Finally found the courage to end it. farewell

91  2018-03-07 by [deleted]

Imagine growing up in a shitty inner-city neighborhood where you were blissfully unaware of any possibility at success beyond being a basketball player or a rapper; where all of your motivations were sapped from elementary school to where you are now, simply because you had no options, or at least could not see them at the time. Imagine being called ugly every day, having gum thrown in your hair, being called a nigger, a loser, a manlet, and a creep for simply being who you are; a shy, weak, hideous deformity- a mistake.

Imagine being betrayed by your mother, your grandmother, your female teacher, your female therapist - all who contributed to the decay of your mental capacities, who contributed to your inability to ace tests no matter how hard you studied, who told you time and time again that you were not worthy of achieving anything. Imagine knowing that it is your fault for being the failure that you are, and that no matter how many methods of self-harm you put yourself through, you will never achieve a fraction of what others could.

Imagine knowing that there are others worst off than you are; who managed to achieve their dreams and success whilst being infinitely better people to society than you will ever be. Imagine that twisting knife in your gut as you wonder why you can't be like them. As you search for the factors that made those who started lower than you rise to levels you couldn't even fathom. Why can't you be like them? What am I doing wrong? Entire months wasted in your bed crying yourself to sleep, wishing for anyone to help. But no one is going to help you. You are a low value man. You never mattered to anyone.

Imagine not being able to understand, either because you are too stupid or too ashamed to face reality, and instead finding solace in the emotions that are easier to cope with; anger and despair. Imagine directing that hatred out at all you think have wronged you. From the mother who allowed you to get molested, to the therapist who exploited your pain and lied, to the teacher who made you loathe yourself even more than you already did.

Now imagine finding a community full of people who thought similarly to you. Who you believed could understand even a fraction, or perhaps even more, of what you experienced. Ugly, low value men like yourself. Some come from better walks of life. Others come from nothing. You all have something in common. You all are unloved. You all are unworthy of love. It will never get better. It's over.

TL;DR: Dad's out for the night, have my noose drank half a bottle of vodka slit one wrist for extra measure. It was fun. Thank you to the old sub and this one for making it bearable for a time, but I'm going to be twenty in a month and I'm still a virgin. I'm not waiting for 25 or 30. I made a pledge and i intend to keep it. No one would care for a note irl so this is the one I'm leaving you guys if you ever want to read. Hope it gets better for you all.

882 comments

Good night brother. May your actions inspire us all.

RIP

Please don't. We're here for you, there are so many memes you still haven't seen with us.

RIP to the bro

but yeah I still havent seen Evangelion 4 and Monster Hunter World hasnt been released on PC yet. The memes pad the time

I hope you reconsider. 20 is so young. Even if you're poor, you can make it out with hard work.

MUH BOOTSTRAPS

Yes gut it out so Goldstein can finish the back payment on his fifth yacht

Fuck tou fat autistic whore.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

"hard work"

You know what Board? Fuck you. You know nothing of life.

r/im14andthisisdeep

I hate to say this, but I've read enough now to know that you're not wrong. Thing is, you need the opportunity, otherwise you're just spinning your wheels.

It's a shame, but it looks like OP didn't come close to finding that opportunity in time. He didn't want to wait.

OP, I really hope you read this and reconsider. I've been there, angry, frustrated, chip on my shoulder.

It will get better.

Get out stinky

I agree with you.

No use arguing with these people bro they put other incels down rather than trying to empower them.

pls don't, you're one of my favorite people. This shitty world will only be worse off with you gone.

Godspeed Brother, I hope I can find the courage like you to do it soon.

Suicide is cowardly and selfish, and all it does is destroy.

Real courage is finding a way to persevere and make things better, yourself included.

Don’t do it.

Shut up you fucking idiot.

No.

No one needs to die for this.

These deaths are on the hands of people like you who reject any effort to help people. Go fuck yourself, and then seek help too.

Shut up you stupid fucking cunt. Go die.

No.

And neither should you.

Seek help.

I already have seeked help. Thanks for your fake concern.

It isn’t working then. Find someone else. This attitude is unhealthy, and you’ve admitted you want to kill yourself.

Seek actual help. Don’t rest until you find someone who can help you feel better about you.

What the fuck is actual help?

Help that ends with you finding value in yourself, help that doesn’t keep your revolving your life around sex you are or aren’t having, help that gets you out of this spiral.

I'm not interested in whether or not I have sex.

Okay. And what about how you feel about yourself?

Sorry but I don't have the patience to deal with cocky white people. I'm not going to respond to you anymore. I don't need advice from someone who doesn't have mental illness and can't empathise with what it's like day to day.

I’m not being cocky, I’m trying to help you.

How do you know I don’t have a mental illness? What makes you think that anyone not from here doesn’t suffer? Everyone’s got problems, and pushing people away isn’t going to solve any of them.

Seek help. Please.

sorry to enter the conversation. I cannot know who you are or how you feel, but I believe in afterlife, and that if you commit suicide you are doing a mistake you will regret. If you are facing so much trouble it's because somehow it will make you learn from it, and you will be compensated afterwards, you just have to be brave and keep going. Something that helped me so much was learn about budhism and symilar ideas, master your mind and it will change your view. I would say thats a good objective and something I plan to do if everything else fails, go to fucking Nepal and work hard in improving my mind and myself. Good luck.

Such help doesn't exist.

Yes it does. Keep looking.

gas yourself, virtue signaler.

Telling someone to kill themselves in a thread where OP did just that. What a class act.

You're going to hell

Says the one who told me to kill myself.

Why don't you stop bullying people on the internet for a start?

Why don’t you?

Are you going to go over to the r/drama thread where they are mocking the OP or is it just Incels who are responsible for perpetuating the toxicity?

What?

ARE YOU GOING TO GO OVER TO THE r/DRAMA THREAD WHERE THEY ARE MOCKING THE OP OR IS IT JUST INCELS WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR PERPETUATING THE TOXICITY?

Read the thread on r/drama that has been linked. They are saying things like '1 less school shooter' and how Incels encouraging each other to kill themselves aren't a bad thing.

And they’re also shitty. That doesn’t make this toxic place any less shitty.

I think it does.

It doesn’t.

So why is it on us to not be toxic but not them?

It is on both. The difference is that this sub’s toxicity is being pitched as “for their own good”.

Lol of course it is.

You know what, fuck you and your double standards.

I just agreed that they have the same standard, what is the matter with you?

Lol of course it is.

You know what, fuck you and your double standards.

and it also doesn't make your fake and gay advice any less useless

You have spoken.

Congratulations. You sound like a ten year old.

Suicide is cowardly and selfish

Not exactly a great thing to say to someone who is suicidal. Does more harm than good. People on the brink need empathy, not to be told they're cowards.

No, they need help. This community tells people if they’re suicidal that that’s a good thing, and that’s horrific.

Yeah, I agree with that sentiment. I just dont agree that it's a good idea to tell extremely depressed people that they're selfish cowards.

They’re not, if they haven’t gone through with it. Persevering takes real courage.

You're preaching to the choir, dude. I just think your delivery needs work is all. Its typically not a good to kick people when they're already down.

If tough love actually cured depression, all these dudes would be happy as shit right now.

Its typically not a good to kick people when they're already down.

If tough love actually cured depression, all these dudes would be happy as shit right now.

Tough love just makes me hate more.

You sound proud of that. That isn’t healthy. Seek help.

No, no I fucking don't sound proud of that. Stop misreading us holy shit.

You seem eager to hate and push and isolate. So yeah, whether you consider it pride or not, that’s how you’re presenting yourself.

I suppose that’s true. Coddling them doesn’t seem to help much, I figure a jostle or two might disrupt the misery-go-round enough to give at least one person a different outlook, even briefly.

It doesn't. You're pissing fuel into the fire.

Yeah, I can tell by the fact this thread was posted by someone who killed themselves after all their time here that this community is doing just peachy.

You keep blaming this community for driving him over the edge. Did you fucking read the post?

Your tough love is literally just making the whole thing worse in turn.

How would you fucking know you arrogant prick. You don’t know what ANYONE else goes through and you’re not in a position to tell anyone what’s brave or not.

How would you know? You don’t know what I’ve been through either. The fact that you automatically assume I haven’t been to dark places myself says a lot about you.

I didn’t assume that fucktard

What a charmer you are.

Am I supposed to be charming you?

You’re doing a good job of explaining why you’re in r/incels v.3.

right next to you? yeah...... goddamn some ppl are dense

I’m not a subscriber here, dude.

just commenting fifteen levels deep with a bunch of idiot comments. keep thinking your special bitch, youre chatting me for a reason. your username should be ugldesi

Sick burn, bro.

Fuck off

No.

Fuck off you cunt. Suicide isn't cowardly or selfish at all you condescending bitch. Stagetail was hurting so much that his solution was to kill himself, and here you are victim blaming? You're a shitty person.

I'm not blaming Stagetail. I am, however, blaming Purge-Normies from learning nothing from it and considering it himself.

Fuck off you cunt.

What a charming person.

I'm not blaming Stagetail. I am, however, blaming Purge-Normies for learning nothing from it and considering it himself.

Yes you are. Claiming that suicide is cowardly, selfish and that all it destroys is textbook victim blaming. Suicide is an answer to our problems.

What a charming person.

Says the victim blaming wanker.

Agree to disagree.

Prove your statement.

Prove your statement.

Cowardice is running from your problems. Suicide is just that. Your turn.

Cowardice is lack of bravery. Not running away from your problems. Besides, suicide is a solution to our problems, it's not running away from them.

Cowardice is lack of bravery. Which is exactly why offing yourself instead of facing your problems is cowardly.

Which is exactly why offing yourself instead of facing your problems is cowardly.

Solving your problems, killing yourself is bravery. You're venturing into the unknown. Do you know how difficult it is for a person to kill themselves? We all have an immense will to live, managing to overcome this IS bravery. You're not a coward for killing yourself, you're doing something incredibly difficult. It's something very few people can actually go through with.

Very few people? No. 45,000 people kill themselves every year, in the US alone. That’s 120 people every single day. It is the 10th most common way to die in the country. It’s not special. It’s not brave.

45k people every year isn't a lot of people, lol.

To you.

Statistically speaking. 45k people out of 320 million isn't a lot.

To you.

Likewise. 45k is a lot to you, not to anyone else.

not to anyone else

Says who?

The stats.

The stats can tell you quantitatively what “a lot” is? That’s fascinating, you should inform the masses. See, where I’m from, statistics can be interpreted to means lots of things, yet “a lot” is a subjective measure.

Truly a groundbreaking discovery.

You're seriously brain damaged if you think that 45k deaths a year is a lot in a country with a population over 320 million. Suicide rate in the US is 10.3 per 100k people. That's not a lot.

You’re seriously brain damaged

You’re part of r/Braincels.

So are you.

Nope. Just showed up to this thread yesterday from elsewhere. This whole sub is brain damaged.

I'm sure you did.

I’m sure you did.

Check my comment history. Never been here before yesterday.

And yet you’re still here.

Because some “brain damaged” person keeps responding, suggesting that the leading cause of death that isn’t physical illness or accidental is “not a lot”.

Also good job going for personal attacks instead of arguing the case.

You referred to me as “seriously brain damaged” for not thinking 45,000 deaths a year (triple the number of gun deaths excluding suicide) is “not a lot”.

In short: you were the one who started hurling insults when I didn’t agree with your qualitative and subjective assessment of a number, so I guess you decided you lost if your own statement is what we’re going by.

Check my comment history. Never been here before yesterday.

I guess you haven't heard about the concept of alt accounts either. /s

Because some “brain damaged” person keeps responding suggesting that the leading cause of death that isn’t physical illness or accidental is “not a lot”.

You can ignore me, that's an option you know. I am telling you that 45k people isn't a lot, yet you claim that it is. Lol.

You referred to me as “seriously brain damaged” for not thinking 45,000 deaths a year (triple the number of gun deaths excluding suicide) is “not a lot”.

I didn't refer to you as a person. I used "you" as a collective, google definition of the word. I'm sorry if it confused you or if you took that as a personal attack, it wasn't meant to be. English is my fourth language, so it's not perfect.

Oh wow, you know 4 languages? What are they?

Suicide is an answer to our problems.

Suicide won’t get you laid, self-betterment will. But this culture disapproves of self-betterment and glorifies self-hate. You aren’t virgins because of some divine conspiracy, you are virgins because you want to be. Someone who escapes inceldom is labeled a “fakecel” or cuck, making it so nobody wants to. You get stuck in a pit of self-hate and stupidity, and it’s up to you to climb out.

Oh for fucks sake it's not just about getting laid...

Someone who escapes inceldom is labeled a “fakecel” or cuck, making it so nobody wants to.

No that's not what happens. We say that they've ascended. We don't call them fakecel a cuck, unless it's satirical.

You want someone to kill themselves? Say that to anyone suicidal and you just tripped them over, you useless piece of human garbage.

What part of "Don't do it." sounds like "Do it." to you?

From reading your replies in this thread I just want to say i think you're an awful person.

I appreciate it.

Are you a troll or....?

A little bit. I like to upset people who come here from the outside with their bullshit advice and platitudes.

It must've sucked to sit alone at lunch during high school. Is that the reason you turned out like this or is it because making people angry is the only way you know how to get attention from anyone?

