Scenario B is super autistic cope. Talk to women you pathetic little shits. “If I wasn’t such a subhuman waste she’d talk to me herself so why bother” is the most retarded fucking copout. You’ll never be the kind of person who gets regularly approached by women - you’ve made your peace with that, that’s why you’re here. But not many people are. Don’t be a complete faggot like ER and wander around town and campus all day like some kind of freak and flip out when no one randomly approaches the weird sitting/endlessly walking manlet. Fuck you.

You said it yourself. But the "cope" aspect is hard. Approaching women when you've never had a chance to really interact is a difficult thing to do. Can't be a creep but can't be the awkward person you are. Shit is hard.

I'm 58 years old, and by now I've probably talked to hundreds of women in my life - to no avail.

Getting yourself into circulation won't help an incel if women in general just aren't attracted to you in your given state.

Can't really talk to women when they explicitly ignore you.

Fuck you, wandering and sitting around is about the only way to try to find women.

Fuck you, wandering and sitting around is about the only way to try to find women.

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Wow! Is this what you really believe?

How else would we actually find a woman?

How else would we actually find a woman?

How about learning to understand verbal and non-verbal cues? How about learning to carry on a conversation without mumbling, stumbling, and tripping over your words? How about actually having something interesting to talk about other than the usual mundane incel hobbies and habits? How about actually joining the river of social activity that flows by you, but you're too afraid to jump in?

I have no problem meeting and talking to women. Because I took the time to learn how. And I didn't get my social values from porn and video games.

How about learning to understand verbal and non-verbal cues? How about learning to carry on a conversation without mumbling, stumbling, and tripping over your words? How about actually having something interesting to talk about other than the usual mundane incel hobbies and habits? How about actually joining the river of social activity that flows by you, but you're too afraid to jump in?

You don't understand what I mean. I'm talking about finding in the sense of just locating them, I feel like everywhere I go I hardly see any.

That said even the few I do find I had nothing to say to them if they didn't reject me right off the bat, but that's a separate problem that I'd rather wait until I'm able to consistently find young women to attempting to learn how to interact with them.

I don't try to talk like I'm some cutesy anime girl, I talk very directly and fluidly, only bad part about the way I talk is when initiating a conversation I sound like I'm basically just going through the motions and my opening line is just basically me directly telling them I think they look attractive(even if I don't) without specifying why it doesn't get more generic than that. And what exactly is something interesting to talk about for example? I don't know what river of social activity you're talking about, I see is a tried up riverbed of social activity where even if I were to dump a bucket of social activity into it would just absorb into the soil instantly.

I have no problem meeting and talking to women. Because I took the time to learn how. And I didn't get my social values from porn and video games.

But you you won't take the time to explain how. Not quite sure what you mean by social values but I'm pretty sure I didn't get mine from porn and video games either.

To quote Iceberg Slim, "The game is to be sold, not told." That means, either you go out on your own and learn it like I did, or you pay someone to teach you and risk winding up in PUA land like some idiot loser.

But you you won't take the time to explain how.

It's not my job to explain life to you. It's your job to make the effort to learn. No, I will not hand you anything, including information, without effort on your part. Part of the learning process is the effort it takes to learn.

I see young women around me all the time. But then, I'm in a major metropolitan area (San Francisco, CA). If you can't get laid here, yeah, you probably should LDAR.

I don't know what river of social activity you're talking about

If there's none, create one. Barring that, move to where there is social activity. I did. And before you mention a goddamn thing about privilege, read my previous post. Privilege has NOTHING to do with the moves I've been able to make. Effort is what it took, not privilege.

when initiating a conversation I sound like I'm basically just going through the motions

If you lack sincerity, that's a problem.

my opening line is just basically me directly telling them I think they look attractive(even if I don't)

This is very off-putting to most women that the average person would meet in day-to-day comings and goings. That you don't know this is very telling. That you would continue to do this after it hasn't worked multiple times is the very definition of insanity.

As long as you're not dead you have a change to learn. Make the fucking effort. If you don't, it is indeed entirely YOUR FAULT!

To quote Iceberg Slim, "The game is to be sold, not told." That means, either you go out on your own and learn it like I did, or you pay someone to teach you and risk winding up in PUA land like some idiot loser

I have gone out on my own and learned nothing, hardly even saw younger women. I did have someone teach me a bit but it mostly amounted to "walk more confidently and have a cute dog" or at least that's all I remember.

