u/JeanLucDiscord is one of IncelTears' head mods. He's broken Reddit-wide rules multiple times by circumventing his bans with other accounts and attempts to dox.
He's had so many I lost count. MovingToIslaVista (an ER reference) was the one he used to try and infiltrate r/Incels, JustTheDoct0r was his main, I know he's had at least 2-3 more but I can't recall.
Yeah, he deleted his post once he saw that I recognized one of his many usernames. Guy rights up an essay with links and everything. Keep in mind this dude is well into his 40's, has been married at least once, and has a stepchild.
How does anyone see this, and think "yeah incels are worse."
Typical. The brigade doesn't even realize how typical they're being right now and it's amazing.
When Chad espouses a crackpot libertarian opinion, everyone is like "aww how smart he believes in freedom and opposes victimless crimes he should be president because he'd end the drug war and school to prison pipeline and solve the epidemic of nonviolent offenders being locked up for years in prison on taxpayer dime"
When an incel does the same, his community gets raided and he gets called a child rapist who needs to be arrested.
Bingo! I'm a normie, some might say a Chadlite. Whenever I feel down about something or myself I just come here or other incel places and read the posts.
Cheers me the fuck up instantly. Because no matter how bad I think I have it or how bad I'm feeling about myself or life, the incel community and incel posts show me that I have it real good. Then I say to myself, holy shit at least I'm not in the same boat as those guys and that cheers me up and pulls me out of whatever funk I'm in.
For a very long time I always thought of myself as not so attractive, kinda below average, but once I found incels all of those thinking patterns vanished and it opened my eyes to see that I'm actually much better looking than I always thought I was. So thank you for making me realize there's actually more people that are far worse off than I had ever imagined there were. I really had no clue before stumbling onto incel groups online.
So it's both good and bad at the same time for you. Good that you're opening eyes to what you guys are experiencing on a daily basis because there's no way anyone on the outside would ever really know. But its also bad because your misery is being used as lifefuel and motivationfuel for normies, and laughfuel and jokefuel for uberChads and Stacys.
It's bad because it requires someone else's suffering and misery to make you realize how good you have it.
As a human being I don't like that. I much rather have a world where everyone was great looking, healthy, didn't die young, and were happy in life.
But as a conscious life form living on this planet where some get dealt shitty hands and others get dealt life on a silver platter, I'm really glad I wasn't dealt a hand that's super shitty. But it means someone else was.
Nah I don't share that idea. Incels are suffering regardless. Most would be happy if a fellow brother who's suffering could take something positive from it so it's not all a waste. As long as he didn't take it for granted. And you obviously aren't. But the tone in your previous comment was a tad too cheerful/smug despite not saying anything disparaging.
It's a combination of them losing their back up options/abundance by incels growing as a community. They lose power in their relationships by simply losing options they were never going to use and this scares them for the future. So they try to see if they can convince us against our own life experience using extenuating circumstances to explain away each theory or experience we had.
They also don't like being the blame for anything and for the sake of their own conscious they try to sell us their rationalisation in hopes we'll agree and stop blaming them for their biological preferences.
When this fails, instead of admitting fault (which women simply cannot do otherwise how could they live with themselves and their choices) they just attack us instead due to frustration and also that they biologically can't help but shit on beta males. So they have a strange 'stance' on us "we want to 'help' them but they're freaks they don't deserve our help that we're forcing upon them daily"
And then to a lesser extent it's also due to the fact girls desire to join and infiltrate a group they aren't allowed to be a part of. They love being the only girls in male spaces and being worshipped by multiple men.
If they can knock all of this out of the park in one attempt, the same way they are able to control their inceltears cuck beta slaves, they score a huge dopamine hit for themselves, but it ain't easy when they themselves are the exact cause of such a group/ideology/reality.
People only associate with other people who match their: looks, income level, social status, and religious/political beliefs.
The more of those factors that match, the higher the chance someone will have something to do with you. There's a reason billionaires only hang out with other billionaires. They having a saying "your success and path in life can be predicted by the friends you keep". If you hang out with junkie druggy friends, you will end up like them. If you hang out with wealthy entrepreneurs, you will end up like them.
They care so much because our truths bother them. If they thought it was completely false they wouldn't make such drama and care so much. It's because deep down, the normies know. Like that cucked IT mod, u/JeanLucDiscord. The normies can fuck off.
Nah, your so called "truths" don't bother me whatsoever. Looks matter - wow, who would have knew?
What matters me is when some sad 15 years old finds a site like this and gets sucked in, maybe even sends a picture of himself and gets comments as "get the rope, it's over". Fuck, that makes me mad. That comment could have fucked up some usually happy guy's life.
Can you judge someone's social life based on a photo? Fuck no, and if the guy is actually 15 or some shit like that he is still in puberty - so he will most likely change a lot in the next couple of years.
I've honestly never seen someone who can't have a successful social life due to looks. I agree that disorders such as severe autism can make it hard to have a successful social life, but honestly - this site seems like a bunch of guys that are sad and lonely and haven't set a foot outside the doors for years. Constantly looking for signs that they are right in their "ideology".
And by the way, fuck you for saying that it is okay to fuck some poor teenage kid over by telling him he is too bad looking to ever date or ever have a successful social life. Who the fuck made you the judge of that?
And by the way, fuck you for saying that it is okay to fuck some poor teenage kid over by telling him he is too bad looking to ever date or ever have a successful social life. Who the fuck made you the judge of that?
Better than him wasting his time and money trying to get a girlfriend and failing as his self esteem is slowly chipped away.
Yeah, lets just fuck his confidence up on the spot instead. And why the fuck is it a waste of time to try to get a girlfriend? How do you guys think this shit works?