I actually had friends in high school. Thanks for the snide insult.

holy crap a contributor here is sincerely intending to take his own life or has already taken it (tho i pray he hasn't) because of bullying and you say THIS!! will you people ever learn

Yeah, it's like they don't care if another suicide happens.

Man fuck these people. IT needs to go away for good.

this comment right here is why we don't like outsiders.

Yes sitting alone at lunch fucking sucked, you miserable asshole. Got any other questions or are you fucking done?

Yeah. What's it like knowing your life is wasted because you can't get over how pathetic your mindset is about it.

What's it like wasting so much time worrying about what other people talk about online?

I don't worry, I only give sympathy. You people literally celebrated a guy killing himself. I pity anyone who is that shitty of a person

No, Inceltears celebrated him killing himself.

Reading this made me tear up a bit, rest in peace brother.

He'll live on in our hearts. :'(

He only roped his account. He probably made a new one. Fakecels are fake.

That's what I would like to believe but you never know for sure if someone is really close to losing it.

I know I have been.

If you got really drunk and were going to rope, would you bother to delete your reddit account first?

As a closing gesture? Sure. It doesn't really mean anything but still.

I hope whatever you do makes you happy. Best of luck bro, I'm sorry you had to go out like that this.

Fuck dude, I hope you reconsider, you're still young, things didn't start to get better for me until 25

Manlet just flows off the tongue, I'm sure that this is real and kids use that insult all the time

Right it's definitely not possible they used a few different creative height-related insults and he just shorthanded them by saying manlet

Fucking dipshit.

Rest In Peace, See you on the other side

Deleted user now :'(

See you on the other side.

This is really fucking sad

Welcome to the sad reality of the life of an incel.

Wish it wasn’t so, wishing doesn’t do much though

if wishes were fishes the world would be an ocean

Or someone who is dealing with clinical depression, but this endless circlejerk of a sub has convinced itself was “incel”.

No shit, Most of us have mental illness. Can you stop stalking my post history now.

You’re the one replying to all my posts, guy.

Seek help.

You went through my post history and started commenting on my comments. You fucking loser.

Nope. I’ve only been in this thread, and you’ve been so inflammatory that I’ve been compelled to respond. I didn’t even know it was all one person until you brought it up.

This guy is fucking insane. Replying to my comments too.

Yep I knew it, More than enough proof. He indeed is fucking insane.

You are the most hated filled person I have ever encountered on the World Wide Web. So congrats on that mate.

Appreciate it.

DON'T! How old are you?? Things are hard when your young and discovering yourself. If you need an ear to listen let me know.

Go away.

Chill dude

They offered a comforting ear, what the hell is wrong with you?

The man is dead. Shut the fuck up cunt.

No.

Act like cancer, get treated like cancer.

Go away.

Eat shit.

brutal realitypill

Another win for IncelTards I guess.

I respect your decision and I hope you find peace. Say hi to St. Blackops2cel for me.

Femoids have blood on the roast flaps

unfortunately the blood won't be from any guilt they should be carrying, but it will be from after Chad is done anal with them.

Lol women have nothing to feel guilty about here

Nope! The blood is on your own unlovable hands. Women have nothing to feel guilty about here.

You should know when to shut up, that said I agree. This is just life. We can’t attribute anything tonwomen alone. With that as well said women and tone deaf women empowerment movements have been awful and handling lost men and boys. You all think you’re above the fray when you are deep in the fray.

Know your place, disgusting incel. Shit the fuck up. You’re worthless.

Well, if you weren't responsible for incel suffering before you are now.

It’s your own fault for being so despicable. You didn’t have to be this way, you just chose to. You chose to hate ALL women, though women did nothing to you. Now I choose to hate your guts and let you know how worthless you are every chance I get. I hope the suffering only gets worse for you. You’re worth less than the air you breathe, less than a dead cockroach, less than dirt.

not so worthless i gotta collect coins and ask what theyre worth. faggot.

No woman will ever love you. Take OPs example and end it.

Unlovable?

Your attitudes, personalities, ideologies, and inferior intelligence make you unlovable and completely undesirable to all, even your own mothers and fathers.

nope, if females weren't horrible Chad chasing thots this would not happen

Yes it would.

May St blackops2cel bless you and take you into his arms

Assalamualaikum my brother

Dude I know you deleted your acct but if you're still with us please don't do it. You are cared for and loved here if nothing else :(

Rip Stagetail.

Femoids claim another victim. When will we these whores learn to have any emotion. I am very angry right now. Some poor guy is dead because of them.

You cunts are all so oblivious to how the world actually works outside of your bubble. You deserve as much sympathy as you deserve embarrassment for how you assume what people think. I’m sure some of you have genuine, un-manageable reasons for this little fetish against people you don’t approve. The truth is tho that the longer you sit in this echo chamber of blame shifting and avoiding improvement - the longer your brain adjusts to thinking this way. You’re forging this mis-truth of how other people think and it’s so incredibly far from the truth that you can’t even comprehend that you’re wrong on a lot of levels.

You really do need to make reasons to love yourself , start loving yourself and then other people can’t start to love you. Know you think I’m just talking cheesy rhetoric but I came out of a very similar situation haha good luck anyone that reads this

Yeah, it was obviously women not having sex with him that's the problem, not any underlying mental conditions, no, that would just be silly and make sense.

Sex would have saved his life.

I doubt it.

I think human intimacy would have saved his life.

Yeah, but not exclusively sex, as others in this thread seem to think.

No not only sex. Human validation and intimacy. An integral part of this is skin to skin contact. Humans need it just like water to survive.

No, humans don't need skin to skin contact, they need socialisation with others, but you're not going to drop dead by forgoing physical contact.

You will develop mental illnesses.

Yeah, if you have no contact at all, not from having no physical contact.

Bye

No it wouldn’t.

No, sex can't do that. However, social acceptance, love, and affection can reduce or even turn around depression. But you can't force people to care about each other, and this society is permeated with selfishness and greed at all levels. We don't help and look out for each other as we should. People end up without support systems entirely, or at least without any social contacts whom they feel they can trust.

You have blood on your hands. Stop trying to justify your cruelty.

Yes, I, a white guy living in a different part f the world, am the cause of an Incel killing himself.

If you sent one of your cousins to marry him, then he would be happy.

Sure, if my cousin wasn't another human being with thoughts and emotions of their own, although why am I expecting you to see women as anything other than objects?

Women are not human. They evil and cruel. What has happened here is proof of that. Women are incapable of feeling emotion.

They're cruel because they don't like somebody that constantly calls them evil cunts? I see a glaring flaw in your argument.

We are like this because of how we are treated. Women's hatred for us came first and we then returned the favor by hating them.

So, break the cycle, if you hate them because they hate you, be the better person, you seem to think that you are already, so why not act as such?

You are so delusional. You cannot reason with femoids. They are incapable of showing emotion, they are like cold robots.

Stfu

And that's the type of attitude that causes everyone to shit on this whole community.

No we are shit on because we are ugly men. Women are treated so much better than us. You want to defend our oppressors. You take joy in our persecution. Do not be surprised when someone kills themselves.

You cannot deny it. He was a victim of female cruelty. Women like to inflict suffering on incels.

Women, like most people, will want to interact and form connections with people that are kind and understanding of them, now, most Incels don't seem to be the kind of people that act of this sort. It's not just about showering and wearing clean underwear, it's about understanding that they are also just human beings, like you and me. If you treated them as such, instead of shunning them and calling them cunts, then wondering why they don't want to interact with them, maybe they would want to. "Do unto others as they would do unto you."

WOMEN ARE NOT HUMAN BEINGS. I will never treat someone who persecutes me well. I am even more angry now because I have seen the evil that femoids can inflict on people.

Brain Consciousness Functioning body and circulatory system Intakes solids and liquids to power said body

These are the basics of a human being, which women possess all of, so, in the most basic sense, they are, your argument is massively flawed, and I sincerely hope you revaluate your thoughts.

Why should I reevaluate my thoughts. Women should fix their attitudes they are responsible for most of the suffering in the world.

You say they should fix their attitudes yet you don't even bother to evaluate your own, that is what you need to think about first, before you try to fix others, fix yourself.

I am a normal healthy person. I respect people, but women are not people. They are evil personified.

You made a post saying women nearly killed you, because while you were driving you thought of women and nearly crashed, if only you were as good at actual gymnastics as you are at the mental variant.

That was me getting angry at women. I am not to blame. Women are trying to harm me.

Lol sure.

I am not blame. If I had a wife, then I would not be as angry.

And if you weren't as angry, you'd have a wife.

This reaction is unhealthy. Seek help.

You need to seek help. Look what you have done.

What have I done? Please explain.

Woman could have saved his life. He was suicidal because of women.

He was suicidal because he had visible clinical depression that was not being adequately treated. Sitting around blaming women qualifies as “not adequately treating it”, too.

Sex doesn’t solve that. Therapy (and sometimes medication) does. There’s no shame in that.

Also, I’m not a woman.

Therapy is joke and should not be considered. Having sex is the best treatment.

Care to show your credentials? Because that is a dangerously incorrect thing to claim to anyone.

Depressed people having sex aren’t magically healed of depression. That’s not how any of this works.

That is how it works. That is why women do not get depression and why they do not commit suicide.

Holy shit, man.

Women absolutely can end up with depression, and they absolutely commit suicide. I have female friends who I’ve had to talk down from it before.

You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about, and you’re peddling lies to these people. Stop.

Women can have so much sex. They cannot be depressed unless she only wanted chad. She wanted to fake her suicide threats so chad would feel sorry for her.

Wrong, wrong, wrong, man.

Why would she say she was suicidal? There are no other options.

There are a million other options. People can be suicidal over nearly anything. Debt, heartbreak, random depressive episodes, it's not exclusively sex.

Those options are nowhere even close to the feeling of being denied sex. A feeling that not even can be explained. Worse than being in a concentration camp.

Good god, man. This is delusional. Seek help.

I have passed a psychiatric evaluation. I am a stable person. Women are the ones who need to seek help.

This is visibly untrue.

Do you know more than a psychiatrist? I am normal. You cannot handle the fact that the mad man is right. He looks like a mad man, but he is a truth speaker.

You are blatantly incorrect. Whoever is reinforcing that mindset is a shyster, a liar, or both.

You think you know anything? If I had a wife then I would have no reason to be angry.

That’s bull. And if you honestly think that, that’s even more proof that you need to seek real help.

It is not bull. I am entitled to a wife. I am more mentally stable then you. You are the one who needs help.

You are entitled to nothing. No one is.

I am entitled to a wife. I will get an arranged marriage. She will be bounded to me by blood. She will not be free until as long as I am above ground. We will only have sons.

You are entitled to nothing. No one is.

She will be bounded to me by blood. She will not be free until as long as I am above ground.

You sound like a monster.

We will only have sons.

Are you threatening to murder any daughters you have? Because it's a 50/50 shot and you have absolutely no control over the sex of your child.

I am a nice person. Women are the monsters. I am entitled to a wife because of how women have persecuted me. Also it is called gender selective abortion.

I am a nice person.

No, you aren't.

I am entitled to a wife because of how women have persecuted me.

You are entitled to nothing. No one is.

Also it is called gender selective abortion.

Confirmed: You are a fucking monster. I hope you're sterile.

Why do you wish for me to be sterile? I am entitled to have sons. Female children a plague on any fathers heart. Women have shown how evil they are. Why bring more evil into this world.

You are entitled to nothing.

I will get a wife and no one will stop me. I will be loved. I will also spread hatred because this world needs more of it. I will teach my sons to hate women. Hahahahahahahahahah.

I will be loved.

Not like this you won’t.

It does not matter. She can fake love me. That will be enough for me.

She won’t fake love you either. She’ll just resent you. And if this is what you plan to do to her, then that’s all you deserve.

Women will pretend to love a man, if it means she and her children are not starving on the streets. Women will do anything for their children and you can exploit that.

You have no soul. You deserve nothing.

I have a soul. I have emotions. I am a human being. I deserve a lot. A wife is what I am entitled to. A nice beautiful wife.

You are clearly sociopathic. You deserve nothing, and nothing is what you’ll get if you do not value human life.

You are abhorrent.

I am not a sociopath. I am a normal human. I can feel emotion unlike femoids. I will get an arranged marriage. Nothing can stop me. I will get my god given rights to a women. I will own her.

You are not normal. You are broken.

I wish you weren’t serious about this. If someone I depressed, it can likely be hormonal imbalances which medication can help with. Sex does not cure everything. If he was truly depressed, it was not because he couldn’t get sex. As much physical pleasures it may have brought him, it wouldn’t cure anything.

I thought you were a nice person. Why are you so mean now?

I’m not trying to be mean. I’m just letting you know how I feel about the issue. Depression is serious. Maybe sex would have improved his life slightly but I don’t think it would have helped as much as you believe. Truly, this does not come from meanness. I promise.

How come suicides are lower in countries where there are no incels. A chemical imbalance may be true, but it is not the only factor. He saw how women thought and he got very sad. When you swallow the blackpill a part of you changes.

I’m not saying that how women viewed him didn’t contribute to his depression. Not at all. He shouldn’t have had to experience any of the pain he went through. But I’m saying sex in particular was not the deciding factor here.

Also, do you really think there are any countries with 0 incels? Because if you say yes, I’d have to disagree.

You are probably the best female poster here. Inceltears are truly evil. We do not know what happened in his life. He said he has seen a therapist and it still resulted in this.

The countries with low suicide rates have close to no incels.

