IncelTears, you are not entitled to give us advice. We don't owe you validation.

52  2018-02-23 by Alia_Harkonnen

IncelTears, I've been reading your sub to better understand why you hate us so, because I am a deeply sensitive person concerned about your well being and also very curious so it was all just fascinating. I realized from your many complaints and personal experiences you shared, you hate us because we hurt you so much by rejecting your advice and help, so now you vilify us to feel better about yourselves. Refer to the title.

You're so pissed that people on a sub (which isn't an advice sub) aren't responsive to your advice and offers of guidance. Constantly discussing whether to keep on believing or give up, tortured by all that pent up need to coach, and in the end, just having to validate each other in your own threads to your great dissatisfaction. So stuck in your toxic echo chamber that you don't even see there is a world out there where people do all kinds of things that don't revolve around giving or taking advice.

I understand that our rejection hurts, but we don't owe you anything. You can hate us for it, but I don't think it will help improve your situation.

There are many other miserable people out there who would gladly listen to you, yes even you, no matter how crap your advice is or how low your social status is, they will hear you out because all they really want is a little attention. I mean, I've seen some on your own subreddit, begging to be coached, and you just pat them on the back and go back to obsessing about us. Ouch.

You know what that is? Unrealistic standards. You could be satisfied with your average fat girl no Chad ever calls back, or the polite friendzoned niceguy, or all sorts of nice but confused miserable lonely people out there eagerly smiling and waving in your direction waiting for you to notice, happy to just have someone to talk to. But no. You think you are better than them, after all they'd talk to just anybody so that won't do. Nothing but the most miserable fucks for your skillset, right Dr Phil? Only those who have never been normanized by anyone before, else it's not really challenging.

Well look where this pickiness got you. Writing "7 steps to self improvement", "sense of humor - fake it till you make it" and "how personality helped me win my battle with inceldom" rants on your subreddit knowing they are only read by other unsuccessful life gurus. Telling each other we are to blame, but have you ever thought that maybe the problem is you, that maybe everything you say is just shit and your comprehension skills are lacking? If it weren't so, you wouldn't be here. You'd have your own practice. You'd have your own show. Write books. At the very least, you'd have a million upvotes and get 100s of PMs every day titled "Seeking Help." R/depression, r/lonely millions of subs filled with unanswered calls for help would all cease to exist because YOU made a difference.. Instead you unsuccessfully obsess over one small group of people who don't want you. How sad is that?

Maybe this is because you know that you can't really help anyone. Somewhere deep inside you know you would only let down that hopeful almost-there-but-struggling soul who just wants a friend. You'd get their hopes up and then what? They'd start boring you to death, you'd run out of things to say to them, you really really really wouldn't want to have to deal with listening to the crap they eagerly overshare, and eventually you'll just ghost them and make them rope or something. So it's easier to just focus on us, the unobtainable, and comfort yourself that we are to blame for why your help isn't helpful.

Come on, snap out of it. Focus on other things, I swear no one will judge you for not being a good advice giver. So you've never helped a person out of their misery, so what? You can still find personal value in other ways. Give yourself advice! That should keep you preoccupied. No? Why would anyone take your advice if you can't even find fulfillment in taking it yourself?

Anyway that's just something I had to say, it really hurts to see y'all hurting yourself just because you lack the natural gift of possessing any kind of understanding of anything. Sometimes giving up is the first step towards a better, more fulfilling existence.

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guys, holy fuck, i am sorry, but this is what has to go down:
You guys suffer. Your fault or not- does not matter. It is impossible to look at any incel related board and not see suffering. Constant talking about suicide. Constant self loathing. FFS, stop doing this to yourselves. If you cannot get laid and feel sad about it, it is normal. Most people have been there, including those who you refer to as chads. If anything is going to fix it, it is not constant self loathing, and suicide thoughts, and echoing depressing thoughts derrived from previous depressing thoughts

So if someone wants you to give you advice, then no matter if you are willing to take it or not, consider this- it is still infinitely better than what you offer to each other. Don't bite the hand that feeds.

And btw. ER was pretty damn handsome. Should he not fall down the incel culture rabbbit hole, he would get some.

Don't bite the hand that feeds.

The hand doesnt feed at all you fucking clown. The only thing the hand does is hit us and then tells us "this is why you cant have food" when we bite.

ok, ok, ok... now tell me- why bite in the first place?

Because the all the hand does is hit you? Are you stupid or something? I literally said it in my previous post

i did not hit you.

Constant self loathing. FFS, stop doing this to yourselves.

Do you realize how awfully smug you sound right now?

frankly, I do. I used to be, more or less, where you are ATM. I used to feel mocked too. Belive me, mocking you is the last thing on my intention list.

I used to be, more or less, where you are ATM

At 25 with the only romantic experience of your life is the girl dumping you when you admitted that she's your first girlfriend? I don't think so.

look, there is not a single person in the world who experienced the exact same thing you did. however i know how it feels to feel perpetually rejected. i know how it feels to be hurt by a woman. also in a cruel way. And i know how it feels to repeat those thoughts over and over. And feel even worse.

Well, I'm glad that you understand and sad that you had to experience that. Do you have to be smug about it, though?

I know, that what i say sounds smug. But I assure you I am not. I have no feelings of being superior to you, as i have been there.

Don't be jelly because he's had one girlfriend more than you.

It's not up to you to tell me what is better for me. There's no "hand that feeds" if I'm neither eating from it nor is it offering food. We all know the crap you say, and at least suicide and self loathing don't require lobotomy as fare as topics go.

never seen anyone recommending lobotomy to fix your problems.

No, lobotomy would be required to carry out a conversation with you people. As you just demonstrated

you are having a conversation with me right now. you are not lobotomized. we are perfectly capable of conversating without needless surgeries.

This is not what a conversation looks like. We are just sending comments back and forth without any kind of information exchange being possible. We can do the same thing in two different languages or by randomly pressing on our keyboard, result would be the same.

some information does get through tough. for example you have made it perfectly clear, that in your perception i cannot understand you. I know now, that my interlocutor feels misunderstood. which is a perfectly valid, exchanged piece of information.

now, if you do not mind, can you tell me what is it that i do not understand? (feel free to reply privately)

Oh god, just shut the fuck up with your bitching.