Maybe he won't get a girlfriend, maybe he will - one thing is for sure though and it is that he never, ever will if he never tries. Why would it be a waste of time though? Would probably make some friends along the way, would probably have some fun experiences and overall become a more rounded human being. You just don't get a girlfriend, it's not elementary school where you would send a note or some shit. You actually connect with another human being and feel attraction between one another - that's how relationships are born. That's a truth that might be hard to swallow for you though?
"No, because without looks there can't be attraction"
Just because someone isn't conventionally attractive, or flat out hideous doesn't mean it is impossible for someone to find him attractive. Some guys like getting their balls kicked, so I would say if this is possible then it is also possible that someone can find you attractive no matter what you look like.
Maybe he won't get a girlfriend, maybe he will - one thing is for sure though and it is that he never, ever will if he never tries. Why would it be a waste of time though? Would probably make some friends along the way, would probably have some fun experiences and overall become a more rounded human being.
I've tried and nothing has come from it, no friendships, no experiences worth while, just time and money thrown down the drain. I've become more bitter but that's it.
You actually connect with another human being and feel attraction between one another - that's how relationships are born. That's a truth that might be hard to swallow for you though?
Never had a chance for that, women just turn me down on the spot.
Just because someone isn't conventionally attractive, or flat out hideous doesn't mean it is impossible for someone to find him attractive. Some guys like getting their balls kicked, so I would say if this is possible then it is also possible that someone can find you attractive no matter what you look like.
If we could find someone who found us attractive we would't be single would we? I'm just slightly below average!
Wait a second. You are telling me SLIGHTLY BELOW AVERAGE means you are doomed to be single for the rest of your life?
FOR FUCKS SAKES, SLIGHTLY BELOW AVERAGE MEANS THAT PROBABLY 40% OF GUYS ARE EQUAL TO YOU IN ATTRACTION. How many do you think wind up single for the rest of their lives? It's not 40%, I'll tell you that.
Do you have a circle of friends? Turned down on the spot? Where did you approach? Cold approaches are creepy unless you are really good looking (oh, looks are everything /s). Turned down at clubs/bars? A normal night out for the average guy is probably 5+ rejections.
Wait a second. You are telling me SLIGHTLY BELOW AVERAGE means you are doomed to be single for the rest of your life?
yes, that's why I don't have a chance and I'm aware of that.
FOR FUCKS SAKES, SLIGHTLY BELOW AVERAGE MEANS THAT PROBABLY 40% OF GUYS ARE EQUAL TO YOU IN ATTRACTION. How many do you think wind up single for the rest of their lives? It's not 40%, I'll tell you that.
How many do you think end up killing themselves because they know their life wont get anywhere, get in a relationship where they are robbed of their money, or just give up and try not to think about anything regarding relationship.
Do you have a circle of friends? Turned down on the spot? Where did you approach? Cold approaches are creepy unless you are really good looking (oh, looks are everything /s). Turned down at clubs/bars? A normal night out for the average guy is probably 5+ rejections.
I could only get 3 rejections after about 2 hours of walking around stores looking for women. Female friends have rejected me and won't introduce me to any other girls. Never been to a bar or club, seems like you'd only find degenerate whores there.
You don't have a chance because you are slightly below average looking? Please, please, please - stop being so fucking delusional. I'm also slightly below average looking and it didn't doom me.
You were fucking walking around stores looking for women? That's some next level creep shit right there. For fucks sakes man. Do you think 40% of the male population are suicidal and think their relationships are fucked up because they are not better looking? Fuck no, fuck no, fuck no, fuck no, fuck no - FUCK NO.
Yeah, of course it must only be degenerate whores who go to bars or clubs to grab a few drinks and have fun with their friends. /s Fuck, man. I don't even know what to say. You fucked up your head by all this shit, I don't even know what will help. Just get the fuck off this website, live a fucking normal life and look back at this post a couple years from now. You will realize that fucking 0% of what you say is true, and I gotta say that this is some of the most fucked up shit I've read.
You don't have a chance because you are slightly below average looking? Please, please, please - stop being so fucking delusional. I'm also slightly below average looking and it didn't doom me.
Sure it didn't, please, tell me how many relationships you've been in, my guess is somewhere below one, either that or you are lying about being slightly below average.
You were fucking walking around stores looking for women? That's some next level creep shit right there. For fucks sakes man.
Where else would I go? legal drinking age is too high in the US, guys are forced into using next level creep tactics especially to find a younger girl.
Yeah, of course it must only be degenerate whores who go to bars or clubs to grab a few drinks and have fun with their friends. /s Fuck, man. I don't even know what to say. You fucked up your head by all this shit, I don't even know what will help. Just get the fuck off this website, live a fucking normal life and look back at this post a couple years from now. You will realize that fucking 0% of what you say is true, and I gotta say that this is some of the most fucked up shit I've read.
I consider women drinking to be a degenerate activity. Why would a girl go to a bar if she isn't looking for sex? it's cheaper to just drink at home. My head is fine but nothing will help, I can't live a normal life because I've been deprived of chances and will always be bitter and angry about it like with drinking underage, I feel like I didn't do it enough so I feel like shit and look down on everyone else because I know they were drinking in their teens way more than me. How is any of what I say fucked up?
I've been in zero serious relationships, but I've had sex with more than one woman. I don't want to be in a serious relationship at the moment though.
How old are you? And how much younger do you mean?
Okay, how is any of what you say fucked up?
"I consider women drinking to be a degenerate activity"
Why the fuck would it be a degenerate activity? I've hooked up with girls from bars and clubs, so I guess I am a degenerate as well? Going out drinking is a fun thing to do, I doubt a lot of people go out with the sole purpose to fuck someone and even if they did - WHY WOULD IT BE DEGENERATE? It's pretty fucking human, isn't it? Does it bother you that women get horny? Does it make you feel uncomfortable?
"How many do you think end up killing themselves because they know their life wont get anywhere"
That's a pretty fucked up thinking.