I see young women around me all the time. But then, I'm in a major metropolitan area (San Francisco, CA). If you can't get laid here, yeah, you probably should LDAR.

I'm not in a small town or anything, there is even a collage reasonably close, but I still see almost no younger women when I go out even on weekends. Besides that from my experience it's seemed a lot easier to meet people in smaller towns because there is just lot less places to go.

If there's none, create one. Barring that, move to where there is social activity. I did. And before you mention a goddamn thing about privilege, read my previous post. Privilege has NOTHING to do with the moves I've been able to make. Effort is what it took, not privilege.

Moving just for the sake of socializing is a horrible idea, I'm much better off living with my parents, I wouldn't want to throw away the few connections I do have, and I couldn't afford to move out. I put in effort but it doesn't matter.

If you lack sincerity, that's a problem.

I'm not some kind of trained actor, I can't properly fake sincerity on command, if I'm going to say something I don't mean or am just expecting an instant rejection anyway I'm not going to sound like I have have the sincerity.

This is very off-putting to most women that the average person would meet in day-to-day comings and goings. That you don't know this is very telling. That you would continue to do this after it hasn't worked multiple times is the very definition of insanity.

I know it's off putting but I don't know what else to do... I don't even do it to girls I meet in day to day comings and goings, i do it to girls when I am actively looking for them and I approach them when they are doing something completely unrelated to me. The last three women to reject me were shopping for clothes for themselves when I found them but I at least had my sister and a friend girls with me to make it seem less creepy(although they stayed behind when I approached to mock me...).

I don't know how I need to change though.

Yeah, you're unhinged. Get help.

Females only talk to Chad because that is all they actually like

Exactly. Social anxiety is nothing more than a byproduct of growing up ugly.

100%

• Incel trying to explain every single of his flaws by his looks to shift blame away from himself, early 2018.

So being rejected and bullied your entire childhood because of your looks doesn't do anything to your confidence or social skills?

Literally EVERYTHING is your own fault, there are literally ZERO outside factors that could have any influence on you, if you claim otherwise you are a pathetic, whiny manbaby who needs to grow up

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Don't forget the hypocritical feminist talking points too.

Almost fell for this sarcasm

Idiot

You, as an incel, would usually try to spark a conversation by maying saying one or two sentences to the femoid as she browses her phone, in which she occasionally says "yup" "mhm" "I guess.." Eventually you pick up that femoids aren't happy talking with you, so you talk with other incels, the deformed white guys, the indian pajeet guys, the asian guys.

FUCK. You're hitting way too fucking close to home.

As an Asian guy, can confirm this is true.

Ricecels are true friends tbh.

Lmao wtf. Man you scaring me. Im nonincel asian and im worried that my brother is going down the incel path.

I'm an Indian in America and one of my best friends is Asian, if you really care about your brother make sure he has a healthy social life that includes women. It doesn't guarantee he will not be incel but it's the best chance you can give him.

He 19 and just entered college. He has friends and i dont get any autistic or inceldom vibes from him. The issue is he still hasnt gotten a girlfriend or gotten laid or not that ive known of. The issue is he hangs out with non party people in college its kinda lame. I tried to get him to join my fraternity and he didnt get in.

Outside looks can be very deceptive, I've tricked my family into thinking I do really well with women, none of them know how incel I really am. Even if he can't join your frat take him to the University gym and lift with him, and take him to a few parties and try and get him laid ASAP. Those two should give him enough validation to start going after women by himself.

He's 7 years under. I graduated already. I can't help him anymore than giving advice tbh. Idk man he doesn't talk to me about girls or anything.

Ah I thought you were at the same university as him. Even if he doesn't talk to you about girls try and guide him as hard as you can to get into the gym. My biggest regret about freshman year is not going to the gym (I started going sophomore year). Most freshman guys don't know the game yet, they are chubby and awkward and think college is a fuck-fest of slutty girls begging to get into their pants. The reality is girls want attractive men, those nerds from high school aren't going to suddenly start slaying because they are now in college. You need to tell your brother to try as hard as he can to become high value, and if he does it in freshman year where the majority of men are still figuring it out then he will be in a great spot.

