The only reason to vote left as an incel is if you are a NEET and intend to stay that way. If you work you should vote for whatever party promises the smallest government or the least taxes. Just imo.
Relying on government handouts is always a bad idea. I can spend/Invest/save the money the state is stealing from me much more wisely than the state ever could.
? You cannot create resources out of thin air, you always have to steal them from somebody. The state is doing this by printing money and by taxing innocent laborers.
With regards to the OP topic, all the federal government would do is purchase labor with money it prints out of thin air, like it pays for everything else, with minimal to no inflation. It's not something for nothing. It's purchasing labor with USD, which are just fancy tax credits.
Printing money is stealing from anyone that is stupid enough to hold large amounts of the currency. This are usually small savers, anyone big is clever enough to invest into real-estate/stocks/bonds/etc.
Your econ 102 sounds like socialist voodoo economics to me. You cannot print money without devaluing the money supply -- but if you have anything to read up on/educate myself on what you are saying I'd be happy to read it.
you'd like this, I know tons of libertarians or conservatives who liked this debate, it's basically an hour long debate on what we are talking about but really to-the-point and you can't find anything like it anywhere else
Wrong, the reason why incels exist is because the (welfare) state has taken over the role of provider and protector. Without the welfare state sub-8 males would be much more valuable to women. The welfare state has made life for women so easy -- without any consequences whatsoever -- that the only thing they are going for now is looks.
I don't think you even know what welfare state is. Most women are not on welfare. They have rich daddies and privately funded colleges to fuck around in.
Free-market capitalism creates modern civilization, which allows this degeneracy to begin with. You won't see women acting as whores if we still lived in the 18th century, without fossil fuels and mass urbanization.
I don't think you even know what welfare state is. Most women are not on welfare.
I live in a country with one of the best social nets in the world, trust me I know what the welfare state is. There simply is zero fear in women that anything bad will ever happen to them -- in the absolute worst case the state is there to provide them, and their chad offspring, with a basic life.
Is the welfare state a symptom of the problem or the problem itself?
I believe that as long as people are spoiled by free-market capitalism and modern civilization, the welfare state is an inevitability. Democracy will give in to the majority, always. It's simply in the womans best interests to be a whore, atleast in this environment.
Removing the welfare state will only create a bunch of really pissed whores who will use the democratic system to get what they want, and free-market capitalism allows it to happen.
On a similar note, why do immigrants come to the west? They don't come here for the good weather. They're here for our riches. It's all the fault of capitalism, the welfare state is just an extension of that- more people in the workplace, more profits. If women are at home raising children they're not working.
Yeah socialism is soo bad. Take a look at America and then at countries like the Netherlands, Finland etc. (Countries with the highest living standard) they have a mix with socialism/capitalism.
If you think european socialist societies are better off you are mistaken. Low IQ people breed like rats while hard working men (and women) are having fewer and fewer children. Those states will fail spectacularly in the coming decades. I believe that the US, if a strong anti socialist / conservative course is kept, will fare way better.
I live in one of those countries and it's miles better than your shithole. Your homicide rates in inner cities look more like civil war-zones than cities. You go bankrupt if a family member gets cancer just so you can line the pockets of Chad shareholders LOL. Fucking turbo cucks.
I live in an european socialist welfare state too.
I so enjoy having to pay for healthcare -- yet still being forced to pay for private healthcare because the public system is swamped by immigrants and is absolute dogshit in general.
I enjoy having to pay a HUGE upkeep for a pension system that I personally will never see any benefit from. I also enjoy being forced to save and invest a huge portion of my income to keep up a good lifestyle in older age.
I enjoy having to pay extreme taxes so that millions of immigrants and low quality people can come to my country and breed on my dime and enjoy a basic lifestyle without working.
Have you ever been to any US city? I have -- didn't look like a warzone to me.
They now try to deny they ever proposed this. Buuut they did. Before /r/incels came about and turned SJWs against us. It's cited in more reputable places.