Go choke on a dick cuck

Go finish learning how to self fuck, since no one wants to fuck you. I surely wouldn't fuck someone (most of you) with a shitty personality. You guys are douchebag Chads without the looks.

I surely wouldn't fuck someone (most of you) with a shitty personality.

I wouldn't fuck your used up rancid cunt or gaping asshole anyway, my dick couldn't get hard to those fleshy leftovers even if tried. Don't talk about personality, yours consists of your cunt except an average sex doll has more personality than you. Overvalidated and overfucked, just shut your cum filled mouth and go be an annoyance around someone who'll at least cope by hate fucking you the way you like it.

And you wonder why people don't like y'all 😂😂

Constant self loathing. FFS, stop doing this to yourselves.

Just stop being depressed about zero to minuscule romantic experience.

/r/wowthanksimcured

being depressed about this thing is perfectly normal.

One would think so. You do realize it's impossible to be completely not having bad thoughts about anything bad ever at will, right?

yes, i do.

kill yourself you numale faggot

"Hm. They are complaining about useless advice... Oh but they haven't heard my useless advice!"

You are a narcissist.

As much as I love your posts, could we all just please stop adressing IT? Just pretent they don't exist

Kinda hard when they are trying to get us removed from the Internet.

They will do this with or without us giving them attention.

Inceltears remove posts, ban people with opposing opinions and just censors everyone that doesn't agree with their own views.

Yet they call us an echo chamber LOL

That's just how SJWs behave. Extremists gonna extreme.

  • Remove sexist posts

  • Ban sexist people

  • Censors sexism

HUH

anything I don't like is sexism

SJW confirmed.

Anything that is blind hatred of women is sexism.

I'm not even a lurker, I just found this place and have seen one post. You sound like a real bitch right now, if you don't like what these people say then Go tHe fUcK aWaY.

First note. This sub is about virgins (Incels- Involuntary Celibates). In of itself, that's a good thing, a group meant for people with a similar issue talking about it and hopefully escaping that problem.

The issue here is that most of them hate women because they are virgins, believing they OWE them sex. This is an extension of r/incels and incels.me, both of which supported rape, slavery, sexual harassment, etc etc. There was even talk of how the government should allow organ donors to have sex with a female body for up to three days after death.

Also, r/peoplefuckingdying user?

Strawman and projection.

For starters, this sub is meant to vent and express ideas that revolve around our unfulfilled desires. You will never escape being an incel by being here, because that is not the point of this sub.

Secondly, while there is a predominant frustration towards women here, it is not at all misplaced. Is there hate? For some, yes, but not all. Again, you seem to fail at understanding nuance.

As for being owed sex, that is really a loaded statement. Sex is an integral part of being a healthy adult. The problem comes in exactly detailing how to go about that for men who, 25 and older, have never 1) never engaged in it before, and 2) never having someone interested in them. So the transactional process of x + y = zed (zed equates to sex) has never been properly explained, and what has been given as advice has been proven to not work for us.

So that leads to a spiraling descent of wanting to have sex and unable to have to it. And since it is the women seemingly denying and rejecting us for either reasonable or ridiculous reasons, the only natural conclusion from this is a strong dislike that can evolve into hate.

There really is no mystery here at all.

The "nuance" here is that most people here hate women. Most. That's the point of IT. That fact is not nuanced and that is why it's weird you missed that.

That really doesn't mean anything. Nobody is owed sex in any way. There's your advice.

The mystery is why you so fervently defend it as the right way.

And I clarified further on where this dislike and possible hate comes from. You eventually hate what causes you pain.

And if nobody is owed sex, then tell me what the process is of going about having it? Indeed if people actually believed that then no one would have it. But that's where the breakdown happens. There isn't a causal connection between doing x together with y to have/get zed. That's why the advice that gets touted is useless. People have sex with people they are physically attracted to. No other reason. You don't have to work or earn anything because that's not how nature works.

So yes, people are entitled to it, but that still doesn't mean they get it.

Nobody is OWED sex. You may get it, it is very enjoyable, but it is not a human right or even a need of an individual human, only a need of a species.

So no. People are not entitled. Sex is not something one should automatically get regardless of every other facet of their being. A woman is not expected to just give it to you nor should she be, she is a human with her own rights. Your statements mean almost nothing.

CUCK

There it is. Was expecting that.

Sex is a need. Sex is the only thing that matters. There are women who fuck dogs, but you're telling me that we are somehow unworthy of sex.

Go get cucked.

There are guys who fuck dogs too. You wanna fuck a dog, you go find a dog and fuck it somewhere where it's legal, more power to you.

I'm not saying you are unworthy. I'm saying you folks need to clean your shit up.

Like, for isntance, "Sex is the only thing that matters" PROBABLY isn't a mentality that's gonna help you, smartass. I'd say go get fucked as a comeback, but I feel that would wooosh you.

how wit

how enlightening

Your first was "CUCK"

Not sure if you understand that you're the dumb one here, mate

dang fam u smart as hell

/r/peoplefuckingdying is an extremely wholesome place

This is true.

lmao

Fucken stickied boyo hammer those idiots.

INCELTEARS BLOWN AWAY THE FUCK OUT MAXKEK

Holy shit. IncelTears completely btfo. Good job man. This is some top quality writing.

LEAVE NORMIETEARS. YOU WANT US TO BECOME DELUSIONAL AND ACCEPTING OF SOCIOCULTURAL DOGMAS, JUST LIKE YOURSELVES, but we have been beyond reach of peer pressure for too long! THE CONFORMISTS WANT EVERYONE TO CONFORM, BUT WE, THE INCELS CANNOT BECAUSE OF BIOLOGICAL DIFFERENCES WHICH MAKES US THREATENING TO THEIR PRECIOUS SOCIETY BUILT UPON LIES. WE ARE INHERENTLY DEVIANT AND DIFFICULT TO CONTROL THROUGH CONVENTIONAL MEANS, SO THESE CULTURE WARRIORS DARE COME TO OUR FRONT DOORSTEP IN HOPE OF CONVERTING US! WELL IT WILL NEVER WORK UNLESS YOU PERFORM LOBOTOMIES ON ALL OF US! NORMIES, GO HOME TO THE REST OF REDDIT! INCEL REBELLION NOW! GO HOME TO YOUR FRIENDS, FAMILY AND GIRLFRIENDS SOCIOCULTURAL IMPERIALISTS!