Sorry if I'm rambling, I just don't want to see other men make the same mistakes I did.

i went to that same university and graduated now im somewhere else. I tell him to gym but i think he's lazy. I just don't think he can have incel mentality. We're same height and he's better looking if not equal to me. He grew up seeing me with different girl.

Don't assume everything is fine, like I said my family thinks I do well with women but it's all faked. Even if he thinks he looks good it's still possible he struggles with women, I think I'm extremely attractive but that didn't stop me from becoming incel. Just be someone he can talk to about his problems with women, it's okay if he has enough self-confidence without the gym, just remember if he ever has self-esteem issues really try and get him into the gym. Most men severely underrate how good it makes you feel and how much confidence it gives you.

Well i just spoke with him and he just seems busy with computer science. He said he will gym once he has time. Ehhh worrying trend

I'm inclined to say the time thing is an excuse as I am a STEM major and know it's possible to balance everything with proper time management, but I don't know your brothers personal situation.

He might not be asexual, he might just be afraid to show his sexuality. In high school I was a very big nerd, thought I was very unattractive, and I thought my sexuality was so unwanted I never expressed it to anyone, much less girls. If he's a confident dude he might be asexual but if he's pretty shy it he might just be afraid of showing his sexuality because he never got positive attention from women.

these guys are cool though, way cooler than most women

Eh, they are 100% better friends, but they aren't going to fulfill me romantically

it is true, I do try delude myself sometimes, this is so fucking BRUTAL (u_u)7

Nah. You can be good-looking and socially buggered. All it takes is the right amount of mental shititude and/or an ugly-duckling phase, and you can end up in the doldrums. Don't underestimate the mental aspect.

an ugly-duckling phase

so still looks then.

I said "or", and I didn't say if the "ugliness" was self-perceived or actual.

It all connects together, that's why looks dictate your life.

This is the core cope. People who submit to circumstances are demonstrating the very trait that makes a person undesirable.

You're measured by how indomitable your spirit is and if you begin to convince yourself that you should be dominated then you're just choosing to be that way.

life is a poker game. It's about hie you play your hand not the hand you're dealt

Who's this "they"? I know it's tempting to imagine that all things are decided by the world around you and you are a passenger with a drunk driver at the wheel. If it was true that things are as bleak as you guys make it seem, it would actually be that bleak and there's be no need for all the rationalizations

If the guy is sub 8 he must be rich, this at a time when that matters less than ever, if the dude is ethnic he must be a Tyrone or Chadpreet, this at a time when ethnic men are no longer segregated, and as if the average white guy is a Chad.

Women don't hate me, they act as if I don't exist. Whatever I say doesn't register to them, even if it's purely school related.

There is no "strategy to talking" when they don't even listen. I might as well talk to a wall.

What have you tried to make yourself more competitive?

What the fuck does segregation or racial laws have to do with attraction, which is biological? Are you telling me laws and biology are the same thing?

Crazy retard.

I was talking about the routine copes you propagate whenever you see someone you think should be incel who isn't.

LOL

And yet somehow the people who supposedly don't submit to circumstances never face the relevant circumstances for any significant period of time. It's easy to have an indomitable spirit when all you need to succeed is a couple honest attempts.

you can override that and keep them guessing

Only if you have a certain privilege which unattractive men specifically aren't afforded. You take that privilege for granted and I bet you aren't even capable of identifying it. And you would break down sooner and harder than any incel if you were to lose it - normies always do.

No matter what your circumstances, even if everyone is against you you have to always stand up and be your own advocate.

There is never any reason to cave.

Giving up hope won't make you any happier. I think everyone knows that deep down inside.

Being able to be your advocate is also predicated on said privilege, of which you are still unaware even though you possess it.

Giving up hope won't make you any happier.

Actually, for an incel. it will, in more ways than one. For someone who has it as easy as you or any other normal person - sure, there's no reason to give up. But not all of us are so lucky.

From what I've seen incels tend to over shoot

But you haven't seen anything. You're just making empty assumptions because they feel good to you. Your ignorance of your own privilege necessarily means that you are also ignorant of others' lack of it.

Did you just say, "it's about how you play your hand not the hand you're dealt"? Have you ever played poker before? The hand your dealt is at least 80% of the game

Naw if it was you wouldn't see the same guys winning poker tournaments all the time.