How do you know something like that? Was there a study about incels in other countries? Genuinely curious.

I’m not the best anything. But I agree that we don’t what happened in his life, and I’m sorry that you guys lost a friend. I know how hard that is. I wouldn’t wish such a hard life on anyone, and certainly wouldn’t want anyone to commit Suicide.

Most of the countries with low suicide rates are ones that have good weather and the men can get laid. Men make up most of the suicide victims.

Nothing really changes. People will forget this man existed. Then another suicide will happen and the cycle repeats. Most people pretend to care now, but soon after it is like he never existed.

Will you forget him? I don’t think so. I didn’t really know him, as I haven’t been here long. I think people will remember him, but it may not keep the cycle from repeating. The question to ask is how we can end that cycle. Because all I’ve seen for the most part is people encouraging Suicide and that scares me, tbh.

His suicide will become a distant memory. I am not really that fazed because I never had a personal connection with him and have never met him face to face. These things will continue and there is not much that can be done. The only suicide encouraging is the way females treat incels.

So how I am treating you, or treated you when we talked last is what is causing people to kill themselves? If people’s lives depend on who I am as a person, then I don’t think I’ll ever leave my house again. I’m not always 100% pleasant. I have bad days and I don’t want to say the wrong thing to someone. I don’t want to cause anyone pain.

I have never been depressed nor suicidal. I am saying that there will always be people kill themselves because they have failed in society and life. This user may have not gotten into university and was stuck in a dead end job.

I wish there was never a reason for anyone to even consider Suicide.

That will never happen. Some people will always end up killing themselves. It is just human nature I guess.

That is most unfortunate

Welcome to human nature. Right now as we type, something horrific is happening to someone somewhere in the world. You just have to accept it.

I don’t think I’ll ever just accept that. But I am aware of the horrific things that go on in the world.

Why will you not accept it? Are you concerned about everything bad in the world?

Because somethings can be helped. We can do at least some good somewhere in the world. It is not completely hopeless.

Most people have their own problems to deal with. I have my own issues in life I have to deal with to care about everyone else's problems.

I’ve never cared much for myself. Better to spend my time helping others.

At least you are trying to make a difference. This world is very cruel. Most westerners are very shielded. My dad tells me of the stuff he has seen while living in India. Those were some really ugly things.

I have family from Pakistan. I’ve heard stories too. Not pretty. I do want to help people, whether it’s by being a nurse, volunteering, being in the Army, I don’t really care as long as I can help.

Well that is good then. Wait you are Pakistani? Where did the green eyes come from. You look white.

I am white. Both of my parents are mostly Of German descent. My father’s aunt married a Pakistani man. They lived in Pakistan while she was alive. She died rather suddenly. He was the dean of a college I think. She was a nurse. They had three sons who all live here now. They are my father’s first cousins but we’ve always been a close family so I’ve just always acted like they were my first cousins as well.

I also have a cousin who is Japanese. 🤷🏼‍♀️

So you are not Pakistani. Your family is not muslim then. Do you support donald trump?

No, I am not Muslim or Pakistani. I’m sorry if I lead you to believe that.

Donald Trump... didn’t vote for him but I didn’t vote for Hillary either. I’d like for him to do some good but good is a relative term. I don’t have much hope for him.

You should move to Saudi Arabia. There is a lack of white women there and there is demand there. Also you can help people in Africa as it is literally right beside Saudi Arabia.

I don’t want to move so that I can be in demand. If I wanted someone or something I would look here first. But I don’t, I’m fine on my own. But I maybe go to Africa sometime soon. Haiti as well. My best friend is from there and she is going this summer.

Haiti is a very dangerous country. Saudi Arabia is much nicer. If you wanted to go see black guys, Saudi Arabia has like 20% black population. What do you even plan on doing there?

It’s not that I want to go see black guys. 🙄. We are going to volunteer at the orphanage that she grew up in.

Therapy is joke and should not be considered. Having sex is the best treatment.

Said the guy who has never had sex or went to college.

Sex makes life much better. Also yes I have not gone to college, I have gone to university.

Did you major in assuming shit about things you've never done before?

Your indifference killed a man

My indifference? Please explain.

You fucking retard

I have not said anything wrong. My anger for women grows.

I sincerely and from the bottom of my heart hope that you make it through this and find a good, happy life for yourself. Even if you don't, I'm proud that we were able to provide you with something resembling a support structure that eased your pain, if only a little, over the past few months.

This is legit making me cry and nothing on Reddit ever makes me cry. No one deserves to feel this much ceaseless despair. It's fucking horrifying.

You allow normies to come to this place of refuge and bully our most vulnerable users

True, he is actually partially at fault. Maybe if he had been modded instead of a brainless female, it would have been something to live for. Perhaps a normie told him to kill himself and it pushed him over the edge.

Irresponsible moderating of an environment with suicidally unstable men has consequences

he is actually partially at fault.

If the mods are partially at fault, then the rest of you are too for creating an incredibly toxic community that encourages depressed people to kill themselves. You can blame Chads, roasties, and Normans all you want but who are the ones that sit here and parrot the words "It's over," over and over again?

I mean, did any of you even reach out to this guy and tell him not to do it?

It was smart of him to kill himself, I'm envious of his courage. If I am partially at fault for him killing himself I take it as a compliment and if op could return to consciousness for just a moment to communicate with me, it would be nothing more than an exchange of gratitude and compassion.

You know what is toxic? Its arbitrarily optimistic people so vain and ignorant that they think they have superiority in criticizing another's choice to end his life.

If you're legitimately proud of encouraging someone to kill themselves, that is incredibly sad.

I'm not criticizing his decision. I empathize with him because I've attempted suicide before. And I realized afterwards that it was a huge mistake and that I could fix most of the problems that were making me so sad.

What I'm criticizing is y'alls reaction to it. Your total disconnect from the reality of what just happened. One of you even suggested he filmed it. It's just mind boggling.

I feel sad that this was the comminity he found solace in. He needed help. Not this.

3 Tylenol PM's a suicide attempt does not make.

I actually slit both my wrists. My mom found me before I bled out.

Sure you did kiddo

Lmao alright.

I'm not criticizing his decision.

He needed help. Not this.

By "this," I meant this community. Nice try though.

Saying he needs help is criticism

Not really, dude.

Facts aren't arguable

Its an opinion of yours and you vocalised it therefore it is criticism

Facts aren't arguable

Good thing you haven't stated any facts so far.

Its an opinion of yours and you vocalised it therefore it is criticism

That's not what a criticism is, man.

Saying he needs help is criticism

this is a fact

That's not what a criticism is, man.

defined: the expression of disapproval of someone or something based on perceived faults or mistakes.

Saying he needs help is opposing his decision and conveys disapproval of it.

Why do I have to assume the role of your English tutor? Just use your own head, the internet is at your disposal idiot.

Saying he needs help is criticism

That is not a fact. That's your opinion.

defined: the expression of disapproval of someone or something based on perceived faults or mistakes.

perceived faults or mistakes.

Please quote me where I mentioned OP's faults or mistakes. The only comment I made directly to OP was "Please dont kill yourself." That's a request, not a criticism.

The only people I've criticized are you and the other people in this thread who are celebrating the loss of one of your own.

I just explained why its a fact:

Saying he needs help conflicts with his decision and therefore conveys disapproval of it.

You said: He needed help. Not this.

How many different ways do I have to rephrase it?

By suggesting he needed help, you are implying that killing himself was the wrong decision

How many different ways do I have to rephrase it?

You can rephrase it as many times as you want. It's still not a fact. It's your opinion. It's your own interpretation of what I was saying.

Saying someone needs help is not a criticism. It's a suggestion, if anything.

No wonder you ignored the rest, stay grammatically delusional

It's a suggestion, if anything.

By suggesting he needed help, you are implying that killing himself was the wrong decision

Suggestions aren't inherently criticisms though. What you're saying is that just because I suggested he needs help, I'm criticizing him. That is incorrect.

You can keep stating your opinion though, I won't stop you.

Its criticism because the suggestion conflicts with his action i.e. suicide. One must be alive to seek help.

He needed help

needed

Needed, in English, implies past tense. The action already occurred, and, obviously, being suicide, cannot be undone.

You are suggesting help would have been a superior decision as opposed to suicide - criticism.

Speaking of help, I suggest you get some for your malfunctioning brain.

That is criticism to your intelligence if you couldn’t tell

Its criticism because the suggestion conflicts with his action i.e. suicide. One must be alive to seek help.

You're literally just inventing shit now lmao. I'll say it again, all of this is your opinion. You're entitled to your opinion, but it's still wrong. You're gonna tear your rotator cuff reaching this hard, my guy.

Btw, none of this absolves you of your part in encouraging this dude's suicide. Just in case you didn't realize.

What’s inventive about it? Suggesting something contrary to another’s actions implies that you know better than him. This is criticism. I already taught you the definition, but look it up if you like.

I don’t feel a desire for absolution. My mind exceeds traditional morals.

What’s inventive about it?

Your whole argument. You're digging deep into grammatical semantics (that aren't even correct btw) to try and put us on the same moral level and justify your own behavior/viewpoint. It's an ego defense mechanism. It's been pretty interesting to watch tbh. You dont normally meet people this deep in denial in the wild.

My mind exceeds traditional morals.

That's awfully convenient lol.

You don’t understand what criticism means even when defined for you

Nah, I understand what a criticism is. You're just making innane shit up to try and make what I said fit into the definition of criticism. But it doesn't. You can keep trying though if you want.

Suggesting him to have gotten help implies disapproval of him killing himself. That is not an opinion and it is definitively what criticism means within the context. Not to mention that words in the English language are contextually based.

Fucking retard you’re really pissing me off. I’m finished wasting time with stubborn little morons like you; I’m not being paid enough to teach special education. Go slit your wrists again you spineless emo.

Hahahaha that's still not a criticism dude. You just think that because you're a hypersensitive individual and it's warped your perception. It's ok though. I ain't mad at yah. I just feel bad for you tbh. I hope you find a way to heal that pain you're feeling.

Suicide is not courageous. This mindset is toxic, and this community fosters this unhealthy attitude.

Suicide might be considered selfish because it affects others, but to the victim, it's sweet relief. It's like morphine, that numbs the pain forever. If ending life is the only option to stop the pain, then I wouldn't withhold that right from anyone.

And honestly think for a second about this, the act of suicide is extremely difficult and takes a lot of resolve.

Heroin addicts feel “sweet relief” on their fix, too. Is that a good thing?

nope, but then again I think most if not all drugs should be legal and free to use.

So if “it feels good” isn’t a valid reason to do something, why are you using that to excuse suicide?

"It feels Good" wasn't my main point in regard to specifically suicide. If an individual person feels they are past of no point and suicide is a sufficient way to end the pain of their lifetime of suffering, I believe it is well within their individual right and reason to take their own life.

From a more emotional standpoint (What my first comment was written from), If it numbs the pain that is completely unbearable, its a coping system I'm not against. Suicide doesn't cause the same societal harm drugs do (Especially when it comes to their network system and sales).

Suicide is not courageous.

I suppose you can prove for certain what happens after death then, because otherwise suicide is willingly stepping into the unknown.

Your body decomposes.

Ah another leddit level 10 atheist

Atheism is just as naive as religions are

Agnostic, actually.

then you should fear death and rationally so

It makes me uncomfortable, sure.

Exactly, then don't say it's cowardly. Suicide is one of the bravest things you can do.

Would you willingly kill yourself? I didn't think so.

You guys downvote this guy and deny what he says all you want but this is the truth pf the matter. You pretend like you dont contribute to the negativity and suicidal tendencies and immediately look for a black sheep to blame as if you aren't a major factor behind it. Some of you need to grow up plain and simple. Accept the world for what it is and move on. Stop complaining and put any modicum of effort into making this the best life you can at least have.

It's ok. They're men.

Debatable

Have you read the comments? At all? It's a bunch of incels telling him "Go in peace" again and again and again and again rather than actually trying to fucking help him. Look at the comments below. The person who commented just below you literally states that it was a smart thing for him to off himself. It's completely toxic.

We are like him, we dont like being alive. Maybe in a way its like a happy ending, for the pain to stop, we all want pain to stop.

Your virtue signaling is meaningless because you allow people to come in here and bully incels like this one. You contributed to his suicide through your inaction.

Do everyone a favor and kick u/iQ9k’s ass for suggesting u/Stagetail should be proud of killing himself, thanks.

Honestly though, what are the arguments against suicide if you’re not doing well? It’s just to not hurt others by your loss and not to give into the suffering, to see the hope. What hope tho

Honestly though, what are the arguments against suicide if you’re not doing well?

Just because you're not doing well currently doesn't mean you wont do well in the future. Things almost always get better. Unless you have a terminal, debilitating disease like brain cancer or something, there are always better options than suicide.

cope. there's no end to inceldom

Not with that attitude

All that sounds very close to gambling.
"Just because you're not winning now, doesn't mean you never will. Just try one more time…". And meost people don't consider gambling a healthy habit. Why should gambling for a better life be a valid argument then?

Did you hurt yourself also? Did this guy's suicide have anything to do with it?

Rest in peace.

See you in the next one

God damn, I had no idea that Stagetail had it this bad. RIP big guy.

me too , he always sounded like a fun guy...

Same. RIP Stage. This is very depressing to see.