"Never been to a bar or club, seems like you'd only find degenerate whores there."
Ask anyone outside an incel sub if they think that is a fucked up thing to say, literally everyone will say that you are crazy.
"Never been to a bar or club, seems like you'd only find degenerate whores there." Ask anyone outside an incel sub if they think that is a fucked up thing to say, literally everyone will say that you are crazy.
Most people would agree with me, why else would they be going to a bar or club?
Just a bit under 21, my ideal age for a girlfriend would be in high school and young enough to have a decent chance of being a virgin, I realize that would unfortunately be illegal though so I'm stuck looking for a whore.
It's degenerate because they are ruining their bodies and altering their minds, wasting their money and spending time around slutty women and men who will be attracted to them. I want a girl who doesn't drink, smoke or do drugs. I don't care if it's a pretty human activity my opinion remains, there are plenty of other activities that are considered pretty human most people that I am strongly against like the frequency of sex and premarital sex. Yes it does bother me that women get horny, no it does not make me uncomfortable.
"How many do you think end up killing themselves because they know their life wont get anywhere" That's a pretty fucked up thinking.
I'm just accounting for reasons why the number of virgins would be going down with age.
Not wanting a girl that doesn't drink, smoke or do drugs is absolutely reasonable. However, you can't think of people who do that stuff as degenerates. Honestly man, why do you hate people who are just minding their own business so much?
Why does it bother you that women get horny? Would be a pretty fucked up world otherwise, and most of us would definitely not be alive.
Dude, you are only 21. You have so many years in front of you. "Ḯm stuck looking for a whore" - wow, what a romantic. You complain about being able to attract women when you see them as whores? Sounds pretty fucking stupid, doesn't it? A woman is not a whore because she has had sex, a woman is not a whore because she has had sex with multiple partners.
Well, alright. Let us think rationally about it. Can't it be as simple as them getting laid? I wonder how many of the suicides are correlated with virginity, I doubt that many of them are. To me, it feels pretty rational at least that some people just lose their virginity later than others - not that they kill themselves.
Not wanting a girl that doesn't drink, smoke or do drugs is absolutely reasonable. However, you can't think of people who do that stuff as degenerates. Honestly man, why do you hate people who are just minding their own business so much?
Because I've been pissed off for years about not being able to drink so seeing people who are able to enjoy themselves pisses me off.
Why does it bother you that women get horny? Would be a pretty fucked up world otherwise, and most of us would definitely not be alive.
I find it to be a sign of her being slutty.
Dude, you are only 21. You have so many years in front of you. "Ḯm stuck looking for a whore" - wow, what a romantic. You complain about being able to attract women when you see them as whores? Sounds pretty fucking stupid, doesn't it? A woman is not a whore because she has had sex, a woman is not a whore because she has had sex with multiple partners.
By my standards a girl who has had multiple partners is definitely a whore.
Well, alright. Let us think rationally about it. Can't it be as simple as them getting laid? I wonder how many of the suicides are correlated with virginity, I doubt that many of them are. To me, it feels pretty rational at least that some people just lose their virginity later than others - not that they kill themselves.
I'd say probably at least 20 percent of the suicides of virgins are from virginity.
From what I've seen, most users here would think 15 yrs old is too young to identify as an "incel" (as you mentioned, there is still lots of room to grow when you're only 15) and would turn away a 15 yr old from this community.
Yeah, thanks for showing me some hope. I'm really sorry about any circumstances that made you all come to a site like this to find compassion. But the thought of young people getting sucked into this shit before they are even mature enough to live on their own makes me sick.
That's not what it's about. If a 15 year old kid posts a pic and he looks like blackops2cel (pardon my blasphemy) he is fucked. He might pull a landwhale looking to settle in his late 30's, only to get divorce raped a few years later.
But if he adopts the red pill mentality he can avoid that, as well as judging his worth on what women think of him.
Fuck the guy who put out that happy guy out on the web, declaring him the ugliest to ever walk this earth. Honestly, fuck that guy and everyone who laughed at his picture. A fucking happy guy posting on an innocent call of duty forum gets hanged out like that, fucking disgusting.
Are your lives only about women? Are you fucked if you are not good looking enough to get an attractive partner? Fuck no. Divorce raped later? Fuck man, I don't even know what you get all this from. Honestly, I tried to adopt this way of thinking yesterday and today just to see if I could find any real life examples. A neighbor of mine is not the best looking guy, not rich and pretty short - guess what? He is married with two kids and has been for 15+ years. Lets see if he gets divorced rape, highly doubt it.
I don't agree with the people from IncelTears either though, they are mocking a serious thing. Most of you guys have placed so much fucking empathize on relationships that you can't properly function, you believe the whole fucking world is only about getting laid. What makes them losers? What makes you guys losers? Fuck man, most of you don't seem to be losers. You just seem to have been that weird kid growing up and then realized in his 20's that he hasn't had sex yet, then tries to blame it on something as looks. I am sure there are some of you that are legit good people who have tried their best to improve and find relationships, and found this as their last exit. And I feel truly sorry for the way that worked out, but fucking hell - don't fuck up some kid's life because of this.
I found this sub because I like /r/truerateme, it's pretty fun to see people get objectively rated on their appearance. It has taught me a great deal about facial attractiveness, but I can't stand when young guys get rated and people say it's over. Fuck that. I don't really know what red pill is - I guess it means that attraction is mainly looks, money and whatever?
To me it doesn't sound like a good idea to learn attraction from a bunch of virgins from the Internet, right? Sounds pretty paradoxical. Most women are unique, so what fits one might not fit another. I do however agree that looks matter, and they always will. But if you are somewhere between average to below average, you don't have anything to worry about looks wise.
I’m here because I want to see people’s stories, maybe see where they’re coming from, and hopefully be helpful. No reason to be pissed about that, right?