Threatening LOL more like a play thing

I offered help once, but then I realized that there’s a difference between an “incel” and someone who can’t get laid. People who can’t get laid are bummed about it but generally try to make their lives better so that it will eventually happen. “Incels” enjoy the culture of victimhood and would rather blame some obscure trait that they had to google in the first place(canthal tilt, etc. - girls don’t pay attention to that shit, only YOU do) than take responsibility for their own happiness. And I get it - if the problem is something you can never fix, it spares you the effort of having to actually try. So of COURSE “incels” don’t want advice - they’re perfectly happy being perfectly unhappy, and who am I to fuck with their happiness?

goteem

Out of interest, what kind of advice have you offered? Something trite, probably?

Dude, I used to be an incel before it had a name. Till I was in my 20s, in fact. I have the advantage of experiencing BOTH sides of this particular coin, and I wanted to share what I learned so that other people wouldn’t have to experience the shit that I went through. Big mistake on my part - I won’t make that mistake again. I feel that the people here are genuinely hurting, and it sucks to see. I got mad love for you guys, and I’m sorry you’re in pain.

How dare you to assume that your experience translates to experiences of others?

Um, because lots of us have different experiences, and I have just as little right to invalidate yours as do you mine.

So of COURSE “incels” don’t want advice - they’re perfectly happy being perfectly unhappy, and who am I to fuck with their happiness?

You're nobody. But just because a problem has no solution doesn't mean it's not a problem or that we should now be happy. Just means you have nothing relevant to say about this or any other topic and should fuck off.

All I meant was that if it was a problem you wanted to solve, you’d do it. I’ve seen the debates on this forum - while I don’t particularly agree with what you’re saying, you have the ability to elucidate it(and other things) quite well, which means that you’re smart enough to figure that shit out. But don’t let my belief in you get in the way of your condescending nicknames for people you don’t like. By all means, insult me. I promise you I won’t lose any sleep over it.

All I meant was that if it was a problem you wanted to solve, you’d do it.

Man I should've known. I'll let all those starving kids in africa that their problem of malnutrition is solved by wanting it solved. Ill also let those with uncurable diseases know that they just aren't trying enough. Victim of homophobia? You just didn't want the problem solved enough same with minorities and cops. If they didn't want to get shot when doing nothing wrong then they should've just wanted to not get shot more. Good advice real good.

I think it’s a bit of a stretch to try to draw equivalences between not having sex and world hunger, AIDS, homophobia, and the racial tension between minorities and law enforcement. I’m sure it feels that way, but that kind of argument doesn’t hold water and makes you look both really egocentric, which I’d like to think you’re not.

I waw just making fun of your phrase "if you wanted your problem solved you would have done it by now" as if all of lifes problems could be solved that way. I wasn't comparing us to them.

Fair enough. Humor + internet isn’t always the easiest to read into.

Lul

You're right, you don't owe IT or any other sub anything. Just like women don't owe you sex or attention.

It's over for inceltears pseudotherapists

holy fuck, absolutely brilliant and savage.

It's all the more savage when there's no profanity or name-calling. Brilliant.

It's sad that those useless cunts won't accept this reality check. But it's okay, they'll protect women, as long as women will use them as a source of food and self validation.

This sub is talking about IT all day long. They do affect you right ?

In the same way a gnat buzzing around your ear might affect you.

Yep, they would not get so riled up if they thought we were wrong, imagine someone saying, "the sky is purple." Are you seriously going to argue with someone who says that? It also doesn't make sense these cucks say, "looks don't matter" yet would probably cry themselves to sleep if someone called them ugly, showing that deep down they do care about their looks, and they don't like them, so they spewt these lies. Some chads do it for marketing purposes but chad is generally aware

So according to other incel logic, you're so riled up because you think IT is correct.

It's as if we're not a monolithic collective. Shocker, I know.

These morbidly obese roasties and androgynous incels-in-denial are real social prodigies, aren't they?

Well, I know that I'm socially retarded. What does that make them?

Delusional

Oh, but women are, according to incels right? IT is also, right? Society, normies, white knights, cucks, chads, all out to get you right? lol.

You play the <all one group of people> game, so do I.

Oh, but women are, according to incels right?

According to some incels. You're again trying to hold people who are united by their lack of romantic experience into something more coherent.

I'm not the one who made your subreddit my dude, I didn't decide to call you all incels, you did. You wanted coherency with your ideology, and now you're mad that we accept you as a group (albeit a hate group).

Being a male virgin is not an ideology.

lol not all virgins are incels. And most "involuntarily celibates" wouldn't call themselves incels.

lol not all virgins are incels.

Sure there's ones that are voluntarily celibate.

And most "involuntarily celibates" wouldn't call themselves incels.

Except you literally just did label them as that with that very comment, so you understand that what you "call" yourself has zero reflection upon what you are. Incel means involuntarily celibate, just because you've made up your own definition doesn't change that.

Nah dawg incels stopped being just "involuntarily celibate" when yall decided to hero worship Elliot Rodger, develop your own lingo (blackpill, roasties, femoids, ect), and concentrate in your own little groups.

Now you're a culture, you're subreddit even says so dawg.

Welcome to r/Braincels! If you want a fun, energizing, and thought-provoking atmosphere for incel culture, you've come to the right place. Quick ground rules:

Not all involuntarily celibate people support your fucked up culture. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Except I don't worship Elliot Rodgers and I don't hold misogynistic views. I'm a male virgin and therefore an incel like the rest of the other men that are virgins.

Blocked for trolling.

lol

I'm not the one who made your subreddit my dude, I didn't decide to call you all incels, you did.

What are you literally on about.

You wanted coherency with your ideology,

I again missed a memo where we have an ideology. Darn.

What a darn shame..


Darn Counter: 460558

It's pretty hard to miss, it goes something like

"waa I'm an incel and I'm so sad, it's all roasties/femoids/chads/cucks/white knights fault!" "We're so pathetic the government should find us girlfriends or women should sleep with us as a community service"

Oh yeah, the fat bait you keep chugging.

Now, I don't suggest that it's all bait, there are surely people like zielony who seem to be at least mildly disturbed but how about you treat the user separately of the place they post in? Be better than incels that don't do that?

treat the user seperately of the place they post in

That would actually take the slightest bit of effort ;)

IncelTears, you are not entitled to give us advice. We don't owe you validation.

but how about you treat the user separately of the place they post in?