RIP bro, hope ur more lucky in the next genetic lottery. :(

A long time incels poster, I remember reading some of your comments on the original subreddit on my old account, though I never got to know you very well (I wish I had). Part of me hopes you're still alive, but if you're not then rest easy.

Damn I was a virgin until 20 as well. It’s really not that big of a deal.

That's really the wrong way to go about it. You can't just deny the guy's pain and say that it doesn't matter.

I don't think he's saying the guy's feelings don't matter, just that being a virgin at 19 is very common and not a reason to kill yourself.

Yeah exactly. A lot more are than you think.

Loneliness and depression caused by it are very real reasons to kill yourself.

Again, not saying his feelings don't matter, but he was barely over the average age at which people tend to lose their virginity. It's not as if he'd endured a long life of crushing loneliness, he was just a kid.

Depression can be treated. Resorting to suicide because you haven't gotten laid by 20 is pretty extreme, don't you think?

I’m saying. The salt on this sub is real. It’s totally normal and it just feels like an overreaction.

no retard. you don't understand depression, do you?

You apparently don’t if you don’t think their explanation is rational.

i don't care about their explanation, if he really committed suicide, then i gotta show some respect, not type some bs.

Suicide is not worthy of respect.

k kiddo. go do your homework.

What is that limp remark supposed to mean?

Unless there were other problems as well, which was probably the case.

Oh yeah, his post made it clear he'd had a shitty life. It all compounds. Just the way his conclusion - for lack of a better term - was worded made it seem like he'd sworn to kill himself if he was still a virgin at 20, which in turn makes it seem like that was the primary trigger event.

I’m not saying he’s wrong to feel pain. I’m just saying I don’t think it’s anything to be ashamed of.

It wasn't just that he is a virgin. He was treated poorly because of his appearance. He was also molested as a child. Sounds like there were abuses happening.

Learn to read. Learn to empathy.

That's what you take from his post? Fuck off.

I will gladly.

To be fair, the only reason he gave in his TLDR, which is the summary of his post, is that he was 20 and a virgin. If he wanted to highlight a bigger reason he would’ve said so in the summary, but clearly he was most concerned about not getting laid. That’s why I took that away. And I think it’s a lame reason to kill yourself. Sue me. I was just trying to say I don’t think it’s anything to be ashamed of. And I will gladly fuck off from all the negativity here.

I wish I had the courage OP did.

You guys live in the US. Can't you do anything instead of saying "RIP" ? Couldn't you ask the admins to track down the IP and call the police ? Your attitude is horrifying, you just don't give a shit do you.

I'm sure bullying on cuck tears helped drive him away from suicide. Fuck off and how dare you.

/r/inceltears already celebrating this, fucking sick.

Link?

The post must've been deleted. Jesus

And they call US degenerates

It shows they're just as bad as their potrayal of incels.

I like how typical IT bullies like u/mragggan are strangely absent in threads like this.

I was asleep, sue me.

I have a job that I have to go to, which requires sleep beforehand or people could get hurt.

It's the top post of the sub right now, and you've been posting on this sub for hours now (today).

I'm not saying that you're obligated to post here. But if you're strangely present in every single thread that fits your agenda (incels are literal devils) and conveniently absent in every thread that doesn't (incels are troubled people who need support, not a bashing), then I'm gonna question it.

I’ve been at work. I can reply quickly, before work, when I’m on smoke break, and during lunch.

That’s it.

By the time I saw his post, he’d already deleted his account. There was literally no point in throwing my .02 in, because he’s technically not there.

(I say technically because for all any of us know, he could be lurking on another account.)

He really offed himself. He was thinking about suicide since last month. Females are to blame for this. They could literally save lives if they have sub 9/10 males a chance but they’re too picky.

You can’t know that unless you physically know him.

True but incels endure a lot. It’s more likely he offed himself than not. I am likely going to do the same in the next few months. I’m tired of this shitty subhuman life all because of my genetic recombination.

If every female will only go for a 9/10 male, shouldn’t there be more lonely females?

don't trust a woman u cunt

yet another life taken by female selection

Females, look what you've done

Yeah, Agna the one legged 68 year old $2 street whore downtown last night, I hope you are very pleased with yourself.

Females, look what you've done

I hope you don't go through with it man. You're worth far more than you imagine. It does get better. I know. We'll get through with this together man. I hope you come back.

Too bad this is so far down

Sounds to me like you have had some significant trauma in your life and I'm sorry you went through any of it. I hope you won't go through with it.

Downvotes for this? What the fuck is wrong with people in this sub? It sounds like people here wanted this guy to kill himself because anything suggesting otherwise gets downvoted into oblivion. To me it makes perfect sense why none of Braincels gets laid.

They're extremely bitter with a huge inferiority complex. They're going to romanticize this guy's suicide because it's so "noble". Any "normie" that comes and tried to help gets told to fuck off. It's insane

Why exactly are either of you here, then?

Curiosity. I think it's very wrong and mean that Reddit lashed out at r/incels, so I like to lurk from time to time to really just see why. The psychology of this sub is very interesting

They're extremely bitter with a huge inferiority complex. They're going to romanticize this guy's suicide because it's so "noble". Any "normie" that comes and tried to help gets told to fuck off. It's insane

Sounds incredibly interested right there.

Was that an inaccurate observation?

Have you seen the comments on some of the downvoted threads here? Users like Purge-Normies are continually lashing out at people that are literally just telling a human being not to kill himself

Was that an inaccurate observation?

Somewhat. You're completely ignoring why it's like that in the first place and you shit on them for it.

Have you seen the comments on some of the downvoted threads here?

Indeed. What do you expect from suicidally depressed people (some of whom are hateful) that have been alone and rejected all their lives? Telling them "it gets better, don't do it" is hilariously counteractive to what it's supposed to achieve.

Users like Purge-Normies are continually lashing out at people that are literally just telling a human being not to kill himself

And that is perfectly within his right to do so, given that he can most likely relate to OP.

I don't mean to be dismissive of OPs pain. I think this post is painful, it's really sad and I'm truly sorry for him and his life. Nobody should have to deal with anything that he described in his post. Especially from family, people that put their children down shouldn't be allowed to have them. It's disgusting.

I really hope he didn't go through with it. I get and completely understand that statements like "Oh it'll get better!" are counterproductive. But counterproductive to what, exactly? To not making him feel better? To keeping him alive? I just don't see how martyrizing his death is MORE productive than trying to help, even if the "help" is laughable and very surface level.

Counterproductive to the situation of them being suicidally depressed. Statements like that drive them further inward, they don't make them feel better.

It isn't, but then again this is their space. Trying to help when it's surface level and laughable is....well, laughable, and not helpful either.

Go suck a dick tbh

Ppl here dont like platitudes coming from outsiders. You guys are part of the problem as you come here to insult but all of sudden you decide to virtue signal when its convenient.

Condolences are bad? What is wrong with you?

Condolences coming from certain ppl are bad.

Otherism is bad. Sympathy is good. Seek help.

Learn actual empathy. Sympathy is cheap.

Keep pushing people away, and you’ll end up like OP. That’s no way to go.

Why do you do this to yourself?

Why do you purposely evade and twist my words? Why are you purposely obtuse? Where's Waldo?

You’re embarrassing yourself. And you’re doing it over someone offering condolences. It’s time to stop now.

My condolences to your lack of empathy.

See, the initial condolences were sincere, and now you’re mocking them with sarcasm.

Are you seeing the problem here yet?

That person actually wants incels to kill themselves. She/he is using psychological manipulation to make us do something other than what she/he tells us to do

Not true. I can relate to the problems he's had. I don't want anyone to kill themselves.

listen, your antagonism here doesn't help. I've gone from on the fence about this shit, to sticking with inceldom out of pride because of your attacks here. Trust me when I say you guys are just cunts that want us dead and know really well how to accomplish that

You guys say crazy shit here and I can't imagine there's any possible way someone could actually believe any of it. Shit like women have a duty to alleviate your problems by having sex with you. Or that you're subhuman and aren't meant to be here or have sex, Chad/Stacy, etc. My "attacks" are a reaction to that absurdity. Maybe someone could recognize the mental gymnastics that goes on around here. It's definitely not meant to push anyone to suicide. You guys seriously encourage others to kill themselves outright, talking about going to Valhalla or some shit but say we want you to die. It's so weird.

You can say I'm a cunt but you can't assume I want you dead. I understand suicidal thoughts and I really felt for the guy, that's all.

just leave us the fuck alone. your attacks don't do anything. they don't convince us, they just bring us stress and drives us closer to death. stay if you want to kill us, you're doing a good job

I guess. Why can't we stay though? Even when we're nice you still hate us. You even hate when we encourage you to seek some help for what's clearly severe depression. That's an act of caring, not attacking. Does that also make it worse?

no, it just raises our stress and drives us closer to the end

personally:

incel shit = suicide ideation

normie shit = suicide

don't be such an attention cunt, just fucking move on and enjoy the blessed life you've been given

Ugh I'm not an attention cunt I'm just another person on Reddit.

stay if you want to kill us

Canonize this man

Uhm. 20 and still virgin? Lmao that's quite normal. Mnay people are virgins in their twenties.

No it's not normal. Now fuck off.

Was that necessary?

Yes, Fuck off.

Fuck yourself you melon.

Calm down normie

Fuck off.

Lol

It's normal in conservative countries. Like most of Asia. Considering losing your virginity pre marital will get you outcast from society.

It is. Stop watching so much TV.

I was almost 19 when I lost my virginity, it is not that big of a deal and not worth revolving your life around. The pedestal this community puts sex on is unhealthy to the point of obsession.

I don't watch tv.

Could have fooled me.

The “everyone’s getting laid in high school!” shit is a pretty severe and mostly false stereotype.

Thank you.

Yes it is.

Seriously lmao at least half of the people I know lost their v at 20+, especially men
Inceldom makes a lot more sense when you realize it's just high schoolers

if you kill yourself then you are no longuer my friend because you hurt me deeply, please don't go...

You selfish POS

Go in peace brother. Go in peace.

I hope you don't end it. Seeing stuff like this hurts, no one there are people out there that hope fell short of. If you do it, here's hoping it's fast and easy. If you don't, then I hope it's more than worth it.

This is so fucking brutal and sad. Another brother who took it upon himself to find eternal peace from this senseless misery and suffering. One shot at life and it ends like this, this is the grim fate for most of us incels, i hope the process was as painless as it could be. Find solace in the fact that it's all over, no more struggling in this useless existence.

This is true, this is most of our destination. We need to find the courage like stage did, he will forever be in my heart until I do

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All those niggas should be saints

Legit crying rn.

remember OneDayMorePlease

Know_What_Fuck_This isn't dead. He is fuckitidunno and the few times I've seen him here he was trolling and insulting incels.

Ffs. Hire a hooker man. Its not that hard.

Fuck man.

That's a terrible comment and you had the fucking nerve to sticky it.

Yeah, what a total piece of shit mod...

What the fuck are you even talking about. You mean cunts like you telling his problems are a figment of his imagination and that they don't matter? Fuck off. Of course idiots like you come in spewing platitudes after the fact while bullying lonely depressed people all day.

Clinical depression isn’t a figment of the imagination. It requires actual psychological help, not this abyss, especially when it has mods applauding suicide.

You disgust me

Why?

And some people literally are in a position where there's no way out. Who the hell are you to tell someone what they want to do with their lives?

No one is ever in a position where there is literally no way out. Sometimes it just takes more work than others.

Who the hell are you to tell someone they have no other option?

I didn't tell him anything. I just hate the platitude that suicide is selfish and think of everyone you're leaving in pain. That is fucking horseshit. They're basically guilt tripping you into not caring about your feelings so that they don't have to feel an ounce of pain or remorse. That's saying think of all of us, even though it's fairly obvious nobody's thought of him throughout his entire life.

Clinical depression can make you feel that way even when it’s not true.

Guilt-tripping a suicidal person to stay for others is still shitty.

I’d rather be shitty and possibly save a life than be smug and let someone die.

That person is in pain, you really don't care about that person. You don't know them, you're not going to live with them under the same roof. Why are you being so astoundingly hypocritical?

Who said I don’t care about them? Since when do you have to know someone personally to not want them to die?

Who said I don’t care about them?

Oh please, don't insult my intelligence. You've met these people on the Internet, you know nothing about them but you still try to play saviour. Do you know the extent of their problems? Do you know how they suffered if they killed themselves?

I repeat:

Since when do you have to know someone personally to not want them to die?

You ignoring the context in favour of virtue signalling.

Please, just for once, be truthful with yourself and say that you feel nothing for that person and you just want your social brownie points.

That would be a lie, so no.

So who's responsible for his life? It ain't you or me bud. There's nothing anyone could have done if he came to that decision. He tried to cope as much as he could but.

What would you have done?

Listen and try to help, instead of reaffirming the idea that no one cares.

reaffirming the idea that no one cares.

But I'm not doing that? You are the one acting like all of us are heartless when in reality none of us know what to fucking do.

The least we are doing is listening. And you? What are you doing?

You admit you don’t know what to do, then cuss people out for doing something.

So what are you doing?

don't insult my intelligence

Said the guy whining about how suicide is good.

whining about how suicide is good.

You mistook me for a man in your head.

Only a moron condones suicide, pal. Nothing is worse than infinite void, including your shitty social life you fucking crybaby.

Only a moron condones suicide, pal.

Again, you're mistaking me for a man in your head.

Nothing is worse than infinite void, including your shitty social life you fucking crybaby.

