Not bad personalities but you know they are a fucking idiot. Who asks someone out in the middle of class? How fucking dumb can you get to do it while you get someone to film you going down on one knee?
Nah I’m banned from IT for calling them out on what was clearly bullying.
But these kids have like zero social skills like none. What kind of girl is gonna to say yes to someone who gets down on one knee? Imagine if a chick did that, your crazy bitch alert alarms would be going off.
Yeah that’s right chad doesn’t need social skills but chads are the top %2 which means the rest of us have to be able to read social cues and not act like fucking morons. Like this kids did.
No body likes anybody who is a self deprecating arsehole. Like you have literally put yourself one level below people who are ugly. Well done. It goes in
Yeah that’s right you probabaly do, and with your shit cunt attitude you have literally limited yourself to the smallest pool of women possible.
There’s women out there who will date funny ugly guys but no one almost literally no one is going to date someone who think kid napping women to make brides is a good fucking idea.
It’s YOUR fault you are part of the least attractive group in the world. It’s YOUR fault you continue to act like a self absorbed cunt and it’s YOUR fault that you won’t ever find anyone if you refuse to change.
If your only goal is to be loved and to find someone to bang you should be doing your best not to be on the very bottom of the ladder.
lol dude i saw dudes ask girls in front of classes and assemblies during high school. It's not dumb at all.
The two guys in this vid probably weren't even friends with the girls they asked out. They just randomly decided that this would be a good idea. Maybe if they spent time building a bond and properly assessing if they had a chance.
100% happens every year when i was in HS. Many HS. There are videos of this shit on youtube. Kids ask each other to homecoming and prom like this all the time. Nah they make an even bigger scene about it.
Uhh nobody is telling you to marry them. They cant rob you shit if you aint married to them.
1. get rich
2. buy yacht
3. have yacht parties
4. make chad friends and invite said chads
5. have chad friends invite bitches
6. repeat and stop inviting bitches that dont put out or chad friends that dont help you get laid.
7. profit
You don't even need 10 years to get comfortable. I majored in CS, did software installations and technical support. I didn't have much of a social life so I took my savings and invested it. Now I only work part-time.
im rich but i cant organise a yacht party because i will be ignored in my own party and no one wants to come to an ugly rich mans party anyway even if he is loaded
yeah but theres a SLIGHT difference. Getting the gf experience from escort = pay her directly. With being rich and having an extravagant lifestyle it's kinda different. You pay for bottle service and all that high end jazz. Sure youre basically spending money on this thot but you dont directly give her the money. That's the difference. Now for the thot to even have a chance at your money, she needs to get you to marry her somehow. You can string the thot around and then shatter her dreams or just use her to gain experience.
The point is, yeah youre spending money on her but ultimately she doesnt have money. And if she aint putting out by lets say 3rd date then you move on. Tons of these thotties around. Being that rich you'll always have women who want to date you for your lifestyle.
I don't see the shame in being wanted for the lifestyle you can provide. It aint betabux as long as you dont marry them.
If you continue to gey rejected over and over, maybe the right thing to do is to change yourself. Find an interesting hobby, go to the gym, focus on your studies. In the end, those things will lead to the results that you seek.
Well, you are obviously doing something wrong. But tell me then: How often do you work out? Which hobbies do you have? How many hours a week do you spend onyour studies? How do you dress? Do you eat properly and stay away from drugs?
I lift 6 times a week, 5' 10" 165 lbs at 12-13% bf, I'm a professional musician and have been on two separate worldwide tours by the time I had turned 18. I got into some of the best schools in the country (before joining the Army) including Northwestern, USC, Harvey Mudd, Tufts, Johns Hopkins, and Carnegie Mellon.
But, I'm unattractive, so women don't care about any of that.
Just get plastic surgery man. Get braces, a good haircut and skincare to if you need. Everyone deserves to be happy. If that means living with your parents and saving up, I think that's well worth it. I'm doing just that right now and plan on flying to a foreign country to have a procedure(s) done. Best of luck.
Anyone who has used r/Incels knows my background, nothing I said is anywhere near impossible. I'm sorry that I have been more fortunate than you, but that doesn't mean its fake lol
That wasn't a question, your post was just fluff for "I don't believe you." Whatever dude, stick to IT and let them convince you that we are all basement dwelling neckbeards.
I wasn't justifying her behaviour, I condemned it in fact. But of the four examples presented in this video only one was overtly hostile, so I think at best you can only say that 25% of women treat incels like crap.
ALL women are crap. Do not deny it. Women seek to persecute incels and these women are proof of it. If you want to step on incels, don't be surprised when they get very angry. You guys are legit scum.
Personality aside, theseguys obviosly did not act as normal people in those clips. Who the hell approaches a girl in the midfle of class and in front of everyone else, and how did that second guy get into hishead that knerling with a rose - againin front of everyone - would lead to a positive outcome?
Come on people, these guys never had a chance.
Probably those guys had already been stamped as "wierd" (and with good reason) a long time ago. No one should expect a result other than rejection in the situations shown in the videos. Furthermore, those boys obviously didn't try to dress properly, had never seen a handweight/a pair of running shoes and were very awkward in their interactions.
Start over and change YOURSELF. If you don't, then you will never see results
I don't see either thing as constants. You can work with either thing to the point where neither is a hiderence on how well you do with women. Again, work on yourself.
Yes, evidently. I am simply pointing out that it should not be a surprise to anyone that unattractive geeks get rejected. Instead of posting pointless videos like these, this community should focus its efforts on how to approach a state in which one can both have at least some of the positive characteristics of a chad and simultaniously keep being a nice human being. And yes, that IS posdible to achieve.
I'm sorry I didn't reply to that loaded question as if I was talking to a five year old child. My smugness, as you perceive it, comes from a philosophy that winners never quit and quitters never win. I'm simply refusing to talk like a quitter.
Getting women is a numbers game for "normal people"(above average guys) otherwise it's there is either no chance(incel teir), or hardly having to do anything(women and chads).
Nah, I was diagnosed with depression at about 12 due to issues with my family. I just decided to try and put my life back together and lo and behold I did.
So why is it that incels have a moral obligation to help a woman that is suffering but women don't have a moral obligation to help incels who are suffering?
Incels are preventable too, if women were to threat people fairly instead of judging them over something they can't control.
It's not an imminent preventable threat.
And keep pretending like you can't control it. The vast majority of you can, and at this point judging by the black pill ideology I find it hard to believe that you're all that hard to look at.
No one really considers not getting laid the same thing as being raped. I'm pretty sure you are even trolling
Being rejected your entire live over something you can't control is suffering.
Again, it's not an immense threat.
It's expected for you to tell man that a train is coming, but it's not expected for you to follow a man to make sure he doesn't get hit by a train later.
If you saw someone about to drink cyanide, you should stop him, but if he is about to do a slow poison that takes years to kill him you don't have to act.
That's why the standard is how imminent the threat is.
Why are you putting so much weight on it being an "imminent preventable threat"?
Incels can be prevented too, and being alone your entire life is a threat to your mental health too.
It's expected for you to tell man that a train is coming, but it's not expected for you to follow a man to make sure he doesn't get hit by a train later.
If you saw someone about to drink cyanide, you should stop him, but if he is about to do a slow poison that takes years to kill him you don't have to act.
And how exactly is this analogous to incelism?
And we do expect society to pull together and create a court system and punish the rapist for his crimes and extensively help the victim. Why doesn't western society pull together to punish women for being psychopaths who ignore the suffering of ugly men?
In fact, ugly men are looked down upon and ridiculed by society. It is all too common to see ugly men called creeps for no reason at all. This is an oppressive and exploitative society.
Why are you putting so much weight on it being an "imminent preventable threat"?
Because that's the standard. You were asking the moral question of "when is one morally obligated to assist another?"
Incels can be prevented too, and being alone your entire life is a threat to your mental health too.
It's expected for you to tell man that a train is coming, but it's not expected for you to follow a man to make sure he doesn't get hit by a train later.
If you saw someone about to drink cyanide, you should stop him, but if he is about to do a slow poison that takes years to kill him you don't have to act.
And how exactly is this analogous to incelism?
Incelism isn't an imminent threat so no one is obligated to act.
And we do expect society to pull together and create a court system and punish the rapist for his crimes and extensively help the victim. Why doesn't western society pull together to punish women for being psychopaths who cause the suffering of ugly men?
In fact, ugly men are looked down upon and ridiculed by society. It is all too common to see ugly men called creeps for no reason at all.
I don't know if that's true. It's a stereotype. Sometimes people live down to their stereotypes. There was a video earlier where a bunch of guys tried all these convoluted public displays of affection toward women they clearly didn't even know and were rejected and a bunch of incels thought that was because they were ugly too.
This is an oppressive and exploitative society that hates incels for no reason at all.
Nope. Incel is a self ascribed label. A person is only an incel when he calls himself an incel so it's voluntary.
Because that's the standard. You were asking the moral question of "when is one morally obligated to assist another?"
"My arbitrary moral system says this is the standard. Checkmate incels"
Incelism isn't an imminent threat so no one is obligated to act.
Can you define imminent?
Is being rejected by a woman imminent?
Why do you put so much arbitrary value on imminent? You're telling me you don't care about the long-term?
Do you only replace a part in your car when it's literally about to break? Do you only go to the doctor when you're literally about to die?
I don't know if that's true. It's a stereotype. Sometimes people live down to their stereotypes. There was a video earlier where a bunch of guys tried all these convoluted public displays of affection toward women they clearly didn't even know and were rejected and a bunch of incels thought that was because they were ugly too.
Do you think incels are rejected because of their looks?
Nope. Incel is a self ascribed label. A person is only an incel when he calls himself an incel so it's voluntary.
Ok, that doesn't change the fact that we are discriminated against over something we can't control.
Because that's the standard. You were asking the moral question of "when is one morally obligated to assist another?"
"My arbitrary moral system says this is the standard. Checkmate incels"
That's not arbitrary at all. find an exception.
Incelism isn't an imminent threat so no one is obligated to act.
Can you define imminent?
Is being rejected by a woman imminent?
No of you wanted to be melodramatic about it, first of all everyone gets rejected, secondly it's more comparable to the slow poison than cyanide.
Being rejected by a woman doesn't cause any imminent threat to your safety.
Why do you put so much arbitrary value on imminent? You're telling me you don't care about the long-term?
That is where a person's expected responsibility ends. You asked what the standard was that determines if a person is responsive over another person and the standard is only if there is an imminent threat. Otherwise it wouldn't be practical. People can't devote their lives to helping everyone.
Do you only replace a part in your car when it's literally about to break? Do you only go to the doctor when you're literally about to die?
Yea but others are responsible. Only the owner is. Or maybe his extended network.
I don't know if that's true. It's a stereotype. Sometimes people live down to their stereotypes. There was a video earlier where a bunch of guys tried all these convoluted public displays of affection toward women they clearly didn't even know and were rejected and a bunch of incels thought that was because they were ugly too.
Do you think incels are rejected because of their looks?
It's a case by case thing. Plenty of people who are more conventionally attractive than I am are here and on other lookist / incels complaining.
Nope. Incel is a self ascribed label. A person is only an incel when he calls himself an incel so it's voluntary.
Ok, that doesn't change the fact that we are discriminated against over something we can't control.
Yes you can, just stop calling identifying yourself as an incel. Then no one who talks trans about incels will be talking about you
You're saying we shouldn't help poor people as a society since most poor people aren't starving or have acute medical issues.
No of you wanted to be melodramatic about it, first of all everyone gets rejected, secondly it's more comparable to the slow poison than cyanide.
Why are more emotional, long-term afflictions not important in your moral system, especially when they can lead to very imminent threats to their life such as suicide?
Being rejected by a woman doesn't cause any imminent threat to your safety.
What is more dangerous in your eyes, a threat to someones freedom or a lack of sex?
