Just be confident bro.

Confidence has to be backed by something. Otherwise you're just arrogant.

Yea by LOOKS

Nah, by anything. I look like shit but I'm smart as fuck. Works for me.

Ugly people are also stupid.

They don't have to be. Pick up a book once in a while.

never in the history of man has a truly smart person said "i'm smart as fuck"

cope

Thanks for clarifying something we knew for the longest time.

Well, stop posting that all you need is confidence and I'll stop correcting you. Simple.

You might've missed that the expressed "just be confident" is a mockery of the usual advice given to people like us. But I understand why you might've missed that.

Nah, I'm well aware. Problem is that you're massively oversimplifying complex instructions to make other people look bad, and not only is it disingenuous I personally find that to be a special kind of evil. People try to help you, and you try to make them look stupid.

Problem is that you're massively oversimplifying complex instructions to make other people look bad, and not only is it disingenuous I personally find that to be a special kind of evil. People try to help you, and you try to make them look stupid.

By providing a generalized reductionist advice and when people are mocking them for it, calling us evil virgin rapist manbabies?

You're going to get generic advice for generic cases. Whenever I try to get situation specific information, I get ghosted. So I stopped trying. I went out of my way to speak to the other normies around here, and you do the same to them.

People here seem to think they can get hyper-specific advice to their situation without actually talking about themselves. And yet you have the barefaced fucking cheek to make us out to be stupid.

Whenever I try to get situation specific information, I get ghosted.

If you think you can help me out with advice - PM me. I'm not entirely sure what you will tell me that I don't already know but I'm open to suggestions. Let see how non-specific you can be for a guy from Ukraine.

Yeah, I'm not talking to you anymore.

How predictable.

I don't engage with people who use slurs, you've already been warned once.

Whatever, act offended all you want.

You get the treatment in accordance with your behaviour here.

I'm not offended. I live in scotland, I get called a mong or a spaz several times a day because I'm the only one in my local area who functions in adulthood after riding the short bus as a kid.

I don't engage with people like you because I get bored of being reduced to a stereotype. Every conversation ends the same - I can't be right because I'm a tard. It gets old.

How ironic that you're tired of being reduced to a stereotype.

Sounds like a case of "Physician, heal thyself".

It's not like I hate you but it's hard to feel sympathy for you when were a jackass all these months here, hanging around the place you don't belong and defending "m'ladies". I mean, our convo yesterday? Really?

Difference being that I don't flap my hands. You do say misogynistic things.

Me, personally? If you say so, buddy.

I actually stim a lot.

I've seen you do it.

Good for you. I don't, it got beaten out of me along with most of my other more pronounced tells. But people like to pretend that I do whenever they want to crack a joke, easy target I suppose. Which is why I don't engage with people like you.

I've seen you do it.

Sure, I believe you, Ser Knight.

Good for you. I don't, it got beaten out of me along with most of my other more pronounced tells. But people like to pretend that I do whenever they want to crack a joke, easy target I suppose.

Cry me a river, buddy, I've had a shit creek of my own navigate. I stim at home, when nobody's watching, because I need to scratch that fucking itch.

When I complain, then I get derision. When you, fucking white knights complain, then you actually vent and get sympathy. How people like you like to say: man up, shut up and fuck off. World isn't fair and you aren't entitled to people understanding your condition.

Fuck off and go die in a fucking ditch, you absolute fucking retard.

I'm not a white knight. See other thread, I don't really hang around with women anymore in general because I cba with the indirect manner in which they address issues. Too much work to keep up with.

The most interaction I have with women these days is at the sesh. I'm just a stoner so I end up trip-sitting and nannying the people who've gone too far and can't adult anymore.

Retard with a saviour complex. How quaint. Medice cura te ipsum.

Nah, that's just what you do. Rule of sobriety: If you're the least fucked person in the gaff, you find the most fucked person in the gaff and keep an eye on them so they don't die. Because I generally just smoke I tend to be the most together person there.