Buddhists would disagree on the "infinite void" part.

Lol why are people like you so shitty?

So is applauding suicide.

Mistaking me for someone else?

Nope.

I had the woman who gave birth to me tell me as an adult that one of her two biggest regrets was having me as a son because her dealing with me getting picked on every day in school and going to my soccer games to watch me ride the bench wasn't what she signed up for as a mother. And this was even though I was an honors student and had Chad friends, job at 16, full ride to college etc. You want to tell me that was the result of "clinical depression". And I had it good. I can easily see how others can indeed have it that bad, to where they have nobody to turn to. That's not clinical depression. That's either the worst luck ever and/or awful circumstances. You have no right to tell someone to push through that to placate your feelings.

mods applauding suicide.

Literally where?

If you've done it, you could at least have pride in the fact that you were brave enough to go through.

Botched suicide attempts are even worse because not every family is loving and understanding.

People who tried and survive usually feel how family members distance themselves from them. Can't blame them but can you blame those people that they try again?

Yes.

What do you mean "yes"? Who the fuck gives you the right, you fucking robot?

You asked a question. I answered. Sorry you didn’t get the answer you scripted for me in your head.

I acknowledge your answer but still despise you for it.

That’s an extreme reaction to my one-word answer.

Sorry you didn't get a reaction you scripted for me in your head.

No, this is pretty much what I expected out of you. It doesn’t mean I’m not disappointed, though.

Glad I was able to disappoint your hypocritical ass.

standard mod behavior tbh

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From my point of biew, the mod didn’t encourage anything. Suicide takes bravery. It is a noble way out, depending on the culture. The mod was just explaining that fact. The stigma against self-termination must end.

Some people can take care of sick animals, or volunteer at homeless shelters... but you seem like you are in a rush to just contribute nothing to society and go to sleep forever.

How is it terrible?

He's glorifying suicide like it's some act of great courage and bravery.

But it does take balls to kill yourself. It's only glorifying if you think anything that takes courage to do is by definition positive. I really don't see how it's glorifying suicide unless you're glorifying courage itself

You know what takes even more balls? Being alive and facing the day every day.

no, living is the default state of every being. that's like saying it takes balls to breathe

You will die eventually. And then you’ll be dead forever. As you were for billions of years before and billions of years after.

Killing yourself is out of fear of being alive. It is the more cowardly act. A person kills themselves because they can’t “take” whatever it is, or they are too afraid of facing whatever they did.

Killing yourself is out of fear of being alive.

no, you do it because you don't want to live due to emotional pain. you're just making baseless claims to rationalize suicide shaming. why do you talk about things you know nothing about? I bet you also don't think you're a piece of shit because you parrot "suicide bad and cowardly, shame on you". you have zero empathy

“...because you don’t want to live due to emotional pain.” So, then, you’re saying it’s harder to be alive. You don’t want to live because you’re afraid of your emotional pain. The fear of being alive.

So what takes more courage? Dealing with the emotional pain, or killing yourself?

not wanting to experience pain is fear? not wanting to keep your hand in a fire is due to fear? your mental gymnastics to spin suicide into an act of cowardice are delusional

This isn’t about empathy or suicide shaming.

of course it is. you're obviously attempting some kind of "tough love" approach which doesn't work and is just used by assholes to justify being assholes under the facade of """"helping"""". also good to see you confirm not ever being suicidal. you're just a sanctimonious, know-it all piece of shit who derives sadistic pleasure from shitting on suicidal people, despite never having been in their situation. the fact that you think this has nothing to do with empathy is telling. what do you think you're actually doing? do you think you're helping? do you actually think someone who is suicidal being told he is a coward will react in any way but negatively? you probably do, because you've never been in their shoes, which goes back to the whole empathy thing which you lack

So what takes more courage? Dealing with the emotional pain, or killing yourself?

going against your strongest instinct and biological will to live sure takes more courage than living another day in apathy or misery. you don't get brownie points for waking up every day. going against every fiber in your body which instinctually tells you to survive takes way more effort and courage than not doing so. you don't applaud a fish for swimming.

Your victim mentality is showing.

your sadism is showing. you're an arrogant ignoramus trying to rationalize being a piece of shit. I don't care for your tough love approach, shove it up your ass and fuck off.

Take out ad hominems and your argument boils down to one sentence. Call this number: tel:1-800-273-8255

This isn’t about empathy or suicide shaming. Stay on topic: does it take more balls to kill yourself or deal with your life? Your victim mentality is showing.

To override one's survival instinct takes resolve. Who the fuck are you to judge?

Just because it's difficult doesn't make it brave or the right thing to do

Who the fuck are you to judge?

I was suicidal for a good stretch of time but I got help before I could hurt myself

Yeah, I don't believe you not a single bit.

Kinda weird, but that's fine

Considering the nature of your visits to your sub - no, I don't believe you at all. You can be everything and everyone on the internet.

That reasoning is pretty dumb.

Can you address its' flaws or can you just scoff?

You're saying that because I think this sub is trash that must mean I could never have been suicidal or depressed?

No, because I consider you an unpleasant person based on what I saw of you in this sub.

And because of that I could never have been suicidal? That's equally stupid

You could've been but this is the Internet. The veracity of your claims can't really be tested, can they?

I'm sorry that you were in pain though if what you're saying is true.

I appreciate that last part of your comment at least.

Double negative right there

Corrected, thank you.

No problemo

Holy shit, what is wrong with you.

Probably not enough people ask him this but in a non-condescending tone. It's fucked up.

What a sad existence this mod must live.

There's nothing wrong with this comment. You can always spot the fakecels in the suicide threads. Fuck all of you cunts. Im with him

Romanticizing suicide is very literally harmful.

Who cares?

Friends & families of suicidal people, for one.

Who cares x2?

They do.

Who cares x3?

I answered this already?

And what real difference would you have made in his life?

We won’t know now, because this toxic community cultivates and nurtures suicidal tendencies.

More like the way life and human nature are happen to make life hell for the bottom-tier males. That's not necessarily wrong, but you have no right to tell them what they can or can't do with their lives, especially considering you've never lived it.

bottom-tier males

If you seriously subscribe to this mindset, you are just as bad as the “chads” you think are out to get you.

I’ve been a fat guy my whole life, didn’t get my first kiss until I was 18, and I’ve always been convinced that I wasn’t smart enough or skilled enough or handsome enough to get what I wanted out of life. I was every ounce the stock depressed loner nerd.

Now I’m 30, I’m living healthier, I’m in a long-term, committed relationship with a woman I just moved in with, and I spend my time working on personal projects I love. I’m not where I want to be yet, but I’m well on my way.

There are no tiers. There’s just you, and what you want to be. It takes hard work to get there, and some people don’t like that. They think “chads” just wake up ripped and charismatic, or they think “I need a pity _____”, whatever fills in that blank, and they start looking for any external force to blame.

The world doesn’t owe any of us anything, it’s up to us to earn it. But that also doesn’t mean doing it alone. Sometimes all it takes is having someone listen to what’s got you down, or even just hearing out their frustrations in general, to give someone a bit of relief and help them get through the day.

The key is framing it in a way that helps you better yourself, not stay in the same place. If you’re miserable and you do nothing to improve your situation, is it really a surprise that you end up still feeling miserable? Cheering on suicide as something “brave” or something to be “proud” of is horrible. There were so many ways this guy could have been helped, but people like u/iQ9k like when it happens, because it reaffirms their worldview that this is the inevitable end.

It’s not.

What the fuck type of blue-pill bullshit is this. There are always tiers. Tiers in high school with whom sits with whom for lunch. Tiers in college with whom parties with whom. Tiers at work. Tiers in your neighborhoods with whom can afford what houses.

I was a virgin until 23, went through a 4-year dry-spell and then only after deciding to bulk by spending $150 a week on food and supplements despite already having a soccer, 6-pack body, did I get anywhere with women. And then surprise, all of the stuff that people told me would matter in place of looks but didn't, like my intelligence, sense of humor, athleticism, etc. took me from incelibate to semi-slayer. That is jumping tiers, you asshole.

And my best friends are all 6'2" white Chads. You think there's something out there that can transform my 5'8" brownie ass into that? That if I work hard enough, I can get there? Fuck off.

And you can't even see that you had a base to start with that allowed your improvements to pay off. Some of these people don't even have that. You see that Lakers' girl thread? Those guys have 0 hope. But you're gonna sit here and spew platitudes that because it worked for you, everyone else just needs to pull themselves up by "muh bootstraps" and they can make it too. Newsflash, the world isn't fair. And if someone wants to exit this world becauase they feel like they can't win, that's their right. You don't get to tell them to stay around just to make yourself feel good.

Fuck you.

Self-defeatist excuses in paragraph form. It’d be impressive if it wasn’t all bullshit.

No one prevents you from being better but you. Stop blaming other people and grow the fuck up.

I did, you dumbass. Masters in engineering, moving in with my g/f next month, sports car. Was vice-captain of my soccer team. The key is understanding not everyone will have the same experiences that I have and to empathize with that, you shithead.

Yeah, except I did "grow the fuck up" and I have everything I want in life. Understand that not everyone is as fortunate as you and I, you piece of shit.

Probably smart to delete your comment about the master’s degree and the sports car, since it makes you look like a cocky asshole and pretty seriously undermines the point you’re making in this brand new reply.

Are “you dumbass” and “you shithead” parts of your key empathy? Seems like you’re somewhat lacking in that department.

I started with nothing, and I’ve been working off student loans for years. Anyone can do it if they try and they seek out positive support structures.

Yes, anyone can become anything they want if they just work hard enough. Fucking delusional. Intelligence, looks, physical ability has nothing to do with it.

Were you bullied at school? Did you have a tough relationship with your parents?

I was bullied, and ended up being friends with the group that was essentially the outcasts.

Relationship with my parents was strained, when they separated when I was 13 and divorced when I was 16.

Okay, so would you tell an openly suicidal person to 'grow the fuck up'?

You come at me with hostile, immature bullshit, I’m not handling you with kid gloves.

I wasn't talking about me you moron. You can be as nasty as you want to me, I don't care.

fuh fuh fuh 🤪

Its normies.

What the fuck is wrong with you? Applauding suicide? Seriously, go fuck yourself you piece of shit. Fucking having the nerve to sticky this. The fuck outta here.

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It's not brave. It's sad. Sad because this person could've found the help they needed to prevent this from happening but something that should've happened didn't happen

Of course it's sad. No one is saying it isn't

Calling it brave implies it was the right choice and one people should look up to. It isn't

Okay well tell me where people are saying this isn't sad

I never said people were saying it's not sad. Didn't even imply it. You're missing the point pretty severely

I think you're lacking critical thinking and writing skills pretty severely

So you're just going to ignore the point of my comments because you know they're true? Very professional mod behavior btw /s

Can you explain to me what you're point was again because like I said, your writing skills arent the best

Ok, one more time and I'll type it out as simply as possible.

Calling it brave implies it was a good decision. A mod doing so on a sub full of sad and depressed people is fucked up and stupid.

Nobody wants more suicide, just like how no one really wants more abortions, but if OP really did go through with it, then he finally got what he wanted. I was not trying to imply that it was a good decision though I do see where you are coming from.

If you really do want to help people in this sub and prevent more suicide, sticky a suicide prevention hotline phone number in this sub.

I will bring this up with the other moderators.

Good, I hope you do 😊

Probably should've brought up that stupid comment too lol

what you're point was

your writing skills arent the best

What a fucking hypocrite.

lmfao

You in your stickied comment dumbass lol

You really are a piece of shit, aren't you?

Bravery has nothing to do with the validity of the action – moral or logical or any other type of validity.

You’re mental for glorifying it.

You really are a piece of shit, aren't you?

You're a fucking personification of hell, you fucking piece of trash. What qualified you to be a mod? I'd have liked to brain you with a piece of mining equipment if I ever got to meet you irl.

A guy just probably killed himself, and the response you had was "well at least you had the guts to do it"

Glorifying suicide or not, you just literally felt glad about his ability to go through it, also while heavily inebriated.

I'm not happy he was able to "find comfort here", the point of this sub isn't to be an outlet for people who're depressed to leave their final suicide notes here. On top of which you even made an edit to justify what you earlier said.

You are a despicable low life.

I hope you choke on a sharp shard of glass.

/u/iQ9k ur a good man. misunderstood but good

Good because he supports someone’s decision to commit suicide?

Is that good because no one else would support that?

How do YOU define good?

Good because they hold 'respectable' views (as far as the masses are concerned) regarding the importance of helping people find the will to continue whenever and wherever possible, while at the same time respecting someones decision.

Someone finds the will to rape.

You support encouraging this ‘will’ or you support someone willing to respect that decision?

Did you think about what you wrote before writing it?

lul wut?

what has rape got to do with this? are you getting threads mixed up? I support peoples right to make their own decision when it comes to ending their own life.

Idk if you can read this since you blocked me. Idk how that works.

You said OP holds respectable view.

What’s respectable about letting people end their lives before they’ve begun attempting to fix it?

Also, regarding my comment history, I deal with racists and I don’t have the best patience with them

If he had any second thoughts, probably he doesn't have anymore thanks to your comment.

I understand what you're trying to say. Quality of life is important. Quality of death equally so.

"There is but one truly serious philosophical problem, and that is whether or not to commit suicide." -- Albert Camus

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Looks like I'm the only one who agrees with you. Have my updoot

bad mod

How often do you smoke meth?

