by men no matter how much dick i'm getting

it's not your gender, you're just an idiot and you don't deserve respect

everybody deserves respect you fucking wank

pm tits or vagine

the rise

Like you clearly are very ignorant about therapy and how psychology works. The reason they are a bunch of quacks to anyone paying attention is because they take the results of one or two studies and immediately start implementing treatments. In real medicine, you have to do loads of studies and peer review before you're allowed to start using it on the general population. Linking random articles about CBT and other shit makes you look like a 16 year old mouth breather.

the "random article on CBT" was a large-scale meta-analysis so it was compiling the results of many studies on CBT. funny that you claim to know so much about psychology yet also claim it is a load of shit! psychiatry is a crapshoot because of how little we still know about the brain. with advances in imaging there is more and more evidence coming out about how different therapies actually work. and yeah some therapies will probably be revealed to be a waste of time, but that's progress for ya

It's a crapshoot because it's not science and even a broken clock is right twice a day.

you keep saying that, as if science is some pre-established unchangeable monolith. you might want to brush up on what science actually means.

Science is a pre-established monolith. Being a scientist is an accreditation by an organization. There are rules and regulations. YOU MIGHT WANT TO BRUSH UP ON WHAT SCIENCE ACTUALLY MEANS

hahahahaa. you are correct about accreditation (which, shock horror, clinical psychologists have to attain), but no. science is a process. ask any scientist. seriously.

a process with rules and regulations, established by a SHOCKING pre-established monolith.

you do realise i'm talking about scientific knowledge, not the scientific establishment??

you're totally a kid and it's obvious because you're trying so hard to twist your own words around.

would love to know where i have contradicted myself? i'm just trying to explain things simply because your comprehension skills appear to be lacking. google "the scientific method for dummies" or something.

you're embarrassingly trying to change what you previously meant

er, no. i have not tried to change anything. it seems like you are the one whose comprehension is lacking.

i did. and it didn't work?

how many different kinds of therapy did you try? it's not a one-size-fits-all thing. it can be a frustratingly long process to find a therapy that works for you - same with psych meds unfortunately

money is an issue now. i can't go to therapy.

that sucks. i hope you find a solution!

Cope

Is that a problem?

Goteem

If you're wallowing in it, celebrating it instead of letting anyone help, or trying helping yourself? What do you think?

Fuck off.

You guys seem to think you're so unique with your problems. And maybe you are! Everyone of us is.

But all you see is the facade others put up, and you choose to think it's all there is.

While in reality, everyone is doing their best to fight existential dread every day, and fighting for that sanity amidst madness quite often.

What I'm saying is that people don't want to change you because they're outsiders. Many of us had or have the same difficulties you have, and er fight them every moment of our lives to make it feel better.

And we see that many of you could do the same if you just stopped accepting it as done deal that "it's over" because of whatever reason you chose to choose

I'm not reading that lol

As you're not doing a lot of things

Ouch such a meanie :(

You should read it. awe300 is saying we're all the same and just want people to do well.

If you'd rather watch videos, this youtube channel is pretty great at humanizing others: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=petg12b36UA

No, I think acknowledging it is quite healthy.

Good.

Being mentally ill IS a problem, yes.

Of course it is, But people with mental illness shouldn't be bullied.

Spend some time on some of the posts in this subreddit. A lot of these “incels” are nothing more than angry, homophobic, anti-Semitic, degenerates that will whine about being fragile and emotionally damaged then in the same breath turn around and insult everyone not like them (from behind a computer screen, of course). Adult babies with mommy and daddy issues that try, with a limp wrist, to lash out at people who call them out on their stupid bullshit.

That's a lot of projection.

That’s real talk, bruh

"bruh" I can't take you seriously.

That’s another problem on here.

No one here wants your help.

How do you know?

People would make threads asking for your help. No one does that so it's kind of obvious. Go help the people at foreveralone out.

This whole subreddit is one big ol cry for help lol

No one here wants your help. Are you brain dead as well? Go help foreveralone out if you really have the need to make yourself feel better.

What’s up with foreveralone? Why are you bringing them up? Is that another subreddit with the same sort of theme as this one?