More incel hypocrisy?

Was that post written by a single member of the community or by a collective?

mfw /u/DrJohanzaKafuhu is trying to argue

smh, fam.

A person wrote it, a community defended it.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Do you act obtuse on purpose or are you actually obtuse?

Do you act obtuse on purpose or are you actually obtuse?

Do you act obtuse on purpose or are you actually obtuse?

lol mad much? reply the same thing 3 times some more.

gottem.

Blame reddit servers, not me.

So which one is it?

I just play the game the way it's played, like you can say anything to an incel and they read it however they want. I can play the same games you cucks do lol.

If you don't like it, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Troll it is.

/u/daskettenrad Atleast he proved the original point beautifully. Some juicy screencaps here.

Oh noes! lol.

Oh boy, more shit that doesn't apply :D

So knowing what you are gives you the clear to be a massive cunt? You could apply the same logic to hateful incels.

lol holy shit, ok I get it now.

Yall are IT posters trying to get more hate for the incels. Making bait posts and shit, it's all so clear. Keep up the good work brother.

Yaaay, more shit you pulled out of your ass :)

Nah I get it, it's cool man.

You make bait posts to bring hate, then you're like "Why do you hate us?"

It's cool, I support you.

Step up your trolling game, currently you're just making an ass out of yourself. Honestly kind of precious to watch.

lol keep up the good work.

Fuck off :)

Dude it's cool, you can chill now.

You don't have to act like a triggered incel anymore, I get it.

Fuck off. You're still full of shit :)

lol alright man, I'll stop blowing up your shit, you wouldn't want anyone else to catch on :)

Weak troll, 0/10.

lol come on man, it's expert work though, so I can understand why you wouldn't want it known.

You bait post for hate and to troll, the virtue signaling, turning incels on each other, the obvious hypocrisy designed to bait and troll.

It's well crafted and designed for an emotional response, so well done. I'm really impressed. Honestly.

Last response to you because now you're not even trying anymore.

No.

IT at large can go fuck themselves imo.

Suck it :)

lol keep up the good work my dude.

I just play the game the way it's played, like you can say anything to an incel and they read it however they want. I can play the same games you cucks do lol.

Schedule an appointment with a psychiatrist, 'cause this sounds like schizophasia to me.

it makes me concerned about the well being of my sensitive incel brothers that are suicidal and bullied by IT users yes.

The absolute mad man. Inceltears absolutely SHREKT. I'd upvote this twice, but for some reason, I can't even upvote this once.

Not to worry. I up voted, then said this is for u/ScionOfTheLion and then hit it again. Only counted once but hey, semantics.

Wouldn't hitting the upvote button twice just cancel it out

I made sure it was orange. We're good. 👍

damn thats decent

I try. Then I stop trying. Lol

Good post. I think it's unfortunate that they banned you because you're the right person to argue with them on their own sub.

I think it's unfortunate that they banned you

Maybe I should ask Porks to unban me, after all she did confess to being sexually aroused by me back when she thought I roped so now she's embarrassed.

Lmao can you elaborate?

I'm curious to hear more as well lol.

who even cares about IT?

3 posts on the front page and a sticky with IT in it. So... you do.

I care about you too, girl.

<3

tbh, we do care a bit about our fan club, but they simply can't get enough of us! Literally all the posts on IncelTards have us or someone who they think is us in it.

Lots of love ❤ to our haters out there. ❤❤❤

❤❤❤

Actually a good post. The reality is IT users don't give a shit about incels and are well aware of the fact that here, their advice perpetually falls on deaf ears. They can keep making fun of this sub sure but those claiming to truly care then making generic 'why do you hate women?' or 'maybe it's you?' posts are insufferable.

I still think you incels and your constant bastardisations of red pill ideas and findings are retarded but hey, your memes are kinda funny.

You may consider me normie honestly. But still i dont get why you allow people here make fun of you.

That's the one thing I actually respect this sub for, because they don't live in an echo-chamber like the old r/incels, the_donald, latestagecapitalism, two_x_chromosome, whateverbullshit.

Incels tell me I should go fuck myself because I'm a normie feminist white-knight loser cuck, I tell them they should go fuck themselves because they're self-pity obsessed, blame/hate everyone else hypocrite type people.

There's a different between an echo chamber and bullying. The latter happens just as often as the former here.

Ok you white-knight cuck loser femoid normy.

Incels never bully people.

Are you some kind of moron? I never said that

Yet your community does every day in every thread. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Are you some kind of moron? lol.

Collective guilt much?

lol over what? hating on haters? Nah I'm good. That's like asking if I feel bad for hating on Nazi's or the KKK.

Godwin's law! now, can you argue that we're bad without invoking an arbitrary absolute evil?

lol holy shit, ok I get it now.

Yall are IT posters trying to get more hate for the incels. Making bait posts and shit, it's all so clear. Keep up the good work brother.

Seems like you can't then. What a shame.

You’re first posts here were literally just making fun of incels, why would you expect any common decency after that?

Please, this community exists because incels was banned and then it was bolstered when you're own little private community was banned.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see "femoids, roasties, chads, cucks" in ever single post on this subreddit, but keep ignoring the obvious incel.

But still i dont get why you allow people here make fun of you

Because the mods are too laid back here. Most incel regulars don't even like them. The old incels sub banned anyone making fun.

Makes the sub much better. /r/incels went to shit when they started banning more people, became just a meme sub. Genuinely the best days of /r/incels were back when it was so brigaded that every post was downvoted to shit.

beautiful

Literally St. Alia of the Knife. Good job on eviscerating them.

If you want to be respected, maybe you should clamp down on the dehumanization of women in this sub. I don't hate you, but there are all kinds of posts stereotyping women as shallow "Chad"-lovers and calling for women to lose some of their rights. Particularly damning is the fact that these posts actually get positive attention and upvotes.

Control your sub!

This subreddit does not condone blanket hatred of virgins or the romantically unsuccessful, only those who self-identify with the hate label of "incel".

That's what IT is about.

Of course Incels constantly read it as "Oh, you're just making fun of me cuz I'm a virgin."... no, we make fun of you cuz you blame everyone else for your virginity and constantly make hate posts against women and everyone else who isn't an "incel".

