Debating with women is pointless for the simple reason that they don't run on logic , they run on emotion. They have absolutely no conistent philosophy and are unable to objectively judge the content of an argument . they can only react to how it makes them feel in that moment.
When incels write the above picture into words , women feel judged (negative emotion) and they automatically disagree with it . when the picture presents the same argument in a humourous comic, women feel happy (positive emotion ) and so they agree with it.
It is utterly pointless to debate anything with women.
Also , I can guarantee that because of the way I wrote this post (in a way that will make women feel like they are stupid i.e. negative emotion) they will all disagree with it. I need to make it into a funny picture format for them to agree with it .
Can't tell the difference between bedroom behavior and street behavior
So basically what you're saying is you FEEL like any woman who has a thing for talking dirty in the bedroom is a slut, and you never stop to THINK that being called a slut by strangers is different.
Imagine this: when your friends rib on you, it's cool. There's context, they're obviously joking, and you can roast them right back. It's kind of the same thing. But no, you're thinking with the wrong head and you just want to get laid. I'll tell you, no girl will ever want your dick because you call them whores and roasties in the street/online.
I'm a guy and you're dumb because men act in the way you just described. Not as much as women but it is a lot of them just on different topics, heck that probably is a big reason of what whiteknighting is.
that second one isn't a subjective statement mate. And I don't recall ever saying that they shouldn't have sex with incels, only that they cannot be forced or pressured into sex with incels. Who you choose to have sex with is just that, a personal choice, one which you guys have a history of trying to make for other people.
that second one isn't a subjective statement mate.
i'm sure that if women tried just a little they could find something attractive about incels, like their lack of serious physical deformities, ability to take showers and anime knowledge
only that they cannot be forced or pressured into sex with incels
people are frequently forced an pressured into doing other things they might not think they want to do, like doing chores and jury duty
Who you choose to have sex with is just that, a personal choice
littering is a personal choice, but it's also an antisocial one that people should be pressured for
"Hey, lady- this guy just wrote a three paragraph tirade about how its pointless to discuss things with women, because they lack logic, do you want to have sex with him?"
"No, I dont think Im interested."
"Wow, it doesn't seem like you're trying very hard. Here think about it this way, his buddy just made an analogy about chores. You aren't particularly interested in sweeping the floor, right? Well, consider sex just a chore, like sweeping and that guy is a floor that needs to be swept! Be honest, how are you attracted to him are you NOW?"
"You're right. comparing sex to chores and jury duty DOES show a rational, complete understanding of the social interations contained within sexual attraction. I can't figure out why these guys cant find partners either!"
You're right. comparing sex to chores and jury duty DOES show a rational, complete understanding of the social interations contained within sexual attraction. I can't figure out why these guys cant find partners either!
you know for thousands of years sex within marriage was about duty, not physical attraction
You don't choose who you are attracted to, its comes naturally.
Thats not even analogous in the slightest. Chores are something you need to do to not live in a sty, and jury duty is a civic requirement. Sex is something you can choose to do or not do for pleasure or lack thereof. Its something you don't need to do but may want to.
So now sex is the equivalent of littering? Jesus, sex is not some detriment to society that people need to be prevented from or encouraged into. And also, since other people have been pressured into things in the past we are justified in doing it to other people? Thats the dumbest logic ever.
Uh, yeah. You can completely choose who you're attracted to, save you're extreme on a spectrum; gay or straight.
Attraction isn't fucking set in stone where you are only attracted to one thing forever and there's nothing that can be done, either by yourself, or by external influenced that can change that.
No its not set in stone but you're not suddenly gonna be like i choose this person to be attracted to, Or i will make myself attract to this person. Thats not how it works
That's exactly how it fucking works. That's what I did. I made a conscious effort not to be racist towards Asian and black women and stopped thinking that they were ugly. This conscious effort, made entirely by myself through my own choice, enabled me to be attracted to a group of women I didn't think I would ever be attracted to.
It's a lazy fucking meme that you can't change who you are attracted to, and the one that everyone on reddit loves to espouse because challenging it means stepping outside your comfort zone.