Let's say there is a kidnapping occurring. The kidnappers are not going to harm the victim, they're just going to hold him hostage(i.e restrict his freedom). Does anyone have a moral obligation to intervene?
That is where a person's expected responsibility ends. You asked what the standard was that determines if a person is responsive over another person and the standard is only if there is an imminent threat. Otherwise it wouldn't be practical. People can't devote their lives to helping everyone.
No one said they have to devote their lifes. They just have to be fair.
Yea but others are not responsible. Only the owner is. Or maybe his extended network.
So taxation is immoral?
It's a case by case thing. Plenty of people who are more conventionally attractive than I am are here and on other lookist / incels sites complaining.
That's great to hear.
Yes you can, just stop calling identifying yourself as an incel. Then no one who talks trans about incels will be talking about you
I self-identified as incel after I was being rejected over something I can't control.
You're saying we shouldn't help poor people as a society since most poor people aren't starving or have acute medical issues.
Well, yea. The welfare state is very controversial. I don't agree with it.
No of you wanted to be melodramatic about it, first of all everyone gets rejected, secondly it's more comparable to the slow poison than cyanide.
Why are more emotional, long-term afflictions not important in your moral system, especially when they can lead to very imminent threats to their life such as suicide?
It's not my moral system. It's the standard. People are not expected to act unless there is an imminent threat.
Being rejected by a woman doesn't cause any imminent threat to your safety.
What is more dangerous in your eyes, a threat to someones freedom or a lack of sex?
Lack of sex isn't dangerous at all.
Let's say there is a kidnapping occurring. The kidnappers are not going to harm the victim, they're just going to hold him hostage(i.e restrict his freedom). Does anyone have a moral obligation to intervene?
If he's already been kidnapped then it's no longer an imminent threat since the kidnapping had already occurred. At the point where he was being dragged off, if people saw it happen in public that would be an imminent threat. Afterward random people are no longer obligated to act. So it's his friends and family that are obligated to help him.
This is basic pragmatism. I'm not constantly out looking for missing people. No one expects that of me.
That is where a person's expected responsibility ends. You asked what the standard was that determines if a person is responsive over another person and the standard is only if there is an imminent threat. Otherwise it wouldn't be practical. People can't devote their lives to helping everyone.
No one said they have to devote their lifes. They just have to be fair.
Youve yet to device a system that would be fair and wouldn't take away freedom of choice.
And you're acting like all women are shallow floozies because of all the BP propaganda. There will and always has been a certain subset of incels. And they're always rallied against the people. Why do you think Islamo terrorists are promised 72 virgins?
Yea but others are not responsible. Only the owner is. Or maybe his extended network.
So taxation is immoral?
Its a necessary evil and most taxes aren't fair at all. Regressive taxes aren't fair.
Legal frameworks exist because the people chose to have a common lowest baseline standard.
The vast majority of legal systems aren't moral at all.
We're all basically taught and expect politics is immoral which is part of the actual problem.
It's a case by case thing. Plenty of people who are more conventionally attractive than I am are here and on other lookist / incels sites complaining.
That's great to hear.
Yes you can, just stop calling identifying yourself as an incel. Then no one who talks trans about incels will be talking about you
I self-identified as incel after I was being rejected over something I can't control.
Well people hate self ascribed incels because it's a hate group.
Well, yea. The welfare state is very controversial. I don't agree with it.
So you don't think we should help poor people and minorities as a society?
It's not my moral system. It's the standard. People are not expected to act unless there is an imminent threat.
Yes it is your moral system, and no our society acts all the time at "slow-working poisons".
Lack of sex isn't dangerous at all.
Maslows hierarchy of needs puts sex before freedom. A life of loneliness absolutely is dangerous to any individuals mental health.
Seriously. Debate me on this. What makes you think being alone your entire life is good for you?
If he's already been kidnapped then it's no longer an imminent threat since the kidnapping had already occurred. At the point where he was being dragged off, if people saw it happen in public that would be an imminent threat. Afterward random people are no longer obligated to act. So it's his friends and family that are obligated to help him.
So if a man was being held hostage in your neighbours house, you have no obligation to do anything?
Let me ask you a question. How is being raped an imminent threat to your safety? Rapes only harm people if they fight back.
And while we're at it, what do you think of the police? Should they be allowed to arrest people and restrict on their freedoms? Are police an imminent threat?
If your answer is no, why are you fine with the police hurting people for public gain? If yes, are you an anarchist?
This is basic pragmatism. I'm not constantly out looking for missing people. No one expects that of me.
There is nothing unpragmatic about a woman being fair to an incel. Nobody is saying she has to hunt down incels and fuck them. All she has to do is be fair. There is nothing incompatible about a woman being with an incel instead of a goodlooking man.
Youve yet to device a system that would be fair and wouldn't take away freedom of choice.
My moral system is based on reciprocation. For example; I wouldn't want to be killed, so I don't kill other people.
If I was suffering because of sexual loneliness, I would want to be helped by a woman. And in return if a woman was suffering I would help her, be it to call the police if I see her getting raped.
And you're acting like all women are shallow floozies because of all the BP propaganda. There will and always has been a certain subset of incels. And they're always rallied against the people. Why do you think Islamo terrorists are promised 72 virgins?
I don't care why ISIS members want to blow themselves up. We're talking about incels right now.
Its a necessary evil and most taxes aren't fair at all. Regressive taxes aren't fair.
Legal frameworks exist because the people chose to have a common lowest baseline standard.
The vast majority of legal systems aren't moral at all.
We're all basically taught and expect politics is immoral which is part of the actual problem.
Just answer my questions. Is taxation immoral? Is hurting people for the common good immoral?
Well people hate self ascribed incels because it's a hate group.
Well, yea. The welfare state is very controversial. I don't agree with it.
So you don't think we should help poor people and minorities as a society?
The welfare is about poor people and people with disabilities. It doesn't have anything to do with minorities. And no I don't think the state should interfere with that. Its rife with corruption and is designed to keep the system stratified. It doesn't really help the poor. It helps the middle class. The bureaucracy filters out the poor E g. You can't gain access to community health care unless you make enough money to prove that you have steady income, it steals money and claims to store it in your SS account then you're denied help for at least 2 months. Those who really need it can't wait 2 months so the only ones who can afford to claim it are the middle class again etc. And the money just gets stolen then they get the media to fool people into forgetting where the money comes from and we now have people convinced that old people are trying to get "free money" when it's their own money that was stolen from them under false pretenses from every paycheck they every received.
At this point SS is pretty well known as a deliberate shit show.
It's not my moral system. It's the standard. People are not expected to act unless there is an imminent threat.
Yes it is your moral system, and no our society acts all the time at "slow-working poisons".
Lack of sex isn't dangerous at all.
Maslows hierarchy of needs puts sex before freedom. A life of loneliness absolutely is dangerous to any individuals mental health.
Maslow a hierarchy of needs isn't "true" it's just a guideline that was agreed upon by psychologists who are still figuring it out. But everything above safety is up to the individual to secure. The state can't give you friends either.
Seriously. Debate me on this. What makes you think being alone your entire life is good for you?
Some people handle it fine actually, but regardless as adults we are all responsible for ourselves and are only expected to help each other either when there is an imminent threat, or through taxation in order to maintain the agreed upon framework.
If he's already been kidnapped then it's no longer an imminent threat since the kidnapping had already occurred. At the point where he was being dragged off, if people saw it happen in public that would be an imminent threat. Afterward random people are no longer obligated to act. So it's his friends and family that are obligated to help him.
So if a man was being held hostage in your neighbours house, you have no obligation to do anything?
Yes because then it goes back to imminent threat again. If someone is being held hostage his safety is in question.
Let me ask you a question. How is being raped an imminent threat to your safety? Rapes only harm people if they fight back.
Nope. The rape is obviously harm in itself. Rape is a physical act.
And while we're at it, what do you think of the police? Should they be allowed to arrest people and restrict on their freedoms? Are police an imminent threat?
No. And yes. The police are an imminent threat. They are the product of prohibition which was also terrible. The police didn't become a thing until the early 1900s. Cities started hiring their own thugs just like corporations hired Pinkertons.
A lot of people forget that the vast majority of american history we didn't even have police. We had elected sheriff's and their deputies.
If your answer is no, why are you fine with the police hurting people for public gain? If yes, are you an anarchist?
What? The police aren't the law. What are you saying? The police are just the private security for the mayor of each city.
This is basic pragmatism. I'm not constantly out looking for missing people. No one expects that of me.
There is nothing unpragmatic about a woman being fair to an incel. Nobody is saying she has to hunt down incels and fuck them. All she has to do is be fair. There is nothing incompatible about a woman being with an incel instead of a goodlooking man.
There are plenty of men who aren't good looking who have wives. The lms thing is a cope. Again, you're pretending like all women are shallow gold digger floozies from the 50s.
Youve yet to device a system that would be fair and wouldn't take away freedom of choice.
My moral system is based on reciprocation. For example; I wouldn't want to be killed, so I don't kill other people.
Okay. Then why are you trying to claim that women need to fuck incels? There are plenty of gay men who would likely wanna do stuff to you.
If I was suffering because of sexual loneliness, I would want to be helped by a woman. And in return if a woman was suffering I would help her, be it to call the police if I see her getting raped.
Okay. But to be frank you're admitting that you aren't a genuinely good person. If everyone only wanted to help others because they themselves expected something in return no one would help any one. It's be a zero sum game.
And you're acting like all women are shallow floozies because of all the BP propaganda. There will and always has been a certain subset of incels. And they're always rallied against the people. Why do you think Islamo terrorists are promised 72 virgins?
I don't care why ISIS members want to blow themselves up. We're talking about incels right now.
We're talking a subset of men who have always existed and have always been used to promote evil. You have to really question the propaganda you are buying into and what agenda it really serves.
Its a necessary evil and most taxes aren't fair at all. Regressive taxes aren't fair.
Legal frameworks exist because the people chose to have a common lowest baseline standard.
The vast majority of legal systems aren't moral at all.
We're all basically taught and expect politics is immoral which is part of the actual problem.
Just answer my questions. Is taxation immoral? Is hurting people for the common good immoral?
I did answer. Taxation is amoral. It's a thing. Only intention is moral or immoral. Things are not inherently moral or immoral.
Hurting people for the common good is immoral because it's an act with an intention. If it isn't intended to hurt people then it is no longer immoral, just bad.
Well people hate self ascribed incels because it's a hate group.
Nope.
Go look up the word incel on YouTube or Google and see what people think. It do want just mean a man who is struggling.
They don’t like to do it the normal way. They like to be as creepy as possible by asking them out in front of the entire class without even knowing them that well. I don’t know what else you’d expect by taking an approach like that.
I forgot where I read or maybe saw it but it seems like too many guys among millenials see themselves as the protagonist of a movie with a romance angle lazily written in.
What do they expect to happen? No way in hell would they say yes when propositioned like that, this isn't a marriage proposal. Jesus christ.
The fact that these guys here see it as normal is enlightening.
I was challenging your bit about "a few". If you would've said that "a few relative to general population", then I wouldn't have a problem with what you've said.
You're reducing my point to absurdity. Nothing is absolute black and white and this is no exception.
Public speeches meant to inspire and energize might not and usually aren't direct. But they are not compressed either. Cool to see your inability to argue as always though.
I didn't watch the video but if someone ever does some thing like that the couple already has a history like the other guy said. You don't just spring out of the blue. And old man? How old do you think I am?
I was referring to the kids in the video. And by “the normal way” I meant getting to know the girl before asking her out in front of the entire class. They’re just setting themselves up for failure.
Two of the girls in the video said they were already taken. That shows that the guys didn’t even know the girls enough to know that they were taken. How is it friendzoning if the girls were off limits in the first place?