If you're the least fucked person

Womanless spaz is apparently "least fucked" than most of us here, get a load of this shit.

Least fucked as in most sober.

You're pedanting in the wrong direction, buddy. Your words "least fucked" serve as a double entendre. Obviously, I understand what you meant but this works either way.

Confidence has to be backed by looks*

I see uglier people than me with girlfriends too, but it's the unique combination of mental aspects with looks that is at play. As an average looking male, no mental health issues or abnormalities are tolerated from me, so normie people who look the saem get the girls. There is zero reason for femoids to invest in someone that is just average looking and aneurotypical + mentally unhealthy+beta, all lifelong issues. Just because you see an uglier guy than you with a gf doesn't mean it's not over. It's over.

This. I’m a low-tier failed normie but my anxiety + ADHD and autism kill it for me. It’s fucking over.

No.

Biological urges my dude.

Exactly why you’ll never get a girl. You’re a failure to society

Definitely not bullying, just lol

shoot yourself with that gun of yours edgelord

Femoids femoids femoids femoids femoids femoids femoids femoids Femoids femoids femoids femoids Femoids femoids femoids femoids femoids femoids femoids femoids femoids go fuck yourself.

Hating or not hating women has no effect on you getting women. The only time I ever had a positive dating experience with a femoid is when I was already fully hating them and lying out of my teeth to her about my status/money.

Gee, can't imagine why that didn't work out.

Because all women are disgusting looks/money/status whoring snobs? I agree.

I don't hate them or call them "femoids" but whether we hate them or not has no bearing or meaning on our predicament.

I, like most incels, call women femoids exclusively on incel subs and forums. It's just the culture. Shut your trap and lurk more.

The reason most pill suicides fail is because pharmaceuticals are designed to be suicide-proof these days and no one thinks to take antiemetics along with their farewell cocktail. I don’t understand why people don’t just buy a thing of dramamine along with the Advil or whatever.

I doubt they’ll listen to you. I’m half convinced 30% of users here are trolls. I have a south Asian idiot pming me because he thinks an Indian looks more like an Isis fighter than an ethic Arab like me. The person that looks like a cow worshipping Hindu telling me that he looks more like an Arab than I do. Probably trolling

Technically he isn't wrong. In America lots of Indians and Sikhs get targeted because racists think they're Muslims. The stereotypes people have about how Middle-Easterners look are inaccurate in a lot of places.

If he told me people think he’s from the taliban, I’d be fine with it. ISIS though? No way. He just needs to shave his beard and those same ignorant people will start assuming he works in tech support or at a curry takeaway. Meanwhile, even clean shaven, people make jokes about me making bombs for a living.

Very narrow-minded point of view. There areas in the USA that are low-educated and with very little ethnic diversity, a small town in the South won't have any Indian tech support or curry takeaway.

Again, the fact that he’s telling a member of the same race as most Isis fighters that he looks more like an Isis fighter than I do is really fucking stupid. News don’t show pictures of Indians on tv when talking about Isis. They show Isis fighters, so Arabians and Levantines

You NEED to fuck off.

Once you contribute something other than generic horseshit spewed here 100 times already then i'll contribute something myself.

Thanks. Now fuck off.

Good post. I hope some people pay attention.

Shut up

If you want a self-help subreddit go to a self-help subreddit, this isn't it.

Just shower 4x a day and hold frame bro..

You sound good intentioned but there is no escaping most here have accepted it. Also just because we're rude online doesn't mean we're that way in real life. I mean come on. You think if a woman approaches us or engages us in real life we scream out "FUCK OFF FEMOID!".

I’m not saying you are rude to people/women IRL.

But, there is something to be said for immersing yourself in negativity day after day. You can’t expect, if you’re “swallowing the black pill” day in, day out, that it won’t affect your interactions with the world at large.

OP is right. I had originally hoped, when I’d heard of incels, it was a “lift a motherfucker up” club.

A lot of this community is about putting each other down, making sure everyone feels miserable and sad.