You can go check it out and help them guys out. We don't want your kind here.

Well that’s sort of a problem because it doesn’t really matter what you want.

That's true, You come here and try to "help" when no one asks or wants it.

I never said I came here to help anybody. I’m here to call these “incels” out on their stupid bullshit.

t. incel in denial.

Women can't take you seriously which is why you'll never get laid

Triggered normie

False

I stand corrected. Some of them aren’t adults yet.

Wait, telling someone they are responsible for their personality and actions around other people is bullying? Well shit, I thought SJWs were sensitive, but damn, that takes the cake.

is that what you guys do though?

posting in IT and generlizing incels isn't "helping" its actually making it worse.

Incels: All women only want Chad, are roastie whores, are basically evil

Also Incels: Don't generalize us

Enough of this pussy griping about generalizations, that's what people do, they generalize. You're all going to be judged based on the stereotypical members of your group, just like every other group in the word. Suck it up.

which is stupid.

Get used to it. Every group generalize the members of other groups. Incels do it IT does it, everyone does it. So it's a pointless gripe to make.

Get used to it. Every group generalize the members of other groups

so you're a sheep who follows others?

Incels do it IT does it

we don't have 50+ members who search this sub for hours just to find something stupid and misogynistic to post it.

So it's a pointless gripe to make.

really? i don't see how affecting others in this sub is pointless. besides, incels are diverse, why should the rest be grouped up with just one post? its plain stupid.

There irony that you don't see all those statements are applicable to the shit you rambled on about here. And yes, I do see members of this sub doing the exact shit in IT all the time. Only reason you don't is that the posts are always removed.

You yourself were lurking there earlier today. Not that anyone would know, since you're shadowbanned. Only reason I'm aware is your responses set off my notifications before they were removed. If they stopped erasing incel nonsense, you dopes would have IT just as overrun.

11,543 (alot of them are not even incels) vs 50k+ ''overrun'' lol

and yes, I do see members of this sub doing the exact shit in IT all the time. Only reason you don't is that the posts are always removed.

yeah, just like most of reddits.

You yourself were lurking there earlier today. Not that anyone would know, since you're shadowbanned. Only reason I'm aware is your responses set off my notifications before they were removed. If they stopped erasing incel nonsense, you dopes would have IT just as overrun.

proves my generalization point.

What the hell is IT anyways? I don't think I've ever posted there / even know what that is (assuming it's a subreddit or forum)

inceltears.

its not only directed to you though.

You aren’t being shit on for being virgins, you’re being shit on for subscribing to reasonable and unhinged bullshit

Amazing how they miss this very basic and obvious truth.

And amazing how you keep missing the amounts of asshats from IT that come in here to shit on people.

I'm not sure what you're suggesting that I'm missing, also not sure what you mean by IT. Happy to listen and hear your point of view.

Also, any idea why can't I downvote comments in this sub?

IT = Inceltears (which is what this post is talking about). A sub originally made for making fun of the most extreme incels. However, since then it has turned into militant hate of anyone who employs the label no matter what beliefs they hold.

Nowadays, users from there often come in here shitting on incels like the ones I mentioned, who aren't hateful, for simple shits and giggles, which is why the user you replied to is, in my opinion, full of shit.

Nobody thinks incels are rapists because incels can't have sex with anyone at all whether it's consensual or not.

Shove it.

Lol go have sex

Wait

Read the flair jackass ;)

go have sex

Will do :D

Ah you're an autistic.

And your flailing attempts at trolling remind me of a child.

Yeah all the kids these days call people autistic online, I'm down with the kids dawg

Cool. Shove it.

you know what's unreasonable and unhinged? thinking that 80% of men are uglier than the average guy. that's what women think, and i don't see you harassing and berating women for thinking that way.

You're an idiot

If you can’t cite a source to back up that “80% of guys...” claim, then you’re proving me right. The incels who latch onto dumb hyperbolic shit are the ones who invite the derision from outside the sub, because you’re the ones that make all of you seem like stupid extremists - which makes it tougher on the incels who ARENT on board with that dumb shit.

Knock it off with the “that’s what women think”, your anecdotal (or just made up) bullshit that you spew to support your “argument”, is stupid and doesn’t help at all.