They would have a lot better of a chance with these girls if they would have gotten to know them first. Instead of pressuring them in front of the class. Nobody starts out as “boyfriend and girlfriend”. They get to know each other first, and then turn that into a relationship.
So you’re saying most relationships start with asking a girl out, even without knowing them? Usually there is chemistry involved. People start with going on dates usually, and then progress that into a relationship. I don’t understand why you think that’s wrong lol
Pretty sure 2 of the girls in the video just said that they were taken and that was it. How much more polite would you like it to get? It’s only humiliation because they chose to do it in front of the class.
I’m not blaming anyone? I’m just saying he was only humiliated because he chose to do that in front of the class. If he would have spoken to her on a more private level, then it wouldn’t have been near as humiliating.
If you were friends with someone, and looking for a relationship with them, wouldn’t you try to at least know their relationship status before asking them out in front of the entire class?
Out of all my friends(admittedly not too many) I only know the relationship status of one and that is because 1) I partly caused it and 2) she is overreacting about being single but now she slowed down on that so I'm not even sure if she's single anymore.
True, majority of the population isn't autistic but why should one adhere to totally arbitrary social graces when they could be forgoed with no harm with regards to mutual understanding?
Compression is necessary but not always. Besides, being direct doesn't mean being verbose.
Compression is always preferred. In mass com the amount of compression is what is called eloquence. And compression doesn't always even mean using fewer words, not necessarily. Timing also plays a role.
Ideally we'd all speak like poets but instead we just do our best by mostly borrowing from the ports who invented our language.
Engineering languages can be poetry, it all depends on your perception of art and beauty.
Not really. Not unless it is used as poetry more like a gimmick
No, that's just because you're bad with subtext... I genuinely am wondering if you are autistic. But you're always semi trolling anyway so I never really know if you're serious.
No, that's just because you're bad with subtext...
Well...
Ever heard an expression "veiled insult"? It's an insult that is harmless on the surface but has a different intended meaning, which an addressee is supposed to recognize.
Lol you IT guys can’t even be consistent can you? Technically, if you want to get consent from women, you have to ask them right?. No wonder all the metoo victims were all normies, you guys thought you could “fly under the radar” into a woman’s pants. LOL
Lol you IT guys can’t even be consistent can you? Technically, if you want to get consent from women, you have to ask them right?.
Are you confusing rape with asking someone out?
Being direct doesn't mean being autistic. It means understanding that presentation matters. The way you talk to someone is all about presentation subtext context and timing.
Presentation sets the context, and the words along with the presentation and context creates subtext. Timing is choosing is choosing when and where.
No wonder all the metoo victims were all normies, you guys thought you could “fly under the radar” into a woman’s pants. LOL
triggers inceltears bad memories but they refuse to believe they have no chance with women and are incels in denial so they are downvoting this post out of rage
The first three were probably lies anyway which makes it sound like they were just saying it because they're afraid to say the truth and losing an orbiter.
If she mutes her phone around orbiters and doesn't use it and instead tries to just make everything as quick of a transaction as possible the orbiters won't know. Like what would the signs be?
I've never had a girl complain to me about her boyfriend, it's like women don't even trust me to talk about the simplest things once they get to know me.
For me it just feels like they don't even want to use me as a shoulder to cry on, they hardly even talk about their life so we run out of things to say really quickly which is why it feels like they are only financially using me. I feel like at least being emotionally used would be a step up.
I just think of it as paying for a service, I never pay for things that don't directlly result in me spending time with her and her having something keeping her with me for the time being instead of flaking out after I pay to see how much more she could get away with, driving them somewhere while you are already with them with my own fuel is a perfectly safe option because you are guaranteed to have them with you for at least half the time you spend driving, going out to eat is also decent option because if they they ditch you halfway through you still get extra food instead of their time.
I know when I'm being used financially, what confuses me is when the same ones who use me financially offer to just to talk or something when it's clear they aren't attracted to me and aren't even willing to open up enough to use me emotionally as anything other than validation.
Insist your opponent is missing your point (even if you're attacking their point and not even making one yourself). Then, instead of making any attempt whatsoever to clarify said point, complain and then stomp out of the room.
If ever asked to clarify or repeat something, pretend you're too good to spend your time doing it even if you've just complained about being misunderstood. Bonus points if you keep replying without clarifying multiple times. Especially after declaring yourself finished with a conversation.
Why should I repeat myself for you, exactly? I made my point, you ignored it and acted like coy cunt about it, the convo was already dead then and there.
-repeated insistence of a nonexistent point-repeated refusal to clarify-implying too good to waste the effort but apparently not too good to keep replying just to whine-I'm Done. Just kidding I'm back. x2
But while I've got you here why not just clarify whatever point I apparently missed. You don't seem to have anything better to do.
I'm not saying we'll end up agreeing, but we'd be able to figure out where and why we disagree. I personally don't believe you actually have point you think I missed, so try me.
The point I'm making is that, a girl cruely rejecting a guy for the sake of an ego boost is not something that falls under the moniker of “normal“. You then applied that onto life in general and acted like a cunt about it.
You said it's normal and something to be expected.
Eh. I'd beg to differ in some sense because we're talking specifically about rejection and people being cunts about it.
Girls cruelly rejecting guys for the sake of an ego boost is actually typical in my experience, no argument from me there. Never heard that phrase before, then again im not english.
What you're doing is acting cordial to you? Jesus.
Well, that explains why you called me a coy cunt for extrapolating on your suggestion that such behavior was 'abnormal'.
We might be reaching the end of our discussion. I don't disagree the fourth clip is one where someone was being a cunt. Without a doubt.
But 3 polite rejections and 1 cruel one, I would say that is definitely within a typical ratio. I imagine it's a worse ratio for uglier men. Especially creepy ugly.
And I have totally been cordial. Aside from a little cheekiness, I've been a goddamned gentlemen.
But you called me a coy cunt because you were using normality in a different way then I was. You meant morality when I meant typicality. I think it was a genuine misunderstanding. One I thought got cleared up rather well.
You keep trying to be mean, but I'm just having a discussion.
I don't know the ratio for an incel, but I would imagine the topic video is a poor representation of the rejection incels receive and is rather an example of normal every day rejection.
Nice ninja. Oh i see the previous comments. You attached my point in a few ways and I gave them responses.
For at least one of your counter arguments, you found my response insufficient. Do I know which? No.
Do you actually even know? I doubt it. Usually when people claim the other person has missed something but give no effort to actually clarify it, they're just trying to exit the discussion 'gracefully'.
I’m referring to the kids in the video, and by “the normal way”, I meant by getting to know the girl first, instead of asking them out in front of everyone in the class. That is just setting yourself up for failure.
Some of the girls said they had boyfriend’s in the video, so it should have been pretty obvious that they were off limits. Instead, they asked the girls out without even really knowing them that well.
Definitely man. I just fear that the more it turns back into home, the increasing danger of a ban returns. But, I'm gonna enjoy it while it lasts. I didn't really care for the .me site. But If this sub continues to gain steam I'll be glad.
That's fucking bullshit. Of course everyone has emotions. That's the whole point! If you didn't, you wouldn't need to get over them.
Do you think you're somehow unique in having feelings and feeling bad when rejected?
No, you're not. There's two ways to deal with rejection: never try again and live your life in your small shell, never flourishing, or accepting it and moving on.
I was talking about that. You are going to give a fuck about it for a while, most people will and it will hurt more if you keep getting rejected (assuming one is not trying to date people out of their league).
Do you think you're somehow unique in having feelings and feeling bad when rejected?
When did I ever imply that?
or accepting it and moving on
Yes but don't act like it's not gonna hurt someone's self esteem for a while.
Don't want to stretch it out so here it goes:
I go to Chad friends house for a "party", I tell my crush I like her and that we should hang out sometime, 10 Minutes later she is making out with Chad friend.
She was a legit chubby 4/10 and I only liked her because I thought she had a nice personality. I literally fell for the personality meme.
Been there too, guy was a 2/10 though. Seemed nice, so I said I liked him when I was still in hs and asked if he liked me and he said I was ew :') RIP not only guys go through this shit, it sucks though
Lol, same. Chad-ish lab partner decides to troll me. Tells an extremely hot girl he knows (don't know how he knows her) that I wanted to date her (I didn't. Never talked to her, interacted, even looked at, etc.). She loudly screams "ew" and quickly walks away. Honestly, I thought her reaction was funny and didn't mind it. I was pissed at the guy though for trying to humiliate me in public.
Looks to me like people asking someone out/to be a valentine without any context to know if there was interest from the girl being asked.
Simple fact of the matter is, some people get more rejection than others and there are a lot of factors. One is how many times you try, and two is with whom you’re trying. More and more factors from there.
Feel free to keep pretending all you’re ever told is shower and improve personality.
Don't even talk to women, it's pointless. Even if they approach you about helping them with something, just ignore them. There has never been a class of people in history more cruel and oppressive than females.
Here's what you guys have a hard time understanding. Us "normies" get rejected all the time too, and it's just as embarrassing. Personally, I've felt completely humiliated by several women in my life. It hurts a lot, but you brush yourself off and move on. No need to let it ruin your life, especially if it happened in high school. I assure you, no matter how much embarrassing shit you did, no matter how much of a bad reputation you got for being a weirdo, creep, or loser.... none of it matters after you graduate.
Overblown. You add the music and its devastating. The secret is to not look like such a tool when they say no. Just be cool about it and move the fuck on. Who cares if they are laughing? Take that No like a man. That one dude couldnt even look at her after . That is cringey as fuck! You are putting the cart before the horse here. I bet none of these girls had any idea who these guys were before they got approached. Your game is weak! DO THE PREGAME WORK SUCKA
From Everything i have learned they are probably gonna be more interested in you if you just treat them like shit, call them cum Buckets and walk Off. I feel like they loose interest as soon as they know they can get you
This guy is a hero, he's better than you will ever be. He tried his luck and he has probably a girlfriend now. This is what you losers don't understand, rejection is normal, even for good looking guys.
If she mutes her phone around orbiters and doesn't use it and instead tries to just make everything as quick of a transaction as possible the orbiters won't know. Like what would the signs be?
You're reducing my point to absurdity. Nothing is absolute black and white and this is no exception.
Public speeches meant to inspire and energize might not and usually aren't direct. But they are not compressed either. Cool to see your inability to argue as always though.
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1 uglyindianincel 2018-02-28
Pure blackpill. Cucktears will say that these guys had bad personalities.
1 Aussie_Seacucumber 2018-02-28
Not bad personalities but you know they are a fucking idiot. Who asks someone out in the middle of class? How fucking dumb can you get to do it while you get someone to film you going down on one knee?
1 uglyindianincel 2018-02-28
Oh look who it is inceltear femoid. You cannot deny that this kid has been scarred for life. You disgust me.
1 Aussie_Seacucumber 2018-02-28
Nah I’m banned from IT for calling them out on what was clearly bullying.
But these kids have like zero social skills like none. What kind of girl is gonna to say yes to someone who gets down on one knee? Imagine if a chick did that, your crazy bitch alert alarms would be going off.
1 uglyindianincel 2018-02-28
I would gladly take that women and father children with her. Chad does not need social skills.
1 Aussie_Seacucumber 2018-02-28
Yeah that’s right chad doesn’t need social skills but chads are the top %2 which means the rest of us have to be able to read social cues and not act like fucking morons. Like this kids did.
1 uglyindianincel 2018-02-28
It does not matter. Women do not like ugly incels and this is a fact. No amount of social skills can fix this.
1 Aussie_Seacucumber 2018-02-28
No body likes anybody who is a self deprecating arsehole. Like you have literally put yourself one level below people who are ugly. Well done. It goes in
Ugly Arsehole
Ugly person boring personality
Normal Arsehole
Ugly person funny personality
Normal Normie
Basic Chad
Funny Normal
Arsehole Chad
Funny Chad
See where you put yourself?
