And nobody cared if I killed myself, just lol tbh.

I asked why my mother is still working part time even though she is retired already.

She said: "that we survive"

Just lol tbh, just flush all subhumans from this world and its over.

I'd care if you rope, if only to canonize you as a saint

Off topic question do you happen to like the book Mr.Mercedes?

Oh then why the name?

You incels tell each other to kill yourselves more than anyone else. You even made up a bunch of memes about it and the suicide hotline sticky is full of incels talking about how suicide is okay.

You just hope you can make someone feel bad. I wonder if it works.

Incels tell each other there is no shame in suicide so they don't feel guilty for wanting to end the pain. Normies just don't like us and want us to die.

So encouraging suicide is okay when they do it in a nice way?

yes obviously?

Where's the confusion? Normies not wanting us around isn't a good reason to kill ourselves. Having unending despair is much more understandable. We know how terrible this life feels like, why would we want that for anybody else? Unfortunately suicide seems to be the only real option that isn't just delusion or distraction.

I fundamentally disagree with your last sentence, so that’s why I don’t see much difference between the two versions of encouraging suicide.

normalizing and justifying the suicidality seems like it could help people over the edge at least as much as bullying and I think pushing people over the edge is wrong.

It’s better to, imo, just not try to talk people into killing themselves at all.

It seems to ke that the most relentless discouragement and suicide normalization is between incels.

I know you all have a sense of comaraderie and kinship, and that there's no malice between you; nonetheless you constantly validate each other's fears, actively mock anyone showing a glimmer of hope or doubting the "blackpill," and give each other complexes over every tiny physical flaw by shoving pictures of male models at each other.

IT posters are mean and rude, but I think they're a scapegoat; I don't think they're the real danger.

We deserve it for being mad and resentful. We should just accept our situation and have no complaints. But don't kill yourself to alleviate the pain either, that's wrong.

It's perfectly normal to go through life without so much as a girl holding your hand! Besides you deserve it for smelling like a mysogonist.

I report each and every normie brigader which is against reddit rules but I notice nothing is done

“I told my shrink I was considering suicide so he said I’d have to start paying in advance.” -Rodney Dangerfield

People on reddit are sad sacks of shit that's why. Everyone normal person I know except one guy knows about reddit, and he only posts on the cars and Honda forums.

You guys put each other down more than anyone else

And you keep coming here. Why do you care again?

Don't answer, it's a rhetorical question more than anything.

Because they're cruel people who need a cultural context to direct their cruelty, which allows them to lie to themselves and others about their basic nature.

They can be cruel and then explain it away with of all things, a cruel taunt. It's basic low-level sadism. Nothing more. Basic bitches and empty lives (at least we focus on ourselves) focusing on others so they don't have to see what they live with.

I did say that was a rhetorical question. I'm pretty aware to the reason why they come.

It's facisnating to see if any of you will gain some sense eventually

Define "some sense"? If you're talking about those who are suffering from mental problems then it's very cruel metaphor. If you're talking about bittern, burnt-out people with negative experiences permeating their lives, then again, you're being very cruel. But why do you care? Virtue signal some more.

I had to pressure your mod to put up that sticky thread for the suicide prevention numbers.

Look at you, fighting imaginary injustice in a cyber space for virgins, instead of impacting a meaningful change.

Took me two minutes. I don't know about you, but my life doesn't revolve around Reddit.

The fact that you had to respond to that and come up with a shitty, snarky retort suggests otherwise.

The fact that you felt the need to say that suggests that you actually believe me but don't want me to know

(See how stupid that argument is)

No, the only thing I see is the famous female sense of humour but whatever.

I'm a lady?

Hmm, that's a pretty bad excuse.

black friends calling each other nigga vs maliciously calling a black guy a nigger out of spite

I made that comment a month ago

ok

Oh then why the name?

No rush.

Thank you kindly :)

Are you trying to extract pity from me? People wouldn't hate incels if incels didn't make it so damn easy. And this is coming from a former incel.

Are you people all fucking children? You expect us to take responsibility for your mental health, now we also have to take responsibility for your actions too?

Bad bot

Yeah, it's typically the other way around. We'll tell them that being shorter than 6' is fine, or something like that, and then some incel will tell us to kill ourselves.

How is it not?

Hmm, that is pretty valid. I guess people do blame but that doesn't mean they are right to. You think the people you mentioned are valid in their complaints?

Lol what?

Often those conclusions are contrived and based on predispositions. You can't control other people so the only thing you can do to fix it is examine your own role in the problem and work to eliminate it.

I'm sure they are but it's the fact that what they say is indistinguishable from other incels that makes it funny.

haha. hell yeah man! it's the wild west of memes out here, and i like em' zesty as fuck!

But if your brain chemistry is imbalanced

nigga, the brain chemistry explanation is a correlation not causation. they don't know jack shit about what they are really doing.

:(

The second moon twice removed from its aunt.

all of it is to fix people into fitting within evil social norms.

i'm not down.

we should be using psychedelics, things which allow consciousness to do it's magic on the brain.

but that threatens people seeing through the status quo ... so, the powers that be certain don't want that.

Says the guy who thinks that living things are "naturally selected."

God damn we really shouldn't let you paint eaters get anything beyond secondary education.

I suspect this person uses that tactic a lot. Hates to not have power over other people. Constant need for drama.

I started like this, but now I'm posting comments every day.

I took 3 different anti depressants and wasted money on useless therapy. Fuck off

Maybe the daily threads about how evil women are for not fucking you, Idk tho

Seriously, my mental health improved a lot once I quit with this incel shit. Sure, I still have depression, but at least I'm usually okay, whereas before I was always angry and depressed.

I mean, are women supposed to excuse your vicious hatred of them because it comes from a place of loneliness rather than nowhere at all?

And when the advice isn't and you run those folks off anyway?

Thanks for the detailed response and it really helped me put myself in an incel’s shoes.

I do understand the need to vent but I don’t necessarily agree with how it’s being done. I’m not sure what I would have done if I had access to a platform like this when I was ugly and being bullied. Maybe I might have spewed some horrible things out of anger and frustration. I don’t know.

I still think this way of venting is bringing a bad name to incels overall on the internet. I think you guys sometimes raise really good points and the dark side of our societies most people don’t want to look into but this is all buried under misogyny and memes. Who’s willing to look through all that? I’m guessing not many.

As the saying goes “you catch more flies with honey”. If you spew out hatred and negativity, hatred and negativity you will receive in return. From a logical point of view, a more diplomatic way could make people listen to you guys more and reflect on themselves if you get where I am coming from. This could potentially change the way people treat ugly people or maybe I’m too hopeful.

That's kinda the weird thing about catharsis, ain't It? Like, on the one hand, whatever good is in me actually does wish the incels here could find someone to love them and work through things. On the other, it's easier to argue with people when they say awful shit, than it is to bother understanding.

Why would I?

And, no, I'm not the problem, incels are. Yeah, I am a dick, but you know what? If I weren't here, there's still be people attacking this sub. And why? Because incels bring it down upon themselves, not because they're virgins, or ugly, or even really because they're misogynists. Nah, it's just that you guys are so fucking cartoonish. People wpuld quit bugging you if you quit making it so easy.