Its not a meme. I genuinely believe that you cannot choose who you are attracted to. I cannot force myself to be attracted to someone. I have no particular "type", or particular creiterion of attraction. But i have never been able to choose who i'm attracted to. I either know, or realise later on when something new is shown or i see them in a different light.
No its not. The way i see it is you were already attracted to those people but couldn't see it, or perhaps refused to see it, because you were prejudiced.
Women prefer fake degradation and submission during consensual sex, which trains men to be degrading and dominante. This carries over to real life. Why is this concept so hard to understand?
if your previous partner likes it yeah, maybe that becomes your kink. but how the fuck does that train virgins who never have sex to be degrading and dominant?? unless you guys watch too many hardcore porn videos and assume all women want that.
What are you talking about? Do you think it's virgins who's cat calling girls on the street and talking about getting laid by sluts in public? Clearly this comic wasn't talking about virgins.
it's talking about assholes with no respect to people around them
And my point is a lot of female behavior, wanting to be dominated and degraded during sex, feeds into this male asshole behavior. I have a charismatic friend who is the most misogynistic person I know. He attracts typical SJW types more than any other guy I've seen, he's said that it's his specialty. He certainly isn't being nice in real life and degrading in the bedroom, he is constantly an asshole.
Please speak for yourself instead of insinuating that men in general are so incapable of distinguishing between fantasy and reality that behaviors from sex will significantly boil over into regular life. Anyone with half a brain understands that sex is very different from day-to-day life, and what works during sex absolutely isn't stuff you should just be causally doing. I'm not that stupid, most men aren't, and if you are, it would be better if you just owned up to it personally instead of dragging the rest of us down with you.
There's a difference between being attracted to virgins, which is fine, and being attracted to dangerous men (jealous, misogynistic, hateful because of their lack of confidence, immature, unable to do anything by themselves, psychologically dependent, etc). That's why we go for virgins without problems, but we would be stupid to go for the second category.
Why don't incels just choose to not be attracted to women? Surely life would be a lot easier if you weren't constantly bitter about not attracting any woman.
I obviously don't know what goes on in their bedrooms, but there are plenty of women who are willing to take actual day to day degradation from the partner as long as said partner is sufficiently attractive. Somehow I don't think the abusive guy who constantly insults and puts down his girlfriend both in public and in private suddenly turns into a gentle lover when the pants come off.
What do you mean "still"? You presented fakeness as the defining criterion, and I just demonstrated how it clearly isn't.
Sure, switch the goal posts now. It's nice to see how easily you give up on your own stated views - goes to show that you don't actually hold any in the first place and just arguing out of hatred. It's an effective and fun way to demonstrate to everyone here that you're not a real person.
This 100%. When my husband/Dom degrades me- it's wonderful. But, I'm His, so, anyone else calling me a slut is very different. I'm only one man's trash/slut/property.
The question is why do you feel that way with some men and not others
Its consistently the same men that women are choosing to be submissive to. That's the point of the image . that women are happy to be a slut so long as it's for Chad
it's talking about assholes with no respect to people around them
And my point is a lot of female behavior, wanting to be dominated and degraded during sex, feeds into this male asshole behavior. I have a charismatic friend who is the most misogynistic person I know. He attracts typical SJW types more than any other guy I've seen, he's said that it's his specialty. He certainly isn't being nice in real life and degrading in the bedroom, he is constantly an asshole.
109 comments
4 AreYouHECCINJoking 2018-02-25
The difference between the first three panels and the last one is consent.
2 MaleFAer 2018-02-25
You misspelled Chad
-2 AreYouHECCINJoking 2018-02-25
What a gem. No wonder you’re an incel.
1 iQ9k 2018-02-25
lulz
1 Zyros_ 2018-02-25
I have his same ideals and am not incel. How?
1 boxingguy1234 2018-02-25
Yes, how would you explain people with the same ideas, but not incel?
1 sc2isadeadgame 2018-02-25
https://i.redd.it/ta1ls5ueibaz.jpg
1 Board_Gaming 2018-02-25
This is a dumb image. No one needs to consent but the two people engaging in the act.
