I'm a hard working blue collar man who is, nonetheless, all of the things in OP's pic. Your idea of reality is a fantasy realm where things that offend have no merit.
Well, the fiancé of my step-aunt is a pretty soft and intelligent guy. Like I'm talking about he seems gay level of that stuff, but he hooked her and my aunt can get guys lining up for blocks to take her out.
Actually as a bisexual guy with who's a pretty thorough mix of masculine and feminine and embraces it lots of girls love guys like me. Being an openly bi guy is a positive for 2/3 girls under 40 these days, at least that's my experience. Do you know how many girls fall in love with the gay friend? Well I like girls more than guys sooooo....
Even the feminists who say they like them truly despise them. Feminists support "feminine" men because they need to in order to stay ideologically consistent. However, they would certainly never sleep with them. They find them utterly repulsive.
Confidence and strength extend out from vulnerability. I guess what I should have said was honesty and the setting (of your own) boundaries (and the respect of others).
Since you express yourself honestly, and you're comfortable in your own skin, that's confidence.
Setting your own boundaries, deciding what you will and will not tolerate is strong behavior.
Again, all of this hinges on you being attractive enough physically in the first places (as we all know, incels do not qualify).
That's not true! Effeminate guys have tons of options! ...Just not female options, but like that's your fault for being a horrible straight man. Teehee
I don't get it. Why feminists are pushing this shit. Like why they care if men cry or not?. Why they are pushing femininity on men when we all know women only want 'manly' men, not the beta cucks
feminists defend whatever women are doing at the moment. So if women are rejecting men for not living up to male stereotypes (aka chad), they'll defend that.
BUT if a certain segment of feminism wants to say it's OK for men to not live up to chad, that can move society in a beneficial direction. Women's domesticated sexual tastes are heavily influenced by cultural norms.
Rejecting men for being too short or not masculine is totally anti-feminist.
Yea in technicality is is anti-feminist. But in reality, any feminist organization would not be happy about calling for women to change sexual selective behaviour so explicitly. Feminists get triggered when you make it sound like you are controlling their sexuality.
I don't engage with any feminist orgs, so I can't speak to their agenda. But I have seen these ideas promoted amongst many of my feminist friends. Particularly those who are also parents to young children.
My SO is extremely depressive and rarely shows when he's upset. It really sucks because it's hard to know what he's feeling. I always suggest if he needs to have a good cry, it's pretty therapeutic to just let it out. Bottling up emotions is never healthy, and it festers most of the time.
As for the image above, I always enjoy knowing guys who are more up front with their emotions and all that jazz. Having hobbies, creating, the sort. It gives a person more depth to talk to, hang out with, etc.
Feminists claim to be against toxic masculinity but they vote with their behavior. Women both enable and reward toxic masculinity with who they date and sleep with.
Feminists love to virtue single how much they hate toxic masculinity. Many often claim the feminist movement is as liberating for men as it is for women because it will break apart social roles for males. This is 100% false.
I don't call them out because I rarely even read that sub anymore. And I have made posts there that were very much siding with incels, even though I disagree with a lot of what is posted here. I agree with a lot of it too.
I don't mock incels. I agree with a lot of what is posted here, but there are things I don't agree with as well. A lot of the posts I have commented on on IT were posted by incels or other male virgins and I have only been supportive.
No!!!! This is wrong!! If women were actually capable of being attracted to the qualities in the above image I would be all for it! But they are not!
This is why incels as we know them only exist in the generations from the 80s/90s and onward. We were the generations taught all of the above! We were taught that women want sensitive men, emotional men, so forth and so on. And we thus behaved like that because we were also taught that typical macho attitudes contributed to heart disease and mental illness. We did everything they said, only for roasties to laugh at us. Fuck this image, it is deceptive mind control that will lead to a life of suffering.
