Reminder: Women make the first move, game doesn't exist. If a woman is attracted to you, you can say almost anything and it will work.

32  2018-03-01 by Short_Incel_Throw

Normies and Chadlites actually believe that having the right approach matters and is what gets them laid or get a girlfriend.

The truth is that this girl has already decided within seconds whether or not she wants you to pursue her, and she makes it easy for you by being in close proximity, by talking to you often, by texting you often, by trying to schedule dates for you guys to hang out or "study". She has chosen you already, all you have to do is go through with the motions.

As long as you don't say anything ridiculous or talk about how you murder children in their sleep, it doesn't matter what you say or do, she will receive it positively.

If you escalate quickly, she'll think you're bold and confident. If you keep it friendly, she'll think you're a good man who wants to know her personality. She'll laugh at any joke you try to say even if it's not funny.

Meanwhile if you are not attractive, she'll think you're creepy for escalating quickly, and unconfident if you are shy. She won't laugh to any jokes you make.

You can't earn a woman's affections through saying the right words or having the right amount of money or spending the right amount on a date. You're either attractive to her or not.

So the best course of action to do is become more attractive. That is the only guaranteed way to get a woman to choose you and have romance.

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Women are not attracted to 99.9% of men they pass on the street, meanwhile most men are looking at other women.

Hypergamy brah its over

what

Chads can say that they are pedophiles and rape children and have no problems. See the atomic blackpill.

Game exists to some extent. You can't afford to act like a complete autistic retard as a normie, only Chads can do that. For incels it obviously doesn't matter what you do

This is the only sane answer. Chads can do whatever they want, dating wise, and so can women for the most part since they're both in such high demand.

This is true. Which is why I said as long as you don't say anything ridiculous, which implies you have basic social skills that everyone has.

Can you elaborate on how to act like a complete autistic retard?

True. Don't listen to the 'women don't approach first.' people.

Women definitely approach first, but only if you are top tier with some exceptions, or if there is something they want, like money. I've seen it all the time, women approaching chads, asking for dates, numbers.

More posts like this please.

go to r/geneticelites

Why?

Because it also deals with the laws of attraction like this post.

No, it's just another gag/parody sub...

it isnt, everybody there is 100% serious, this has been established

WOMEN ARE THE CHOOSERS

Also, don't believe a word of it when someone tells you "Dude, constant rejection is part of the game. You just have to dust yourself off and keep asking till someone says yes. It's a numbers game bro."

What makes you think treating it as a numbers game is wrong? It is actually a numbers game before anything else. Being able to shrug off rejection isn't easy, so I went to the online dating world and wrote a bot that sends messages out on OKC. Not only does it work faster than I could do it manually, but it also saves me the emotional labor of reading a profile and caring about someone who I don't know and who is likely not going to interact with me in the first place. I just picked all the girls who were visually attractive to me and turned on the bot. Sure only 3% responded, but it would have taken me hours to get to that 3% if I actually read every profile and crafted a unique message for every girl. Doing that shit is for total suckers. Once I got replies, that is where I'd focus my energy and try to get the date. Doesn't get any more numbers game than that.

What makes you think treating it as a numbers game is wrong?

It depends on what you mean by "numbers game." The way it is usually used assumes some realistic probability of success. Conveniently, it is an unstated assumption, so there's no need to justify it.

Link to bot?

Well, it not so much a full bot as it is a macro. Why do I treat it as a numbers game? Because I'm mediocre looking, short, and nerdy. To level the playing field, my thought was to get as much exposure as possible with minimum investment so I don't have to deal with the rejection. I used something like Easy Macro recorder to record my mouse and keyboard activity. I'd look through the pool and pick out the girls that looked good by opening their profile in a new tab. Once I had about 60+ tabs open, I'd run the macro that would select the tab, paste a message, send it, then close the tab. Let it cycle through all the tabs while I enjoy life, then do it all over again. Once you're through the pool, do it again in a few weeks so you're not just spamming the same people over and over. Use a different message each time. If a person gets two messages and asks if you're copy/pasting, just be honest and say you don't copy and paste, and that the program you made to help message girls you match with screwed up. If they don't believe you, who cares? If they make a big deal out of shit like that, it's probably a reason why they single to begin with.

Game is the biggest snake oil in dating, using a female strategy of using promises of relationship to get some betabux. Because lets be honest: Nobody who is not a complete bluepilled beta needs game. You need to be there and look hot.