It's literally facts. Women fuck bad boy Chads then the government swoops in and gives the woman to raise the child from taxes payed for by betas. I don't want my money going to raising someone elses kid
Just lol @ kraut incels who think this is gonna benefit them. They are gonna get leap frogged by the new tan Germans who suffer from sexual "emergencies".
With regards to the OP topic, all the federal government would do is purchase labor with money it prints out of thin air, like it pays for everything else, with minimal to no inflation. It's not something for nothing. It's purchasing labor with USD, which are just fancy tax credits.
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1 WhiteBlackPurple 2018-02-27
Green Party = womens Party (feminism to the max)
Why do women always want more and more socialism to fix societies problems? Socialism never fixes anything, just makes things worse for everyone.
1 fatchancebud 2018-02-27
Green Party = environmentalist new age social decmocratic types (Except online, the online variants of the green party are cretins)
1 WhiteBlackPurple 2018-02-27
No, that's what they pretend to be. Green Party = mainly feminists
1 fatchancebud 2018-02-27
sure they are mainly feminists in the US, but it's not really anything anyone in the party on the ground talks about
it's a shit party, but ILL TAKE WHAT I CAN GET
1 WhiteBlackPurple 2018-02-27
The only reason to vote left as an incel is if you are a NEET and intend to stay that way. If you work you should vote for whatever party promises the smallest government or the least taxes. Just imo.
1 fatchancebud 2018-02-27
or if you think you are ever going to lose your job ever
1 WhiteBlackPurple 2018-02-27
Relying on government handouts is always a bad idea. I can spend/Invest/save the money the state is stealing from me much more wisely than the state ever could.
1 fatchancebud 2018-02-27
if it's the federal government paying, they don't have to steal any money until full employment. Only thing they are doing is purchasing labor.
1 WhiteBlackPurple 2018-02-27
? You cannot create resources out of thin air, you always have to steal them from somebody. The state is doing this by printing money and by taxing innocent laborers.
1 fatchancebud 2018-02-27
With regards to the OP topic, all the federal government would do is purchase labor with money it prints out of thin air, like it pays for everything else, with minimal to no inflation. It's not something for nothing. It's purchasing labor with USD, which are just fancy tax credits.
1 WhiteBlackPurple 2018-02-27
Printing money is stealing from anyone that is stupid enough to hold large amounts of the currency. This are usually small savers, anyone big is clever enough to invest into real-estate/stocks/bonds/etc.
Printing money is not a victimless crime, sorry.
1 fatchancebud 2018-02-27
You don't get inflation from printing a currency you have a monopoly on until the amount you spend exceeds the amount of labor it can purchase
Econ 102, it's after Econ 101
1 WhiteBlackPurple 2018-02-27
Your econ 102 sounds like socialist voodoo economics to me. You cannot print money without devaluing the money supply -- but if you have anything to read up on/educate myself on what you are saying I'd be happy to read it.
1 fatchancebud 2018-02-27
you'd like this, I know tons of libertarians or conservatives who liked this debate, it's basically an hour long debate on what we are talking about but really to-the-point and you can't find anything like it anywhere else
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUTLCDBONok
1 WhiteBlackPurple 2018-02-27
Thanks, going to watch it later.
1 fatchancebud 2018-02-27
You'll be 500x more knowledgeable on both your position and mine after you do watch it. I know I was. It's all in layman's language too.
1 ultimaregem 2018-02-27
Kid not even a hooker would fuck you.
1 fatchancebud 2018-02-27
and that's where you are wrong, because they already do
1 SaltzPyre1 2018-02-27
Thats even worse.
1 Shazig 2018-02-27
Stop with this conservative libertarian bullcrap
This is the reason why incels exist, we need a socialist and tribal system in order to get laid, learn from the Jews.
Your own moral system enables womens freedom.
1 WhiteBlackPurple 2018-02-27
Wrong, the reason why incels exist is because the (welfare) state has taken over the role of provider and protector. Without the welfare state sub-8 males would be much more valuable to women. The welfare state has made life for women so easy -- without any consequences whatsoever -- that the only thing they are going for now is looks.
1 Shazig 2018-02-27
And what funds the welfare state?