I'm with you. I hate cunts who announce this shit for attention. Just do it faggot.

Practice what you reach, cunt.

Holy fuck is this for real?

You're a disgusting human being and I hope you get what you deserve.

For what? Wtf?

Holy shit, this must be the most downvoted post on this sub. You are a legend.

Congrats on being a horrible person.

He's better person than any of the mice commenting here.

As if encouraging suicide is being a good person

he was 19 you fucktard, he could have easily found happiness by staying alive

easily Tell me how

easily

Tell me how easy it is

sorry I don't have conversation with mentally ill retards, fuck off

I don't have conversation with mentally ill retards

Dear god.....

Instead of wallowing in self pity on the internet, go get a haircut. Get some decent clothes. Shave. Shower. Get a job or a hobby or SOMETHING. You're a human fucking being, you can do anything. But you'll never get anywhere if you just sit around waiting for someone to hand you a new life on a silver platter.

Im glad I'm not in need of help right now because that's a pretty generic turd of a statement.

My best friends dad died 3 days ago. He had a stroke 8 years ago, suffered terribly ever since. He asked to be allowed to take his own life several times, but nobody would help him or allow it. It's illegal too, anyone helping him would be prosecuted for manslaughter. Would you support suicide in this situation?

I'm not saying this is the same situation as the young gun we came here for. What I am saying is it's a sliding scale, and a truly subjective choice.

Hmmm. Nah.

Well you'll never get laid if you don't put effort into yourself. If you don't try, no one else is gonna try for you

I'm 46, my d*&k is almost translucent from miles and years of vaginal intercourse and whatnot. I see plenty of well-employed haircut-having, nice manners virgins out there, my point is that taking a bath and being a 'proper' human is not exactly the recipe. Jesus, I need to turn this crank in for a new one, fucking tired I say. This is the funniest sub on reddit most days, I am here for the comedy. Also this sub reminds me I'm not in the tater cellar.

r/ihavesex

Actually... Thank you very much for this. Seems so obvious when I read it. But somehow I've missed this lesson for a few years now. And to be clear, I am neither trolling or being sarcastic. Thank you for real.

go get a haircut. Get some decent clothes. Shave. Shower. Get a job or a hobby or SOMETHING.

WOW THIS IS ALL NEW INFORMATION, no one ever gave this advice to people before woah man

Have you done any of it?

Yes, and for years I was incel

Then I started complaining about women and how subhuman they are and actually got a gf

True story

No he couldn't have, you should be blaming femoids who were much more significant factor in his suicide than some mod who offered him comfort in despair.

get out of this sub for you own health and safety, you aren't going to make any friends or have any kind of relationship if you use the term "femoids"

This is the only place I can come to terms with my inceldom without resorting to platitudes, bootstrap analogies, and ideology that you have to deal with normies.

So leave this place, stop enabling this shorty way of thinking and achieve what you’ve wanted. There’s no need to accept a miserable existence

Do you feel like you're helping, idiot?

Nope, and I don’t really care. Your life doesn’t affect mine. Just thought I’d try. Not very hard albeit.

Nope, and I don’t really care.

So you don't care that that user committed suicide, or if I do?

I mean, I would rather people didn’t kill themselves, but it’s yours (or OP’s) choice. And it literally has no impact on my life, apart from the brief minutes spent on this thread. That’s just the way it is.

But enough of that, start downvoting me

but it’s yours (or OP’s) choice

Tell that to all the sanctimonious fuckheads in this thread too.

What is your point here exactly? All you’ve done is argue for the sake of it. If what I said was irrelevant bullshit to you, just ignore it

If what I said was irrelevant bullshit to you, just ignore it

Yet you are still conversing even though you said you didn't care. Nice egoistic double standard you got there.

My lazy arse is sitting on public transport. I’ve got time to have pointless conversations

What is your point here exactly? All you’ve done is argue for the sake of it. If what I said was irrelevant bullshit to you, just ignore it

I don’t have a point. As stated above, I’ve got time to have a -pointless- conversation.

Why did you require a point of me then retard? See how stupid you are? You'll never help anyone, even your own son will grow up emotionally stunted because his retard father can't teach him anything complex.

I didn’t require a point from you, I was just asking if you had one. Having no point is still a relevant answer. Yes, I’m stupid, I can’t argue with that.

Difference between me and you? I do help someone. Myself. You can’t even do that, which is pretty tragic. My son? Lmfao I’m not going to burden myself with kids, don’t want to risk raising a future incel.

I help myself dealing with inceldom by dicussing it in this sub. You're gloating over lowest of the low, same as laughing at a starving African child you cuck. Hate femoids, not your fellow losers.

My fellow losers? Nobody who proudly claims to be an incel is a fellow of mine. Gloating how?

And yes, you help yourself by discussing inceldom here, yet still refer to women as femoids? You’re only going backwards

Understanding that femoids are garbage is essential. If you disagree go away.

Understanding that you’re wrong is the only essential thing to helping yourself.

Why is it good to have it in record?

your "inceldom" is not a real thing. It's mental illness that is being reinforced by the people is this sub

Life is suffering. Suicide is the light that keeps me going.

Bro don't even bother these dudes are crazy. They all think theyre gods gift to women.

no its more that they believe the "there is someone for everyone" thing pushed by society except they don't realize that everyone still needs to work for it

Still waiting for this sub to get shut down. All it does is make people who need help get worse.

Go join a yoga class and a BJJ studio.

Being in a relationship is not the end-all be-all to being happy. The mindset that this is the case is completely self-destructive and not true at all.

You don't really care

LOL said the guy congratulating someone on having the bravery to kill himself...

yeah, I actually do. This sub is harming society

This sub is a reflection on brutal realities of life. Low tier males mean nothing to the rest of the world. We only have each other.

no you don't, you tell eachother that you are "low tier"

You are disgusting...I mean on the inside.

My dick and butt-hole have these little rashy bumps.

fascinating

You stoked to hit 1,000 downvotes?

I've never gotten that many before. I wonder if there's a prize.

I've actually been counting all day

I say it's time for a celebration.

incelbration

Pride and accomplishment

Maybe you should take your own advise.

lol nice, hopefully more infectious human waste kill themselves

Lmao gottem

What the literal actual factual fuck is wrong with you? Like, are you actually insane? That edit doesn’t mean anything when you literally were saying his suicide is something to be proud of.

Jesus christ, everyone seems to be completely misunderstanding you. I honestly feel that this is a heartfelt and touching message. Thank you for wishing him a final farewell. If he's already decided to go, then I feel that making him keep going will make it worse, and from his post he's been completely devastated by everyone in his life. I know that the poster won't see this, but I hope you finally find someone in whatever comes after.

Thanks dawg

Rip stagetail bro

Suck it up buttercup, plenty of people were born into and have lived through much worse than you me and all our side. The human condition is a thing, we all struggle with it from time to time, call a friend, family member, co-worker, etc. But, please spare us the drama Juliette, and you really should not imply that committing to kill one's self is courageous in any way shape or form. Farewell, wish you the best!

Did you read anything he said? Call a family member? Call friends? It sounds like he was in an environment with constant abuse from said family members. He even said he was molested.

This is inceltears and normans ladies and gentlemen.

...I fucking hate users like this too. That last sentence was just unnecessary retardation.

I'd love to see this motherfucker say this to the depression subreddit.

Disgusting individuals from IncelHate. No respect, understanding, no compassion just pure hate.

Fuck off you cunt. This is our sub, nobody wants you here.

Dude, wtf. You're not helping.

People like the user you're replying to are the reason why incels can't stand normies. Sentiments like this are mirrored way too often.

new mod hi

Good

livestream it for incel awareness. Not that foids will care but a talentcel could make a documentary about the genocide of the sub8 males

If you haven't done it, it's okay to come back. Our community will invite you back with open arms.

If you have, I hope you will finally achieve eternal peace. I know this doesn't mean much but I'm sorry you've been through so much. You're strong for having even made it this far.

f

The world is a cruel and wicked place. All of us here go through and have gone through so much shit just because of the way we were born. Just because we're ugly. We can't even have a place for people similar to ourselves without it getting brigaded. Without people coming in here to further harass us.

I hope you find whatever it is you seek in the afterlife. I wish you a easy and painless passage into the afterlife. And most importantly hope you can finally rest. You tried your best mate, there's nothing else you can do. Your presence will be missed brother.

And now his watch has ended.

see you on the other side.

Good luck boyo.

Very well. I'll see you soon brudda.

Damn, another NYC incel gone at the hands of women and normies. This is truly unfortunate. Living here I definitely experienced all the bullying and torture that you've experienced. Seems like you stuck it out with opening up to people; something I did not put up with because I knew the outcome. In your case, people who you did open up to shut you down, and the pain the femails gave was too much. 1000% understandable. Don't let normies unjustify it.

Another incel from my city gone. Rest easy pal </3

gotta be tough for nyc cels. hard enough as a small towncel

Yea, from the statistics alone, it implies otherwise. There are endless amounts of single attractive young women in this city. Not where me or Stagetail lived in particular. But in the city overall, yes. Just because there are all these women, doesn't mean they'd date us. They are all single waiting for chad and ready to quickly bully incels. People are very rough and rude over here as well. I'm always strapped when I go anywhere unless I know there are scanners.

Everyone's trying to get Wolf of Wall Street to knock them up and give them a kid and beaucoup bucks

Kinda like the desperate virgin men trying to get NEWMOM to come in and start taking care of their adult care needs/finances.

The fuck is NEWMOM?

The incel parallel to Wolf of Wall Street.

yeah whatever city no matter how many people live there the 8/10 or above rule applies so it's just harder for nyc cels to see so many stacies they can't have.

I'm from a smaller town and moved here about a year ago. It used to not be bad in the smaller town as there weren't too many attractive females there, most of them uggos (which I still couldn't get) but after moving here it's almost impossible not to pass beautiful females all the time. It fucking sucks.

Does anyone here have a more specific idea of his location than just NYC? If so, make a call to someone, try to do something, or PM me if you won't do that! Everyone is saying, "Damn, that's horrible, RIP," but isn't there anything we can do? If he really did what he wrote, chances are good that it wasn't lethal in and of itself, but he could be unconscious, and maybe no one has found him yet.

Maybe he just deleted his account and someone knows of alternative ways of contacting him?

People like you are the problem

Revisiting this thread and I felt obligated to respond here.

Not at all. We offer support to each other in ways that nobody else will. Without incels to be there for me, I don't know where I'd be.

"Another one down at the hands of females and normies"

Yes, people like him,are the problem. That's not support, that's reinforcing a dangerous, psychotic mindset

lol at downvoting me. It doesn't change anything, this is an old post man.

Yes, they are the ones that have brought him down. Have you lived the life of an incel? Have you known what it feels like to wake up in the morninng and know that you are inferior according to society? Do you know what it's like to get brutally bullied and have no response? Do you know what it's like to be rejected constantly for your locks, while the douchebag guy who is taller and better looking than you is slaying?

That's the real problem. The real problem is that nobody cares about low value males. But that's the way it is, it is observable in all animals. Look at what happens to low tier male lions. They're fucking killed. Nobody cares about them at all. The list goes on and on for animals, if you want more examples. In a way, that's what we are. Low value males that nobody cares about. Some of us cannot bear this burden for a lifetime, and in a way, I don't blame them. I wish for them to stay, but I cannot make them.

Lol at feeling the need to call me out on downvoting you. And no, we have no legitimate way of knowing if they are indeed the ones who brought him down, but rather only what he has said. But, according to the majority of people on this sub, all problems in this world stem,from,women having the right to choose who they be with, while harboring violent, disgusting fantasies.

And actually, yes, I know fucking exactly how it is. I have a pretty serious physical condition that is in no way easy to hide. Constant stares when I'm out in public, little kids pointing at me and whispering to their parents asking why I am how I am, and being ruthlessly bullied dye to it. So yeah, I know exactly how it is, but I'm not foolish enough to blame all my problems on those who wouldn't go out with me because of my condition, nor the people who were lucky enough to not have it, because I actually have a shred of common sense

And no, we have no legitimate way of knowing if they are indeed the ones who brought him down, but rather only what he has said.

Lame excuse. You and I both know that bottom of the barrel males are bashed endlessly. We just have to "toughen up" and "stop whining" and "stop blaming others". We just need to accept our inferiority, not complain about being laughed at for our inferiority, and not talk with others that are feeling the same way.

But, according to the majority of people on this sub, all problems in this world stem,from,women having the right to choose who they be with

Nolol. All problems with us stem from our looks. Being ugly is brutal.

And actually, yes, I know fucking exactly how it is. I have a pretty serious physical condition that is in no way easy to hide. Constant stares when I'm out in public, little kids pointing at me and whispering to their parents asking why I am how I am, and being ruthlessly bullied dye to it. So yeah, I know exactly how it is, but I'm not foolish enough to blame all my problems on those who wouldn't go out with me because of my condition, nor the people who were lucky enough to not have it, because I actually have a shred of common sense

Actually, you would be foolish to blame yourself for your problems. It isn't your bad personality that gave you a serious physical condition. It isn't your personality that gets you made fun of.

It would be incredibly foolish of you to not blame society for the way they judge you.

No, they are not bashed endlessly, nobody is. They just desperately cling to the few times they are just so they can screech about how they're the real victims.