Have you heard that your hatred of women is possibly justified, in a specific all-the-women-I’ve-personally-met-are-jerks level? And it’s part of life to try and get past those specific people, and move on to better shit?
Hey, that’s all the better, but there are plenty of people who hate women, full stop, on this sub. And I don’t see the point of ladylikeness- that’s kinda like telling someone black that they should like fried chicken, or someone white that they should like Trump. In the end, we’re all just people, and people can be whoever they please.
Wait a second. You are telling me SLIGHTLY BELOW AVERAGE means you are doomed to be single for the rest of your life?
FOR FUCKS SAKES, SLIGHTLY BELOW AVERAGE MEANS THAT PROBABLY 40% OF GUYS ARE EQUAL TO YOU IN ATTRACTION. How many do you think wind up single for the rest of their lives? It's not 40%, I'll tell you that.
Do you have a circle of friends? Turned down on the spot? Where did you approach? Cold approaches are creepy unless you are really good looking (oh, looks are everything /s). Turned down at clubs/bars? A normal night out for the average guy is probably 5+ rejections.
Fuck the guy who put out that happy guy out on the web, declaring him the ugliest to ever walk this earth. Honestly, fuck that guy and everyone who laughed at his picture. A fucking happy guy posting on an innocent call of duty forum gets hanged out like that, fucking disgusting.
Are your lives only about women? Are you fucked if you are not good looking enough to get an attractive partner? Fuck no. Divorce raped later? Fuck man, I don't even know what you get all this from. Honestly, I tried to adopt this way of thinking yesterday and today just to see if I could find any real life examples. A neighbor of mine is not the best looking guy, not rich and pretty short - guess what? He is married with two kids and has been for 15+ years. Lets see if he gets divorced rape, highly doubt it.
I don't agree with the people from IncelTears either though, they are mocking a serious thing. Most of you guys have placed so much fucking empathize on relationships that you can't properly function, you believe the whole fucking world is only about getting laid. What makes them losers? What makes you guys losers? Fuck man, most of you don't seem to be losers. You just seem to have been that weird kid growing up and then realized in his 20's that he hasn't had sex yet, then tries to blame it on something as looks. I am sure there are some of you that are legit good people who have tried their best to improve and find relationships, and found this as their last exit. And I feel truly sorry for the way that worked out, but fucking hell - don't fuck up some kid's life because of this.
I found this sub because I like /r/truerateme, it's pretty fun to see people get objectively rated on their appearance. It has taught me a great deal about facial attractiveness, but I can't stand when young guys get rated and people say it's over. Fuck that. I don't really know what red pill is - I guess it means that attraction is mainly looks, money and whatever?
To me it doesn't sound like a good idea to learn attraction from a bunch of virgins from the Internet, right? Sounds pretty paradoxical. Most women are unique, so what fits one might not fit another. I do however agree that looks matter, and they always will. But if you are somewhere between average to below average, you don't have anything to worry about looks wise.
109 comments
1 idespisewomen 2018-03-08
what the flippin heck is going on?
im so discombobulated and befuddled
1 DankIncel 2018-03-08
We got linked and now Normalshits are invading our subreddit: https://np.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/82yxle/rbraincels_head_mod_defends_pedos_and_watching/
1 idespisewomen 2018-03-08
ew
1 dead_eyed_mofo 2018-03-08
Holy fuck so much drama over some one unimportant opinion.
1 VonMagnar 2018-03-08
That's busybodies for ya.
1 daskettenkrad 2018-03-08
Ah, sardines, people with sticks up their asses who think they're funny.
/r/drama is much better.
1 BF8211 2018-03-08
u/JeanLucDiscord is one of IncelTears' head mods. He's broken Reddit-wide rules multiple times by circumventing his bans with other accounts and attempts to dox.
1 jaghatarhonor 2018-03-08
Holy SHIT, that fucking loser is STILL around?! What's his other account?
1 BF8211 2018-03-08
He's had so many I lost count. MovingToIslaVista (an ER reference) was the one he used to try and infiltrate r/Incels, JustTheDoct0r was his main, I know he's had at least 2-3 more but I can't recall.
1 jaghatarhonor 2018-03-08
Jesus Christ that's pathetic. And the one he's an IT mod on? Is it a_hanging_chad?
1 BF8211 2018-03-08
I don’t think so, it’s one of the ones that have been “inactive” (he still uses it just never posts or comments) for some time.
1 jaghatarhonor 2018-03-08
Probably highmynameischad then, the fucking founder of the subreddit. Jesus, and these are the people that make fun of us.
1 BF8211 2018-03-08
It gets better, he's involved in cuckolding and hotwifing, as well as raising a daughter that's not his.
1 jaghatarhonor 2018-03-08
LMFAO source?
1 BF8211 2018-03-08
He's mentioned it before back when he used JustTheDoct0r on r/Incels, and has talked about it openly. If he shows up here he'll probably confirm it.
1 jaghatarhonor 2018-03-08
The founder of IncelTears is a literal cuck. I can't believe it, that's just too fucking perfect.
1 PROLAPSED_SUBWOOFER 2018-03-08
Real life imitates art.
1 r4risbullshit 2018-03-08
Fucking hell this explains so much now.
This obsession is unreal.
1 BF8211 2018-03-08
Yeah, he deleted his post once he saw that I recognized one of his many usernames. Guy rights up an essay with links and everything. Keep in mind this dude is well into his 40's, has been married at least once, and has a stepchild.
How does anyone see this, and think "yeah incels are worse."
1 sc2isadeadgame 2018-03-08
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end times bro
1 Sniveling_Cur 2018-03-08
mad mspaint skillz bro
1 futashy_piss 2018-03-08
Pprivatize this sub right fucking now!!!
1 r4risbullshit 2018-03-08
Moar roast beef memes pls.
1 DankIncel 2018-03-08
"I am sick and tired of fuckboys. I just want a real man to settle with now."