I mean, good on you for actually providing a source (most incels here wouldn’t, they’d just reeeee until the subject was dropped), but you do realize that “80% of women on OkCupid” or “80% of women included in this study” is NOT the same as “80% of all women period”, right?

And that link you provided essentially states that more attractive people garner more attention… no shit. I don’t think anyone’s arguing that. My point is that latching on to hyperbole like “80% of all women” is silly and an invitation to take you even less seriously.

Do you have another study with as many people as OKcupid? I didn't think so. You're not gonna find someone able to replicate it. The sheer sample size. To dismiss such a large sample size is absolutely retarded. The fact is you were proven wrong today. You lost, it doesn't mean you have to like it.

Pay attention, genius - I don't need to supply a sample size because my point (and try to pay attention this time) is: "that latching on to hyperbole like “80% of all women” is silly and an invitation to take you even less seriously" - a point which still stands.

And I "lost"? haha okay, I don't consider discussion a win/lose contest, but if you're the sort of person with an ego that fragile and you need to win - then, sure dude, you got it.

if you don't think that other women are different just lol

Insinuating now that ALL women are like that? So, doubling down on that dumb hyperbole huh? The ol Donald Trump school of arguing a point.

It's so dumb, I almost admire it.

lol at thinking other women are different. no amount of evidence will ever convince you that the world is not the story you were told.

HAAAAAAAAA - yeah, I'm the one operating under a "story" here, jesus thats rich

i've got an observation of the actions of** millions of women**, and you've got.... oh that's right, nothing at all. yes, you're operating under a story, and i'm operating under the observable universe.

haha sure you are, champ

wow. another blackpill defeated by overwhelming logic and evidence.

haha again, dude, if you just NEED the win - then go for it.

brilliant. just brilliant. *bows*

Online dating as a source? Fucking go outside and speak to humans. Do THINGS with PEOPLE and then you guys wpuld see they don't all deserve hell... jist most of em

the purpose of posting that link is not to give you information about online dating. it's to inform you just how differently men and women view eachother.

As others have stated, you aren't being bullied for being ugly, uncharismatic, or a virgin. You're simply being rightfully called out for using those things the fuel your anger and contributing to the shitstorm you call "Inceldom". r/mgtow has their shit together, and they're all virgins too. If you don't like a problem, ignore it. Don't be an asshole about it.

r/mgtow has their shit together

This is a joke, right?

no. people who don't want women in their lives are a joke?

No, the "mtgow" community is a joke. For people who don't like women, they sure spend a lot of time harassing them, and blaming them for all of the world's problems.

lol r/mgtow is just as “misogynistic” and “toxic” or whatever as this sub. they’re basically incelslight. the only reason they aren’t constantly brigaded is because their mods actually ban people

shut up

r/mgtow has their shit together, and they're all virgins too.

Most of MGTOW are divorced BetaBux men, not virgins. They ban the ones who mess with their sub, that's the difference.

I realize that this sub is an echo-chamber, and no one wants to hear this, but as a fat guy who was a virgin until almost 19, I am giving you some real advice here.

No one is bullying you for being a virgin.

People are terrified of the way you are blaming your own personal problems on other people, and society at large.

It's as if you think you are entitled to have another person of your choosing be forced to have sex with you, because that's what you want.

virgin is used as an insult towards guys

but you are right, just dont be fat and dont be a loser and its not rocket science to have sex. people on here would rather do nothing and blame others though

virgin is used as an insult towards guys

Virgin is used as an insult towards women as well. Don't be such a snowflake.

just dont be fat

I'm fat AF and have an extremely hot girlfriend, which is the same for many fat people of both sexes. Nothing wrong with being fat, other than health issues.

dont be a loser

Nailed it.

people on here would rather do nothing and blame others though

Nailed it again.

For some reason also find fat guys attractive. My husband is fat and I happen to think he's hot AF.

Virgin women are sought after, being a male virgin after 20 years old means there's something wrong with you.

winners are by definition not losers, so

what the fuck does "don't be a loser" mean in the context of telling someone how to be a winner?