They even hate on other involuntarily celibates because they don't follow the "incel" way of self-pity, hating women, normies, chads, genes, society, etc etc etc.

Of course Incels constantly read it as "Oh, you're just making fun of me cuz I'm a virgin."...

No, that's just false. They routinely bully and mock people for being virgins. And if you hate us, why shouldn't we hate you back?

cuz you blame everyone else for your virginity

Incels blame genetics more than anything else.

lol nah you blame everything. "The government should give us girlfriends" "women should sleep with incels as community service" "women just sleep with chad and not us".

Genetics are just another thing to blame it on when you've already gone through the rest of the list.

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"Oh, you're just making fun of me cuz I'm a virgin."... no, we make fun of you cuz you blame everyone else for your virginity and constantly make hate posts against women and everyone else who isn't an "incel".

Then explain why people from IT, and you specifically, shit on people who don't do the things you supposedly give them shit for.

Associate with a hate group and pretty soon people will start to think you're one of them. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Plus, for us, Incel has nothing to do with being a virgin or not my dude. MGTOW? Incels. Had sex before but you're a serious blackpiller? Incel.

You kinda proved my point there.

Yeah like how liberals shit on conservatives and vice versa, how racists shit on blacks, incels shit on women. Welcome to society my dude, catch up.

Sorry my dude, but you want to defend a group of people who believe the government should give them women to sleep with, that femoids should be sex slaves, people who hero worship Elliot Rodger... then you're just as shitty as they are.

If you don't want to be associated with that then stop defending the hate group.

Sorry my dude, but you want to defend a group of people who believe the government should give them women to sleep with, that femoids should be sex slaves, people who hero worship Elliot Rodger... then you're just as shitty as they are.

You can't seriously be this dense. There have been instances where you, and folks from IT, have shat on perfectly reasonable people here who don't do the things you give incels shit for. I'm not defending hateful jackasses, you're twisting the point.

If you don't want to be associated with that then stop defending the hate group.

When the fuck have I defended hate? I specifically said that you shit on users who don't do that shit as well as shitting on hateful morons. One is okay, I don't give a shit. The other is a cunt move. Figure out which is which, shouldn't be that hard.

The willful ignorance is delicious as always.

Figure out which is which.

I have, 80%+ of this sub is of the "hating women" type, I'm down with those odds.

You could go to incelswithouthate, which we leave alone. But instead you choose to lower yourself into the hate filled muck.

Personally I'm not digging through everyones comment history to find the less than 20% who don't shit on everyone and everything.

But then again, you pull this shit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Braincels/comments/7z92rm/it_falls_for_baitagain/

https://www.reddit.com/r/IncelTears/comments/7zebm6/well_looks_like_weve_veen_duped/duneaw4/

Nothing about my experience was dishonest. https://www.reddit.com/r/Braincels/comments/7yiqvw/i_am_done/

I have got nothing but backlash from community members from the sub since I announced my leaving even derogatory remarks from certain users. In regards to the posting seen in the thread it's not mine. I haven't been back on the subreddit since I left.

And shit on other involuntarily celibate people for not taking the blackpill, even to attempt to pretend that you were the dude who made that post to discredit him. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Nice condescention there.

Never pretended to be that dude, the entire post screams bait.

Incelswithouthate is dead, and more often than not people get the same platitudes there. Funnily enough, the users that I'm talking about are over there as well, but again, the sub is dead because no one wants to talk to depressed people, they want to gawk at bullshit.

So you're lazy and presumptuous. Alright.

Never pretended to be that dude, the entire post screams bait and that's that.

Oh shit, so it's ok for you to assume and make up fake bullshit and say a fellow incel is lying, further encouraging the abuse he's received from other incels, but it's not ok for someone else to assume shit.

Fucking huge lol dawg, you're a real piece of shit.

fellow incel

Read the flair :)

it's not okay for someone else to assume shit

Ever heard of “cya virgins“ greentext? That's what that post boiled down to. He specified that it wasn't bait after the fact.

you're a real piece of shit

Right back at'cha :D

Read the flair :)

This subreddit does not condone blanket hatred of virgins or the romantically unsuccessful, only those who self-identify with the hate label of "incel".

You're still an incel.

Ever heard of “cya virgins“ greentext? That's what that post boiled down to. He specified that it wasn't bait after the fact.

So it is ok for you to assume shit, just no one else? LOL. Incel hypocrisy at it's finest.

Right back at'cha :D

I know I'm a piece of shit, keep pretending you're not wallowing down here with me.

lol.

You're still an incel

Keep telling yourself that :D

I assumed shit? I recognized a type of post akin to something from 4chan, from a user that had never posted around these parts to my knowledge. If that doesn't scream bait (without the user specifying otherwise, which he hadn't at the time), I don't know what to tell you.

You do know incel isn't a self prescribed label right?

This subreddit does not condone blanket hatred of virgins or the romantically unsuccessful, only those who self-identify with the hate label of "incel".

Sure it is.

Just because the mods of this subreddit are morons who also don't understand that it's not self prescribed doesn't mean you're right lol. (they aren't apart of this community, I might add, since this is a splinter of the real r/incels made by IT posters who want to insult us some more)

Incel just means involuntarily celibate. Are you celibate but have done nothing wrong in your pursuit not to be? Well look at that, youre an incel. That guy you talked to is not involuntarily celibate, he's a good normie who has probably had meaningful relationships and so on, therefore he is not an incel.

Learn English

Incel just means involuntarily celibate.

Nah dawg, it used to mean that until yall turned it into a hate group. There's quite a few "involuntarily celibate" people who would rather not be associated with incels. There's also quite a few people (like MGTOW) who are incels despite having had sex.

At some point shit takes on a meaning of it's own. Learn English.

"incel" means involuntary celibate, being alone for a long time may cause some to become angry, but being incel has nothing to do with violence, go back to inceltears dawg.

Welcome to r/Braincels! If you want a fun, energizing, and thought-provoking atmosphere for incel culture, you've come to the right place

lol It's a culture, your own subreddit says so.

If the writing on the wall says "you're a dick" does that make you one?

Nah dawg, it used to mean that until yall turned it into a hate group.