No it is not! If it were capable, all of us sensitive guys born in the 90s would not be dealing with this. You're part of the problem, you live in a fantasy world in which the blackpill doesn't exist. Please enjoy taking the blue pill with your meal every morning
Plenty of sensitive guys get girls. Women are more and more ok with men being less stoic. I can't play sport, I've never won a fight, I cry at films, and just generally can't stomach anything macho - but I've never had much difficulty at all.
women would pick a cute sensitive boy anytime over a macho men , its all about face , dont think its because of your personality lmao you are ugly just like me
thank you for watching over us Handsome incel knight , tomorow is a new day for a new gf feels. i will take gard when you sleep, just now walking to home i had incel feels fuck
This is less about getting pussy and more about how to live with yourself, and the people around you... Part of the reason male suicide rates are so disproportionate is that these things even need to be said.
But hey if you've reduced chicks opinions down to will or won't they fuck you, then you've probably got quite a few things to work out.
This is the stupidities thing I've ver seen. Women are biologically predisposed to liking masculine males. They just want to turn more normies into soy boys so they can have an easier time knowing who to reject.
What makes you think that being sensitive and open about one's feelings is not a manly thing? Things like crying don't fall into labels like 'feminine' or 'masculine'. Crying is something which is just 'human'. The only point the cartoon is trying to make is that men should embrace their feminine side AND women should embrace their masculine side.
It's a nice sentiment, but it's important to keep in mind they're not saying this is what they're attracted to, they're basically just saying you shouldn't be mocked for it.
In theory yes, if we all became exactly alike women would have a more difficult time discriminating. However, that isn't going to happen because female sexual selection shapes male behavior. If men become more feminized, the reward for being masculine increases.
It turns out being chad-replica is kinda hard work for most people. If you can get a date just by being a regular beta, there's not much reason to try to become like chad just to get a date. Also once enough men are feminized, that sort of standard becomes ingrained in the culture, and women's sexuality is influenced by cultural norms.
there'd just be less people who find the need to become a chad-replica if they can get a partner just being a beta.
To us, we would be happy just getting a partner, but that isn't necessarily the case for most men. As soon as a man realizes he can get a better/more attractive partner by being more masculine, all bets are off. And of course, as soon as one guy does it, now this incentives other guys to do it so they don't get left behind. Eventually you just end up with what we have right now.
It's not about male hypergamy, it's about maximizing one's potential. Do you actually think that a guy who has the chance to vastly expand his number of potential partners wouldn't do it?
yes but the point that i'm getting at is that most women really don't want anything that artist showed in the image and most would even be turned off by a guy like that.
Depends, though. In relationships a lot of women want a sensitive guy, they just also might enjoy them to be dominant in the bedroom. They don't need to conflict.
Just read what women say so their self, they admit to licking bad boys, wanting to be choked during sex, 50 shades of grey is the best selling female book ever etc
If it was so true then women would end up primarily with bad boys. They don't. Most men end up married and most men are not bad boys.
What you get up to in the bedroom has little to do with how you are in life generally. I do kink stuff, I enjoy BDSM, and I being dominant in the bedroom... but that isn't what I'm like otherwise. They aren't linked.
There's not enough hot bad boys to go around so women just have sex with them and stay single for a while until they land one or they date a good guy for resources and emotional support until they meet a bad boy
They really don't. Even young women (who can be more prone to chasing bad boys) can find the drama off putting. The fantasy doesn't match up to the enjoyment in real life, and it isn't uncommon for non-adolescent women to have learned that for themselves.
Like, rape fantasies are incredibly prevalent. It's one of the most readily found kinks. Does that suggest women secretly want to rape/be raped, or that men would secretly like to rape/be raped? No. The reality is horrific and traumatising, but it's still a hot fantasy.
They really do and no young girls generally go for nice sweet guys, once they take a bunch of dick though they start going for bad boys. Then when women want to settle down after taking miles of cock then they go back to good boys in hopes of marrying them for security. Rape fantasies are mostly found in women and not men btw so don't try and make it seem like it's both sexes. The fact that you can call it a hot fantasy at the same time you call it horrific says a lot about your damaged psyche and mental issues you have. Seek help.
They really do and no young girls generally go for nice sweet guys, once they take a bunch of dick though they start going for bad boys. Then when women want to settle down after taking miles of cock then they go back to good boys in hopes of marrying them for security.
What makes you think this? I've literally never seen it or heard of it round here.