1 sc2isadeadgame 2018-02-25
people still get prosecuted for consensual cannibalism so you're wrong
https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/8gdwdp/cannibal-fetishists-403
1 MMDT 2018-02-25
I can't believe you're replying seriously to that image
1 Zyros_ 2018-02-25
u srs taking a meme seriously
1 Carkudo 2018-02-25
Which itself is given on the basis of attraction.
1 Grand_boy 2018-02-25
HOW FUCKING DARE SUB 8 MEN DARE TO TALK TO A WOMAN.
-3 derpyderpderp42069 2018-02-25
the difference between the the girl in the comic and a girl that I admire is self respect not to be a submissive thot.
1 MMDT 2018-02-25
Debating with women is pointless for the simple reason that they don't run on logic , they run on emotion. They have absolutely no conistent philosophy and are unable to objectively judge the content of an argument . they can only react to how it makes them feel in that moment.
When incels write the above picture into words , women feel judged (negative emotion) and they automatically disagree with it . when the picture presents the same argument in a humourous comic, women feel happy (positive emotion ) and so they agree with it.
It is utterly pointless to debate anything with women.
Also , I can guarantee that because of the way I wrote this post (in a way that will make women feel like they are stupid i.e. negative emotion) they will all disagree with it. I need to make it into a funny picture format for them to agree with it .
1 askylitfall 2018-02-25
So basically what you're saying is you FEEL like any woman who has a thing for talking dirty in the bedroom is a slut, and you never stop to THINK that being called a slut by strangers is different.
Imagine this: when your friends rib on you, it's cool. There's context, they're obviously joking, and you can roast them right back. It's kind of the same thing. But no, you're thinking with the wrong head and you just want to get laid. I'll tell you, no girl will ever want your dick because you call them whores and roasties in the street/online.
1 CptErection23 2018-02-25
Debating with women feels like trying to catch a cat. They jump all over the place and attack you personally when cornered.
1 Slave_anna 2018-02-25
Have you ever had a relationship with a woman besides mother/sisters? Sounds like you have no real life experience romantically with a woman.
1 MMDT 2018-02-25
Many times, I'm in one right now
1 Guppychang 2018-02-25
How delusional can you be
0 derpyderpderp42069 2018-02-25
I'm a guy and you're dumb because men act in the way you just described. Not as much as women but it is a lot of them just on different topics, heck that probably is a big reason of what whiteknighting is.
1 MMDT 2018-02-25
So we agree with each other
I am obviously not saying all 3.5 billion on the planet act one way and all 3.5 billion men act another
-2 fishet 2018-02-25
I just don't know what to say to this retardation
2 Incel9876 2018-02-25
Confused which word to pull from your intellectual toolbox: racist, sexist, or homophobe? Can't even! Literally worse than Hitler, amirighte?
1 fishet 2018-02-25
No it's more the sheer ass tier logic that tells me nothing I say will have any effect on your stupidity
2 cookin_breakfast 2018-02-25
Don't worry, we're not interested in what you have to say or what type of emotional lashing out you could come up with.
1 fishet 2018-02-25
You mean you're w orried your arguments fall apart under the lightest scrutiny
1 sc2isadeadgame 2018-02-25
your arguments hold subjective statements as facts, like "women shouldn't have sex with incels" and "women can't choose to be attracted to incels"
1 fishet 2018-02-25
that second one isn't a subjective statement mate. And I don't recall ever saying that they shouldn't have sex with incels, only that they cannot be forced or pressured into sex with incels. Who you choose to have sex with is just that, a personal choice, one which you guys have a history of trying to make for other people.
1 sc2isadeadgame 2018-02-25
i'm sure that if women tried just a little they could find something attractive about incels, like their lack of serious physical deformities, ability to take showers and anime knowledge
people are frequently forced an pressured into doing other things they might not think they want to do, like doing chores and jury duty
littering is a personal choice, but it's also an antisocial one that people should be pressured for
1 Thaaleo 2018-02-25
"Hey, lady- this guy just wrote a three paragraph tirade about how its pointless to discuss things with women, because they lack logic, do you want to have sex with him?"