Most people here blame their personal problems on their looks. Some blame them on women/society, but these are copes. It's over and the only hope for a lot of these people to end their suffering is to kill themselves.

Just stop caring and realize nothing matters

That's one possibility if you can do it. Sometimes it's biologically impossible for a mind to do that though.

I'll admit that's true, but if one can it does make things much much easier to deal with. I do appreciate not being barked at with demands to kill myself or the simple angry statement that I'm wrong because it's not the same opinion you share. I hope you have a very pleasant week for that.

what is wrong with you?

was a virgin until almost 19

WOOAAH

Yeah that's around when I figured out that my problems were my own fault, and started working on improving myself as a person.

When are you going to start?

lmao you weren't even 19, you fucking fat piece of shit. That's extremely early and young. The average age to lose it is 17. Please fuck off, your experience isn't relatable and you cannot understand.

Also, fatasses are cancer.

Your personality and attitude are why you will die alone, not your looks or "feminism".

Please just kill yourself and not a bunch of innocent people.

lol what's your problem, Jabba? Everyone should tell fatasses to fuck off. They're disgusting pigs that need to lose weight or be eradicated. Can't stand the site of them.

I seriously doubt that I'm the one with the problem here...

You do have a problem. It's called diabetes.

I bet you haven't seen a number on a scale that didn't start with 1, 2, or 3 in the last six years.

you fucking fat piece of shit

And you're saying feminists are the ones bullying people...?

Not that they never do, but really?

Fatasses must be bullied for the good of the earth.

So must incels then.

username checks out

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dude, every problem has a societal component, get your neoliberal ass out of here.

dude, every personal problem spread out among multiple individuals has a societal component, get your neoliberal ass out of here.

So you are suggesting that, instead of working to improve our own personal problems, we should just blame society for everything?

I haven't take my garbage out in six weeks and I crashed my car drunk last night. Thanks, society.

neoliberal

hahahaha nailed me

if there was a problem with drunks organizing themselves in society I wouldn't tell them they had a fault of willpower, I'd figure out what the fuck is wrong with society.

you got laid while being fat

"improve personal problems" i tried to imprive every aspect. still doesn't work.

Try harder, start with the way you view the world. The fact that you are here complaining shows that you have not yet succeeded in improving yourself very much.

This is a sub for guys who followed all of the bullshit advice about self improvement only to realize, after years of beating themselves up, that they're actually just ugly and it's not their fault at all.

What people are terrified of is admitting that what they've been told about genders, relationships, and sex are lies.

What is the truth then?

That's me you're talking about!

We already know.

Good, just establishing my dominance here.

Tits or gtfo

You like man tits, huh? Is that why you're so angry? You're oppressing yourself ?

A white knight, really jogs the noggin.

Lol, anybody can be anything on the internet.

Nice try (((BeyondEarthly))) but your Jewish tricks don't work on me.

Huzzah!

This comment section is a garbage dump. Naturally, because the people who would be triggered by this are or should be garbage.

If you constitute "stop lying in a pile of people dragging you down" ad bullying.. You might be the one doing the dragging down

The only one who gives a shit about you being a virgin is yourself.

This "community" is sometimes ridiculed because many of its members are absolute assholes that have brought themselves to think that absolute assholes is all they can be, and hate anyone that isn't like them, or wants to stop being like them.

It's like a cult almost. The mantra being

"we're assholes. But everyone else is even worse, because they hate us for being assholes"

Tbh I’ve been lurking, and most of these dudes seem pretty chill and just realize that it’s over for them. Which in some cases is true.

It's certainly over if you accept it to be over and never try again. And the best way to do that is wallowing on self hate and pity in a community of like-minded people who never want to strive to better themselves in any way.

I get it, life is shit for many of you. But it's not like we're living in a paradise where you get what you want because you want it. You have to grab life by its balls and make it do what you want, because no one else will do that for you.

It's just this one try we all have.

Nah, some of these dudes have tried everything, and got the same results. Reality is, there is just no hope for some people.

Bullshit. You've tried everything when your time is over

Your time is over when you come out the womb looking like Quasimodo.