Naw, still means that. Sorry that we're not some organized group lol we just talk on the same subreddit

There's quite a few "involuntarily celibate" people who would rather not be associated with incels.

there are plenty of Muslims that don't wanna be associated with radical Muslims too lol still Muslims tho

There's also quite a few people (like MGTOW) who are incels despite having had sex.

well I mean, it depends on how often you're having sex. Have sex once and never again for the rest of your life through no fault of your own? Still incel. Because now you are celibate, involuntarily.

At some point shit takes on a meaning of it's own.

Yeah, it means involuntarily celibate

Learn English. It happens all the time.

I know, that's why incel now means involuntarily celibate

Still incel. Because now you are celibate, involuntarily.

I mean, anyone in the world can pay, so I guess you aren't involuntary are you? lol.

Learn english.

I mean, anyone in the world can pay, so I guess you aren't involuntary are you? lol.

I swear to god you trolls are retarded

Your choice if you wanna be a part of a hate group ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Yeah, good thing I chose not to be

And if the users here hate women so what? There is no such thing as "freedom from being hated". Just accept the fact that people in life are going to hate you even when you did nothing wrong.

There is no such thing as "freedom from being hated"

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Inceltears believes that anyone who disagrees with them is a hate group, including foreveralones and other "pathetic" virgins.

This subreddit does not condone blanket hatred of virgins or the romantically unsuccessful, only those who self-identify with the hate label of "incel".

That's like saying no one ever discriminates against ethnic minorities in the United States because it's illegal.

Don't bother dude, this ones just a shitty troll.

Keep on my brother.

Work the shaft :)

Speaking for myself, I’ve never shit on someone just for being a virgin or just for being a “sub-8.” The people who use logical fallacies and blanket statements who clearly have a worldview that they want to believe are the ones I talk to.

Lol how are you normal? You as a normal should not even be aware of any if these terminologies. You need pussy in your life like we do tbh

Lol how are you normal? You as a normal should not even be aware of any if these terminologies.

I was told that if I want to interact with incels then I should learn your lingo, so I did!

I'm pretty proud that I now speak Incel.

Remember when /r/foreveralone was the most hated community before /r/incels. We were told the same exact shit even without the hate posts towards women.

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Of course Incels constantly read it as "Oh, you're just making fun of me cuz I'm a virgin."

And yet people also shat on ForeverAlone before the Incels sub was made. Really makes you think

Lol and when the fuck did i say we wanted to be respected, especially by people (and femoids) i have no respect for? How do you people get so confused?

Control your sub

By banning femoids and normans? No point in my opinion, you're everywhere anyway.

All Women are useless cumdumpsters and should be raped.

I hope you get raped in the ass by horde of cave men until your insides prolapse and then get spat on while getting cock jammed down your troat so deep you choke in your own vomit and cock until your eyes roll back in your head and die.

Not so nice when someone says that to you huh?

Dude. Duuuudeeee. Did you learn nothing when you went to high school? Or you just were one of the tag-along bullies who contributed nothing original? The stuff you wrote hurts noone and is so tryhard and edgy that it just makes everyone laugh.

If you really want to hurt someone, just exaggerate the truth or something that might be true. Judging by his username, just go with the 'doubt you would even have the equipment or strength to do anything like that' or the classical 'yep, that's the only way TCG players could ever get a woman'.

Yeah it really hurt me in my feel feels,women are useless whites who should be enslaved,acidfaced and raped.

What about the woman who has never had sex yet?

What the 8year olds?

For the sake of argument, sure. Even 8 year olds?

You are the problem.

No foids and Cucks are. All girls like being raped anyway so who Cares?

you're being downvoted but this is actually fairly correct. women LOVE 50 shades of gray. They watch hardcore porn, most women have rape fantasies.

they WANT to be dominated

There's a tremendous fucking difference between BDSM and actual rape, and even then, BDSM people are a small portion of all people.

no it isn't, bdsm is womens favorite porn. 50 shades of gray is basically a guy turning a chick into his sex slave. Girls admit it also, they have rape fantasies.

the when they get raped women love attention so they did the rape they want and then they get attention. women are evil horrid creatures

Source?

https://mic.com/articles/122962/pornhub-study-reveals-women-want-hardcore-porn#.mwO3xLbzA heres one for them loving hardcore porn

http://metro.co.uk/2017/11/29/why-do-half-of-women-have-fantasies-about-being-raped-7099630/ up to 50% of women(probably more that just don't admit it) have rape fantasies.

also do some more research for yourself, the general of women want to be dominated hard.

Who is the general of women?

majority

According to Psychology Today, only 1.3% of women report having done BDSM in the past year, while 64.6% reported fantasies of it. That second number is surprisingly high, but it's a far cry from "all." Rape is more brutal than people-- even fantasizers-- imagine it to be.

1.3%, that's bullshit. you know damn well more then 1.3% have done it

Look man, if you have statistics on the subject, feel free. I'm not taking your word over an actual scientific study.

i don't need a study to know more then 1% of girls do bdsm. how many girlfriends have you had?

You can only make a determination about a population under certain conditions. Most notably, your sample needs to be randomly-selected. If you manage your love life by auto-dialing landlines, and the first woman you call accepts without fail, then congrats, you've got an unbiased sample.

Otherwise, there's no reason to believe that the women you've dated are representative of all women. Random selection must be present!

wrong

What a persuasive counterargument. /s

Then stay away from 4chan and 8chan, fam. Some of their trolling is so elaborately crude you'll shit your pants in anger if you're that sensitive about this stuff.

Dehumanization of women? Do you realize that society in general doesn't even treat the average man as a human being? I'm not an Incel but even I can see that the only value I have as a man is what I can provide to society. When are we men going to be treated as human beings for once?

I don't want to get into it about how society treats men; I don't necessarily disagree with you. My comment pertains specifically to the way this subreddit specifically speaks about women.

Ah, because it concerns a topic you're not ready to discuss, right? Yet you came here so self-righteously.

No, because it's completely irrelevant to my actual criticism. Even if 99% of humanity treated all men like animals all the time, that wouldn't justify nor negate this tiny sub doing the same to women.

Oh my God.

Look, do I need to show you the kind of misogynistic shit people say and support on this subject? I understand if you just haven't seen enough evidence, but if you choose to ignore evidence, there's nothing I can say to you.