1 changeIsTheWay 2018-03-08
All these damn normans.
1 tomez4 2018-03-08
REEEEE
1 AjitPaiFan 2018-03-08
Typical. The brigade doesn't even realize how typical they're being right now and it's amazing.
When Chad espouses a crackpot libertarian opinion, everyone is like "aww how smart he believes in freedom and opposes victimless crimes he should be president because he'd end the drug war and school to prison pipeline and solve the epidemic of nonviolent offenders being locked up for years in prison on taxpayer dime"
When an incel does the same, his community gets raided and he gets called a child rapist who needs to be arrested.
1 trevmon 2018-03-08
How come in real life normies and stacys want nothing to do with us but on reddit we're most popular ever
1 DankIncel 2018-03-08
Because to them we are like freaks in a circus. Exist for their own amusement. Fuck normcucks.
1 Dorfler777 2018-03-08
Bingo! I'm a normie, some might say a Chadlite. Whenever I feel down about something or myself I just come here or other incel places and read the posts.
Cheers me the fuck up instantly. Because no matter how bad I think I have it or how bad I'm feeling about myself or life, the incel community and incel posts show me that I have it real good. Then I say to myself, holy shit at least I'm not in the same boat as those guys and that cheers me up and pulls me out of whatever funk I'm in.
For a very long time I always thought of myself as not so attractive, kinda below average, but once I found incels all of those thinking patterns vanished and it opened my eyes to see that I'm actually much better looking than I always thought I was. So thank you for making me realize there's actually more people that are far worse off than I had ever imagined there were. I really had no clue before stumbling onto incel groups online.
So it's both good and bad at the same time for you. Good that you're opening eyes to what you guys are experiencing on a daily basis because there's no way anyone on the outside would ever really know. But its also bad because your misery is being used as lifefuel and motivationfuel for normies, and laughfuel and jokefuel for uberChads and Stacys.
1 empatheticapathetic 2018-03-08
Why is being used as lifefuel and motivationfuel bad?
1 Dorfler777 2018-03-08
It's bad because it requires someone else's suffering and misery to make you realize how good you have it.
As a human being I don't like that. I much rather have a world where everyone was great looking, healthy, didn't die young, and were happy in life.
But as a conscious life form living on this planet where some get dealt shitty hands and others get dealt life on a silver platter, I'm really glad I wasn't dealt a hand that's super shitty. But it means someone else was.
1 empatheticapathetic 2018-03-08
Nah I don't share that idea. Incels are suffering regardless. Most would be happy if a fellow brother who's suffering could take something positive from it so it's not all a waste. As long as he didn't take it for granted. And you obviously aren't. But the tone in your previous comment was a tad too cheerful/smug despite not saying anything disparaging.
1 empatheticapathetic 2018-03-08
It's a combination of them losing their back up options/abundance by incels growing as a community. They lose power in their relationships by simply losing options they were never going to use and this scares them for the future. So they try to see if they can convince us against our own life experience using extenuating circumstances to explain away each theory or experience we had.
They also don't like being the blame for anything and for the sake of their own conscious they try to sell us their rationalisation in hopes we'll agree and stop blaming them for their biological preferences.
When this fails, instead of admitting fault (which women simply cannot do otherwise how could they live with themselves and their choices) they just attack us instead due to frustration and also that they biologically can't help but shit on beta males. So they have a strange 'stance' on us "we want to 'help' them but they're freaks they don't deserve our help that we're forcing upon them daily"
And then to a lesser extent it's also due to the fact girls desire to join and infiltrate a group they aren't allowed to be a part of. They love being the only girls in male spaces and being worshipped by multiple men.
If they can knock all of this out of the park in one attempt, the same way they are able to control their inceltears cuck beta slaves, they score a huge dopamine hit for themselves, but it ain't easy when they themselves are the exact cause of such a group/ideology/reality.
1 Dorfler777 2018-03-08
People only associate with other people who match their: looks, income level, social status, and religious/political beliefs.
The more of those factors that match, the higher the chance someone will have something to do with you. There's a reason billionaires only hang out with other billionaires. They having a saying "your success and path in life can be predicted by the friends you keep". If you hang out with junkie druggy friends, you will end up like them. If you hang out with wealthy entrepreneurs, you will end up like them.
1 greenquackity 2018-03-08
Umm if you mean on this sub then yeah
I wouldn’t say the whole of reddit though...
1 toth42 2018-03-08
You're good drama. Paired with popcorn and a beer this sub is quite entertaining.
1 EhtReklim 2018-03-08
Because theyre different people.
1 PeppyHydra 2018-03-08
They care so much because our truths bother them. If they thought it was completely false they wouldn't make such drama and care so much. It's because deep down, the normies know. Like that cucked IT mod, u/JeanLucDiscord. The normies can fuck off.
1 DankIncel 2018-03-08
/r/inceltears summarized nicely.
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1 GoodTimesTM 2018-03-08
Nah, your so called "truths" don't bother me whatsoever. Looks matter - wow, who would have knew?
What matters me is when some sad 15 years old finds a site like this and gets sucked in, maybe even sends a picture of himself and gets comments as "get the rope, it's over". Fuck, that makes me mad. That comment could have fucked up some usually happy guy's life.
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-03-08
No, there isn't anything wrong with telling someone it's over when it honestly is.
1 GoodTimesTM 2018-03-08
Alright, then define "it's over" to me then? When is it completely over for someone?
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-03-08
When their looks aren't good enough to get a girlfriend or have a successful social life.
1 GoodTimesTM 2018-03-08
Can you judge someone's social life based on a photo? Fuck no, and if the guy is actually 15 or some shit like that he is still in puberty - so he will most likely change a lot in the next couple of years.