Well assuming you know what you're doing a good hand will beat a bad hand a majority of the time, this is common sense. Same thing in dating, sure every now and then some ugly dude can luck out but a majority of the time the good hand bests the bad hand

You're presuming to know what a good hand is is the thing. The black pill is based on the LMS red pill ideology

They rationalize their struggles by claiming that all men who are successful with romance must just have higher lms.

Realistically I don't see what is false about that. Status is a biggie, incels are the bottom of social hierarchy which hurts mentalcels a lot it pretty much fuels their inceldom. LMS is everything, even according to your fellow normies looks opens the door personality keeps us or some shit

Do you believe that sub 8 is a thing?

No of course sub 8 is cope or a meme, doesn't mean guys who aren't incels have lower LMS than incels. Wouldn't make any sense if that were the case

The hard part here is that there are people who do over shoot and convince people who are otherwise fine that they are hopeless.

No normie has ever said that looks don't matter at all, the consensus is that you're all about average, and among the few of you who are actually uncomfortable to look at, it'll be harder for sure.

But the idea of overriding hope but going everyone that they can only ever be in an exploitive relationship is really toxic.

If a woman was to fall for him with 100 percent pure intentions, that mindset would sabotage them both, and the girl would be penalized for NOT living down to your worst expectations.

That's no way to be.

neomancr

dude wtf

What?

you're insane! o_o

Cmon man, I know first hand how much of life is a series of self fulfilling prophecies.

I know that if you are the stereotype of the incel you are then going to think that's just what you are, but it works the same for all stereotypes. If you submit to it you do end up fulfilling it.

There are people who outright admit to being average here, but they are still sub 8 and think it's over unless they beta bux. That's insanity.

maybe . . . maybe you're right, sometimes I want to believe what you say

You have nothing to lose. All the fear mongering only applies to you if you're a rich white guy.

Are you rich? Why would you be afraid of being a beta bux or being divorce raped?

you KNOW Im not . . . -_- but true

Yea dude, just try something that isn't what all the pua type stuff suggests, but this will take nore willingness from you to fail and keep trying because we all do. But at least you'll understand the process.

From now on for all girls that you feel comfortable with e.g. girls you don't necessarily want to date try casually befriending them while playfully flirting I'm a way where you both know you're just being charming and so it's safe and no one's feelings can get hurt.

Just try that for a while. Treat it as a social experiment.

idk man :/

Hey, want a true red pill? You're being oppressed by everyone around you, but only in the same way that you are willing to accept it.

I know it's really hard to act differently because you're afraid that others will think it's weird and make you feel weird.

There's something called the Rosenthal effect otherwise called the expectancy effect which is where people will be influenced by the expectations of others and internalize it.

It's why so many urban youth become thugs. It's what I keep talking about when I talk about the stereotype game because a lot of people forget that being an unattractive guy is a stereotype just like being an attractive guy is.

People expect attractive guys to be charming while they expect unattractive guys to be mouth breathing weirdos.

Think of how Disney represents all their characters. That's a standard trope that's called ugly is evil good is attractive.

People accuse me of being a conspiracy theorist for pointing this stuff out but you can clearly see it.

So while it's true that people who are attractive will tend to be more confident and charming, just like a black kid will tend to identify with urban thug culture, there is wiggle room there for those who are willing to swallow the true red pill and say fuck it. I don't care what people who are oppressing me will think, they can't control how I behave.

If everyone stopped acting like their stereotype and kept deliberately jamming the signals things would change for the better.

I'm sure there are people around you who would be willing to accept it. Say something like "I've become a zen Buddhist"

Then any change that happens will seem fine because you're just practicing zen and it's opening you up more.

You're crazy. But some of the things you say do make sense.

Anytime man, I hope you at least entertain the idea since there's really no reason not to except being afraid of change.

Someday you'll be fearless. Start small.

There are people who outright admit to being average here, but they are still sub 8 and think it's over unless they beta bux. That's insanity.

yeah, it IS insanity when you're having to deal with what we deal with, even IF we betabux it's still over.

Have you really never seen someone you'd consider your looks match with a woman?

Not him but I'm thinking about it now for the first time. 3 cokeheads with gfs, so they're really just after the coke. 2 people with my looks that have gfs, I know there's more, but they all have other qualities that make them better ($$$$$). Bunch of people uglier, but their gfs are either whales, spergs or both. They are generally MORE miserable and worse off because of these women on a consistent basis but get enough sex to make it worth the BS. Not really what I'm aiming for.