Numales are garbage

Maybe this is because you know that you can't really help anyone. Somewhere deep inside you know you would only let down that hopeful almost-there-but-struggling soul who just wants a friend. You'd get their hopes up and then what? They'd start boring you to death, you'd run out of things to say to them, you really really really wouldn't want to have to deal with listening to the crap they eagerly overshare, and eventually you'll just ghost them and make them rope or something. So it's easier to just focus on us, the unobtainable, and comfort yourself that we are to blame for why your help isn't helpful.

im a normie but I kinda agree with this paragraph, some people just abandon and screw you over suddenly one day, they start being friendly at all and at the next moment they don't want to talk to you again :( This problem kinda extends beyond inceldom to be honest

luckily, i have a few friends that genuinely stick by me and do not suddenly ghost me out of nowhere

Well look where this pickiness got you. Writing "7 steps to self improvement", "sense of humor - fake it till you make it" and "how personality helped me win my battle with inceldom" rants on your subreddit knowing they are only read by other unsuccessful life gurus.

Depression is one hell of a drug. I don't know how i can help you guys because i have never been in your shoes before. The thing is that inceldom is a mindset, the thing i found out about mindsets like this is that it takes time to change, i have been in that state once and constanly refused advice till one day i suddenly wanted to chane. I will try to provide advice but i will not force the person in taking my advice if he doesnt want to nor will I blame him for it.

im a normie but I kinda agree with this paragraph, some people just abandon and screw you over suddenly one day, they start being friendly at all and at the next moment they don't want to talk to you again :(

Sometimes this is warranted because the person you're ghosting is a controlling narcissist and you have to realize that unless you ditch that person once and for all, you're going to off yourself.

Sometimes people ghost when they don't want to ghost because of crippling anxiety, or other reasons potentially even out of their control.

There's lots of different reasons for ghosting, some good, some bad, some bizarre, some uncontrollable.

It hurts to get ghosted and sometimes it hurts to ghost. It's just another one of the many shitty things that people do to each other all the fucking time.

Yeah.

I don’t owe anybody shit. I fight for bulled socially awkward males.

They can give advice as much as they want, the thing they aren't entitled to is actually being listened to. There's a difference there.

They're not giving you advice, they're making fun of you.

We know, IT posters are only here to make fun of us, we've always known that 😉

I have to say that you didn’t hit all of the spots very well. IT users despise incels because of how they act and the things they say (all women are sluts, women owe me sex, etc). I confess that I do use IT (initially I was just looking for cringe material). But then I came here to see how things really were. This isn’t an advice sub, and I could care less if my advice is rejected. But from time to time I find an incel who is willing to talk, or someone who would like to get helped. Such things. At least to me, that’s how it is.

That's the facade. They will pull posts they think sound radical and sarcastically comment a little, or put a little display of fear and concern. Then they'll have long elaborate topic where they bitch about how fed up they are with us not taking their advice, encouraging each other to still post advice there for a chance one of us does see it, psychoanalyze about what's wrong with us that we refuse their advice... that's what really bothers them. The rest is just there for decorative purposes, to give them a chance to vent a bit.

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I'm pretty sure they hate you because many of your are gross, women haters, and low-key pedophiles

Weak sauce bait, try harder.

lel

cuts like a knife love it

We don't owe you anything. Doesn't mean we're still not allowed to try and help.

help

LOL

"You suck and are a piece of shit despite me knowing nothing about you!" Are you trying to tell me that those types of messages aren't helpful?

I would say the fact that you’re here and engage in these threads with all seriousness tells us everything we need to know.

Never stop, Alia.

So stuck in your toxic echo chamber that you don't even see there is a world out there where people do all kinds of things that don't revolve around giving or taking advice.

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂omg you wrote a fucking multiple paragraph essay trying to shit on IT and ended up just describing yourself.

I understand that our rejection hurts, but we don't owe you anything.

Buddy you think your "rejection" is why we come here? Either your the dumbest man alive or this is a troll.

because all they really want is a little attention.

Uhuh. Keep projecting mate.

Only those who have never been normanized by anyone before, else it's not really challenging.

You seem to think none of us have lives outside of your ridicule, which would depress me almost as much as knowing you people exist. While i can't say anything for other users as far as I've seen none of you seen to do much outside of this sub either.

everything you say is just shit and your comprehension skills are lacking?

Oh rly please go on.

lack the natural gift of possessing any kind of understanding of anything.

Oh rly? Again, please go on

Aww, someone's upset?

Its okay honey, when you turn off your phone, the bad people go away 😚

Its hilarious that you think anything you do is actually upsetting. Most of the things you do are, well hilarious

Thats why you just typed an essay in response to the OP right? Because you're not upset?

Oh honey, its okay, really, you're allowed to be angry 😘

An essay is what op wrote, i have a half a paragraph worth of sentences at most, maybe 2/3 if you count the laughing emotes. And yes, please continue your attempts at patronizing me with the pitiful and endearing treatment. Its totally starting to get to me.

You wouldn't have replied or mentioned it if it didn't, sweetheart 😚😇

I don't see this gping snywhere other than a back and forth over who's being more annoying. So here, you annoyed me. Not actually but hopefully it will calm your ego long enough for you to address any actual points i made. Unless you don't have anything else of actual material to say, cause in that case don't bother

lmao what points have you made?

You forgot the emoji 😘😘😘🤗🤗🤗😙😙😙😚😚😚🤣🤣🤣😎😎😎😴😴😴😒😒😒😷😷😷😹😹😹😻😻😻 here are some good ones just to give you some inspiration. Feel free to use any of them though.

goteem lol

I mean I never rejected their advice I went by everything they told me to do

Guess What

Ofcourse nothing helped not one bit absolutely nothing They just hate us for existing...for being too "beta" like we're pests that are somehow annoying you(I mean this is OUR SUB so how are we bothering you)

I drop one comment no matter what it is no matter who it agrees with whether the chads or the incels the chads will always shit on you

What pisses me off is that they dole out terrible advice to young guys that will surely fuck them over.

Those kiddos will be right back here when they're done. Bluepilled advice is trash. Fairy tale thinking.

Those were all wymyn who let shit slide because they most likely couldn't find anyone better. IT recommends discloses mental illnesses, just lol, total chance killer. Wymyn want a strong, stoic man, duh.