1 uglyindianincel 2018-02-28
That is not how it works. I am as ugly as it gets. Women run when they see me.
1 Aussie_Seacucumber 2018-02-28
That’s right and your self deprecating so it means your the least attractive. I added some labels for reference.
1 uglyindianincel 2018-02-28
I look like a terrorist and there is nothing redeeming other than the fact that I scare femoids.
1 Aussie_Seacucumber 2018-02-28
Yeah that’s right you probabaly do, and with your shit cunt attitude you have literally limited yourself to the smallest pool of women possible.
There’s women out there who will date funny ugly guys but no one almost literally no one is going to date someone who think kid napping women to make brides is a good fucking idea.
It’s YOUR fault you are part of the least attractive group in the world. It’s YOUR fault you continue to act like a self absorbed cunt and it’s YOUR fault that you won’t ever find anyone if you refuse to change.
If your only goal is to be loved and to find someone to bang you should be doing your best not to be on the very bottom of the ladder.
Step 1. Stop being a self deprecating cunt.
1 uglyindianincel 2018-02-28
When did I say I was going to kidnap a bride?
There is nothing I can do to change. Woman have made me a very cold person. I will get what I rightfully deserve. A nice virgin femoid for my own use.
1 Stagetail 2018-02-28
Ban this harassing bully whore.
1 Aussie_Seacucumber 2018-02-28
Go on make it a safe space and then turn and whine about SJW’s doing the same.
1 Stagetail 2018-02-28
Idgaf what SJWs do.
1 whoareyou31 2018-02-28
lol dude i saw dudes ask girls in front of classes and assemblies during high school. It's not dumb at all.
The two guys in this vid probably weren't even friends with the girls they asked out. They just randomly decided that this would be a good idea. Maybe if they spent time building a bond and properly assessing if they had a chance.
1 Aussie_Seacucumber 2018-02-28
I never once saw or heard of it happening, most be an American thing.
1 whoareyou31 2018-02-28
100% happens every year when i was in HS. Many HS. There are videos of this shit on youtube. Kids ask each other to homecoming and prom like this all the time. Nah they make an even bigger scene about it.
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
"developing a bond" - you mean getting friendzoned?
1 whoareyou31 2018-02-28
uhh... theyre batting way out of their league is the issue.
1 uglyindianincel 2018-02-28
We have not even seen what some of the girls look like. I also though that looks did not matter according to you guys.
1 whoareyou31 2018-02-28
Looks fucking matter. Just not 100% of the equation. What % you ask? Nobody fucking knows. Everybody has their own preference and a different %.
Attractiveness is a complicated equation with several different variables that varies from person to person.
1 uglyindianincel 2018-02-28
You are coping. There is no hope for ugly brown incels.
1 whoareyou31 2018-02-28
yeah there is, you aint got looks? You probably aint got height either. Or personality. Well guess what? Go become rich and you'll have a shot.
1 uglyindianincel 2018-02-28
I look like a terrorist that is all I have. I am short. I have nothing, but women have robbed me of everything I have.
1 whoareyou31 2018-02-28
Uhh nobody is telling you to marry them. They cant rob you shit if you aint married to them. 1. get rich 2. buy yacht 3. have yacht parties 4. make chad friends and invite said chads 5. have chad friends invite bitches 6. repeat and stop inviting bitches that dont put out or chad friends that dont help you get laid. 7. profit
1 uglyindianincel 2018-02-28
I will never be that rich. The only way I can make lots of money is by living in Saudicel Arabia.
1 whoareyou31 2018-02-28
go into computer science and spend 10 years getting rich.
1 uglyindianincel 2018-02-28
I sucked at basic computer science stuff. It was bad.
1 Board_Gaming 2018-02-28
You don't even need 10 years to get comfortable. I majored in CS, did software installations and technical support. I didn't have much of a social life so I took my savings and invested it. Now I only work part-time.
1 not_good_looking 2018-02-28
im rich but i cant organise a yacht party because i will be ignored in my own party and no one wants to come to an ugly rich mans party anyway even if he is loaded
1 whoareyou31 2018-02-28
have you tried? Try it first and start by inviting instagram hoes.
Hella people would go to a yacht party. Half the time bitches go to yacht parties they dont even know whos the host, nonetheless, an ugly host.
If you rich then you can also hire 1-2 chads to wingman you.
1 not_good_looking 2018-02-28
im rich and it doesn't help, all women want is my money. they dont even want to fuck me to get it.
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
Oh nice, so just bust your ass to have a chance with a gold digger. Yeah, no.
1 whoareyou31 2018-02-28
Nobody is asking you marry these thots. Say whatever you have to to sleep with them who gives a shit. Yacht parties are fucking fun too you know?
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
No I don't, I don't have a yacht.
1 WhiteBlackPurple 2018-02-28
WAY too much effort. Do you know how many escorts you could bang for the money a yacht costs? Lol If you are seriously considering this.
1 whoareyou31 2018-02-28
yeah but theres a SLIGHT difference. Getting the gf experience from escort = pay her directly. With being rich and having an extravagant lifestyle it's kinda different. You pay for bottle service and all that high end jazz. Sure youre basically spending money on this thot but you dont directly give her the money. That's the difference. Now for the thot to even have a chance at your money, she needs to get you to marry her somehow. You can string the thot around and then shatter her dreams or just use her to gain experience.
The point is, yeah youre spending money on her but ultimately she doesnt have money. And if she aint putting out by lets say 3rd date then you move on. Tons of these thotties around. Being that rich you'll always have women who want to date you for your lifestyle.
I don't see the shame in being wanted for the lifestyle you can provide. It aint betabux as long as you dont marry them.
1 not_good_looking 2018-02-28
yeah its not 100%...just 99%
1 whoareyou31 2018-02-28
nope not even 99%
cope harder
1 Tallguy_87 2018-02-28
But looks don't matter it's all about
P E R S O N A L I T Y
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
Already saying that.
1 uglyindianincel 2018-02-28
Of course they would say this. They cannot handle the fact that the blackpill is true.
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
Unfortunately, they legit can't understand that once you go through this 30-40 times, you just don't want to do that again.
1 BF8211 2018-02-28
B-but...getting rejected dozens of times is supposed to do the opposite of crushing your confidence and devastating your self esteem, right? Right!?
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
Well, if you're a masochist or have particularly high levels of T without being attractive - then sure.
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-02-28
I mean I see it as just the expected result happening, I just don't get why anyone would want to waste their time going after those rejections.
1 AnthroBuL 2018-02-28
If you continue to gey rejected over and over, maybe the right thing to do is to change yourself. Find an interesting hobby, go to the gym, focus on your studies. In the end, those things will lead to the results that you seek.
1 BF8211 2018-02-28
Keep assuming that I'm a fat, basement dwelling neckbeard I love it
1 AnthroBuL 2018-02-28
Well, you are obviously doing something wrong. But tell me then: How often do you work out? Which hobbies do you have? How many hours a week do you spend onyour studies? How do you dress? Do you eat properly and stay away from drugs?
1 BF8211 2018-02-28
I lift 6 times a week, 5' 10" 165 lbs at 12-13% bf, I'm a professional musician and have been on two separate worldwide tours by the time I had turned 18. I got into some of the best schools in the country (before joining the Army) including Northwestern, USC, Harvey Mudd, Tufts, Johns Hopkins, and Carnegie Mellon.
But, I'm unattractive, so women don't care about any of that.
1 AnthroBuL 2018-02-28
They do. I have plenty of "ugly" friends, who get laid with much fewer credentials. It must have something to do with attitude or charisma, I guess
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
bwahahahaha, such a predictable response.
1 BF8211 2018-02-28
They probably aren’t ugly then.
1 stronglydislikeweebs 2018-02-28
Just get plastic surgery man. Get braces, a good haircut and skincare to if you need. Everyone deserves to be happy. If that means living with your parents and saving up, I think that's well worth it. I'm doing just that right now and plan on flying to a foreign country to have a procedure(s) done. Best of luck.
1 WhyNotLayDownAndRot 2018-02-28
numales BTFO
1 jdc5294 2018-02-28
I’ll take things that are creative writing assignments for $400, Alex.
1 BF8211 2018-02-28
Anyone who has used r/Incels knows my background, nothing I said is anywhere near impossible. I'm sorry that I have been more fortunate than you, but that doesn't mean its fake lol
1 jdc5294 2018-02-28
I’m not saying it’s impossible, I’m saying in this particular instance it’s at best a gross exaggeration of the truth.
1 BF8211 2018-02-28
What you're saying is that it's fake because you don't believe it.
1 jdc5294 2018-02-28
Rgr
1 BF8211 2018-02-28
That wasn't a question, your post was just fluff for "I don't believe you." Whatever dude, stick to IT and let them convince you that we are all basement dwelling neckbeards.
1 VonMagnar 2018-02-28
Doesn't need to. This user is a creepyPMs brigader by the looks of it, they probably already have that notion in mind.
1 wazzap_dude 2018-02-28
studyceling is one of the worst things you can do as a young man if you want dates and girls love drug addicts
fuck outta here
1 AnthroBuL 2018-02-28
Its an investment. Later on you won't be a loser without a job wasting his time smoking pot.
1 wazzap_dude 2018-02-28
true :/
1 bopoll 2018-02-28
That women fuck
1 narutomanreigns 2018-02-28
Well, some of them already had boyfriends. That's a valid reason to reject someone.
That girl calling that dude a burnt sweet potato is fucked up, not gonna lie. But that woman being an asshole doesn't make all women assholes.
1 uglyindianincel 2018-02-28
Nice cope. Most women treat incels like crap. Stop trying to justify their behavior.
1 narutomanreigns 2018-02-28
I wasn't justifying her behaviour, I condemned it in fact. But of the four examples presented in this video only one was overtly hostile, so I think at best you can only say that 25% of women treat incels like crap.
1 uglyindianincel 2018-02-28
ALL women are crap. Do not deny it. Women seek to persecute incels and these women are proof of it. If you want to step on incels, don't be surprised when they get very angry. You guys are legit scum.
1 narutomanreigns 2018-02-28
Just for the record, I'm a guy not a girl.
1 iQ9k 2018-02-28
lol @ believing these girls actually had boyfriends. COPE
1 AnthroBuL 2018-02-28
Personality aside, theseguys obviosly did not act as normal people in those clips. Who the hell approaches a girl in the midfle of class and in front of everyone else, and how did that second guy get into hishead that knerling with a rose - againin front of everyone - would lead to a positive outcome? Come on people, these guys never had a chance.
1 yoquis 2018-02-28
Probably those guys were bluepilled whiteknights
1 AnthroBuL 2018-02-28
Probably those guys had already been stamped as "wierd" (and with good reason) a long time ago. No one should expect a result other than rejection in the situations shown in the videos. Furthermore, those boys obviously didn't try to dress properly, had never seen a handweight/a pair of running shoes and were very awkward in their interactions.
Start over and change YOURSELF. If you don't, then you will never see results
1 yoquis 2018-02-28
At what point it stops being the awkardness, but ugliness the primary factor for rejections?
1 AnthroBuL 2018-02-28
I don't see either thing as constants. You can work with either thing to the point where neither is a hiderence on how well you do with women. Again, work on yourself.
1 yoquis 2018-02-28
C O P E
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
This but unironically.
1 uglyindianincel 2018-02-28
If they were chads, then she would say yes and everyone who tell him he is very romantic.
1 AnthroBuL 2018-02-28
Yes, evidently. I am simply pointing out that it should not be a surprise to anyone that unattractive geeks get rejected. Instead of posting pointless videos like these, this community should focus its efforts on how to approach a state in which one can both have at least some of the positive characteristics of a chad and simultaniously keep being a nice human being. And yes, that IS posdible to achieve.
1 KarlEss 2018-02-28
I'd say he has a low status in HS.
