Exactly.

Can confirm tbh.

If you have to try, it's already over.

If she wanted you, she would let you know.

But would any of you even recognize it?

Or would you just think, "Stupid roastie slut, making fun of how subhuman I am!!" and then slink off to angrily post about how a femoid smiled at you out of pity or something.

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Are you neomancrers alt? You both spew the same long diatribes of bullshit.

He's my Asian clone. We communicate via telepathy to coordinate our assault on the Incelistan.

Your quite funny

We'd recognise. I see it when my friends interact with girls. We're evil not stupid.

You are a loser

copy pasting from an older comment I made:

People who say "women don't approach" mean that they usually don't cold approach strangers and explicitly ask them out. But they do initiate in less direct ways by showing signs of interest and making themselves available. If a women is really interested in you, you will not have to carefully analyze her subtle hints like a detective to find out. It will be clear, and even if you don't pick up on them initially, she will keep trying and make sure you get it.

Don't be fooled into thinking the stories of guys saying "oh she was into me, but I totally didn't realize it! I'm so dumb haha" are a common occurrence. It does happen, but for every situation where it happens, there are many where the woman is indeed not interested. This idea that women play hard to get and that their signs are subtle is what keeps so many men misinterpreting women and thinking they are interested when they are not, and therefore continuing to pursue (or in some cases, harass) and contributing to the image of men as desperate and creepy.

The only time they are showing super obvious signs of interest is when they are infatuated by Chad. Women don't want to be seen as sluts. Women do like to play hard to get because they think if they make a guy work for it they will value her more. Yes this might be a minority of times, but if my chances are 1:100, as a man it's still worth it to take a chance.

Women don't want to be seen as sluts.

They will not be too obvious and straight up ask you out or say something blatantly sexual, but they are fine with things like initiating conversations, hanging out casually (e.g. studying if you are in school), and being friendly and receptive to you talking to them. None of that is slutty, it is just being friendly and leaving open the possibility of interest.

I am not saying these are guaranteed signs of interest, but if a woman is consistently not receptive, then it's a good sign she is not interested. That is, if she does not keep conversations going, consistently declines invitations to hang out and never suggests alternatives, etc.

Yes this might be a minority of times, but if my chances are 1:100, as a man it's still worth it to take a chance.

For you individually, it may be worth it. But if all men collectively do it, then it hurts men as a group. It makes men look thirsty and tells women they are in high demand, which raises women's standards. If men didn't put women on a pedestal, then maybe women wouldn't have inflated self-perceptions and would evaluate men more generously.

Man i must say that i am a bit of a mentalcel, and that i have tried my luck with almost every girl i know, so i am incel. But i am not hideous, just not model tier. Like average, to maybe even a bit above average if you ask the right girls. And girls will make it so much easier for you if they are interested.

I have kissed a girl once, and i have seen a movie with a girl twice at her home, and both times i almost didn't have to do anything to get there. I have talked to legit Chads for advice before and they were all like, "just play cool and the girls will come it's easy."

The hardest blackpill to swallow is probably that no girls have ever been interested in you if you are less attractive than 60%+ of all men.

Prob because you sound thirsty af and that’s super creepy

Here's advice from a Chad.

Forget about women. Forget about fucking. Stop caring.

Just focus on yourself. Do healthy things. Develop hobbies. Figure out what you really fucking love and go out and do it and find othrr people that love it too and go have fun with them. Just be happy.

Then one day you will be out enjoying your hobby(hobbies) with your friends, not giving a fuck about anything with a huge grin on your face, and you will suddenly be drowning in pussy.

sigh

Hahshahahahahahahahahaahahahaha please tell me this is satire

"Advice from a >>Chad<<"

For him, this may work....

Yeah but for the record Im pretty nerdy by chad standards. Glasses. Skinny. Bald. Like videogames. Use big words. I'm fit and take care of my body these days because that's another thing to feel good about and stacking up things to feel good about is the real key here...but havent always been in great shape.

So yeah Im a 'chad' in the sense that women who know me tend to find me desirable and I haven't had any problem finding a date. The irony is that if they didnt find me desirable and I didnt get dates it wouldnt really slow me down much. I didnt start having success with women until i put them waaaaaay far down on my list of priorities and just stopped caring.

Nope. Im an average looking dude and spent my late teens / early 20s lonely and unsexed.