Rape fantasies are mostly found in women and not men btw so don't try and make it seem like it's both sexes.
Both do have them. I said nothing of prevalence.
The fact that you can call it a hot fantasy at the same time you call it horrific says a lot about your damaged psyche and mental issues you have. Seek help.
Genuinely, are you sure you don't need the help? Fantasising rape doesn't suggest that you'd actually enjoy rape any more than enjoying video game violence means you'd enjoy murder. These kinds of seemingly conflicting feelings are really quite common in regular people.
It's well known fact and about rape fantasies you made it seem like it was a gender neutral fantasy. It's not. Women overwhelmingly are the ones with rape fantasies. Not men.
"Fantasising rape doesn't suggest that you'd... "
The modern state of feminism. Justifying rape fantasies everyone. Once you reach this point, I have no respect for you because you have no self respect for yourself.
I didn't make it seem like anything, you're just reading what you want to hear. Do you have any counter to the contrast that I provided there between fantasy violence and sexual proclivities? Cause there's really no moral difference.
Well will you admit that rape fantasy is largely a female fetish then?
Do you have any counter to the contrast that I provided there between fantasy violence and sexual proclivities? Cause there's really no moral difference.
You brought this up as a nonpoint to argue, it didn't deserve a response. You're arguing emotionally and trying to force different perameters on me. Not falling for it
Yeah I'd agree most people aren't turned on by the tears of a loved one. Just because someone isn't turned on in a moment of emotional distress doesn't mean they're not attracted to their partner.
Why don't you normies see that if these behaviours were positively reinforced and selected for by women, many more man would be like this.
Guys try to emulate and act like chad cuz he succeeds. They don't know why, so they try to emulate his actions to achieve his success with women, because they want it too.
If women thirsted for sensitive, empathic, kind men, the same way they thirsted for conquerors and dominant man, then feminists would have acheived this dream a long time ago.
But no, they say it's ok to be this, and that they want this, but who are they with after leaving the club on a Saturday night? Not the empathetic nice guy.
Exactly. The way you start this is by putting your money where your mouth is and start dating these guys end mass. Choose the kind, shy guy at the party instead Chad. Take a chance with the quiet artist and see what his PERSONALITY is really about. Start showing CHADS that these type of men are the ones you like, not assholes who don't care about their feelings. Chads will either act accordingly or not get with women.
This is how you slowly feminise society. It'll take time, but sexual selection is a powerful attitude adjuster. Why the fuck do you think all those birds of paradise dance to fuck female birds. Chadbird had happy feet and all the other birds followed suit 🐦 💃🕺
Your first paragraph is a fucking cringefest, girls dont want nice guys, they want GOOD guys, there is a difference. Maybe they have picked the quiet shy guy once and he turned out to be a total psycho who was possesive as fuck?
Before you say something along the lines of defending your sentiment, remember, not all guys, not all women are the same, that type of thinking will keep a person from being an angry and bitter elderly person on their death bed alone
Why is it so important to be "thirsted" by women? Why not live life as emotional or effeminate as you want and not worry about how it affects how much people want to have sex with you?
I still grasp to hope (barely), and cope my way from completely utterly giving up and rotting. Many incels do however. Those that have given up the facade turn into ER and make the crazy bitter posts you see.
That's what feminism originally meant: just gender equality but gender equality was too much of a buzz words and people would brush it away, bit then came a wave of SJW big red anita sarkezian hugh mungus wot crazy people and ruined the Feminism tag too
What is the point of this? I can't possibly imagine that a boy would not like being gentle towards a cute animal, being affectionate about their loved ones. You're turning an issue that we solved a hundred years ago into an issue again.
No one is saying they aren't. What society says, and society is right to say this, is that we don't respect you or value you if you are not and are these things.
i get what you're saying and sorry for the late response, but i don't deserve respect if i'm not pretty? affectionate? sensitive? artsy? the only one that matters in that list genuinely is "caring" i guess really.
i mean.. this is like a big point of feminism. let people be people without mockery and not force boys to never show these kinds of emotions. i really like this illustration.