1 uglyindianincel 2018-02-28
That clearly means he is a incel.
1 KarlEss 2018-02-28
It means he belongs to an unpopular group in his hs.
1 uezo 2018-02-28
Guy that I know did a similar thing back in highschool. He got friendzoned hardcore
1 CRUZDIDNOTHINGWRONG 2018-02-28
RIP sweetpotatocel
1 wazzap_dude 2018-02-28
holy fuck hahahaha
1 Prince-Of-Dankness 2018-02-28
He is our new patron
1 Nadare3 2018-02-28
Somehow the 2 guys who got rejected over text didn't actually save their crush as their name, but as Crush.
It's not faked, guys.
1 dholeman 2018-02-28
Agree that it’s faked but to be fair you can rename your Snapchat contacts so others can’t see their names
1 Salvador66 2018-02-28
IT is probably downvoting this post to oblivion. "RREEEEEEEEE!!!!" - IT user
1 not_good_looking 2018-02-28
hits too close to their own experience, brings back bad memories for them
1 brazilianincel 2018-02-28
IT IS OVER
1 pangeacel 2018-02-28
This has happened to me so many times in my life that I'm fully desensitized to things like this.
1 KillTheJudges 2018-02-28
then keep doing it till some girls says yes
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
Keep pressing the palm of your hand to the burning stove.
1 KillTheJudges 2018-02-28
i never said i was desensitized to heat
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
Some people never get desensitized to rejections.
1 MisterRatburn 2018-02-28
That I don't doubt.
But it may be that some people are incapable of facing rejection, rather than destined to face only rejection should they keep trying.
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
You're splitting hairs. After a string of failures it's hard to not be fretful of trying again, that is, facing potential rejection.
1 MisterRatburn 2018-02-28
Oh I don't disagree. In the face of adversity it's very natural for many people to give up.
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
Then what's with the smugness?
1 MisterRatburn 2018-02-28
Quitters never win and winners never quit.
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
Non-response detected.
1 MisterRatburn 2018-02-28
I'm sorry I didn't reply to that loaded question as if I was talking to a five year old child. My smugness, as you perceive it, comes from a philosophy that winners never quit and quitters never win. I'm simply refusing to talk like a quitter.
Everything has to be spelled out for you guys.
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
And now you're being coy.
Fair enough.
1 MisterRatburn 2018-02-28
Yes, my last post was oozing with false modesty designed to be alluring.
Now I'm smug and coy!
1 pangeacel 2018-02-28
I'm 40 years old, do you think I haven't taken this advice to heart? You're way above your paycheck here.
1 KillTheJudges 2018-02-28
whens the last time you asked a girl out?
1 MisterRatburn 2018-02-28
"24 years ago but the 12 girls I asked crushed my spirit."
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
Wow, tremendous lack of empathy.
1 MisterRatburn 2018-02-28
It'd more a lack of expectations
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
I hope that at least you're successful to compensate for that lack of empathy.
1 MisterRatburn 2018-02-28
I'm not very successful at all actually.
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
Well, then you're fucking awful as a human being.
1 MisterRatburn 2018-02-28
Well that's not very nice.
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
No, it's not.
1 BF8211 2018-02-28
Contrary to what a lot of people on Reddit say, getting a girlfriend isn’t supposed to be a numbers game. It isn’t for any normal person.
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-02-28
Getting women is a numbers game for "normal people"(above average guys) otherwise it's there is either no chance(incel teir), or hardly having to do anything(women and chads).
1 AnthroBuL 2018-02-28
Look inward. How can you change yourself for the better?
1 bopoll 2018-02-28
Other people are the problem not him
1 Stagetail 2018-02-28
lmfao
1 zielony4 2018-02-28
Holy crap. I'm never asking women out ever again.
1 MirorBCipher 2018-02-28
You probably weren’t going to to begin with. Let’s not lie to ourselves here.
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
You're a cunt.
1 MirorBCipher 2018-02-28
Nah, I got my shit together. I used to be like you all but I decided to actually work on myself.
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
Ah right, which means you probably didn't have any problems to begin with.
1 MirorBCipher 2018-02-28
Nah, I was diagnosed with depression at about 12 due to issues with my family. I just decided to try and put my life back together and lo and behold I did.
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
Good for you. Not everyone is like you.
1 bopoll 2018-02-28
I can tell you're depressed because you're insulting people online
1 zielony4 2018-02-28
I already asked some out, but only to prove that all women are scum.
1 neomancr 2018-02-28
Who the hell actually says "will you be my girlfriend?" that's ridiculous.
1 LdarBoyos 2018-02-28
You should go get diagnosed. I'm not even joking. You do have something wrong with you.
1 neomancr 2018-02-28
Oh yea? Why?
1 Yazki 2018-02-28
Do you actually do anything with your time besides writing pointless essay replies on Reddit?
1 neomancr 2018-02-28
Yea, why? Even my longer replies don't take longer than like 30 seconds
1 Shazig 2018-02-28
Why should women be allowed to be psychopaths?
1 neomancr 2018-02-28
How are they allowed to?
1 Shazig 2018-02-28
Do you think women have a moral obligation to help incels?
1 neomancr 2018-02-28
Everyone has the obligation to help themselves and those they care about.
Your female friends do, but none other.
1 Shazig 2018-02-28
I'm glad we can both agree that incels have no moral obligation whatsoever to help a woman being raped.
1 neomancr 2018-02-28
I never said that. What're you taking about?
1 Shazig 2018-02-28
You said no one except your friends have an obligation to help you you.
So a random incel walking down the street who happens to catch sight of a rape happening has no moral obligation to help that woman?
1 neomancr 2018-02-28
I thought you meant help incels get laid. I didn't think you meant hell incels out of imminent danger.
He is. That's why society would call him out for not acting
1 Shazig 2018-02-28
So why is it that incels have a moral obligation to help a woman that is suffering but women don't have a moral obligation to help incels who are suffering?
1 neomancr 2018-02-28
Because it's not an imminent preventable threat.
No one really considered not getting laid the same thing as being raped. I'm pretty sure you are even trolling
1 Shazig 2018-02-28
Incels are preventable too, if women were to threat people fairly instead of judging them over something they can't control.
Being rejected your entire live over something you can't control is suffering.
1 neomancr 2018-02-28
It's not an imminent preventable threat.
And keep pretending like you can't control it. The vast majority of you can, and at this point judging by the black pill ideology I find it hard to believe that you're all that hard to look at.
Again, it's not an immense threat.
It's expected for you to tell man that a train is coming, but it's not expected for you to follow a man to make sure he doesn't get hit by a train later.
If you saw someone about to drink cyanide, you should stop him, but if he is about to do a slow poison that takes years to kill him you don't have to act.
That's why the standard is how imminent the threat is.
1 Shazig 2018-02-28
Why are you putting so much weight on it being an "imminent preventable threat"?
Incels can be prevented too, and being alone your entire life is a threat to your mental health too.
And how exactly is this analogous to incelism?
And we do expect society to pull together and create a court system and punish the rapist for his crimes and extensively help the victim. Why doesn't western society pull together to punish women for being psychopaths who ignore the suffering of ugly men?
In fact, ugly men are looked down upon and ridiculed by society. It is all too common to see ugly men called creeps for no reason at all. This is an oppressive and exploitative society.
1 neomancr 2018-02-28
Because that's the standard. You were asking the moral question of "when is one morally obligated to assist another?"
Incelism isn't an imminent threat so no one is obligated to act.
I don't know if that's true. It's a stereotype. Sometimes people live down to their stereotypes. There was a video earlier where a bunch of guys tried all these convoluted public displays of affection toward women they clearly didn't even know and were rejected and a bunch of incels thought that was because they were ugly too.
Nope. Incel is a self ascribed label. A person is only an incel when he calls himself an incel so it's voluntary.
1 Shazig 2018-02-28
"My arbitrary moral system says this is the standard. Checkmate incels"
Can you define imminent?
Is being rejected by a woman imminent?
Why do you put so much arbitrary value on imminent? You're telling me you don't care about the long-term?
Do you only replace a part in your car when it's literally about to break? Do you only go to the doctor when you're literally about to die?
Do you think incels are rejected because of their looks?
Ok, that doesn't change the fact that we are discriminated against over something we can't control.
1 neomancr 2018-02-28
That's not arbitrary at all. find an exception.
No of you wanted to be melodramatic about it, first of all everyone gets rejected, secondly it's more comparable to the slow poison than cyanide.
Being rejected by a woman doesn't cause any imminent threat to your safety.
That is where a person's expected responsibility ends. You asked what the standard was that determines if a person is responsive over another person and the standard is only if there is an imminent threat. Otherwise it wouldn't be practical. People can't devote their lives to helping everyone.
Yea but others are responsible. Only the owner is. Or maybe his extended network.
It's a case by case thing. Plenty of people who are more conventionally attractive than I am are here and on other lookist / incels complaining.
Yes you can, just stop calling identifying yourself as an incel. Then no one who talks trans about incels will be talking about you
1 Shazig 2018-02-28
The welfare state?
You're saying we shouldn't help poor people as a society since most poor people aren't starving or have acute medical issues.
Why are more emotional, long-term afflictions not important in your moral system, especially when they can lead to very imminent threats to their life such as suicide?
What is more dangerous in your eyes, a threat to someones freedom or a lack of sex?
Let's say there is a kidnapping occurring. The kidnappers are not going to harm the victim, they're just going to hold him hostage(i.e restrict his freedom). Does anyone have a moral obligation to intervene?
No one said they have to devote their lifes. They just have to be fair.
So taxation is immoral?
That's great to hear.
I self-identified as incel after I was being rejected over something I can't control.
1 bopoll 2018-02-28
Keep fighting brother
1 neomancr 2018-02-28
Well, yea. The welfare state is very controversial. I don't agree with it.
It's not my moral system. It's the standard. People are not expected to act unless there is an imminent threat.
Lack of sex isn't dangerous at all.
If he's already been kidnapped then it's no longer an imminent threat since the kidnapping had already occurred. At the point where he was being dragged off, if people saw it happen in public that would be an imminent threat. Afterward random people are no longer obligated to act. So it's his friends and family that are obligated to help him.
This is basic pragmatism. I'm not constantly out looking for missing people. No one expects that of me.
Youve yet to device a system that would be fair and wouldn't take away freedom of choice.
And you're acting like all women are shallow floozies because of all the BP propaganda. There will and always has been a certain subset of incels. And they're always rallied against the people. Why do you think Islamo terrorists are promised 72 virgins?
Its a necessary evil and most taxes aren't fair at all. Regressive taxes aren't fair.
Legal frameworks exist because the people chose to have a common lowest baseline standard.
The vast majority of legal systems aren't moral at all.
We're all basically taught and expect politics is immoral which is part of the actual problem.
Well people hate self ascribed incels because it's a hate group.
1 Shazig 2018-02-28
So you don't think we should help poor people and minorities as a society?
Yes it is your moral system, and no our society acts all the time at "slow-working poisons".
Maslows hierarchy of needs puts sex before freedom. A life of loneliness absolutely is dangerous to any individuals mental health.
Seriously. Debate me on this. What makes you think being alone your entire life is good for you?
So if a man was being held hostage in your neighbours house, you have no obligation to do anything?
Let me ask you a question. How is being raped an imminent threat to your safety? Rapes only harm people if they fight back.
And while we're at it, what do you think of the police? Should they be allowed to arrest people and restrict on their freedoms? Are police an imminent threat?
If your answer is no, why are you fine with the police hurting people for public gain? If yes, are you an anarchist?
There is nothing unpragmatic about a woman being fair to an incel. Nobody is saying she has to hunt down incels and fuck them. All she has to do is be fair. There is nothing incompatible about a woman being with an incel instead of a goodlooking man.
My moral system is based on reciprocation. For example; I wouldn't want to be killed, so I don't kill other people.