I've honestly never seen someone who can't have a successful social life due to looks. I agree that disorders such as severe autism can make it hard to have a successful social life, but honestly - this site seems like a bunch of guys that are sad and lonely and haven't set a foot outside the doors for years. Constantly looking for signs that they are right in their "ideology".
And by the way, fuck you for saying that it is okay to fuck some poor teenage kid over by telling him he is too bad looking to ever date or ever have a successful social life. Who the fuck made you the judge of that?
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-03-08
Better than him wasting his time and money trying to get a girlfriend and failing as his self esteem is slowly chipped away.
1 GoodTimesTM 2018-03-08
Yeah, lets just fuck his confidence up on the spot instead. And why the fuck is it a waste of time to try to get a girlfriend? How do you guys think this shit works?
Maybe he won't get a girlfriend, maybe he will - one thing is for sure though and it is that he never, ever will if he never tries. Why would it be a waste of time though? Would probably make some friends along the way, would probably have some fun experiences and overall become a more rounded human being. You just don't get a girlfriend, it's not elementary school where you would send a note or some shit. You actually connect with another human being and feel attraction between one another - that's how relationships are born. That's a truth that might be hard to swallow for you though?
"No, because without looks there can't be attraction"
Just because someone isn't conventionally attractive, or flat out hideous doesn't mean it is impossible for someone to find him attractive. Some guys like getting their balls kicked, so I would say if this is possible then it is also possible that someone can find you attractive no matter what you look like.
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-03-08
I've tried and nothing has come from it, no friendships, no experiences worth while, just time and money thrown down the drain. I've become more bitter but that's it.
Never had a chance for that, women just turn me down on the spot.
If we could find someone who found us attractive we would't be single would we? I'm just slightly below average!
1 GoodTimesTM 2018-03-08
Wait a second. You are telling me SLIGHTLY BELOW AVERAGE means you are doomed to be single for the rest of your life?
FOR FUCKS SAKES, SLIGHTLY BELOW AVERAGE MEANS THAT PROBABLY 40% OF GUYS ARE EQUAL TO YOU IN ATTRACTION. How many do you think wind up single for the rest of their lives? It's not 40%, I'll tell you that.
Do you have a circle of friends? Turned down on the spot? Where did you approach? Cold approaches are creepy unless you are really good looking (oh, looks are everything /s). Turned down at clubs/bars? A normal night out for the average guy is probably 5+ rejections.
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-03-08
yes, that's why I don't have a chance and I'm aware of that.
How many do you think end up killing themselves because they know their life wont get anywhere, get in a relationship where they are robbed of their money, or just give up and try not to think about anything regarding relationship.
I could only get 3 rejections after about 2 hours of walking around stores looking for women. Female friends have rejected me and won't introduce me to any other girls. Never been to a bar or club, seems like you'd only find degenerate whores there.
1 GoodTimesTM 2018-03-08
My head literally hurts right now.
You don't have a chance because you are slightly below average looking? Please, please, please - stop being so fucking delusional. I'm also slightly below average looking and it didn't doom me.
You were fucking walking around stores looking for women? That's some next level creep shit right there. For fucks sakes man. Do you think 40% of the male population are suicidal and think their relationships are fucked up because they are not better looking? Fuck no, fuck no, fuck no, fuck no, fuck no - FUCK NO.
Yeah, of course it must only be degenerate whores who go to bars or clubs to grab a few drinks and have fun with their friends. /s Fuck, man. I don't even know what to say. You fucked up your head by all this shit, I don't even know what will help. Just get the fuck off this website, live a fucking normal life and look back at this post a couple years from now. You will realize that fucking 0% of what you say is true, and I gotta say that this is some of the most fucked up shit I've read.
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-03-08
Sure it didn't, please, tell me how many relationships you've been in, my guess is somewhere below one, either that or you are lying about being slightly below average.
Where else would I go? legal drinking age is too high in the US, guys are forced into using next level creep tactics especially to find a younger girl.
I consider women drinking to be a degenerate activity. Why would a girl go to a bar if she isn't looking for sex? it's cheaper to just drink at home. My head is fine but nothing will help, I can't live a normal life because I've been deprived of chances and will always be bitter and angry about it like with drinking underage, I feel like I didn't do it enough so I feel like shit and look down on everyone else because I know they were drinking in their teens way more than me. How is any of what I say fucked up?
1 GoodTimesTM 2018-03-08
I've been in zero serious relationships, but I've had sex with more than one woman. I don't want to be in a serious relationship at the moment though.
How old are you? And how much younger do you mean?
Okay, how is any of what you say fucked up?
"I consider women drinking to be a degenerate activity"
Why the fuck would it be a degenerate activity? I've hooked up with girls from bars and clubs, so I guess I am a degenerate as well? Going out drinking is a fun thing to do, I doubt a lot of people go out with the sole purpose to fuck someone and even if they did - WHY WOULD IT BE DEGENERATE? It's pretty fucking human, isn't it? Does it bother you that women get horny? Does it make you feel uncomfortable?
"How many do you think end up killing themselves because they know their life wont get anywhere"
That's a pretty fucked up thinking.
"Never been to a bar or club, seems like you'd only find degenerate whores there."
Ask anyone outside an incel sub if they think that is a fucked up thing to say, literally everyone will say that you are crazy.
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-03-08
Most people would agree with me, why else would they be going to a bar or club?
Just a bit under 21, my ideal age for a girlfriend would be in high school and young enough to have a decent chance of being a virgin, I realize that would unfortunately be illegal though so I'm stuck looking for a whore.
It's degenerate because they are ruining their bodies and altering their minds, wasting their money and spending time around slutty women and men who will be attracted to them. I want a girl who doesn't drink, smoke or do drugs. I don't care if it's a pretty human activity my opinion remains, there are plenty of other activities that are considered pretty human most people that I am strongly against like the frequency of sex and premarital sex. Yes it does bother me that women get horny, no it does not make me uncomfortable.