"No, I dont think Im interested."
"Wow, it doesn't seem like you're trying very hard. Here think about it this way, his buddy just made an analogy about chores. You aren't particularly interested in sweeping the floor, right? Well, consider sex just a chore, like sweeping and that guy is a floor that needs to be swept! Be honest, how are you attracted to him are you NOW?"
"You're right. comparing sex to chores and jury duty DOES show a rational, complete understanding of the social interations contained within sexual attraction. I can't figure out why these guys cant find partners either!"
1 sc2isadeadgame 2018-02-25
you know for thousands of years sex within marriage was about duty, not physical attraction
1 Thaaleo 2018-02-25
Right, and marriage was largely an arrangement, not a parter found or attracted.
So?
1 fishet 2018-02-25
You don't choose who you are attracted to, its comes naturally.
Thats not even analogous in the slightest. Chores are something you need to do to not live in a sty, and jury duty is a civic requirement. Sex is something you can choose to do or not do for pleasure or lack thereof. Its something you don't need to do but may want to.
So now sex is the equivalent of littering? Jesus, sex is not some detriment to society that people need to be prevented from or encouraged into. And also, since other people have been pressured into things in the past we are justified in doing it to other people? Thats the dumbest logic ever.
1 Stagetail 2018-02-25
great meme
1 fishet 2018-02-25
Your saying to do choose who you're attracted to?
1 Stagetail 2018-02-25
Uh, yeah. You can completely choose who you're attracted to, save you're extreme on a spectrum; gay or straight.
Attraction isn't fucking set in stone where you are only attracted to one thing forever and there's nothing that can be done, either by yourself, or by external influenced that can change that.
1 fishet 2018-02-25
No its not set in stone but you're not suddenly gonna be like i choose this person to be attracted to, Or i will make myself attract to this person. Thats not how it works
1 Stagetail 2018-02-25
That's exactly how it fucking works. That's what I did. I made a conscious effort not to be racist towards Asian and black women and stopped thinking that they were ugly. This conscious effort, made entirely by myself through my own choice, enabled me to be attracted to a group of women I didn't think I would ever be attracted to.
It's a lazy fucking meme that you can't change who you are attracted to, and the one that everyone on reddit loves to espouse because challenging it means stepping outside your comfort zone.
1 fishet 2018-02-25
You experienced a realization of attraction after overcoming a prejudice. Thats not choosing your attraction.
1 Stagetail 2018-02-25
Fucking unbelievable. The extent you fucking normies will go to justify your retarded meme will never surprise me.
1 fishet 2018-02-25
Its not a meme. I genuinely believe that you cannot choose who you are attracted to. I cannot force myself to be attracted to someone. I have no particular "type", or particular creiterion of attraction. But i have never been able to choose who i'm attracted to. I either know, or realise later on when something new is shown or i see them in a different light.
1 Stagetail 2018-02-25
In your mind, 'overcoming' prejudice is not the same as changing attraction.
Fuck you. inb4 i already get fukt more than tee hee
1 fishet 2018-02-25
No its not. The way i see it is you were already attracted to those people but couldn't see it, or perhaps refused to see it, because you were prejudiced.
1 Stagetail 2018-02-25
Nope.
1 fishet 2018-02-25
You wanna explain that?
1 Stagetail 2018-02-25
Fuck off.
1 fishet 2018-02-25
Because you don't want to explain or because you can't?
1 Stagetail 2018-02-25
Fuck off.
1 fishet 2018-02-25
I take it its the latter then?
1 Stagetail 2018-02-25
Fuck off.
1 fishet 2018-02-25
Uhuh
1 MMDT 2018-02-25
good point well made. i change my mind
1 iQ9k 2018-02-25
Blackest blackpill to swallow. Its fucking disgusting the hypocrisy here
1 Morphing-Taxi 2018-02-25
Think there’s a slight difference between, fake degradation during (consensual) sex and yk being treated like a piece of meat by total strangers.