If I was suffering because of sexual loneliness, I would want to be helped by a woman. And in return if a woman was suffering I would help her, be it to call the police if I see her getting raped.
I don't care why ISIS members want to blow themselves up. We're talking about incels right now.
Just answer my questions. Is taxation immoral? Is hurting people for the common good immoral?
Nope.
1 neomancr 2018-02-28
The welfare is about poor people and people with disabilities. It doesn't have anything to do with minorities. And no I don't think the state should interfere with that. Its rife with corruption and is designed to keep the system stratified. It doesn't really help the poor. It helps the middle class. The bureaucracy filters out the poor E g. You can't gain access to community health care unless you make enough money to prove that you have steady income, it steals money and claims to store it in your SS account then you're denied help for at least 2 months. Those who really need it can't wait 2 months so the only ones who can afford to claim it are the middle class again etc. And the money just gets stolen then they get the media to fool people into forgetting where the money comes from and we now have people convinced that old people are trying to get "free money" when it's their own money that was stolen from them under false pretenses from every paycheck they every received.
At this point SS is pretty well known as a deliberate shit show.
Maslow a hierarchy of needs isn't "true" it's just a guideline that was agreed upon by psychologists who are still figuring it out. But everything above safety is up to the individual to secure. The state can't give you friends either.
Some people handle it fine actually, but regardless as adults we are all responsible for ourselves and are only expected to help each other either when there is an imminent threat, or through taxation in order to maintain the agreed upon framework.
Yes because then it goes back to imminent threat again. If someone is being held hostage his safety is in question.
Nope. The rape is obviously harm in itself. Rape is a physical act.
No. And yes. The police are an imminent threat. They are the product of prohibition which was also terrible. The police didn't become a thing until the early 1900s. Cities started hiring their own thugs just like corporations hired Pinkertons.
A lot of people forget that the vast majority of american history we didn't even have police. We had elected sheriff's and their deputies.
What? The police aren't the law. What are you saying? The police are just the private security for the mayor of each city.
There are plenty of men who aren't good looking who have wives. The lms thing is a cope. Again, you're pretending like all women are shallow gold digger floozies from the 50s.
Okay. Then why are you trying to claim that women need to fuck incels? There are plenty of gay men who would likely wanna do stuff to you.
Okay. But to be frank you're admitting that you aren't a genuinely good person. If everyone only wanted to help others because they themselves expected something in return no one would help any one. It's be a zero sum game.
We're talking a subset of men who have always existed and have always been used to promote evil. You have to really question the propaganda you are buying into and what agenda it really serves.
I did answer. Taxation is amoral. It's a thing. Only intention is moral or immoral. Things are not inherently moral or immoral.
Hurting people for the common good is immoral because it's an act with an intention. If it isn't intended to hurt people then it is no longer immoral, just bad.
Go look up the word incel on YouTube or Google and see what people think. It do want just mean a man who is struggling.
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
He has insomnia, explains the degradation off his writing.
1 Tychillyst 2018-02-28
They don’t like to do it the normal way. They like to be as creepy as possible by asking them out in front of the entire class without even knowing them that well. I don’t know what else you’d expect by taking an approach like that.
1 neomancr 2018-02-28
I forgot where I read or maybe saw it but it seems like too many guys among millenials see themselves as the protagonist of a movie with a romance angle lazily written in.
What do they expect to happen? No way in hell would they say yes when propositioned like that, this isn't a marriage proposal. Jesus christ.
The fact that these guys here see it as normal is enlightening.
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
Your response, unfortunately, hasn't surprised me one bit. "Hurr durr millennials."
1 neomancr 2018-02-28
I'm a millennial.
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
And? We have youth here who were born later than I and already lament the current mores of society.
1 neomancr 2018-02-28
Every society has the few who struggle. They're being manipulated to scapegoat something that isn't even responsible.
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
"the few"?
Depends on your definition of struggle then.
1 neomancr 2018-02-28
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/08/05/science/millennials-sex.html?referer=https://www.bing.com/search?q=millenials+having.sex.&PC=SMSM&FORM=MBDPSB
http://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/2017/09/06/men-more-likely-to-marry-up-as-women-become-more-highly-educated.html
Not too shabby.
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
You're evolving but your arguments are still all over the place.
1 neomancr 2018-02-28
No they're not. You just like to pretend.
Again here's the same point I made earlier: the vast majority of people are not incel
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
Wasn't saying that.
1 neomancr 2018-02-28
We were talking about incels n
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
I was challenging your bit about "a few". If you would've said that "a few relative to general population", then I wouldn't have a problem with what you've said.
1 neomancr 2018-02-28
What else would few mean if we were talking about a subset of the population though?
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
I try to never assume what people may mean.
1 neomancr 2018-02-28
Why not? Communication is based on heuristics. Otherwise it would be extremely inefficient
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
Heuristics means prediction. Communication isn't heuristics, we created languages first, then came the society as we know it.
1 neomancr 2018-02-28
Yea I know it means prediction which means having a rough guess as to what the other person is saying I. E. Reading between the lines
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
Reading between the lines makes communication less efficient, not more.
1 neomancr 2018-02-28
Are you kidding me? Are you trolling right now?
1 neomancr 2018-02-28
Here's Dr kings famous speech according to your expectations:
"I think.... people of different races... should see each other as equals."
The end
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
You're reducing my point to absurdity. Nothing is absolute black and white and this is no exception.
Public speeches meant to inspire and energize might not and usually aren't direct. But they are not compressed either. Cool to see your inability to argue as always though.
1 neomancr 2018-02-28
They are very compressed are you serious? Kings I have a dream speech says waaaaaaay more than the literal words.
And again all speech works the same way. Ideally we'd all hypnotize eachother with words and commune minds.
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
Hmmm, just like you tried to armchair diagnose with autism - have you ever been diagnosed with dyslexia?
1 neomancr 2018-02-28
Nope. Despite all these accusations you still haven't actually pointed anything out.
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
I did but just like you're telling me that "I'm playing dumb" you're actually doing it.
No, I haven't been diagnosed with autism.
1 neomancr 2018-02-28
"you actually dumb!" sick burn Bro.
Cmon quit wasting your time.
If you are not really autistic then I know youre just being a smart ass.
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
Very well. Call it what you like. I'm dumb enough to always engage you, so I guess that's warranted.
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
Reading between the lines makes communication less efficient, not more.
1 Incel9876 2018-02-28
Sure they would, if they're attracted to them. You're showing your age, old man.
Wall Street Journal: Prom Proposals Go to Extremes (2014):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHvq0QllhzU
1 neomancr 2018-02-28
I didn't watch the video but if someone ever does some thing like that the couple already has a history like the other guy said. You don't just spring out of the blue. And old man? How old do you think I am?
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
And here come more generalisations. Splendid.
1 Tychillyst 2018-02-28
How was I making generalizations?
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
"They don't like to do it the normal way".
Who are they and what's the "normal way"?
1 Tychillyst 2018-02-28
I was referring to the kids in the video. And by “the normal way” I meant getting to know the girl before asking her out in front of the entire class. They’re just setting themselves up for failure.
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
Surely you meant "getting friendzoned" before asking her out, right?
1 Tychillyst 2018-02-28
Two of the girls in the video said they were already taken. That shows that the guys didn’t even know the girls enough to know that they were taken. How is it friendzoning if the girls were off limits in the first place?
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
"Get to know someone" usually means make friends and that is a surefire way to get friendzoned.
1 Tychillyst 2018-02-28
They would have a lot better of a chance with these girls if they would have gotten to know them first. Instead of pressuring them in front of the class. Nobody starts out as “boyfriend and girlfriend”. They get to know each other first, and then turn that into a relationship.
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
Well that's a boldfaced lie if I ever read one.
1 Tychillyst 2018-02-28
So you’re saying most relationships start with asking a girl out, even without knowing them? Usually there is chemistry involved. People start with going on dates usually, and then progress that into a relationship. I don’t understand why you think that’s wrong lol
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
Ahahahahahahahahahahahaha
1 Tychillyst 2018-02-28
I suppose that’s why you’re an incel
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
You're not original.
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
Tsssssk, if only they wouldn't need their fucking ego boost.
1 Tychillyst 2018-02-28
Meanwhile, all you incels circlejerk together to find a similar sense of belonging. Ironic, isn’t it?
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
Humiliation != circlejerking
Fuck you.
1 Tychillyst 2018-02-28
Circlejerking over self pity and women degradation. Incels, unite!
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
You say circlejerking, I say commiseration. Sorry that my life experience offends you, I guess.
1 Tychillyst 2018-02-28
Pretty sure 2 of the girls in the video just said that they were taken and that was it. How much more polite would you like it to get? It’s only humiliation because they chose to do it in front of the class.
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
"Their fault, pbawk!"
Not surprised. I agree but it's always your fault but never someone else's, right?
1 Tychillyst 2018-02-28
I’m not blaming anyone? I’m just saying he was only humiliated because he chose to do that in front of the class. If he would have spoken to her on a more private level, then it wouldn’t have been near as humiliating.
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-02-28
Just because you are friends with someone doesn't mean you'd know if they're dating...
1 Tychillyst 2018-02-28
If you were friends with someone, and looking for a relationship with them, wouldn’t you try to at least know their relationship status before asking them out in front of the entire class?
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-02-28
I mean unless you are going to stalk them finding out if they are single is basically asking them out.
1 Tychillyst 2018-02-28
Or if you got to know them, then you’d probably find out that way. Doesn’t take a whole lot of research to know if someone is taken or not.
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-02-28
Out of all my friends(admittedly not too many) I only know the relationship status of one and that is because 1) I partly caused it and 2) she is overreacting about being single but now she slowed down on that so I'm not even sure if she's single anymore.
1 KuroRX 2018-02-28
"just be direct bro"
1 neomancr 2018-02-28
That's the opposite of direct. That's a weird convoluted routine
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
That's literally roundabout. You're not asking directly, this is a literal ice breaker. Oh my god.
1 neomancr 2018-02-28
So you guys take direct as being literally autistic?
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
Some of us guys like directness, yeah. There's too much bullshit in the world already, why make more?
1 neomancr 2018-02-28
Because being ham fisted and lacking social graces is what contributes so much of that noise.
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
True, majority of the population isn't autistic but why should one adhere to totally arbitrary social graces when they could be forgoed with no harm with regards to mutual understanding?
1 neomancr 2018-02-28
Because speech is about compression. What's said isn't just the literal words but the subtext and context.
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
Compression is necessary but not always. Besides, being direct doesn't mean being verbose.
Engineering languages can be poetry, it all depends on your perception of art and beauty.
1 neomancr 2018-02-28
Compression is always preferred. In mass com the amount of compression is what is called eloquence. And compression doesn't always even mean using fewer words, not necessarily. Timing also plays a role.
Ideally we'd all speak like poets but instead we just do our best by mostly borrowing from the ports who invented our language.
Not really. Not unless it is used as poetry more like a gimmick
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
I'm not entirely sure what is your point.
1 neomancr 2018-02-28
I'm jot trying to be offensive here, but do you really have a tough time with subtly?
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
Subtlety? Sometimes, especially when I consider roundabotness as not necessary.
1 neomancr 2018-02-28
Have you ever been diagnosed with any form of autism?
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
You're went straight for it, how predictable. You do realize that what I said can be understood indirectly as well, right?
1 neomancr 2018-02-28
Of course you're catching on. My original statement was leading.
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
Indirectness implies even a greater insult, because you mean it but still retain your façade of socially acceptable behavior.
1 neomancr 2018-02-28
No, that's just because you're bad with subtext... I genuinely am wondering if you are autistic. But you're always semi trolling anyway so I never really know if you're serious.
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
Well...
Ever heard an expression "veiled insult"? It's an insult that is harmless on the surface but has a different intended meaning, which an addressee is supposed to recognize.