It wasnt until I stopped caring and just focused on finding as many ways as possible to feel good about myself, be healthy, and enjoy what I had. It took me 10 years to learn how to do this. Now I am in my 30s, and most of the time women love me. But when they don't love me, I dont care... because I got too much other shit to feel good about for it to matter much.

Every time I see a well written comment about the fact that women DO pursue, I save it. It really stops a lot of suffering caused by the constant questioning whether a girl is interested.

"women don't approach"

Yeah women do make subtle signals usually.

That's true, i've definitely seen this.

If you're really attractive and there's alcohol involved i've seen women be all over the guy. Like clingy af, trying to force themselves on him etc.

this isn't always true. i got rejected twice by my current girlfriend before going on a first date with her.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Braincels/comments/81ctuj/roastie_gets_roasted/dv2bf2d/

how does this relate to my comment? i think you're insinuating that because this woman cheated, then all women cheat? that's the ultimate cope my friend.

She's settling for you, but she can only truly love Chad.

this is the ultimate cope.

while looks matter a great degree to women in their attraction to men, but the fact you think women can only love chads and can never love anyone else is more of a cope than accepting the fact that women are capable of loving and being faithful to normies. i mean, logically, that argument doesn't make any sense: out of the billions of relationships that have existed, women have cheated EVERY single time upon finding someone better looking? that's false and easy to see why if you possess any common sense.

the truth is that you aren't good enough to be one of those normie men that women are loving and faithful towards, and instead of accepting that, you're blaming all women instead. the ultimate cope.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Braincels/comments/81ctuj/roastie_gets_roasted/dv2bf2d/

deep down inside you're worried she leaves you and you troll here to cope with that fear

nah im not trolling, i do identify with some of the principles that are touted on this sub but not all of them.

"She can only truly love chad" is one of the biggest copes I see around here. Tons of normies are happily married and have fulfilling loving lives. They love each other to bits.

If you are gonna swallow the black pill. Swallow it whole.

cope

So you are referencing one incident out of a million happy normie relationships? Sounds more like confirmation bias to me. So you are coping through confirmation bias.

I am a normie incel and I have been in loving relationships before. It did't work out cause I didnt want to get married too soon. I broke up. Not because Chad came and she left with him. There probably many girls who left for chad, but thats not always the case.

It seems like you are trying to cope by telling yourself that normies can't have good relationships.

You don't know what any of those words mean JFL

Lol the "normie incel" part probably don't make any sense. I don't consider myself normie but I don't consider myseld incel either. So I am in the middle, didn't know what else to say about my identity.

But I do know what confirmation bias is, and you are the perfect example of that my good sir. You gotta stop coping by saying "All normies have cucked relationships" no they don't my boi. Accept the bitter truth my boi, it will set you free.

0/10  Please try again.

I like children.

She's settling for you, but she can only truly love Chad.

I think women can love men other than Chad. However when it comes to sexual attraction/performance you will never compare to Chad.

That one night with Chad may well have been the best sex of her life.

I can't believe that is a better situation in all honesty. You are the definition of being 'settled' for.

I rejected my ex girlfriend before dating her, and I definitely wasn't "settling"... the circumstances were simply not right for me to begin a relationship, and they also were not right for my current girlfriend to begin one at the time, either.

you settled.

Oof

If you don't get IOIs then wrap it up. It's over.

You don't even need to be a fucking casanova to figure it out. I promise you 90% of guys on here would realize that they were receiving IOI's from girls, if girls acted the same way towards them as they do towards Chad. But they never receive IOI's so they basically think a polite smile = SHE WANTS MY DICK or something similar.

Those AskReddit threads titles "Men of Reddit, what signals have you missed?" are so dumb. All those "signals" weren't actually signals, just them wishing it was.

Correct

Yes, the dance of attraction is pervasively obvious from the third person. You'd have to be a blind fool to not notice it. Even normal people know this - that's why they say stuff like "social context" matters.

I keep trying to think of advice to throw in here but can't. I don't know what those signs are, but I know that I've received them, and I haven't misinterpreted them. I think the best advice I can think of off the top of my head is let the conversation die and give her the opportunity to pick it back up. If she doesn't want to talk to you, she definitely doesn't want anything further.

And then yeah, it's clues and context. Laughs, eye contact, if you catch her looking at you while you're looking away.