Amazing how people that have never been laid think they know anything about women lmao

There's some things on this sub I disagree with, but this post is so, so true and I wish more men would understand this.

There are no magical shortcuts or obscure techniques to manipulate people into becoming attracted to you. Looks are the main factor that get your "foot in the door," and personality (actual personality, not some fake persona you can instantly adopt) comes into play once you get to know each other.

People who say "women don't approach" mean that they usually don't cold approach strangers and explicitly ask them out. But they do initiate in less direct ways by showing signs of interest and making themselves available. If a women is really interested in you, you will not have to carefully analyze her subtle hints like a detective to find out. It will be clear, and even if you don't pick up on them initially, she will keep trying and make sure you get it.

The last couple sentences of the post summarize it well. You have to actually be attractive, you can't fake it.

If youre 10/10 chad then yes you can say whatever the fuck you want. However if you aint chad, game can work.

Source: was in fraternity and saw nonchads get laid all the time, including myself.

She won't laugh to any jokes you make.

That part is false. Women laugh all the time at funny things men they would never fuck say. I know from experience.

I think this may be an outright lie

For maybe the top 20% and bottom 30%, an average woman will decide immediately. But for the rest, there is some constant evaluating going on.

But for the rest, there is some constant evaluating going on.

Only if the guy isn't attractive.

a chad could kill a roasties family in front of her very eyes and she would still have sex with him.

It could take some days in between though.

Yikes, if you actually believe this, that’s pretty fucked up.

Oh no, a roastie attacking my morality. You really got me there

Oh no, some dude who literally knows nothing about me. You really got me there

shut up roastie

Wow, do you have any insults except for roastie? Try harder, virgin.

shut up you harlot

And you can't become more attractive since it's based on your genes.

Exactly.

3 showers and 5 haircuts and you're good to go!

and don't forget to put on a suit!

And confidently lift your therapist in the shower

What do you mean?

One that fits!

"This only happens to Chad" is cope. It literally "just happens" for 90% of guys at some point in their life. Many 6/10 pseudo-normies I know met their girlfriends because the girl pursued them (without overtly asking them out but constantly making time to spend with them etc). If a girl has never shown interest in you like this it's over.

I never implied it only happens to Chad.

op is right. your best bet is to hope you are born good looking and/or have some looksmaxing potential.

briffault's law

Reminder that people who think this are retards

This was the best blackpill i've had to accept recently. Women will literally make it SO EASY FOR YOU they like you its funny

or talk about how you murder children in their sleep

No that's fine. So long as you don't joke about rape or domestic violence, you're golden.

I find it funny that I only had to tell 2/3 jokes to her when we first met and now we're together for 2 years. You can't generalize all women to be fair. I tend to be nice and people often like to spend time with me even thought I'm completely fucked up. I'm skinny and average looking. If you study people enough you begin to understand what they truly want and what they don't want. She is the one that usually spends the most money in the relationship since she cares a lot. And I care about her as well. The point I'm trying to make is: try studying from a distance. Understand what they enjoy and what makes them uncomfortable. Not all of them are like this. I happened to be lucky but I knew what she enjoyed. I cared for her and made her laugh. You won't score every single time because there are a lot of bitches that are just like you describe. But thinking that they are all like that is irrational. Good luck for everyone

The only girlfriend I've ever had I got when I wasn't even trying. She came onto me. She was interested in me instantly and actually put in effort to talk to me. We broke up long ago and I went full incel mode since then but yeah...

brehs, if you have to "pursue" women (aka fight for their attention, constantly try to entertain her in your conversations, etc) it's over for you.

this is the true blackpill

Preach! Not enough people know this, spread the word. I have noticed for a long time too that women were the ones who made the first move, and the average man will almost certainly fail if they make the first move, that virtually all relationships come not from men making the first move but women.

There's no subtlety, I've seen how women act towards guys they are attracted to at university more times than i can count, they make it very obvious and you would have to be full blown autistic not to see it.

Two weeks ago at the gym, a girl xane up to my friend and told him he had a nice ass. That's not the first time I've seen women be direct.

It's 2018, women aren't really shamed for being pursuers anymore.

The complete opposite is true. Women almost NEVER (like 99% of the time) make the first move. Women want to be approached and asked out. But you're an incel and never leave the house, so how should you know, right?

They still want you to approach, but only if they've given you a pass to do so. If not then she'll make it super hard for you to talk to her.

Do you really believe every women behave the exact same way? I know women who approach men, women who prefer to be approached, and all sorts of different ways of dating.