Your genes come from someone. And that someone obviously procreated

That logic doesn't apply here. Two beatiful people can create an ugly child, and two ugly people can create beautiful child

If two ugly people can create a child- you can still have sex while being ugly

That was possible for previous generations... They haven't been exposed to ideals trough media. We've been overly desensitized so we are hardly attracted below 5. I haven't seen more than a few ugly young couples in my entire life, also not a lot of averages, just bunch of hot people together

That's called confirmation bias.

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Yes, this is exactly what I mean. Through all your ancestors, the likelihood of one being ugly as fuck is pretty high, and yet here you are.

All of my ancestors never had to deal with online dating. Women nowadays have hundreds of Chads messaging them every night asking them out on a date.

Lol. Yeah, they never had society. They never took "hot" guy instead of he social shut ins.

If anything, online dating has made it easier for absolute hermits to date.

This is sub is not about personality.

The only one who gives a shit about you being a virgin is yourself.

Yeaaah sure

You can't see if someone is a virgin. Especially not in men.

Which would mean people hate us what is seen, aka our ugly faces.

Also, once a woman finds out a man is a virgin, instantly her opinion of them will go down

Haha have you actually asked a woman this? It sounds like you're trying to find excuses for other behavior. If anyone does think less of you for being a virgin, man or woman, they are an asshole, and nothing more.

Then I guess you're alluding that most women are assholes, because yes girls don't like virgins

If you'd like to generalize the entire female population, then sure. I hope you come to realize that that is just not the case, and the only one holding someone's virginity against them is themselves.

The good old "the only people shaming virgins are themselves" meme. Peoples insecurities and resentment come from somewhere, you know that right? It doesn't just pop out of thin air. Why would virgins purposefully shame themselves if they hate said shaming so much? Why do people like you feel the need to question and invalidate people's experiences so much?

You could simply say "hey that sucks man" and move on, but nah you gotta go on a forum for lonely guys and tell them it's all in their head.

Hey, sorry for questioning and invalidating your experiences. It really sucks that you have been made to feel that way by other people. It has not been my experience and I guess I am just trying to say that it doesn't have to be yours. I hope someday you are around better people that don't judge you for factors that are out of your control.

There are some actual bullies who show up just to be horrible and tell subscribers how "pathetic" they are. These bullies are not the feminists, however.

The bullies are not the feminists. Byt the feminists are bullies.

What is Byt?

You'll have to figure that out on your own. Or die trying :P

Challenge accepted. begins charging the thinking cap

The feminists tend to have plausible deniability

I think its more of an irrational hatred of women is why peoplr hate you. But that's just my 2 cents.

If you say that men only care about looks, you're just stating a fact. If you say that women only care about looks, you hate women.

Checks out bro.

This right here is so retarded

agreed

No, he's talking about you. It's not a fact.

are you ok?

If you say that men only care about looks, you're just stating a fact.

This is wrong. It's not a fact.

stop wearing makeup

u mad bro?

Not really. It's mostly just funny how pathetic you are.

is this like your first day talking shit. i bet kids throw trash at you.

The whole "New posts show up first" doesn't seem to be working, mods, as these faggots are being upvoted for their bullshit.

The whole "new posts show up first" system doesn't seem to be working, mods, as these faggots are being upvoted for their bullshit on a consistent basis.

Lol go have sex

Wait

Its quite honestly your own fault. Not that you are a virgin, but that you are objectively a shitty person who has done nothing to fix themselves, and if you have you most likely regressed because here you are reading my post back in this community.

Cut out the toxic shit in this community and you will be 150% better off or dont and continue to blame society.

Thanks

Take what you're saying and apply it towards feminism, and I 100% agree with this logic.

Wow, victim blaming much? I bet you think all girls who are raped deserved it too for what they were wearing.

The fact that you think you're a victim is a big part of your problem.

Your sick.

You are a victim, but only of yourself. Good luck.

who has done nothing to fix themselves,

I didn't need to fix myself. I was an outgoing, happy, friendly child. I wanted to be friends with everyone, but they shunned me. They picked on me, bullied me, because they saw me as being beneath them. I wasn't even human in their eyes.