1 Zyros_ 2018-02-25
Its not fake degradation. Its true degradation but when it comes from a good looking male it's ok to be treated like some object.
1 Morphing-Taxi 2018-02-25
Ever heard of roleplay? It’s a fetish, helps them get off. One of the most tame once I might add.
1 SickMuseArrow 2018-02-25
Hot take : women prefer fake degradation during consensual sex than actual degradation by strangers
1 Lovemesometoasts 2018-02-25
exactly! why is this concept so hard to understand?
1 CptErection23 2018-02-25
Women prefer fake degradation and submission during consensual sex, which trains men to be degrading and dominante. This carries over to real life. Why is this concept so hard to understand?
1 Lovemesometoasts 2018-02-25
if your previous partner likes it yeah, maybe that becomes your kink. but how the fuck does that train virgins who never have sex to be degrading and dominant?? unless you guys watch too many hardcore porn videos and assume all women want that.
1 CptErection23 2018-02-25
What are you talking about? Do you think it's virgins who's cat calling girls on the street and talking about getting laid by sluts in public? Clearly this comic wasn't talking about virgins.
1 Lovemesometoasts 2018-02-25
true, it's talking about assholes with no respect to people around them
1 CptErection23 2018-02-25
And my point is a lot of female behavior, wanting to be dominated and degraded during sex, feeds into this male asshole behavior. I have a charismatic friend who is the most misogynistic person I know. He attracts typical SJW types more than any other guy I've seen, he's said that it's his specialty. He certainly isn't being nice in real life and degrading in the bedroom, he is constantly an asshole.
1 NotQuiteSane42 2018-02-25
Please speak for yourself instead of insinuating that men in general are so incapable of distinguishing between fantasy and reality that behaviors from sex will significantly boil over into regular life. Anyone with half a brain understands that sex is very different from day-to-day life, and what works during sex absolutely isn't stuff you should just be causally doing. I'm not that stupid, most men aren't, and if you are, it would be better if you just owned up to it personally instead of dragging the rest of us down with you.
1 Slave_anna 2018-02-25
They wouldn't know because they've never had sex. That's why they think all the stupid shit think... They have no real life experience to work with.
1 Slave_anna 2018-02-25
They wouldn't know because they've never had sex. That's why they think all the stupid shit think... They have no real life experience to work with.
1 Slave_anna 2018-02-25
They wouldn't know because they've never had sex. That's why they think all the stupid shit think... They have no real life experience to work with.
1 behindcloseddoors1 2018-02-25
It trains women to only want aggressive and dominant men in real life, but when an incel tries to act like that he's branded a racist.
1 sc2isadeadgame 2018-02-25
well why don't women just have consensual sex with incels then huh
everybody wins
1 SickMuseArrow 2018-02-25
Sex without attraction isn't sex, there's no win in self-rape
1 sc2isadeadgame 2018-02-25
well why don't women just choose to become attracted to incels then
i'm sure that if they put in the effort they'd enjoy the experience
1 SickMuseArrow 2018-02-25
There's a difference between being attracted to virgins, which is fine, and being attracted to dangerous men (jealous, misogynistic, hateful because of their lack of confidence, immature, unable to do anything by themselves, psychologically dependent, etc). That's why we go for virgins without problems, but we would be stupid to go for the second category.
1 sc2isadeadgame 2018-02-25
yeah but think of how much it'd mean to incels
1 SickMuseArrow 2018-02-25
Yeah but think of how I don't want to get abused
1 sc2isadeadgame 2018-02-25
i'm sure incels would behave like perfect gentlemen if it meant they'd get sex
1 sc2isadeadgame 2018-02-25
i'm sure incels would behave like perfect gentlemen if it meant they'd get sex
1 SickMuseArrow 2018-02-25
I don't want a liar.
1 sc2isadeadgame 2018-02-25
i'm sure incels would tell the truth if it meant they'd get sex
1 SickMuseArrow 2018-02-25
Still don't want a Chad, because that's what a Chad would do ;)
1 sc2isadeadgame 2018-02-25
i didn't mention chad at all
1 Slave_anna 2018-02-25
I don't give a shit. No one owes you sex no matter how crazed for it you are.