It's pretty much Russian roulette with women. The 1/6 chance she just ruins your life and is a complete psycho. 5/6 the experience kind of just scares the fuck out of you and sucks overall. And the much smaller chance that you're the guy right after the one who gets his brains blown out, who gets to sigh that giant breath of relief that you didn't even have to do anything.

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Can't deny this

while you're desperately looking up on topics about her interests so you can initiate a conversation, chad can just simply smile and have her talking to him

I'm so thankful for pajeet and ricecels, those guys were always willing to talk to me. Almost all my long-standing friends are pajeet or ricecel, they are the only ones that would actually initiate conversation, they would wish me happy birthday and give me gifts, we would buy eachother lunch and study together even if we weren't in the same degree program. They were also very interesting people, like most people are when you actually talk to them. But of course incels like me are the only people that would talk to them.

I'm sure everyone here is familiar with what it's like to try talking to a woman, though. They literally don't let you talk to them. I would regularly try to make smalltalk like if I was waiting in line for coffee, or while in class waiting for the teacher to get there, or if someone was sitting near me in the dining hall and it's exactly like you say; single syllable responses, no return questions, they don't even look at you. No rational non-autist would ignore this, it says 'stop talking to me'. The only women I have had a sustained conversation with are the girlfriends of guys I would group up with or the guys I played sports with, and wouldn't you know it they always ask 'how are you still single?' gee I wonder why..

If they honestly did ask how you still single then there is hope

Ugly pajeets would join the normies against me in my childhood.

pajeet

please don't be disrespectful

Pajeet isn't racist

FUCKING Got em.

Inceltears no where to be found

It's so annoying to hear people who have had normal childhoods say that it's easy to be social.

If you have been bullied your entire childhood anywhere near the severity I have been, you would never have developed these social skills. Kids brains are way more malleable than adults, any attempt I make as an adult makes me come over as a robot.

How about femoids initiating conversation at a workplace unrelated to work? The problem is most of the times I dont even know what to say and just stare into the distance or reply with mostly one or two words max.

I dont know any normal or gl person who is socially underdeveloped

Finally I've found a place where the ultimate truth is written in huge blood letters.

I was sick of the fucking redpill bullshit although they got a lot of things right.

And of course it is not what you say is the non chad face/mandibule that you are using to say it.

Extra blackpill: If you have to approach a femoid to start a conversation be it in a coffee shop or in school, she already finds you unattractive. If you were attractive, they'd open up a scenario for you to have a conversation.

Or she could be otherwise occupied, or taken, or having a really fucked up day and not want to pay attention to anyone.

Because, yeah, everyone is always looking for the next ugly guy to fuck with.

You are NOT that special.

starts in elementary school, not middle or high school

I’ve seen a number of average or above average looking guys who are poor at socialising, some of the best presenters I see are all incel tier looks-wise.

Just go to twitch.tv and see what a life of playing video games does for your social skills as an average or above average dude, freakazoid for example is a Chad but is almost voluntarily autist the way he communicates.

Fact: that's not true

deny the truth some more

I'm not

Women don't hate me, they act as if I don't exist. Whatever I say doesn't register to them, even if it's purely school related.

There is no "strategy to talking" when they don't even listen. I might as well talk to a wall.

What have you tried to make yourself more competitive?

What the fuck does segregation or racial laws have to do with attraction, which is biological? Are you telling me laws and biology are the same thing?

Crazy retard.

I was talking about the routine copes you propagate whenever you see someone you think should be incel who isn't.

As an Asian guy, can confirm this is true.

maybe . . . maybe you're right, sometimes I want to believe what you say

There are people who outright admit to being average here, but they are still sub 8 and think it's over unless they beta bux. That's insanity.

yeah, it IS insanity when you're having to deal with what we deal with, even IF we betabux it's still over.

Have you really never seen someone you'd consider your looks match with a woman?

these guys are cool though, way cooler than most women

He 19 and just entered college. He has friends and i dont get any autistic or inceldom vibes from him. The issue is he still hasnt gotten a girlfriend or gotten laid or not that ive known of. The issue is he hangs out with non party people in college its kinda lame. I tried to get him to join my fraternity and he didnt get in.