Free-market capitalism. Without being spoiled by riches we would never have a welfare state.
Who has more feminists, east or west Europe?
1 WhiteBlackPurple 2018-02-27
Male enslavement, has nothing to do with free market capitalism -- just with the fact that most western men are weak cucks that don't resist feminism.
1 Shazig 2018-02-27
I don't think you even know what welfare state is. Most women are not on welfare. They have rich daddies and privately funded colleges to fuck around in.
Free-market capitalism creates modern civilization, which allows this degeneracy to begin with. You won't see women acting as whores if we still lived in the 18th century, without fossil fuels and mass urbanization.
1 WhiteBlackPurple 2018-02-27
I live in a country with one of the best social nets in the world, trust me I know what the welfare state is. There simply is zero fear in women that anything bad will ever happen to them -- in the absolute worst case the state is there to provide them, and their chad offspring, with a basic life.
1 Shazig 2018-02-27
I think this comes down to a single question:
Is the welfare state a symptom of the problem or the problem itself?
I believe that as long as people are spoiled by free-market capitalism and modern civilization, the welfare state is an inevitability. Democracy will give in to the majority, always. It's simply in the womans best interests to be a whore, atleast in this environment.
Removing the welfare state will only create a bunch of really pissed whores who will use the democratic system to get what they want, and free-market capitalism allows it to happen.
On a similar note, why do immigrants come to the west? They don't come here for the good weather. They're here for our riches. It's all the fault of capitalism, the welfare state is just an extension of that- more people in the workplace, more profits. If women are at home raising children they're not working.
1 SayNoToCapitalism 2018-02-27
Yeah socialism is soo bad. Take a look at America and then at countries like the Netherlands, Finland etc. (Countries with the highest living standard) they have a mix with socialism/capitalism.
1 balsag43 2018-02-27
Social democracy. Not a mix. Not to forget right wingers are ruining it like they always do.
1 SayNoToCapitalism 2018-02-27
Nope, I live in the Netherlands it's definitely a mix of capitalism with socialist aspects.
1 SayNoToCapitalism 2018-02-27
Right-wingers are fucking retarded. They're in a sunken place.
1 FEDORA_GOD 2018-02-27
Have you seen the state of the US? It's an absolute shithole.
1 WhiteBlackPurple 2018-02-27
If you think european socialist societies are better off you are mistaken. Low IQ people breed like rats while hard working men (and women) are having fewer and fewer children. Those states will fail spectacularly in the coming decades. I believe that the US, if a strong anti socialist / conservative course is kept, will fare way better.
1 FEDORA_GOD 2018-02-27
I live in one of those countries and it's miles better than your shithole. Your homicide rates in inner cities look more like civil war-zones than cities. You go bankrupt if a family member gets cancer just so you can line the pockets of Chad shareholders LOL. Fucking turbo cucks.
1 WhiteBlackPurple 2018-02-27
I live in an european socialist welfare state too.
I so enjoy having to pay for healthcare -- yet still being forced to pay for private healthcare because the public system is swamped by immigrants and is absolute dogshit in general.
I enjoy having to pay a HUGE upkeep for a pension system that I personally will never see any benefit from. I also enjoy being forced to save and invest a huge portion of my income to keep up a good lifestyle in older age.
I enjoy having to pay extreme taxes so that millions of immigrants and low quality people can come to my country and breed on my dime and enjoy a basic lifestyle without working.
Have you ever been to any US city? I have -- didn't look like a warzone to me.
1 timeout400 2018-02-27
based Elisabeth Scharfenberg
1 DankIncel 2018-02-27
Is she /ourgirl/?
1 CptErection23 2018-02-27
Government issued gfs soon...
1 jotaro_kuj0 2018-02-27
Yas finally.
1 timeout400 2018-02-27
Aiha Zemp of Switzerland definitely is.... ""Sexuality is a basic human need like eating and drinking and we have to fight for this right." https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/sexual-services_disabled-sex--assistants--tackle-taboo/5365194
1 sydneycel 2018-02-27
Finally involuntary celibacy is getting the recognition it deserves.