1 sc2isadeadgame 2018-02-25
better get rid of all those fancy "rights" you gained 100 years ago then
1 Lembot226 2018-02-25
holy fuck please tell me this shit is ironic.
1 Slave_anna 2018-02-25
As a slave, I have no rights, only privileges. Go ahead.
1 onlyonebread 2018-02-25
Why don't incels just choose to not be attracted to women? Surely life would be a lot easier if you weren't constantly bitter about not attracting any woman.
1 CptErection23 2018-02-25
That wouldn't be fake degradation, it would be real.
1 sc2isadeadgame 2018-02-25
i don't think there's anything degrading about having consensual sex with an incel
1 Carkudo 2018-02-25
I obviously don't know what goes on in their bedrooms, but there are plenty of women who are willing to take actual day to day degradation from the partner as long as said partner is sufficiently attractive. Somehow I don't think the abusive guy who constantly insults and puts down his girlfriend both in public and in private suddenly turns into a gentle lover when the pants come off.
1 SickMuseArrow 2018-02-25
Yeah that's still consensual and the biggest difference with getting abused in the street
1 Carkudo 2018-02-25
What do you mean "still"? You presented fakeness as the defining criterion, and I just demonstrated how it clearly isn't.
Sure, switch the goal posts now. It's nice to see how easily you give up on your own stated views - goes to show that you don't actually hold any in the first place and just arguing out of hatred. It's an effective and fun way to demonstrate to everyone here that you're not a real person.
1 SickMuseArrow 2018-02-25
What the hell is that paranoid bs, get a grip it's boring
1 TropicalStormJim 2018-02-25
typical femoid argumentation
1 SickMuseArrow 2018-02-25
Too bored to care
1 Carkudo 2018-02-25
Yeah, boredom and rage are exactly the reactions someone like you would have to being called out as not being a real person.
1 Nederweed 2018-02-25
Low iq post.
1 Zyros_ 2018-02-25
Correction: Women prefer ANYTHING degradation or not as long as it comes from a good looking male.
1 SickMuseArrow 2018-02-25
Correction : no. Sincerely, a woman
1 mookmill 2018-02-25
It’s almost like none of these incels have any idea what a female wants.
1 SickMuseArrow 2018-02-25
Yup
1 behindcloseddoors1 2018-02-25
We know they want Chad
1 behindcloseddoors1 2018-02-25
Yes.
1 Slave_anna 2018-02-25
This 100%. When my husband/Dom degrades me- it's wonderful. But, I'm His, so, anyone else calling me a slut is very different. I'm only one man's trash/slut/property.
1 CptErection23 2018-02-25
Thank God. I hope he picks up after himself.
1 Slave_anna 2018-02-25
Oh, He does. He recycles, too.
1 CptErection23 2018-02-25
Thank God. I hope he picks up after himself.
1 MMDT 2018-02-25
The question is why do you feel that way with some men and not others
Its consistently the same men that women are choosing to be submissive to. That's the point of the image . that women are happy to be a slut so long as it's for Chad
1 Slave_anna 2018-02-25
I feel that way with the one man I'm with. I'm only like that with the man I trust thr most- my husband.
1 behindcloseddoors1 2018-02-25
Fuck you I want to kill myself now
0 Tallguy_87 2018-02-25
The other men were just incel
1 sc2isadeadgame 2018-02-25
well why don't women just choose to become attracted to incels then
i'm sure that if they put in the effort they'd enjoy the experience
1 CptErection23 2018-02-25
And my point is a lot of female behavior, wanting to be dominated and degraded during sex, feeds into this male asshole behavior. I have a charismatic friend who is the most misogynistic person I know. He attracts typical SJW types more than any other guy I've seen, he's said that it's his specialty. He certainly isn't being nice in real life and degrading in the bedroom, he is constantly an asshole.
1 fishet 2018-02-25
Because you don't want to explain or because you can't?