Did I say I blame myself? No, I did not. I know its nobodies fault that I am,the way I am, same as I know that its the fault of people that made fun of me for making fun of me. But the problem that the majority of incels (and me when I was younger) is feeling that the world owes us anything. It doesn't. Nobody is owed anything, you,just gotta stop seeing yourself as a damn victim and live with it and stop focusing on the negative so damn much.

What incels also tend to fail at is realizing that, while good looking men are often just as misogynistic as them, they do have a redeeming quality in their attractiveness. Whilst the incels complaining about it are both unattractive, and terrible people on the inside. But you know what, if you can,just get it through your head that you just need a redeeming quality, somebody will see something in you, and realizing that simple little thing changes the whole damn world.

So stop telling people to blame every one else for their problems, and encourage them to actually change.

No, they are not bashed endlessly, nobody is. They just desperately cling to the few times they are just so they can screech about how they're the real victims.

Yup, men are killing themselves because they are desperately trying to cling to victimhood. Good one, you sure hit the nail on the head there

But the problem that the majority of incels (and me when I was younger) is feeling that the world owes us anything.

Nope, it doesn't. You're right. Nobody "owes" me anything. Doesn't mean I can't be angered at the unfairness of it all.

you,just gotta stop seeing yourself as a damn victim and live with it

Fucking why? Because it triggers you? Why do I need to stop focusing on reality?

What incels also tend to fail at is realizing that, while good looking men are often just as misogynistic as them, they do have a redeeming quality in their attractiveness. Whilst the incels complaining about it are both unattractive, and terrible people on the inside. But you know what, if you can,just get it through your head that you just need a redeeming quality, somebody will see something in you, and realizing that simple little thing changes the whole damn world.

I try that and still am trying that. I'll hit you back when it works. Don't hold your breath. Looks are a prerequisite more than they are anything else. They aren't something off on the side, they're the crucial foundation to everything - including your personality

So stop telling people to blame every one else for their problems,

We're blaming everyone else for what they arre rightfully responsible for.

and encourage them to actually change.

We do lol. Gymcelling is a very common technique. As is approaching, and what not. None of this will change the genetic reality that they are facing. You cannot hide from your genes forever. If they are meant to be passed on, then they will. If they are inferior, then you're playing a lottery game. Maybe you'll be the one in a million, maybe you won't.

Deleting this sub wouldn't get rid of incels. Unwanted men will still keep killing themselves en masse.

Did I ever say it would? No, but then people wouldn't be able to have people reinforce they acidic BS. Way to avoid my other comment btw

The only thing we are reinforcing are the realities that we face every day. I know my fellow incels far more than you do, and every one of them is happy to have met the group. They are happy to have people who finally understand their pain.

Many of them would've roped without the group, actually. Deleting the sub won't get rid of these truths. I will still face the same problems I did before. I will still feel the way that I feel now. Men will still kill themselves every single day, many due to reasons that I am describing above.

every living creature dies alone

  • Donnie darko

I really hope you didn't go through with this. If you're still here, it does get better. Suicide is a permanent solution to temporary problems. Please don't kill yourself.

We have no contact info. It's unwise to post any personal information on this forum as it could lead to doxxing.

How many more incels will have to die? He isn't the first and wont be the last.

They don’t have to die. None of them do.

It’s communities that foster this negative outlook, comfort downward spirals, and do everything in their power to reaffirm the belief that “everyone else is to blame for my problems” that brings them to the brink.

This community is sick. Everyone here desperately needs professional help. That’s not an insult, it’s an olive branch. These people can be saved, but they need to know that they can be helped.

The kid went and got help and got used by his therapist. If you would have read the whole thing, you would have realized that, you ignoramus

I did read it. Quote for me where he said he was “used” by his therapist.

to the therapist who exploited your pain and lied

I guess you didn't read it

Describe what he meant, then. Because that’s very very very easy to read as “the therapist is lying about me so I come in more so she can make money while telling me what to feel”.

They never read these stories. These cunts just don't give a fuck, they just want to virtue signal and make believe they have the high horse.

I did read it. It can just as easily be read as angst and rebellion. "That bitch therapist keeps lying that I'm not stable and just wants me to come in more so she can make money off me." Something along those lines.

I also hope u/Stagetail isn't dead. Things can change. Things can *be* changed.

you can't change genetics you retard

You can treat chemical imbalances.

chemicals won't fix an ugly face or a small frame

Exercise can fix a small frame. “Ugly” is subjective, and cosmetic surgery exists in extreme cases.

What other excuses you got?

Exercise can fix a small frame

Exercise will not fix inferior small bones

Exercise puts muscle on. What’s the next excuse?

a lot of muscle on a short bird boned human looks dumb

To you, maybe. It’s all subjective.

Sorry when did we blame others for “our problems”. Why don’t you tell that to the wild baby animals of the world who were born subordinate and were cannibalized or neglected to death. It’s not anyone’s fault, it just is

You’re not an animal. Neither is anyone around you.

We’re all animals. Do u believe in science and evolution? We’re all the same

I do believe in science and evolution, which shows we have considerably higher rationalization than the rest of the animal kingdom, therefore claiming “we’re just animals” is wildly reductive and irresponsible.

You’re a fucking idiot and you need to read more

Says the one who thinks evolution = we are exactly the same as animals.

We are primates, which are mammals, which fall under animalia. Scientifically speaking, we are absolutely animals. Just because we're smarter than all of the others doesn't change our classification.

And that has what to do with this conversation?

It negates whatever the hell you're talking about. The whole "humans aren't animals" thing.

it means the same rules that govern animal social dynamics in primates wolves birds govern ours. the weak are eaten by the strong, it's a story as old as life unfortunately.

sad i have to break it down to the level of a preschooler but this is the level of idiocy most normans are at.

Animals eating their young has nothing to do with human social dynamics, guy. But please, keep making excuses.

you're wrong man..... i want to be on your side lol. its complicated and there are things like love and support but at the end of the day game theory is the governing dynamics. anyways, have a good day.

We don't tell them that they should have stuck it out or try harder or that they're going to inconvenience those they leave behind. They die and we move on. So it just is. Just like it just is that this man chose to decide this life was not worth his pain and suffering and ending it was the way he wanted to go out.

It's not an outlook, it our lives.

Yes, we comfort the downward spiral but we don't create it.

bye bye fuckface. go ahead and ban me btw.

Such a great personality on you.

May you Rest In Peace friend. I swear to god I'm calling the police if inceltears members mock this post

Do it. We have told these asshats to leave us alone multiple times. I don't think they should show up right now.

I had enough platitudes for the day.

they won't. they only mock posts that fit their agenda of what they think incels are. they miraculously don't manage to see the posts that highlight how tortured we truly are

Holy shit I hope you didnt do it. I truly hope you survive .

Rest in peace brother.

Objectively and rationally 20 is way too early to give up. Personally, if you'd asked me if I'd ever get laid or have a good career at 20 I'd have said no, I'm too fat, too ugly and too shy. And it took several years after that, but it eventually happened. I dunno. If he's really dead, too bad, because I think thinks might have eventually turned around for him.

Did you get molested too? Neglected by a fucking therapist (fuck those scammers)? Neglected by your mother, who had something do with you being molested?

I wasn't molested, but I grew up in grinding, unrelenting poverty in an Appalachian "holler." You ever seen Winter's Bone. Kinda like that, but crossed with Welcome to the Dollhouse for the breathtakingly inhuman bullying. I didn't see a therapist until after I was 40, for my lifelong suicidal depression and anxiety. I wasn't neglected by my mother, but my dad died when I was about this kid's age in a horrible accident.

Your face changes too and we all get old and less attractive. If you need life fuel here’s some: even movie stars cope with their looks deteriorating.

Honestly, many women prefer more mature-looking men, a look you grow into around your thirties. The baby-faced thing doesn't do it for them.

Wow such great life fuel, millionaire celebrities who have had Stacies throwing themselves at them for years and who can spend as much money as they want on cosmetic surgery feel bad about getting old.

How dumb can Normans be

im not norman, just looking for a hit of cope where I can

I've seen your comments in other places. you're absolutely a norman that doesn't belong here. go away, we just lost one of our brothers and the last thing anyone here needs is some dumbfuck trying to start an argument. leave now please

I wish. I’m nice to people and try to empathize w them that doesn’t make me a normie. Anyways

Rest in peace brother.

Ehm... I'm all about suicide but I do think that you are too young to make the decision. Based on your problems I would atleast give it 10 more years. If youre 29 and nothing changed at all by all means please kill yourself. It's your human right to escape this forced and hostile life.

What the hell? You people are sick. This guy was only 19 and you didn't try to talk him out of it

It's not my business to talk him out of suicide. I know the pain he experiences. It's a person's right to decide when they want to die.

19 is far to early to give up

It never gets easier

am so sorry to read your pain. but sincerely hope you had a change of heart

fake until proven

Hey man,

I used to feel like I'd given up on life too. I'm doing well now and can give you actionable steps for how I did it. How I got out.

If you want to call me and talk, Skype, WhatsApp, whatever, pm me. I'm serious.

Bit late for that now.

Yeah I figured

Gotta try tho, you know?

I know you guys don't believe me but I once did really feel borderline suicide and got out of it

What changed

Pm me

RIP I will try to have no bad thoughts today and only good works

NO!!!

Is there ANYONE here who knows more about Stagetail and where he's located?! Is there anyone who can help find him?! It's probably not too late!! Please, did anyone PM him or chat with him extensively? Can anyone help??

And now everyone cares

What do you mean, and now? I'm new to this subreddit, and I know I replied to one or two of Stagetail's comments 2-3 days ago, which would be the first time I ever saw any comments written by him (or knew about him at all). I already cared, before this showed up!

Does anyone know how to get in touch with him?

Sadly no, it's too risky to share phone numbers and other personal info like that out of risk of doxxing from IncelTards.

Are you saying that no one knows any more specific info about him because he never shared it, or that there are people who do but they can't share it with anyone else because of the doxxers?

If it's the latter, and if you know anything about him, do think that (because of your position as mod) you can try reaching out without worrying about exposing him to doxxers (obviously exactly the last thing he needs right now if he's still hanging on)?

Honestly I don't know, it could be a mix of both cases. He didn't share the info with me, and in his eyes it was wise to not do so. He may have reached out to another incel, but it's unlikely.

I hope he did. I hope someone can find him. I hope he's OK.

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Yes

rip may you meet with st ER

Good luck on the other side

Don't do it bro you're not even 20 yet and you're deciding to end it so early its a waste bro life is full of possibilities it's worth living to see what those possibilities are. If you've already don't it bro god bless and may you be taken into his lords grace.

All you fucking horrible cunts that put other incels down rather than trying to empower them are partly responsible for this tragedy.

This is a tragedy. Any loss of innocent human life is. But, while it is a tragedy, the people twisting this and saying shit like "Femoids claim another victim" are delusional and sick.

Perfectly content mocking the shit out of those very same humans, pissing fuel into the fire and driving them inward even more.

When shit hits the fan, you suddenly care.

You don't even know what you're talking about

I've seen enough from you on this sub. I know exactly what I'm talking about.

So you've seen me mocking people who say that women are lesser beings worthy of rape

Nope. You mock “incels“ on the whole from what I've seen, throwing the few reasonable folks here under the bus for your own entertainment.

And that's where you're wrong kiddo

Uh huh.

So you don't constantly mock people as "incels"? That's still thowing the more reasonable folks under the bus because you want to get your kicks by laughing at stupid shit.

Fuck you, and anyone like you.

Dude how sad are you? I just checked your post history it's all dedicated to making fun of virgins. If you don't love the incels like some of us normies that lurk here just fuck off. It's pathetic

Please call 1-800-273-TALK (8255)

if you are US-American and really feel the way you describe. Seriously, seek professional help.

lol. the suicide hotline is an absolute joke. stop virtue signaling, you cunt.

He's gone. You post in inceltears. Fuck off.

Well what else should I expect from a group advocating suicide because they simply do not know any better.

What else would I expect from a group who bullies mentally ill virgins. You are scum.

Well I tried to help but that doesn't work with people who deny any sort of help. Go back to your echo chamber

We are posting on braincels right now. You go back to yours. None of you offer decent support. Now go fuck off and die.

Now go fuck off and die

Alrighty

Yes go die thanks.

So first you make a post about this on IT...and now you suddenly want to help (by doing what amounts to nothing a day after the whole thing went down).

Piss off to your echo chamber. At least Braincels doesn't watchlist people they dislike and doesn't ban dissent.

What else would you expect from fucking anyone?

Trying to talk someone who's explicitly declared their intent to commit suicide is what pretty much anybody would do.

Stop your fake concern for incels.

I didn't pretend to be concerned for incels.

Hell, barring the suicidal one, I'm just here to tell you guys how right you are!

Please leave and don't return.

Sorry, it's not my job to provide you with copes.

Fuck off, stupid bitch. Those people do not give a single shit about you.

This is why people bully you

"Bully" lmao are you in high school?

No, but people who just insult othersare generally disliked

Depends on their looks.

I doubt that.

It's true.

That's why you're still an incel.

You sound like a broken record.

To anyone seeing this post: DO NOT CALL ANY SUICIDE HOTLINE NUMBER

Terrible experience all they do is hound you for not taking meds and they WILL call police on you unless you lie and say you're not suicidal

Inshallah I will see you in Jannah brother.

Astfrulligah brother it’s haram to commit suicide but inshallah we will all make Jannah in this cursed dunya

Farewell brother. Another victim of degeneracy.