This is what true feminism is supposed to support. I am a feminist and this is my goal for my son...and he is kind, sweet, sensitive, and different. And the best goddamn kid I ever could hope for.
We arent all man-haters.
Thanks for the advice, but I'll pass. My kid speaks 3 languages, fences, is an avid fan of researching and forming his own opinions, gun-trained, and a beautiful, empathic, kind child.
He's free to be who and whatever he wants to be, as long as he harms no one, and I'll support his every decision.
I think maybe you needed that type of unconditional acceptance as a kid.
None of these things are that impressive. If he speaks three languages, that just means he grew up in a bilingual household and is taking a language at school. Fencing, "researching opinions" (lol), and getting gun trained and being nice aren't accomplishments.
I think maybe you needed that type of unconditional acceptance as a kid.
Witness how they spiral into defense mode as soon as you question their parenting style. Good parents don't have to insult random people on the internet who offer them advice. Good parents don't have to narcissistically pretend their kids are super geniuses for being average.
Kids can learn multiple languages on their own. I know a person who as a teenager taught himself french, german and russian. French was taught at school but russian and german were learnt from textbooks and youtube videos, and he had such fluency that he's doing a modern foreign languages degree at Cambridge university.
Let kids follow their passions without judgement and, with both hard work and a bit of luck, they can live very fufilled lives.
I sometimes have to take a step back and really contemplate how real people come to these conclusions. Like where were you raised? What have your encounters with people been like? How can you be so blind to all the good in others?
You're blind to biology. You're blind to the fact that almost every culture all throughout history gave their adolescent boys a rite-of-passage to turn them from boys to men. You're blind to the behavioural traits that women respond to. You're blind to what the real reasons are behind male depression and anxiety.
When it comes to masculinity, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
I mean I’d consider myself a fairly metrosexual guy in that I don’t fit the “alpha” stereotype and I’m in a happy, committed long term relationship. No I don’t have male depression and anxiety, so perhaps that is the root cause of these opinions. It’s not society, it’s the way those conditions make you view society.
Damn dude... you definitely didn't get hugged enough as a child. And for that reason, I feel sorry for you. The world is not all treachery and hurt. I hope you find peace someday.
I was very caring and very kind to my friends and school mates, I would always say please and thank you , go out of my way to be an absolute gentleman.
I spent most of my time being bullied during high school, but I avoided conflict (despite being physically larger and stronger than those bullying me) , what did it take for that bullying to stop?
It wasn't kindness or empathy or feelings or emotions, I had to beat the shit out of those people
Then it stopped, completely ABSOLUTELY stopped. The day I beat those guys up girls actually paid attention to me, people started to show me respect.
As a man these emotions/kindness and feelings will only get you hurt and abused by stronger men.
You must teach your son how to defend himself, how to stand up for himself like, how to get what he wants, how not to be a push over.
Other wise you're setting him up for pain like my parents did.
Being caring and affectionate and being masculine are not mutually exclusive. You don't have to give up your man card the second you exhibit some feminine traits.
In general, I'm an overly friendly, caring, amd generous person, but that doesn't mean I'm a pushover. I'll be a hardass if I need to be. It's all about balance.
Masculine? That's exactly how he will end up if the Lord has anything to do with it. Have you ever been introduced to that good old red pill book called The Bible?
Ah! Yes. I was a student at an Accelerated Christian Education brainwashing center. I've actually had to memorize whole books in the KJV.
I was a sunday school teacher in a Methodist church, a missionary in a Baptist church, and a disciple in training.
Funny thing though... Every single church I've been a part of has this nasty habit of letting deacons and clergymen molest/rape my friends and then shaming the literal children out of the congregation....
If that's "masculinity" then fuck that shit. I'm more than happy to have my child NOT experience the things i did. So....pass. Hard pass.
Okay. Boys with natural testosterone won't be happy and won't get laid by being sensitive, caring etc. Women want men not woman, that is simply the truth. This propaganda is hurting little boys because they are told not to not throw snowballs, to not fight, and because of this we have created a beta male generation that can't get laid (so that tyrone can better integrate). Also I'm not talking about hollywood masculanity (self-destructive) which is bad.