"Misery loves company."

So much this

Idk, I disagree there. It's fairly easy to compartmentalize different parts of my personality. Those closest to me haven't the slightest clue of what bothers me, or mebeing depressed, having suicidal thoughts. So if they can't tell then it's easy to hide it from strangers.

It's easy to put on a mask temporarily for a short amount of time. But doing A distracts you from doing B. If you ever become close with someone else, you'll find it hard to talk about things you're passionate about cuz you can't bring things like this up. All your conversations will feel artificial and will take even more energy than normal (assuming you're an introvert). The content you consume changes you fundamentally as a person even if you can pull off temporary masks. Being in a relationship means being open with your SO. You will be the most comfortable with a future SO if you can completely be yourself. It will be difficult to open up if all your inner thoughts are like this.

You're right, but I'll never have a SO because I'm hideous subhuman garbage. So I'll never have anyone that I can be complete be open with. Which means my life will be nothing but tiresome facade, never having anyone to be there for me. Which seems rather bleak. Which brings me to my favorite weekend activity, pricing out shotguns and a box ammo. Then finding a nice dark secluded park, parking my car there, sliding the gun into my mouth and pulling the trigger and I can save myself the hassle.

I'm emotionally open with my two friends, why are you waiting for a girlfriend? She will get scared, it's too much responsibility to be someone's only way to cope with life. Work on that first.

How's that horse treating you?

Must be some kind of American idiom I don't know about, I can't answer you because I don't understand sorry

Have you heard the phrase "on a high horse"? I think he's referencing that.

Okay, so that was definitely a random insult because I'm not condescending, just stating facts. Thanks

Funny how wife beaters negativity doesn't taint their day to day interactions, it's almost as if people perceive ugly people as having bad personality traits for no reason other than their ugliness.

This is not a support group, cuckcel.

You guys did originally advertise yoursepves as such.

Their only defense was "stop hating on us, we're just a support sub"

r/incelswithouthate, fuck off to that subreddit you

This is what we call an Uncle Tom incel. If he was a slave in slave America he would be house nigger who told on the field niggers for taking a break when they should have been picking cotton

i suck at talking, woman or man ...

Enjoy your cuckvotes

No, OP, you're actually wrong.

I've been around communities like this for over a decade now. "Let's lift each other up" doesn't work - people's situations are too different and they're too scattered all over the world. And simple words on a screen aren't going to help incels, and some incels really are simply beyond help and incel communities need to be places where such people are welcome.

And as for normies and women, there's nothing you can do really. If you push the normie trolls out, the community gets banned. If you accept and embrace them, you end up with r/foreveralone, and that's an absolutely toxic community for an unattractive man to be in.

I mean, if you have actual suggestion on how to change the rules and mod policies here, or on how users should act, by all means, tell us. But "let's be more positive" and "let's listen to normie advice" is just too wrong and too vague to be of any use.

Or r/menslib, an even more cucked version of FA.

Surprisingly he didn't respond to your post.

He wrote from hope, but lacks experience and wisdom. It's disappointing to see he didn't have much follow through on this... The original post was actually good IMO.

He wrote from not lurking hard enough.

Hey, if you realize this is not the kind of community you feel comfortable in and your response is to leave and look for a better one, you're already more sensible and well-intentioned than most people who submit posts like yours. Good luck and here's hoping things turn out well for you.

Not technically, but I'd say I have more "incel cred" than most users here because I met my first and only girlfriend when I was approaching 33.

I'm not surprised tbh.

Fair enough.

This is a place where we can actually open up as incels and not having to bullshit with an optimistic attitude or anything.

You act like you are in the worst situation in the world. You should be grateful for the fact you have access to the internet

I was giving a legitimate answer for why we use this sub, fuck off, at least in countries without internet I wouldn't be an incel because I could just rape a woman like everyone there does.

That is fucked up. It is obvious you have something wrong with you. Get some help, for your sake.