/u/Stagetail! If you're out there reading this, please message me, or one of the mods! Please tell us you aren't gone!

nice one down hope the rest follow :)

You're a cunt.

Removed for encouraging suicide.

This is the one you remove? A good deal of the people in this comments section are glorifying suicide. This sub was meant to be a support group, wasn’t it? What happened?

Shit man. RIP

Is Stagetail the user whose flair read "Cuck" back in incels?

Please don’t. :(

Dafuq????? I'm on the dark side of reddit again. How are you guys glorifying his suicide instead of trying to talk him out of it.

Oh well, I'm getting out of here.

Fuuuuuck

Jesus Christ what the fuck is wrong with you people ,

S T O P G L O R I F Y I N G S U I C I D E Y O U A B S O L U T E F U C K S

Suicide is a perfectly valid personal choice. Why are you such a sadist that you wish people to rather continue suffering than finding the bliss of non-existence?

No it isn't. Ever. There are people who genuinely care for you in this world. Suicide is selfish, and is NEVER the right option. Instead of giving up on life (which you only experience once, if you forgot), people like this should seek for help. There are doctors and other peeps who studied YEARS in this field, to help people struggling about suicide. Even "genetic trash" like you said are worth living, and eventually find friends, love and success, even if this takes time. But at least these people TRY. And if they don't succeed, they try again.

This is called real life. Suicide is an escape, not a solution.

Do you personally know all of us? No? Then how could you possibly know that there are people that care?

I have my mother which I love dearly, but if I didn't have her, I would have no one. There are people out there with literally no one for them and you need to wrap your head around that fact. Stop peddling your generic "It's selfish" bullshit

Well, initially i tried to offer some support, but whatever. You guys are just... I won't bother more, keep being the depressive virgins that you are. Have a nice day.

You try and give advice but then demean and insult. You hate us but don't want us to kill ourselves. You don't really care about us. You're just like every other normie that comes here, jackass.

It is true i don't really care, because i don't know you personaly and your general attitude (along with other from this sub) infuriates me.

And you're wrong, i don't hate you. For the same reason above. I don't know you, so i don't care much, but i've worked as a nurse in a psychiatric hospital, so im well aware about suicide issues and shit. Thats the sole reason i cared. Because i wanted to help, and then you just jumped on me like if i was a terrorist or some shit.

But like i said previously, whatever. Don't want help from the normies? Fine. You can stay alone all your life and do whatever the fuck you want for all i care. I don't. At all. You're just another damned random on the internet. At least i tried.

Good luck with finding a woman though.

You can stay alone all your life and do whatever the fuck you want for all i care. I don't. At all. You're just another damned random on the internet. At least i tried.

Then fucking leave and stop bothering incels. Seriously it is none of your business what they do. Suicide is a personal choice.

Go away trash.

The point is that you cannot help even if you truly wanted it. You cannot change the nature of humans.

Good luck with finding a woman though. (:

Too late for that for most of us.

Why are you such a shitty human you come here to rub it in their faces?

I don't think you realize how offensive you're actually being. Some people are just dealt a shitty card in life, OP clearly was, his THERAPIST, his teacher, and even his own family betrayed him. OP was molested, bullied, and had no support from anyone aside from incels.

Have you seen an inner-city school? They're rampant with theft, fighting, pregnant teens ect. The education is shit, most kids don't even have a chance, and they have no support from their parent(s). The schools are poor, teacher underpaid, and it's a horrible environment for learning.

Now imagine being in that environment, while being ugly, bullied, and a slow learner. You start out way behind everybody else because you're in a shitty school, you're lonely and have no friends or anyone to support you, you can't learn anything without extra help, and you're already barely getting an education. You have no chance unless you work incredibly hard your whole life, and that would understandably make you angry.

Your whole life is unfair, you see people who were born in much better circumstances than you were, and you wish you could have that. Kids who were born with parents who love them, and support them, kids who get to have an education, kids who were born with good looks, and are able to easily find someone. Meanwhile you have to work 10x harder to even come close to what they have.

Shitty personality? Everyone here is trying, most have to work way harder than you ever will, and they're pissed because you're being such an insensitive dick. OP killed himself, do you really feel the need to come on here, mock him in his death, and call him selfish? His family didn't care, he had no friends, he had no one. Can you just not accept this?

It's honestly offensive when you say generic shit like, "There are people who genuinely care for you in this world. You should seek help." No, OP didn't have anyone who cared for him, and he DID seek help. He went to a therapist, and all they did was piss on him like everyone else, it's hard to get support when you've been betrayed by everyone you've ever trusted.

TL;DR You're a dick.

Dude. I’m a recovering heroin addict, been to eight rehabs, absolutely an awful human being at my worst, and I promise, the only times I’ve been able to secure a relationship were when I was taking care of myself.

Don’t hit me with any bullshit about being dealt shitty cards either, because I have had my FAIR share. You guys are always talking about “chads” saying “you just need to shower/take care of yourself/be confident” and this whole group of self-sabotaging, negative, angry people just could’ve helped this person help themself and just didn’t. You all need to man the fuck up and realize your negatives and play them as a positive. I should’ve been dead multiple times, have tried to kill myself, have hurt myself so many ways, have had all the bullshit possible happen to me, and I’ve gotten my share of girls. Seriously, trust someone who’s been through the shit too, PERSISTENTLY take care of yourself and it’ll go well; with addiction it’s the same way — a lot of things are — you aren’t gonna fix years of issues with a week of doing well. Trust me on that lmao

Not personally an incel, never posted to this sub before, I found a link to your post from another subreddit, and I think you're a dick. You can't possibly think your generic, "take care of urself, things will get better" bs, will make everything better. The fact that you've gotten 'your share of girls' already shows that you couldn't possibly understand what it's like to actually be ugly 'genetic trash'. Do you really think it'll get better, when you're 30 and live in your mom's basement, and have no chance at actually being a decent human being?

Yes, I got those girls because I took care of myself. I didn’t and just pitied myself for a while. While you might disagree with me, I have a right to my opinion too. I’m stating something that everyone is discrediting because they’re “living here” or “this old,” but dude I’ve seen young and old, ugly and beautiful catch an SO. Why encourage angry, depressed living? Everyone could very well help each other but it’s never done.

Not encouraging angry depressed living, it's nice and all to be naive and all and think that saying, "it'll get better!1!", will help, but it's actually insulting. Some people here have been incels for years, the world doesn't work like that. It especially doesn't help when you call people who've killed themselves selfish, and then tell everyone who called you out on it, to keep being depressed virgins. What exactly do you think that accomplishes aside from satisfying your need to make fun of depressed, lonely people?

1!

1! = 1

I have no need. And suicide ultimately IS fucking selfish. I literally just said that I’ve tried to kill myself before, multiple times. Every time I regretted it, because one problem or even one HUNDRED problems isn’t worth fucking dying and at the same time pushing those problems/pains onto my family and friends. I’m done arguing about this, there’s literally nothing I can say to change anyone’s mind here but the people who don’t have the issue of being incel. I’m not hitting you with any bullshit I didn’t learn myself through what I’m saying, nor am I saying to “go back to being depressed virgins,” I’m saying what helped me get out of both of those respective groups. I’m sorry if my opinion is too brutal but hey if one person isn’t miserable for any reason bc of my comment then I’m glad.

31 here. Posting from moms basement. Have wonderful girlfriend.

Thank you for understanding the situation clearly. OP also realized that he had nothing to live for. This is the life cycle of some depressed men, some will recover, some will survive, and the person you replied to will make fun of them to make their own low status life sound better than OP's.

I’m really sorry for all that shit that you’re feeling and have had to deal with, man. I really read everything you said, and if that were me, I would be in such a deep dark place.. I don’t think you would want or believe anything supportive that I said and I don’t blame you. I just want you to know that I listened and heard you.

Stick that just world up yours coward.

There are people who genuinely care for you in this world. Suicide is selfish

hahahahahaha

Imagine how great your life must be if you believe this to be applicable to everyone.

Meh, been there, ended up not doing it, have great life now, get fucked idiots

Same. Enjoy nothingness I guess lol, hope dies the second you pull the trigger.

It's not logical. Suicide and suicidal thoughts stem from mental illness, something you can work against by finding the right help and finding methods to live a more positive life, but yea i guess, just keep surrounding yourself with negativity and obsessively convince yourself that it's the only option when you're „ugly“

Le /r/drama army checking in.

Mayocide, bussy, etc.

dude. It's over

how old was OP's account? was this the single post ever made?

No, he had been posting for several months on the incels subs actively. Most incels probably recognize his username (Stagetail).

I wonder if he was showing signs of suicide, I don't know, maybe this could've been avoided... posting "get some help" "suicide hotline" and related stuff in a suicide note is really really... well... too late :/

No one cares about incels or the problems they face. People only pretend to care when one kills themselves.

hum... I understand

Dude please don't

u/spez

yeah he should follow this guy's lead

Allahunarisxto my brother inshallah you made it to Jannah

See you back next week

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LARPing faggot

lol

dont be mean to the currycel subhumans

Bruhhg have a goos night aye, luv u

Damn. He must have killed himself and then deleted his account :/

Lol dumbfuck killing yourself at 19? Fuck off, if nobody cares about you, do a bunch of cocaine and heroin and drag your suicide out a little. Of course youre dead so i suppose my advice doesn't matter, unless this is all bullshit, which i highly suspect

Can I watch?

Right it's definitely not possible they used a few different creative height-related insults and he just shorthanded them by saying manlet

Fucking dipshit.

Another win for IncelTards I guess.

They're extremely bitter with a huge inferiority complex. They're going to romanticize this guy's suicide because it's so "noble". Any "normie" that comes and tried to help gets told to fuck off. It's insane

Ppl here dont like platitudes coming from outsiders. You guys are part of the problem as you come here to insult but all of sudden you decide to virtue signal when its convenient.

Keep pushing people away, and you’ll end up like OP. That’s no way to go.

Why do you do this to yourself?

I’d rather be shitty and possibly save a life than be smug and let someone die.

Sure you did kiddo

Yeah, it's like they don't care if another suicide happens.

Man fuck these people. IT needs to go away for good.

We won’t know now, because this toxic community cultivates and nurtures suicidal tendencies.

Honestly though, what are the arguments against suicide if you’re not doing well? It’s just to not hurt others by your loss and not to give into the suffering, to see the hope. What hope tho

You’re not an animal. Neither is anyone around you.

No.

We’re all animals. Do u believe in science and evolution? We’re all the same

Am I supposed to be charming you?

We don't tell them that they should have stuck it out or try harder or that they're going to inconvenience those they leave behind. They die and we move on. So it just is. Just like it just is that this man chose to decide this life was not worth his pain and suffering and ending it was the way he wanted to go out.

Probably smart to delete your comment about the master’s degree and the sports car, since it makes you look like a cocky asshole and pretty seriously undermines the point you’re making in this brand new reply.

Are “you dumbass” and “you shithead” parts of your key empathy? Seems like you’re somewhat lacking in that department.

I started with nothing, and I’ve been working off student loans for years. Anyone can do it if they try and they seek out positive support structures.

Yes, anyone can become anything they want if they just work hard enough. Fucking delusional. Intelligence, looks, physical ability has nothing to do with it.

It doesn’t.

Were you bullied at school? Did you have a tough relationship with your parents?

So you're just going to ignore the point of my comments because you know they're true? Very professional mod behavior btw /s

Facts aren't arguable

Good thing you haven't stated any facts so far.

Its an opinion of yours and you vocalised it therefore it is criticism

That's not what a criticism is, man.

Why will you not accept it? Are you concerned about everything bad in the world?

I guess. Why can't we stay though? Even when we're nice you still hate us. You even hate when we encourage you to seek some help for what's clearly severe depression. That's an act of caring, not attacking. Does that also make it worse?

I am white. Both of my parents are mostly Of German descent. My father’s aunt married a Pakistani man. They lived in Pakistan while she was alive. She died rather suddenly. He was the dean of a college I think. She was a nurse. They had three sons who all live here now. They are my father’s first cousins but we’ve always been a close family so I’ve just always acted like they were my first cousins as well.

I also have a cousin who is Japanese. 🤷🏼‍♀️

You should move to Saudi Arabia. There is a lack of white women there and there is demand there. Also you can help people in Africa as it is literally right beside Saudi Arabia.

you can't change genetics you retard

chemicals won't fix an ugly face or a small frame

a lot of muscle on a short bird boned human looks dumb

Sex makes life much better. Also yes I have not gone to college, I have gone to university.

Likewise. 45k is a lot to you, not to anyone else.

You’re seriously brain damaged

You’re part of r/Braincels.

You don’t understand what criticism means even when defined for you

Suicide is a perfectly valid personal choice. Why are you such a sadist that you wish people to rather continue suffering than finding the bliss of non-existence?

So is applauding suicide.

Well you'll never get laid if you don't put effort into yourself. If you don't try, no one else is gonna try for you

The only thing we are reinforcing are the realities that we face every day. I know my fellow incels far more than you do, and every one of them is happy to have met the group. They are happy to have people who finally understand their pain.

Many of them would've roped without the group, actually. Deleting the sub won't get rid of these truths. I will still face the same problems I did before. I will still feel the way that I feel now. Men will still kill themselves every single day, many due to reasons that I am describing above.

no you don't, you tell eachother that you are "low tier"