I'm just accounting for reasons why the number of virgins would be going down with age.
1 GoodTimesTM 2018-03-08
Not wanting a girl that doesn't drink, smoke or do drugs is absolutely reasonable. However, you can't think of people who do that stuff as degenerates. Honestly man, why do you hate people who are just minding their own business so much?
Why does it bother you that women get horny? Would be a pretty fucked up world otherwise, and most of us would definitely not be alive.
Dude, you are only 21. You have so many years in front of you. "Ḯm stuck looking for a whore" - wow, what a romantic. You complain about being able to attract women when you see them as whores? Sounds pretty fucking stupid, doesn't it? A woman is not a whore because she has had sex, a woman is not a whore because she has had sex with multiple partners.
Well, alright. Let us think rationally about it. Can't it be as simple as them getting laid? I wonder how many of the suicides are correlated with virginity, I doubt that many of them are. To me, it feels pretty rational at least that some people just lose their virginity later than others - not that they kill themselves.
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-03-08
Because I've been pissed off for years about not being able to drink so seeing people who are able to enjoy themselves pisses me off.
I find it to be a sign of her being slutty.
By my standards a girl who has had multiple partners is definitely a whore.
I'd say probably at least 20 percent of the suicides of virgins are from virginity.
1 CherubOfBael41 2018-03-08
Just stop being autistic desu. Maybe then us normies can tolerate your presence
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-03-08
There isn't anything wrong with me.
1 CherubOfBael41 2018-03-08
I'm sorry, super new to this 4chan thing. Was I being too mean spirited? Yeah I should stop messing around
1 IphisTelethousas 2018-03-08
When they have decided that it's over for them.
1 kta2 2018-03-08
From what I've seen, most users here would think 15 yrs old is too young to identify as an "incel" (as you mentioned, there is still lots of room to grow when you're only 15) and would turn away a 15 yr old from this community.
1 GoodTimesTM 2018-03-08
Yeah, thanks for showing me some hope. I'm really sorry about any circumstances that made you all come to a site like this to find compassion. But the thought of young people getting sucked into this shit before they are even mature enough to live on their own makes me sick.
1 PeppyHydra 2018-03-08
That's not what it's about. If a 15 year old kid posts a pic and he looks like blackops2cel (pardon my blasphemy) he is fucked. He might pull a landwhale looking to settle in his late 30's, only to get divorce raped a few years later.
But if he adopts the red pill mentality he can avoid that, as well as judging his worth on what women think of him.
1 GoodTimesTM 2018-03-08
Fuck the guy who put out that happy guy out on the web, declaring him the ugliest to ever walk this earth. Honestly, fuck that guy and everyone who laughed at his picture. A fucking happy guy posting on an innocent call of duty forum gets hanged out like that, fucking disgusting.
Are your lives only about women? Are you fucked if you are not good looking enough to get an attractive partner? Fuck no. Divorce raped later? Fuck man, I don't even know what you get all this from. Honestly, I tried to adopt this way of thinking yesterday and today just to see if I could find any real life examples. A neighbor of mine is not the best looking guy, not rich and pretty short - guess what? He is married with two kids and has been for 15+ years. Lets see if he gets divorced rape, highly doubt it.
I don't agree with the people from IncelTears either though, they are mocking a serious thing. Most of you guys have placed so much fucking empathize on relationships that you can't properly function, you believe the whole fucking world is only about getting laid. What makes them losers? What makes you guys losers? Fuck man, most of you don't seem to be losers. You just seem to have been that weird kid growing up and then realized in his 20's that he hasn't had sex yet, then tries to blame it on something as looks. I am sure there are some of you that are legit good people who have tried their best to improve and find relationships, and found this as their last exit. And I feel truly sorry for the way that worked out, but fucking hell - don't fuck up some kid's life because of this.
I found this sub because I like /r/truerateme, it's pretty fun to see people get objectively rated on their appearance. It has taught me a great deal about facial attractiveness, but I can't stand when young guys get rated and people say it's over. Fuck that. I don't really know what red pill is - I guess it means that attraction is mainly looks, money and whatever?
To me it doesn't sound like a good idea to learn attraction from a bunch of virgins from the Internet, right? Sounds pretty paradoxical. Most women are unique, so what fits one might not fit another. I do however agree that looks matter, and they always will. But if you are somewhere between average to below average, you don't have anything to worry about looks wise.
1 HenryStrenner 2018-03-08
You're a good man, brother. Thanks for your comment, brought some truth in this lost place.
1 Greek_Talent 2018-03-08
They have nothing better to do. Women are inferior!
1 Mr-5-5 2018-03-08
If we go Reee we can't hear their disparagities.
1 backflip4putin 2018-03-08
I’m not an incel. Total normie. I completely support you guys as a community and if this sub gets privatized I would like to stay
1 DarthOniichan 2018-03-08
Volcel here for the dank memes.
1 DankIncel 2018-03-08
"volcel" you sure you aren't an Incel in denial? Any woman would tap "that"?
1 DarthOniichan 2018-03-08
I’m a non-virgin and don’t wanna currently settle for the uggo morons that are currently into me.
1 DankIncel 2018-03-08
Alright Norman.
1 DankIncel 2018-03-08
"non-virgin". So you aren't really a volcel. Just a Norman.
1 bs310 2018-03-08
Celibacy isnt the same thing as virginity.
1 Hopecel 2018-03-08
Lmao.
1 Doomtrack 2018-03-08
No thanks, this place is entertaining so i'l stay.
1 AirborneCh0de 2018-03-08
Just here for the show
1 sceyef 2018-03-08
this post just makes it worse
1 Cmjstooky4 2018-03-08
I’m here because I want to see people’s stories, maybe see where they’re coming from, and hopefully be helpful. No reason to be pissed about that, right?
1 Hopecel 2018-03-08
Unless you are a female and offer sex you cannot help in any way.