Have you ever actually been with a woman? If you haven't, I can see where you get your scapegoat ideologies from (calling it propaganda, blaming an all encompassing "we" for making a "beta male generation", blaming what I assume is black people, because of the name, lmao). If you have, you've obviously only been with shitty, insensitive people.
People are sensitive. Some people put on a thick skin facade, but it's just that, a facade. On the inside, everyone has feelings, and this is completely normal. This whole "gender role" thing is fucking ridiculous, too. Like, "This propaganda is hurting little boys because they are told not to not throw snowballs, to not fight ..." Girls like throwing snowballs, girls like fighting, girls are people that have their own internal monologue and feelings just like you.
If you want to be Macho Man that swoops ladies off their feet (but not "self-destructively" Macho, of course, lol) then do it. Not everyone will fall for that, because everyone's different, but I'm sure someone will. People and their personalities vary greatly. I, personally, don't talk a lot, am shy, I guess you could say "sensitive," and I've fucked plenty of times. Of course, I've never fucked someone that would want a stereotypical manly man, because they obviously wanted a more "sensitive" person; I click better with people that are attracted to my personality. Crazy shit, right?
You seem to express your inner feelings by being a whiny bitch on the internet. You seem starved of attention, because otherwise you wouldn't respond back with "im waiting." like who gives a shit, man? I completely forgot about you and your comment, and moved on with my life like a normal person. But I guess I'll wrap this up, because you won't listen to any of it anyway. No one on r/noBrainCells does.
You need to find someone attracted to your personality, and if your personality is ugly, you need to be a better version of yourself, or risk letting that rubber in your wallet go bad.
Look man I know that you've been fed this feminist propaganda bullshit all your life but there are differences between genders, both physical and mental.
Like, "This propaganda is hurting little boys because they are told not to not throw snowballs, to not fight ..." Girls like throwing snowballs, girls like fighting, girls are people that have their own internal monologue and feelings just like you.
NO! Girls do not like to fight because there upper body strength is weak compared to men. Girls do not like throwing snowballs as they're more neurotic and agreeable. We as men like to throw snowballs because we have natural strength and testosterone which make us more aggressive.
If you want to be Macho Man that swoops ladies off their feet
Look woman in general are more attracted to dominant men, I know it's hard to accept that but yes, even your unicorn bookworm jessica will fuck chad lol. High Testosterone males had strength to survive conflicts, women in the evolutionary context were more attracted to them because of that reason.
You seem to express your inner feelings by being a whiny bitch on the internet. You seem starved of attention, because otherwise you wouldn't respond back with "im waiting."
It's called critical thinking fag, I waited for an argument because maybe I was wrong. Plus you got 11 updoots by making a statement without arguments which made me angry.
I had to write "I'm waiting" 2 times just to get a proper argument from you, because you were projecting on me saying stuff like: > You're probably going through my history, too. It's pointless explaining anything to you guys, it's like talking to a brick wall.
You need to find someone attracted to your personality, and if your personality is ugly, you need to be a better version of yourself, or risk letting that rubber in your wallet go bad.
Women on average are more attracted to masculine personalities (low neuroticism, extrovert).
If you raised your testosterone you would be less shy and more confident, being shy isn't you, it's just social anxiety, avoiding conflict and avoiding eye contact. It will lead you nowhere, it's proven that confidence and being a good speaker brings more success in life in all aspects. You're probably depressed too because you have no goals or meaning in life.
Good luck.
I can see you're actually responding which is honestly a nice change here. Let me start off by saying that there are differences between the two genders. That is undeniable, but it is also misleading and not the whole truth. What's different among individual men? Well, most prominent of all is their appearance, but once you talk to them for a little while you'll figure out how their personality is. Same thing with women.
NO! Girls do not like to fight because there upper body strength is weak compared to men. Girls do not like throwing snowballs as they're more neurotic and agreeable. We as men like to throw snowballs because we have natural strength and testosterone which make us more aggressive.
It's called critical thinking fag, I waited for an argument because maybe I was wrong. Plus you got 11 updoots by making a statement without arguments which made me angry.