1 LdarBoyos 2018-02-27
It would appear some femoids are decent
1 Grand_boy 2018-02-27
This is going to end up like the neatherlands. If your physically disabled you qualify. So unless you plan to crush your own spine no luck.
1 fatchancebud 2018-02-27
i need confirmation that it doesn't apply to the mentally disabled, is this really true, and where is the line btw physical and mental?
1 Grand_boy 2018-02-27
I think it has to be something real serious like paralasis. They only sponsor maybe one or two dozen a year so its gotaa be hardcore.
1 CptErection23 2018-02-27
Sure it may start with serious disabilities, but like all government programs it will start including more and more disabilities. Go SJWs!
1 LeanneHaligh 2018-02-27
Source?
1 CptErection23 2018-02-27
My spine never got me laid, good riddance I say.
1 Grand_boy 2018-02-27
i can't say i approve of the idea, but i approve of the enthusiasm.
1 i_sigh_less 2018-02-27
Crush spine to get free prostitute or just pay with money... Hmmm, tough choice.
1 Cr3X1eUZ 2018-02-27
White Hands Ejaculation Assistance in Japan (documentary)
[NSFW] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HErf4OELzYk
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-02-27
Exactly, nothing returned to people who actually work for it...
1 wh0mping 2018-02-27
Wait wtf I love SJWs now
1 fatchancebud 2018-02-27
They now try to deny they ever proposed this. Buuut they did. Before /r/incels came about and turned SJWs against us. It's cited in more reputable places.
1 DankIncel 2018-02-27
wtf I want to move to Germany now
1 mentalhealthcel 2018-02-27
[life fuel]
1 SaltzPyre1 2018-02-27
Id really rather not pay for someone else's orgasm.
1 derpyderpderp42069 2018-02-27
Too bad you already do that and you pay for Chad's child after he leaves the roastie pregnant and leaves her a single mom
1 69SRDP69 2018-02-27
That's a lot of projecting
1 derpyderpderp42069 2018-02-27
It's literally facts. Women fuck bad boy Chads then the government swoops in and gives the woman to raise the child from taxes payed for by betas. I don't want my money going to raising someone elses kid
1 Short_Incel_Throw 2018-02-27
You pay for that when Chad nuts in a single mother and she has to get child support from the government.
1 apx24 2018-02-27
But if you are working, the government is taking some of your income and giving it to Stacy for her birth control.
1 SaltzPyre1 2018-02-27
Im aware. It's wrong that the government would pilfer our paychecks for this shit.
1 FireOccator 2018-02-27
That's one way to get votes.
1 Wienager69 2018-02-27
this is just a plot to get the muslims to stop raping everyone
1 derpyderpderp42069 2018-02-27
Use the archive.is links for popular news media sites you cuck. Or do you enjoy bringing free views to the very organizations that cuck you?
http://archive.is/qMsUF
1 Currycell92 2018-02-27
Just lol @ kraut incels who think this is gonna benefit them. They are gonna get leap frogged by the new tan Germans who suffer from sexual "emergencies".
1 Cr3X1eUZ 2018-02-27
White Hands Ejaculation Assistance in Japan (documentary)
[NSFW] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HErf4OELzYk
1 HitnShit 2018-02-27
But their programm is still garbage. Truste me i know them and even live in germoney
1 TopKekkington 2018-02-27
Too bad this will never happen in the US, prostitution will probably never even be legal here. It's over for UScels
1 Gravel_Roads 2018-02-27
It’s legal in Nevada
1 WhereDidSerotoninGo 2018-02-27
- I am single and unhappy, no one wants to date me.
- Okay, lady, here is your weekly Chad prescription.
1 DaddyCraw 2018-02-27
WHAT
1 iQ9k 2018-02-27
ITS HAPPENING
1 GuyFromDaStore 2018-02-27
(((Elisabeth Scharfenberg)))
1 fatchancebud 2018-02-27
With regards to the OP topic, all the federal government would do is purchase labor with money it prints out of thin air, like it pays for everything else, with minimal to no inflation. It's not something for nothing. It's purchasing labor with USD, which are just fancy tax credits.