IT recommends disclosing mental illnesses

I'd disagree with my fellow IT normies, disclosing mental illness isn't to be taken lightly and shouldn't be done as early on as they suggest. As long as one is working on oneself which is leading to improvements in their mental, physical and emotional wellbeing, why disclose something that could accidentally hinder progress in whatever relationship is being pursued.

Like what?

Admitting to being a virgin, disclosing mental illnesses, showing emotion and vulnerability, and just poor sexual strategy in general.

how the FUCK will incelcucks ever RECOVER?

St. Alia at it again. Thank you for some quality content on this place for once.

Truthpill

LoL

Inceltears on suicide watch.

We don't get upset because you reject us. And most inceltears members don't hate incels. We think of most of you the same way people think of flat earthers. We think your ideology is ridiculous and know it's wrong. Imagine a flat earther writing about how everyone hates them because they don't listen to people's advice. That's how ridiculous your post sounds.

And I don't feel like all incels reject everything we've said. I know I've seen a lot of incels soften their stances on certain things when people debate with them. So even your idea that we think all of you reject everything we say is wrong.

And most inceltears members don't hate incels

LOL

We think your ideology is ridiculous and know it's wrong.

What ideology?

Are you so deluded that you consider your views to be the one true viewpoint in the world? There is no such thing as a correct viewpoint, all of your views would be considered ideology.

Did not answer my question. Also, you're not fryxtz. Get lost, idiot.

This is the worst incel post I've ever read. How pitiful.

The amount of projection in this thread is seriously mind boggling. I told myself I would visit and not comment anything but holy fuck y’all are just delusional.

Nobody on inceltears is butthurt that you don’t take any advice, it is just genuinely entertaining watching the absolute craziness, the mental gymnastics that some of y’all can go through to avoid taking any blame for their own problems. Rather than consider that you have problems that need addressing, you think it’s far more likely that WE are the ones projecting our insecurities.

The irony is just a little bit too much for me.

Y'all

still hating on the "Y'all" after all this time ?

I had nothing else to say to the retard

Y'all is a proper contraction retard.

What does that have to do with anything cunt?

You’re the one that brought it up, seemingly as a way to try and make me seem unintelligent, or incoherent.

The only comeback you could muster against my post was an attack on my southern accent/vocabulary. But now that you realize that you’re wrong, you just lash out and call him a cunt, and act like you didn’t bring it up.

Once again, observing Y’ALL is just incredibly entertaining.

Samething "y'all" has to do with anything faggot

YEEEEEEEHAWWWWW!

🤧

you think it’s far more likely that WE are the ones projecting our insecurities.

You are projecting your insecurities. It's laughable how you think otherwise. The only irony here is dramatic irony; you idiots are unaware of your true motives, but they're clear to us.

No u

I understand that our rejection hurts, but we don’t owe you anything.

The irony. You’ll chastise IT for this mindset but not delete your users’ own posts thinking they’re owed sex.

You people are so dumb it's unbelievable.

As an IT poster, I find this hilarious. Thought it was irony until I came here.

Too long didn't read

Yeah, people are trying to give you advice, to be a normal, (not in the way you use it, as if it’s derogatory,) functioning member of society that’s able to actually interact with people and form meaningful relationships. But you would rather wallow in your misery while lamenting about how hard everything is, yet refusing any and all attempts to help. No one feels entitled to your response or praise. They’re actually trying to help and you’re insulting them.

Lol at your assumption that you or they are in any position to be talking and "helping" me. You don't even know us as individuals. I don't aspire to be like you so take your ego trip to people who'd actually validate you for attention

You're not entitled to women they don't owe you validation

I'm a 3/4 of the way through my masters in clinical social work so I can get paid for this actually.

If you don't want any advice, then stop complaining. Problem solved.

Stop coming to our turf then, if you don't want to see us complaining.

Sorry we want to help people finding happiness.

Do you now? All I see if you getting your kicks out of this.

Yeah, you're right!

Here's the epitome of an IncelTears user: two-faced and retarded (or thinks everyone else is retarded).

Look at how this idiot shifted from "tee hee let's make everyone happy" in one reply to "lol i'm a sadist bully" in the next one. And he's either too retarded to avoid detection or thinks we're all too stupid to notice.

Glad I could help you reinforce your beliefs. See, I helped you after all! I'm just a bit hurt you called me retarded. You're a bully! It's over.

I'm not the one who made your subreddit my dude, I didn't decide to call you all incels, you did. You wanted coherency with your ideology, and now you're mad that we accept you as a group (albeit a hate group).

Never pretended to be that dude, the entire post screams bait and that's that.

Oh shit, so it's ok for you to assume and make up fake bullshit and say a fellow incel is lying, further encouraging the abuse he's received from other incels, but it's not ok for someone else to assume shit.

Fucking huge lol dawg, you're a real piece of shit.

Godwin's law! now, can you argue that we're bad without invoking an arbitrary absolute evil?

Step up your trolling game, currently you're just making an ass out of yourself. Honestly kind of precious to watch.

Welcome to r/Braincels! If you want a fun, energizing, and thought-provoking atmosphere for incel culture, you've come to the right place

lol It's a culture, your own subreddit says so.

Stop coming to our turf then, if you don't want to see us complaining.

All I meant was that if it was a problem you wanted to solve, you’d do it.

Man I should've known. I'll let all those starving kids in africa that their problem of malnutrition is solved by wanting it solved. Ill also let those with uncurable diseases know that they just aren't trying enough. Victim of homophobia? You just didn't want the problem solved enough same with minorities and cops. If they didn't want to get shot when doing nothing wrong then they should've just wanted to not get shot more. Good advice real good.

I waw just making fun of your phrase "if you wanted your problem solved you would have done it by now" as if all of lifes problems could be solved that way. I wasn't comparing us to them.

First note. This sub is about virgins (Incels- Involuntary Celibates). In of itself, that's a good thing, a group meant for people with a similar issue talking about it and hopefully escaping that problem.

The issue here is that most of them hate women because they are virgins, believing they OWE them sex. This is an extension of r/incels and incels.me, both of which supported rape, slavery, sexual harassment, etc etc. There was even talk of how the government should allow organ donors to have sex with a female body for up to three days after death.

Also, r/peoplefuckingdying user?

There it is. Was expecting that.