I learned this which I why I don't approach women and never will. I asked some out in my teens just to say that I asked women out before. Women always approach guys when they want something, like sex from a chad, or money or some sort of gain from an orbiter. I'm happy I don't ask them out. They have to come to me, or nothing.

Literally no man has ever actually approached a girl and been successful. Doesn't happen. Women not only pick they are also the sole initiators.

Also kudos for not approaching women. Solely from the perspective of individual safety that's pretty much the only rational choice.

"Literally no man has ever actually approached a girl and been successful." wot

This isn't a revelation. Arguments from IT users and the alike of this nature usually come from them having nothing to combat our points, other then the bullshit self improvement crap we already make fun of.

Also, if you have to approach dozens and dozens of women and you're convinced it's a "numbers game," you're ugly. Plain and simple.

Well, duh. Through most of human history, our ancestors lived in communities where a man didn't have dozens and dozens of young women to choose from.

If, by the age of 22 (possibly earlier), a girl has not actually tried to kiss you it's over. It was over before you were born but this is proof.

This is the precedent to live by

Not true. I'm a woman and I'm really shy around people i like romantically, so I pretty much never make the first move

Its not about making the first move. Its about indicating interest. Giving signs that you want him to pursue.

Sure

I mean I do...

You become receptive to approach. Eye contact, open body language, provided the guy is good looking. To an incel, we would know full well you don't want us to approach.

Eh.. I mean I hear what you're saying, but even that's questionable, because I tend to avoid looking at etc people I'm interested in.

I have always had to make the first move to get the girl. It was never the other way around. I guess that just proves how unattractive I am.

This is why the number of women that approach you/clearly show interest is a good measurement for your degree of success in the financial and physical realm.

It's true, we're thirsty asf

Making the first move versus letting you know it's okay for you to make the first move are 2 different things. Women rarely risk rejection because their egos are too fragile to handle it. Instead they send signals like hair flips, smiles, giggles, getting in your space, etc.

Then when you approach them they still have that pocket veto in case you're a complete moron and say the wrong things. They almost always maintain plausible deniability and thereby always give themselves an out.(hamster)

When you just plain ignore them like they don't even exist, then they get even more obvious with the IOIs. If you still keep ignoring them, then they either write you off as stupid or get pissed and storm off. That's when you laugh at them and their silly games. Go away little girl, you bother me.

Instead they send signals like hair flips, smiles, giggles, getting in your space, etc.

None of this has ever happened to me.

Legit. Femails will go out of their way to get to you if you are attractive. JFL at these redpillers.

Or maybe if you like idk saw women as people

I see them as people, some call me cute, even have girl hug me every time she sees me, but nothing more than that, they can smell my high estrogen and low t on me. They can never want me as a boyfriend, with my tiny wrists and blond hair, itsover for me.

They really dont because a lot of them just dont care. Also have you ever thought some girls might be into that?

Degenerate whores can f*ck themselves. They deserve death.

Sounds like something a dude who blames other people for his problem would say. Also its always ironic when incels insult others like yalls entire existence is an insult to the male gender.

Kill yourself.

Why? my existence actually means something to other people

Doubt it.

I mean clearly since, yknow, i dont have to spend my time fishing for validation id never otherwise receive in real life.

I don't get any validation I'm too ugly.

Its because you have no value to anyone. Like not even you values you. Its hilarious.

LOL, you're a neckbearded retard.

Not convinced by this. As an extremely shy sub I wouldn't even consider approaching a guy even if I was interested. I've been approached plenty but even then I seem to give off an awkward aura because I just don't flirt like a lot of girls do. To me it feels disingenuous and silly. So essentially I rely on the guy to really want it, make it clear and maintain it, otherwise it won't happen. This is especially true before the 'comfortable' period of a relationship, which for me takes years.

So you just keep men around that you aren't really attracted to until they finally do enough stuff for you after years of effort so you might start dating them? That sounds like the greatest beta orbiting system the world has ever seen.

Naw, that's not what I was trying to say at all.

I dont "keep" anyone around. And it's not about doing "stuff" for me. I have only had two relationships and only slept with those two men and it wasn't because they did 'stuff' for me, it was because we enjoyed each others minds and presence to the point we both wanted to be closer. Getting me to relax around you enough to be comfortable is very difficult and most guys would just get frustrated, move on and keep looking for someone easier and I completely understand that.