1 neomancr 2018-02-28
Naw it wasn't. I'm not gonna make fun of someone for being autistic.
1 not_good_looking 2018-02-28
Lol you IT guys can’t even be consistent can you? Technically, if you want to get consent from women, you have to ask them right?. No wonder all the metoo victims were all normies, you guys thought you could “fly under the radar” into a woman’s pants. LOL
1 neomancr 2018-02-28
Are you confusing rape with asking someone out?
All the metoo victims... What?
1 neomancr 2018-02-28
Lol you IT guys can’t even be consistent can you? Technically, if you want to get consent from women, you have to ask them right?.
Are you confusing rape with asking someone out?
Being direct doesn't mean being autistic. It means understanding that presentation matters. The way you talk to someone is all about presentation subtext context and timing.
Presentation sets the context, and the words along with the presentation and context creates subtext. Timing is choosing is choosing when and where.
No wonder all the metoo victims were all normies, you guys thought you could “fly under the radar” into a woman’s pants. LOL
All the metoo victims... What?
1 Crackcel 2018-02-28
I just kicked a hole in my wall.
1 KuroRX 2018-02-28
george w bush right on her pussy
1 PM_ME_UR_FIRST_NUDE 2018-02-28
Who saves their crush in their phone as "crush," aside from no one?
1 BF8211 2018-02-28
Probably just changed it for the recording
1 yoquis 2018-02-28
Who asks their crush would you be my gf? I did, once when i was 12 but its cringy
1 MisterRatburn 2018-02-28
No one
1 shadowcat211 2018-02-28
Poor guys.
1 InterruptingCow__Moo 2018-02-28
Try asking out girls that don't already have a BF?
1 Salvador66 2018-02-28
XD They all have BF. Anyways, at least that is what they tell you if you are decent-looking. If one is ugly, he gets told to "get lost, creep".
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-02-28
Well shit I guess that means I'm decent looking...
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
That's not a compliment either. They want you to compete for them
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-02-28
I never said it was a complimentm just a sign that I'm not horrible looking.
1 Ilovefem 2018-02-28
I felt this on a physiological level
1 Yourenotspecialxxx 2018-02-28
I mean you cant really blame the ones with boyfriends. The only mean one was the burnt sweet potato one tbh.
1 not_good_looking 2018-02-28
triggers inceltears bad memories but they refuse to believe they have no chance with women and are incels in denial so they are downvoting this post out of rage
1 womenshouldnotvote 2018-02-28
fucking BRUTAL
1 MisterRatburn 2018-02-28
Oh no!
Every day normal rejection!
The humanity!
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
Yeah, with a side order of humiliation. Everyday humiliation alright.
1 MisterRatburn 2018-02-28
Aside from the potato face text, these were pretty damned tame.
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
Are you a sadist, a masochist or both?
1 MisterRatburn 2018-02-28
Are you joking?
'Sorry I have a boyfriend' 'Sorry I already have a valentine' 'No'
How are these not normal every day rejection? What, then, is your idea of such a thing?
I think maybe rejection itself is humiliating to you.
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
How comically you're missing the point. Okay.
1 MisterRatburn 2018-02-28
I was the one trying to make a point, you're the one trying to refute it.
Do you actually not find the first 3 clips quite tame? Aside from the potato one, it's about as good as rejection can go. Especially public rejection.
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-02-28
The first three were probably lies anyway which makes it sound like they were just saying it because they're afraid to say the truth and losing an orbiter.
1 MisterRatburn 2018-02-28
That could be true, though the third one was just a simple 'no'.
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-02-28
Only if the one they orbit is the type to let them know that...
1 MisterRatburn 2018-02-28
You'd have to be a pretty unobservant orbiter not to figure that shit out.
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-02-28
If she mutes her phone around orbiters and doesn't use it and instead tries to just make everything as quick of a transaction as possible the orbiters won't know. Like what would the signs be?
1 MisterRatburn 2018-02-28
I mean, if she's super devoted to hiding it from every orbiter, maybe yeah she could pull it off.
But it's just not normally the case. It can be hard to hide a relationship, but you're right, not impossible.
If you're a friend zoned orbiter, the typical sign that she's in a relationship is when she complains to you for 3 hours about her boyfriend.
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-02-28
I've never had a girl complain to me about her boyfriend, it's like women don't even trust me to talk about the simplest things once they get to know me.
1 MisterRatburn 2018-02-28
Never? That's been friend zone 101 for me.
Swallowing sadness as a girl complains about how poorly another guy is treating her knowing full well she's going to keep pursuing him.
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-02-28
For me it just feels like they don't even want to use me as a shoulder to cry on, they hardly even talk about their life so we run out of things to say really quickly which is why it feels like they are only financially using me. I feel like at least being emotionally used would be a step up.
1 Agrees_withyou 2018-02-28
Hey, you're right!
1 MisterRatburn 2018-02-28
If you're not even being used as a shoulder, but you're paying for things, you are being used financially.
Your wallet is for you. Don't let random bitches have your money.
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-02-28
I just think of it as paying for a service, I never pay for things that don't directlly result in me spending time with her and her having something keeping her with me for the time being instead of flaking out after I pay to see how much more she could get away with, driving them somewhere while you are already with them with my own fuel is a perfectly safe option because you are guaranteed to have them with you for at least half the time you spend driving, going out to eat is also decent option because if they they ditch you halfway through you still get extra food instead of their time.
I know when I'm being used financially, what confuses me is when the same ones who use me financially offer to just to talk or something when it's clear they aren't attracted to me and aren't even willing to open up enough to use me emotionally as anything other than validation.
1 Shazig 2018-02-28
Yeah, let's discard the evidence we don't like and paint the argument in a way that helps our narrative.
1 MisterRatburn 2018-02-28
I'm not denying cruel responses exist.
1 Shazig 2018-02-28
That's great, when will we hold women responsible?
1 MisterRatburn 2018-02-28
You guys hold women responsible every day.
1 Shazig 2018-02-28
But society doesn't.
1 VonMagnar 2018-02-28
So normal rejections involve humiliation now?
1 MisterRatburn 2018-02-28
If you get humiliated easily, yeah.
1 VonMagnar 2018-02-28
Since when, might I ask, is stuff like the one girl in the video humiliating the kid “normal every day rejection“.
1 MisterRatburn 2018-02-28
Which one? The burnt sweet potato one? That one is the only bad one. And it happened in a text.
Everything else was only a regular rejection. Do you seriously find the first two clips as humiliation?
1 VonMagnar 2018-02-28
No, the burnt sweet potato. Still not “ normal everyday rejection“.
1 MisterRatburn 2018-02-28
An occasional cruel word is part of normal every day rejection. Most people don't do that, but it will happen.
But if being insulted over text in a private conversation is too humiliating for you, then I don't know what to tell ya.
1 VonMagnar 2018-02-28
You don't see the issue I take with what you said, do you.
1 MisterRatburn 2018-02-28
Being yelled at is a normal every day part of working in retail. Most customers don't do that, but it will happen.
I said normal every day. Not super perfect every single time.
1 VonMagnar 2018-02-28
Getting cruel shit flung at you because the girl needs an ego boost is not “normal“.
1 MisterRatburn 2018-02-28
It's not normal to experience occasional cruelty from people?
So, it's actually abnormal and in real life nobody is cruel and there is nothing to fear?
1 VonMagnar 2018-02-28
Stop being a coy cunt.
Like kettenrad said, you're missing the point.
1 MisterRatburn 2018-02-28
I can't really be missing the point when I'm the one making the argument that this is normal every day rejection.
And having most of your rejections being polite refusals with the occasional cruel rejection is pretty normal.
1 VonMagnar 2018-02-28
Case in point, still just shooting past the point I'm making.
Done.
1 MisterRatburn 2018-02-28
Classic internet argument strategy #43.
Insist your opponent is missing your point (even if you're attacking their point and not even making one yourself). Then, instead of making any attempt whatsoever to clarify said point, complain and then stomp out of the room.
1 VonMagnar 2018-02-28
I already made my point twice, not going to repeat myself.
1 MisterRatburn 2018-02-28
Classic internet argument strategy
44
If ever asked to clarify or repeat something, pretend you're too good to spend your time doing it even if you've just complained about being misunderstood. Bonus points if you keep replying without clarifying multiple times. Especially after declaring yourself finished with a conversation.
1 VonMagnar 2018-02-28
Why should I repeat myself for you, exactly? I made my point, you ignored it and acted like coy cunt about it, the convo was already dead then and there.
1 MisterRatburn 2018-02-28
Bonus points activated! Multiplier x2!
-repeated insistence of a nonexistent point -repeated refusal to clarify -implying too good to waste the effort but apparently not too good to keep replying just to whine -I'm Done. Just kidding I'm back. x2
He's going for the high score folks!
1 VonMagnar 2018-02-28
Boooring.
1 MisterRatburn 2018-02-28
Yet he keeps coming back. Inspiring!
1 VonMagnar 2018-02-28
Because you keep popping up in my notifications, work is boring and seeing you act like a dickweed is a bit less boring.
1 MisterRatburn 2018-02-28
But you just called the conversation with me boring. Such inconsistencies!
1 VonMagnar 2018-02-28
Both are boring, one is less.
1 MisterRatburn 2018-02-28
Why not just start a different internet argument? You're not giving this one any effort.
1 VonMagnar 2018-02-28
I will. You still keep pooping up, so I keep checking in though.
1 MisterRatburn 2018-02-28
Heh, pooping.
But while I've got you here why not just clarify whatever point I apparently missed. You don't seem to have anything better to do.
I'm not saying we'll end up agreeing, but we'd be able to figure out where and why we disagree. I personally don't believe you actually have point you think I missed, so try me.
1 VonMagnar 2018-02-28
The point I'm making is that, a girl cruely rejecting a guy for the sake of an ego boost is not something that falls under the moniker of “normal“. You then applied that onto life in general and acted like a cunt about it.
1 MisterRatburn 2018-02-28
I think you're confusing normality with morality.
I think it's fair to apply that onto life in general because encountering morally bankrupt people is part of life in general.
In the phrase 'normal every day', the word 'normal' doesn't describe morality. It means closer to typical.
1 VonMagnar 2018-02-28
You said it's normal and something to be expected.
Eh. I'd beg to differ in some sense because we're talking specifically about rejection and people being cunts about it.
Girls cruelly rejecting guys for the sake of an ego boost is actually typical in my experience, no argument from me there. Never heard that phrase before, then again im not english.
What you're doing is acting cordial to you? Jesus.
1 MisterRatburn 2018-02-28
Well, that explains why you called me a coy cunt for extrapolating on your suggestion that such behavior was 'abnormal'.
We might be reaching the end of our discussion. I don't disagree the fourth clip is one where someone was being a cunt. Without a doubt.
But 3 polite rejections and 1 cruel one, I would say that is definitely within a typical ratio. I imagine it's a worse ratio for uglier men. Especially creepy ugly.
And I have totally been cordial. Aside from a little cheekiness, I've been a goddamned gentlemen.
1 VonMagnar 2018-02-28
“A little cheekiness“
Uh huh.
No, you're a coy cunt because you acted like a coy cunt.
And I know what the ratio for ugly men is like.
1 MisterRatburn 2018-02-28
But you called me a coy cunt because you were using normality in a different way then I was. You meant morality when I meant typicality. I think it was a genuine misunderstanding. One I thought got cleared up rather well.
You keep trying to be mean, but I'm just having a discussion.
I don't know the ratio for an incel, but I would imagine the topic video is a poor representation of the rejection incels receive and is rather an example of normal every day rejection.
1 VonMagnar 2018-02-28
And, because you were acting like a coy cunt.
Tough tits, tiffany :)
Not an incel, just ugly.
1 MisterRatburn 2018-02-28
I've been nice though. Fine, whatever.