1 DankIncel 2018-03-08
Normans have shit tier advice. Whatever you want to say, we've heard it before.
1 HenryStrenner 2018-03-08
Bet you didn't hear some very specific sounds, son.
1 Cmjstooky4 2018-03-08
Have you heard that your hatred of women is possibly justified, in a specific all-the-women-I’ve-personally-met-are-jerks level? And it’s part of life to try and get past those specific people, and move on to better shit?
1 DankIncel 2018-03-08
Why do Normans always project. Listen boyo, I don't hate women. But yeah most women are the opposite of ladylike.
1 Cmjstooky4 2018-03-08
Hey, that’s all the better, but there are plenty of people who hate women, full stop, on this sub. And I don’t see the point of ladylikeness- that’s kinda like telling someone black that they should like fried chicken, or someone white that they should like Trump. In the end, we’re all just people, and people can be whoever they please.
1 BeyondEarthly 2018-03-08
Lol. I love yall so much.
1 boredyeah 2018-03-08
The fuck us
Incel orgy
1 BeyondEarthly 2018-03-08
Then you wouldn't be an incel.
1 boredyeah 2018-03-08
Youre selfish
1 BeyondEarthly 2018-03-08
I'm selfless. I'm thinking about the greater good of us Normies by not having a hypocritical incel orgy l.
1 HenryStrenner 2018-03-08
You're like an incel Maria Magdalena.
1 BeyondEarthly 2018-03-08
It's hard, but someonea gotta do it.
1 Hopecel 2018-03-08
Go to therapy. If you need to look down on people to feel better about yourself you are deeply fucked up. Best of luck to you, normshit.
1 BeyondEarthly 2018-03-08
You look up to us, who is worse?
1 Hopecel 2018-03-08
I’m confused to say the least. How do I look up to you?
1 BeyondEarthly 2018-03-08
Well, since yall tend to be shorter than the average person, and we Normies look down on you, you obviously have to lool up to us.
1 Hopecel 2018-03-08
Xxxxxxxxdddddddddddddddddd.
1 BeyondEarthly 2018-03-08
8=>~
1 HenryStrenner 2018-03-08
Hahaha. Thanks for that. Lurking for a long time here now. It's nice to see other "normies" here.
1 BeyondEarthly 2018-03-08
I love this sub.
1 AllMightyTallest 2018-03-08
Because he fucks.
1 not_good_looking 2018-03-08
Really? Didn’t know virgins like you were above us.
1 BeyondEarthly 2018-03-08
Is that how you feel about yourself?
1 AntiAbleism 2018-03-08
Yeah fuck off cucks and cunts.
1 boredyeah 2018-03-08
Normieville: where flanders lives.
1 HenryStrenner 2018-03-08
Man guys. I'm observing since the old incels. Always had a soft spot for incels. But you guys are getting your ass kicked by normies here. Holy shit.
1 DankIncel 2018-03-08
Alright Norman.
1 DankIncel 2018-03-08
"non-virgin". So you aren't really a volcel. Just a Norman.
1 Hopecel 2018-03-08
Lmao.
1 GoodTimesTM 2018-03-08
Wait a second. You are telling me SLIGHTLY BELOW AVERAGE means you are doomed to be single for the rest of your life?
FOR FUCKS SAKES, SLIGHTLY BELOW AVERAGE MEANS THAT PROBABLY 40% OF GUYS ARE EQUAL TO YOU IN ATTRACTION. How many do you think wind up single for the rest of their lives? It's not 40%, I'll tell you that.
Do you have a circle of friends? Turned down on the spot? Where did you approach? Cold approaches are creepy unless you are really good looking (oh, looks are everything /s). Turned down at clubs/bars? A normal night out for the average guy is probably 5+ rejections.
1 CherubOfBael41 2018-03-08
I'm sorry, super new to this 4chan thing. Was I being too mean spirited? Yeah I should stop messing around
1 GoodTimesTM 2018-03-08
Fuck the guy who put out that happy guy out on the web, declaring him the ugliest to ever walk this earth. Honestly, fuck that guy and everyone who laughed at his picture. A fucking happy guy posting on an innocent call of duty forum gets hanged out like that, fucking disgusting.
Are your lives only about women? Are you fucked if you are not good looking enough to get an attractive partner? Fuck no. Divorce raped later? Fuck man, I don't even know what you get all this from. Honestly, I tried to adopt this way of thinking yesterday and today just to see if I could find any real life examples. A neighbor of mine is not the best looking guy, not rich and pretty short - guess what? He is married with two kids and has been for 15+ years. Lets see if he gets divorced rape, highly doubt it.
I don't agree with the people from IncelTears either though, they are mocking a serious thing. Most of you guys have placed so much fucking empathize on relationships that you can't properly function, you believe the whole fucking world is only about getting laid. What makes them losers? What makes you guys losers? Fuck man, most of you don't seem to be losers. You just seem to have been that weird kid growing up and then realized in his 20's that he hasn't had sex yet, then tries to blame it on something as looks. I am sure there are some of you that are legit good people who have tried their best to improve and find relationships, and found this as their last exit. And I feel truly sorry for the way that worked out, but fucking hell - don't fuck up some kid's life because of this.
I found this sub because I like /r/truerateme, it's pretty fun to see people get objectively rated on their appearance. It has taught me a great deal about facial attractiveness, but I can't stand when young guys get rated and people say it's over. Fuck that. I don't really know what red pill is - I guess it means that attraction is mainly looks, money and whatever?
To me it doesn't sound like a good idea to learn attraction from a bunch of virgins from the Internet, right? Sounds pretty paradoxical. Most women are unique, so what fits one might not fit another. I do however agree that looks matter, and they always will. But if you are somewhere between average to below average, you don't have anything to worry about looks wise.
1 HenryStrenner 2018-03-08
You're like an incel Maria Magdalena.