I am not interested in being bought and I hope I make that obvious to men. But I am glad to be friends with anyone that is kind with a good sense of humour. If they are only there to sleep with me and I am not reciprocating that then they are welcome to part ways with no hard feelings.

Maybe I am not articulating myself very well? 🙃

Perhaps. Or perhaps there are plenty of women like me. Who could say? I certainly haven't met all women who currently exist, have you?

This is a good way to make sure you end up with guys who are comfortable communicating what they want and intend... something you would benefit from hugely as a sub. Ignore the dysfunctionals in here and keep on keeping-on

Thanks 🙂

Nah, not let you know. Send signs. Since it's mostly guys approaching them many of them have no idea HOW to do it though.

Yall dont get laid cause of shit like this

Agreed. If a girl TRULY wants you, she'll make the effort. She'll go out of her way not to fuck up her chances with a hot guy, you better believe it. If she's distant, next her. If she's unreliable/flakes, next her. If you gotta "work" for her attention, next her.

What if she’s hesitant because she’s afraid?

The majority of those who act like that are not doing it because they're afraid. I really don't care about losing chances with the minority who are, because unlike most here, I'm able to easily replace her with someone else. Too many women out there handing out "chances" to men they have little sexual attraction for, and they continue the same distant/difficult behavior throughout the entire relationship. No thanks. Not interested in that.

ON POINT ON POINT!!!!!B

In bars I used eye contact and some of them would walk up to me. Sometimes I went there, after they nodded. Yes, women approach, of course they do. But not all of them, even if she falls madly in love with you, some of them have this weird rule that the man has to take the first step.

Some women will approach and some won't. Some will give subtle hints. Sometimes the only way you'll know if a girl is interested is if you ask her.

Thing is, there are ~3.5 billion women and they tend to have individual personalities, experiences, and tendencies.

If you are mentally robust enough to not take it personally when someone isnt attracted to you, then you should totally approach women you find interesting. However, if you think attraction is a choice rather than a function of biology and genetics, and if rejection actually hurts your feelings, you shouldn't be walking up to anyone until you get over yourself

https://www.reddit.com/r/Braincels/comments/81ctuj/roastie_gets_roasted/dv2bf2d/

deep down inside you're worried she leaves you and you troll here to cope with that fear

Women don't want to be seen as sluts.

They will not be too obvious and straight up ask you out or say something blatantly sexual, but they are fine with things like initiating conversations, hanging out casually (e.g. studying if you are in school), and being friendly and receptive to you talking to them. None of that is slutty, it is just being friendly and leaving open the possibility of interest.

I am not saying these are guaranteed signs of interest, but if a woman is consistently not receptive, then it's a good sign she is not interested. That is, if she does not keep conversations going, consistently declines invitations to hang out and never suggests alternatives, etc.

Yes this might be a minority of times, but if my chances are 1:100, as a man it's still worth it to take a chance.

For you individually, it may be worth it. But if all men collectively do it, then it hurts men as a group. It makes men look thirsty and tells women they are in high demand, which raises women's standards. If men didn't put women on a pedestal, then maybe women wouldn't have inflated self-perceptions and would evaluate men more generously.

Man i must say that i am a bit of a mentalcel, and that i have tried my luck with almost every girl i know, so i am incel. But i am not hideous, just not model tier. Like average, to maybe even a bit above average if you ask the right girls. And girls will make it so much easier for you if they are interested.

I have kissed a girl once, and i have seen a movie with a girl twice at her home, and both times i almost didn't have to do anything to get there. I have talked to legit Chads for advice before and they were all like, "just play cool and the girls will come it's easy."

The hardest blackpill to swallow is probably that no girls have ever been interested in you if you are less attractive than 60%+ of all men.

nah im not trolling, i do identify with some of the principles that are touted on this sub but not all of them.

Prob because you sound thirsty af and that’s super creepy

Here's advice from a Chad.

Forget about women. Forget about fucking. Stop caring.

Just focus on yourself. Do healthy things. Develop hobbies. Figure out what you really fucking love and go out and do it and find othrr people that love it too and go have fun with them. Just be happy.

Then one day you will be out enjoying your hobby(hobbies) with your friends, not giving a fuck about anything with a huge grin on your face, and you will suddenly be drowning in pussy.

Kill yourself.

Why? my existence actually means something to other people

I mean clearly since, yknow, i dont have to spend my time fishing for validation id never otherwise receive in real life.