Oh I have something wrong with me? Why don't you go over to some third world nation and tell the natives there is something wrong with them? I'm just telling you the reality of things, they are starving to death but they can still waste their energy on rape.... I'm not saying it isn't fucked up, I'm just saying that's probably how it is.

I don't need help other than having a woman love me.

Anybody who would rape another person is fucked up.

If you really believe that a woman would fulfil all of your needs, I don't know what to tell you.

Agreed and I never said I would rape another person, I said if I was from somewhere where it was the social norm I would but that's because I would have had a different upbringing.

I mean the only "need" I need fulfilled would be companionship and possibly sex... so yes, I do think a woman would fulfill all that.

Get an escort for sex. Get a dog for companionship. You are making things more difficult than they need to be.

...Are you being serious? If that was good enough for most people then why would anybody bother dating?

fallacy of relative privation

Yeah, you could call it that. But does it make my point less valid?

yes

Oh my god shut up Norman there are places for that shit and this isn't it.

If you want self improvement help or community support there are already subs for that. This is not one of them.

P E R S O N A L I T Y

Lol at this sub8 bluepilled normie trying to cope. It's over, you will never be chad. The plain Jane you might land with all your efforts will cuck you the moment she comes across alpha dick willing to fuck her.

Do you think women will magically want us either way? lmao

This cunt is a fake cel.

Dude. I have seen your pics. You are no way ugly or short. Weird looking nose which isn't exactly deal breaker, if so u can save up for a minor nasal procedure. You have no business being here. Gtfo.

There is a cycle of negativity here that basically keeps us down and lonely.

You realize most of it is not serious and mostly circle jerking?

Honestly dude, they really don't realize it.

They wouldn't know if a joke hit them in the face. In fact, they'd report the joke.

They are like children

The fact they havent picked up on it is staggering yet somehow the funny bastards here are the socially inept. It makes no sense.

Yup

That's not how cults work.

I'm relatively new here

Stopped reading when I saw this

❤❤❤❤❤ You have the right idea! Power to you my dude!

Yeah, you’re barking up the wrong tree. These people want to be miserable and bitch about how it’s the entire world that’s the problem instead of actually analyzing themselves and figuring out if it could possibly be them, while simultaneously rejecting any and all advice that might be given to them. Throw in a very unhealthy and irrational hatred of women and people with normal sex lives, and you have these unkind folks. I would say find a different subreddit.

No, we know exactly what's wrong with us: We're ugly. We're blaming others for lying about the fact that it's all about looks. Who else's fault would that be? It's our fault you idiots insist on telling the most ridiculous lies?

No one wants to be miserable you fucking stupid cunt.

Oh, well pardon me for thinking so. What with the disregarding any and all attempts to actually help, it’s hard to tell.

haha what a cringy fucking retard

Thank you!

Sad if genuine.

Amen brother.

Lol i am hideous. Even my mother says it. I will never find anything, so whats the point? The only cope i have is reading and knowledge at this point.

FUCK OFF

GET THE FUCK OUT OF THIS SUB

FFFUUUCKK OFFF

Umadbro?

r/redpil

r/theredpill

i agree, good luck with this.. i think Braincels is not as hostile to women as some hard core incel forums can be.. so i appreciate it

hopefully they take your advice to heart and know that ugly girls need love too ..

Well, stop posting that all you need is confidence and I'll stop correcting you. Simple.

Whenever I try to get situation specific information, I get ghosted.

If you think you can help me out with advice - PM me. I'm not entirely sure what you will tell me that I don't already know but I'm open to suggestions. Let see how non-specific you can be for a guy from Ukraine.

Oh I have something wrong with me? Why don't you go over to some third world nation and tell the natives there is something wrong with them? I'm just telling you the reality of things, they are starving to death but they can still waste their energy on rape.... I'm not saying it isn't fucked up, I'm just saying that's probably how it is.

I don't need help other than having a woman love me.

Get an escort for sex. Get a dog for companionship. You are making things more difficult than they need to be.