How fucking dare you tell me to fix myself? I am the way I am today, not because of my personality, mental illness, misogyny, or whatever excuse normies try to come up with to excuse their shitty behavior. I am this way because of you. Because of bullies like you and everyone on IT.

You treat me like dirt all my life, and then you complain when I've had enough? Fuck you.

Sorry I'm not reading your tantrum excuse for why you hate society.

I get the feeling you don't read much at all.

This is a popular post

Yeah no, it's the fact that you people are toxic and shitty and awful. No one cares that you're virgins

r/braincels: women should be treated like property, have no work rights and be bound to men financially. This will ensure us men have a steady supply of pussy

Normies/Chads/Stacies/Non-spastics: that's really disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourselves. No wonder you are all alone

r/braincels: FUCKING BULLIES EVERYWHERE MAN!!!

Show me the car fax

leave. them. ALONE. It is so simple. U fucks ruined r/incels and now you're here. I read their stuff and I don't comment. Fucking loser.

The people who ruined r/incels were the people saying that rape should be legal. Who’s the real loser?

yes. they are pathetic, ugly, losers. let them be. they are funny

Never said they were ugly

I did. retard.

Leave. Them. ALONE

Are you white knighting a bunch of rape apologists and creepy virgins? Fucking hell dude, this didn't impress a single person

Nah you guys are hilarious. I look down on you guys to practice being more of an evil fuck

It teaches me not to be kind anymore. Sure it's necessary, but never again will I let my heart get the better of me. Maybe I shouldn't do it here on this sub. You guys kind of deserve it, but there's better places to try

That's why you spend all your free time obsessing over virgins on their sub, normieshit?

lol people do, welcome to the real world.

Sexperience is an expectation for most people of/from their counterparts.

You guys seem to think you're so unique with your problems. And maybe you are! Everyone of us is.

But all you see is the facade others put up, and you choose to think it's all there is.

While in reality, everyone is doing their best to fight existential dread every day, and fighting for that sanity amidst madness quite often.

What I'm saying is that people don't want to change you because they're outsiders. Many of us had or have the same difficulties you have, and er fight them every moment of our lives to make it feel better.

And we see that many of you could do the same if you just stopped accepting it as done deal that "it's over" because of whatever reason you chose to choose

Being mentally ill IS a problem, yes.

Well that’s sort of a problem because it doesn’t really matter what you want.

I'm not in prison? And tfw girls seem to have crushes on me but not her qt guy friends. Why do I live such a sad life?

That it is how it works. I'm ugly, guys I know in person are very ugly. I'm in a relationship and plenty of the ugly ass dude's I know are in relationships. If they're not now they were in the past. My dad is a very ugly man. Explain how he had two children and is married now.

But, yeah your personality probably does make you uglier. You've never hung out with someone that you really enjoyed being around who was ugly as fuck when you first met but became more attractive because of their personality?

Plus, you guys try meeting women online too much. That's a big mistake. The online world is skewed. I have no issue with getting girls in real life. My personality is what wins them over.

Ugly girls can get more attractive guys to an extent. But, more often than not when I see girls in long term relationships the guy is a couple points below the girl. My girlfriend is atleast a 7 by society standards I'm definitely a 4. Most dude's I hang around are about a 4 or 5 and their girlfriends are 7 or 8s.

You guys just try to simplify everything. Dating isn't so simple. It's a lot of issues. Not to mention the fact you think you know women so well but yet you can't manage to date them. Maybe it's time to realize you don't know them. I'm an ugly guy telling you that it's possible for ugly guys to get girls. Why would you not listen to people who clearly know what they're talking about when you clearly do Not?

"Hey dude if you want to get a girl do x"

"No, man that's not gonna work girls don't like x they like y"

"But ive done x to get girls and that's what works has y ever worked for you?"

"No y has never worked for me"

"Okay so try x"

"Nope x doesn't work"

haha again, dude, if you just NEED the win - then go for it.

brilliant. just brilliant. *bows*

yeah cuz you know so much about the real world tucked in your mom's basement.

username checks out

I get the feeling you don't read much at all.

Show me the car fax

leave. them. ALONE. It is so simple. U fucks ruined r/incels and now you're here. I read their stuff and I don't comment. Fucking loser.