Read the video title. It's normal every day rejection. It's a poor example of why incels should fear asking girls out.
1 VonMagnar 2018-02-28
Yeah right. Suuure.
In my experience, the cunty rejection is a great example of what they can expect though (if they truly are as ugly as they profess to be).
1 MisterRatburn 2018-02-28
Oh I totally have been.
Potato face might be a good example, but it's one out of four in the video. And even then it's just a mean text in a private conversation.
Doesn't quite capture the real humiliation of rejection, imho. Better examples exist, and this video just makes incels look like cowards.
1 VonMagnar 2018-02-28
Totally (ignoring the part where you acted like a massive cock for the sake of being cheeky).
And what if that text was then made public (as they usually are)? Pretty good example in that case imo.
1 MisterRatburn 2018-02-28
I don't know about usually, but yes. I've been there and it's the worst.
1 MisterRatburn 2018-02-28
Nice ninja. Oh i see the previous comments. You attached my point in a few ways and I gave them responses.
For at least one of your counter arguments, you found my response insufficient. Do I know which? No.
Do you actually even know? I doubt it. Usually when people claim the other person has missed something but give no effort to actually clarify it, they're just trying to exit the discussion 'gracefully'.
1 randomaabetaplayer 2018-02-28
It's okay when women do it!
1 MisterRatburn 2018-02-28
Reject people?
I'll admit rejecting women cruelly is almost never accepted, whereas rejecting men in the same way is normalized.
But this video started with 3 very polite rejections. Two of them public. Not so bad.
1 Tychillyst 2018-02-28
I’m referring to the kids in the video, and by “the normal way”, I meant by getting to know the girl first, instead of asking them out in front of everyone in the class. That is just setting yourself up for failure.
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
B-but "be confident!"
1 MyPusyTasteLikePepsi 2018-02-28
Were those chat threads between middle school kids? No one texts like that unless your like 10
1 MisterRatburn 2018-02-28
Will u b my gf plz?
1 iQ9k 2018-02-28
Bersonality
1 Tychillyst 2018-02-28
Some of the girls said they had boyfriend’s in the video, so it should have been pretty obvious that they were off limits. Instead, they asked the girls out without even really knowing them that well.
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
Maybe but a polite no would've sufficed. Not "sweet potato" or others forms of fucking ego boosting.
Besides, attractive people get flirtatious responses from girls even if they are taken. Not all of course but many, sadly.
1 pinkgoldrose 2018-02-28
Meanwhile... a bunch of non-Stacies never get asked out.
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
Fuck off bub
1 BF8211 2018-02-28
If you come to South Korea I’ll ask you out.
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
Watch it, you don't want to get a dependapotamus, do you?
1 BF8211 2018-02-28
I’m so lonely I’ve actually been considering it
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
Ah, fair enough. I'm that much embittered that I'll probably wing it alone for the rest of my life if nothing changes.
1 wazzap_dude 2018-02-28
no response hahahaha
typical!
1 BF8211 2018-02-28
Unfortunately that’s how it usually ends, over internet or IRL.
1 wazzap_dude 2018-02-28
I feel it u_u
1 justforlulzandkeks 2018-02-28
t. extremely bitter Becky who couldn't get Chad
1 bopoll 2018-02-28
Are you a woman? I'll be with you, I don't even like you and don't know what you look like, and I'll be with you
See how easy this is
1 BF8211 2018-02-28
Btw, this was made by yours truly in about 15 minutes using Sony Vegas and a rejection compilation on YouTube. How did I do?
The song is Take a Step Back by Ski Mask the Slump God, but the entire part in the clip is sang by XXXTentacion if anyone is wondering.
1 sharkb8master 2018-02-28
Make more, man.
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
Can I have an "exclusive contract" for you to supply material for my new sub? I'd really appreciate it, you always deliver quality content.
1 BF8211 2018-02-28
What would I need to make?
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
Well, don't approach as an actual contract obviously but if you post content like that - post on my sub as well. Anything you like.
1 CMXV 2018-02-28
I'm glad one of my incel brothers fucks with new age soundcloud rap. I'm liking this sub more and more everyday.
Especially with the return of OGcels like /u/rippedrichandincel
1 RippedRichAndIncel 2018-02-28
The sub has certainly changed in the last few months, and for he better. It’s feels a bit more like home
1 CMXV 2018-02-28
Definitely man. I just fear that the more it turns back into home, the increasing danger of a ban returns. But, I'm gonna enjoy it while it lasts. I didn't really care for the .me site. But If this sub continues to gain steam I'll be glad.
1 FilmingAction 2018-02-28
The last one was really cringy
1 BF8211 2018-02-28
In the full version of the first one, he sings a song to her first lmao
1 incels_kek 2018-02-28
Bluepilled cucks bending the knee to a femoid LOL. Chads don't ask, he commands them while they're gagging on his cock.
1 Rafique020902 2018-02-28
savage music
1 awe300 2018-02-28
You know what you do when you get rejected? Dust yourself off, move on, and don't give a fuck.
You don't dwell on it like a petulant child that didn't get what it wanted
1 pavloxx 2018-02-28
It's almost as if people don't have feelings or emotions. Oh right they all need to "man up", forgot about that one
1 awe300 2018-02-28
That's fucking bullshit. Of course everyone has emotions. That's the whole point! If you didn't, you wouldn't need to get over them.
Do you think you're somehow unique in having feelings and feeling bad when rejected?
No, you're not. There's two ways to deal with rejection: never try again and live your life in your small shell, never flourishing, or accepting it and moving on.
Guess which works better?
1 pavloxx 2018-02-28
I was talking about that. You are going to give a fuck about it for a while, most people will and it will hurt more if you keep getting rejected (assuming one is not trying to date people out of their league).
When did I ever imply that?
Yes but don't act like it's not gonna hurt someone's self esteem for a while.
1 awe300 2018-02-28
It's gonna hurt bad. My first rejection was awful. The 20th was okay.
My first breakup was worse. The fourth was much better.
Not because either felt better, but because I knew, from experience, that the bad feeling goes away, it usually does. All it needs is time
1 pavloxx 2018-02-28
Exactly.
It will and I believe especially more for introverts, people that have been bullied or had lonely teenage years experiences.
My first rejection was awful as well, the last one? Hurt but didn't give a fuck and decided to give up.
I thought my first break up was bad, the last one was 10x worse and made lose trust in people.
1 behindcloseddoors1 2018-02-28
Rejection is only bearable because of occasional success. If you never succeed, rejection is just unecessary pain.
1 xtsv 2018-02-28
I've been through worse tbf.
1 hexterr 2018-02-28
Story ??
1 xtsv 2018-02-28
Don't want to stretch it out so here it goes: I go to Chad friends house for a "party", I tell my crush I like her and that we should hang out sometime, 10 Minutes later she is making out with Chad friend.
She was a legit chubby 4/10 and I only liked her because I thought she had a nice personality. I literally fell for the personality meme.
1 Gemmi_bear 2018-02-28
Been there too, guy was a 2/10 though. Seemed nice, so I said I liked him when I was still in hs and asked if he liked me and he said I was ew :') RIP not only guys go through this shit, it sucks though
1 wazzap_dude 2018-02-28
1 Gemmi_bear 2018-02-28
No, fight me m8
1 wazzap_dude 2018-02-28
ok, gimme your location right fuckin now
1 Gemmi_bear 2018-02-28
Nz 😂
1 wazzap_dude 2018-02-28
I hate you so much
1 Gemmi_bear 2018-02-28
That's okay :)
1 wazzap_dude 2018-02-28
grRrrr >:/
1 Gemmi_bear 2018-02-28
Why are you mad? :(
1 wazzap_dude 2018-02-28
cause youre a female and this subs not for you
1 Gemmi_bear 2018-02-28
It doesn't say no females allowed though? Plus I'm a virgin too
1 wazzap_dude 2018-02-28
well theyre not, and youre a virgin cuz you really want to be
1 Gemmi_bear 2018-02-28
I guess, sex seems scary, I wouldn't know what to do lmao
1 roundpounder 2018-02-28
Lol, same. Chad-ish lab partner decides to troll me. Tells an extremely hot girl he knows (don't know how he knows her) that I wanted to date her (I didn't. Never talked to her, interacted, even looked at, etc.). She loudly screams "ew" and quickly walks away. Honestly, I thought her reaction was funny and didn't mind it. I was pissed at the guy though for trying to humiliate me in public.
1 Braingasms 2018-02-28
Looks to me like people asking someone out/to be a valentine without any context to know if there was interest from the girl being asked.
Simple fact of the matter is, some people get more rejection than others and there are a lot of factors. One is how many times you try, and two is with whom you’re trying. More and more factors from there.
Feel free to keep pretending all you’re ever told is shower and improve personality.
1 AutomaticAdvantage 2018-02-28
Don't even talk to women, it's pointless. Even if they approach you about helping them with something, just ignore them. There has never been a class of people in history more cruel and oppressive than females.
1 DarthCorleone 2018-02-28
Here's what you guys have a hard time understanding. Us "normies" get rejected all the time too, and it's just as embarrassing. Personally, I've felt completely humiliated by several women in my life. It hurts a lot, but you brush yourself off and move on. No need to let it ruin your life, especially if it happened in high school. I assure you, no matter how much embarrassing shit you did, no matter how much of a bad reputation you got for being a weirdo, creep, or loser.... none of it matters after you graduate.
1 Powasam5000 2018-02-28
Overblown. You add the music and its devastating. The secret is to not look like such a tool when they say no. Just be cool about it and move the fuck on. Who cares if they are laughing? Take that No like a man. That one dude couldnt even look at her after . That is cringey as fuck! You are putting the cart before the horse here. I bet none of these girls had any idea who these guys were before they got approached. Your game is weak! DO THE PREGAME WORK SUCKA
1 69SRDP69 2018-02-28
Oh No! Rejection?!?!? 😢
1 VoidInvincible 2018-02-28
Damn. I'm not even incel and this makes me fucking sad.
1 hindustan_zindabad_ 2018-02-28
looooOOooOOL op this honestly is the funniest shit god speed
1 BF8211 2018-02-28
Welcome back
1 RyanSniffels 2018-02-28
Thanks now i am Filled with rage again
1 RyanSniffels 2018-02-28
From Everything i have learned they are probably gonna be more interested in you if you just treat them like shit, call them cum Buckets and walk Off. I feel like they loose interest as soon as they know they can get you
0 rifain 2018-02-28
This guy is a hero, he's better than you will ever be. He tried his luck and he has probably a girlfriend now. This is what you losers don't understand, rejection is normal, even for good looking guys.
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
Keyword: probably. We can guess the same as you, putain.
1 Stagetail 2018-02-28
LOSER woop woop
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
Well that's a boldfaced lie if I ever read one.
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-02-28
If she mutes her phone around orbiters and doesn't use it and instead tries to just make everything as quick of a transaction as possible the orbiters won't know. Like what would the signs be?
1 MisterRatburn 2018-02-28
I've been nice though. Fine, whatever.
Read the video title. It's normal every day rejection. It's a poor example of why incels should fear asking girls out.
1 neomancr 2018-02-28
Why not? Communication is based on heuristics. Otherwise it would be extremely inefficient
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
Reading between the lines makes communication less efficient, not more.
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
Reading between the lines makes communication less efficient, not more.
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
I'm not entirely sure what is your point.
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-28
You're reducing my point to absurdity. Nothing is absolute black and white and this is no exception.
Public speeches meant to inspire and energize might not and usually aren't direct. But they are not compressed either. Cool to see your inability to argue as always though.
1 wazzap_dude 2018-02-28
ok, gimme your location right fuckin now
1 RippedRichAndIncel 2018-02-28
The sub has certainly changed in the last few months, and for he better. It’s feels a bit more like home
1 Shazig 2018-02-28
But society doesn't.
1 BF8211 2018-02-28
Welcome back