You call the first quote an argument? That's literally just saying something with no proof. "all men are disgusting pigs" is an argument according to you. I can't even respond to it because of how wrong it is, and how there is no way to prove you wrong besides you going out and meeting literally any woman.
Look woman in general are more attracted to dominant men, I know it's hard to accept that but yes, even your unicorn bookworm [jessica will fuck chad lol]*. High Testosterone males had strength to survive conflicts, women in the evolutionary context were more attracted to them because of that reason.
So your whole argument is an evolutionary one? Because that's ridiculous. I am attracted to a gargantuan ass. That isn't evolutionary advantageous in any way. Some guys like a girl that is skin and bones. That, evolutionary, would be a huge red flag (she must be starving/unable to take care of herself/is sickly). How would you explain a fetish evolutionary? Some people want to fuck balloons, doesn't make it evolutionary advantageous.
Maybe read the whole comment before you reply.
Girls are people. Let that sink in.
They have thoughts and emotions just like you, (though likely not in the same way, because of different brain chemistries). One girl is gonna want to fuck the literal hulk and no less because of the intensity of that fetish, and one girl will only want a subordinate male sex slave. There's a wide range of people, man, and not all of them are the same. To deny that is, quite frankly, retarded.
You're probably depressed too because you have no goals or meaning in life. Good luck.
I have my bouts of depression like anyone, doesn't make me any less attractive to "jessica" as you put it, lol. It takes me a while to warm up to someone but once I do I'm as confident as ever, mate.
if you understood anything about psychology studies you would know those studies are weak as hell.
one is based on data from a website where people specifically rate how hot somebody is. i dont think your normal person who isnt obsessed with generic body standards is visitng that website.
another one was based partly on information from participants with gym memberships at the school, sounds like people who would highly prioritize physical health and appearance.
as a psych grad, psych studies are bullshit. everybody is different. averages are not applicable in real life.
Even if the evidence is weak, it still proves my theory right. My claim was women don't like weak and submissive men. This theory can be observed in day to day life and the data I provided is crystal clear. I did the part of my job, if you do not give me any studies proving the contrary then my theory is correct.
lmao wow no that is not how proving a theory works even a little bit. show me loads of studies done multiple times to reproduce results and then you have some basis to say the results /suggest/ your theory holds water. thats how studies work my friend.
Woman here. Much more interested in fucking the guy who registers that my personal preferences are based more on my individual thoughts and experiences than viewed solely via evolutionary biology. I may have less upper body strength, but that won't stop me from whipping a block of ice at someone who deserves it.
To deny that I have the ability to enjoy or want to engage in stereotypically male activities suggests that you also think that men should not be allowed to persue “female” activites, which makes me think that you are living a life unnaturally restricted by your own prejudices and limitations.
The man I love is unafraid to express the parts of his personality which would be considered weak in a more rigid definition of masculinity, and I see that as a marker of confidence and strength that is much more important than adherence to arbitrary societal expectation.
It all comes down to genetics. I am a distance runner(not that far, 3 and 5ks) and I occasionally get my blood work done. My testosterone, and IGF-1 levels are quite a bit higher than average for my demographic. But i was a late bloomer and I still look somewhat young.
I am sensitive, pretty agreeable and my main focus outside of school is piano. I openly talk to girls about my bisexuality, which I assume is not very masculine. I have ZERO trouble attracting women.
Not like its really impressive but I have 300+ tinder matches in the last two months. To give you an idea.
whoa look at this biologist/sociologist/psychologist here! Every culture in the world doesn't have hypermasculinized men like the US does (even in the US this is a new occurrence). It's not natural, it's just something you've been raised to thnk is normal
The only reason why men feel they can't be those things, is because they feel that being any of those things will net them with nothing but rejection, belittlement and isolation. The main deterrent to men being able to freely be those things are women unilaterally shaming and desexualizing them for it. The hazing from men might receive from other men is nothing compared to the direct detriment men will face with women for these traits.
And this post gets it wrong. Because it's two faced. The entire feminist movement is paved with women who preach about equality in public but laugh at, take advantage and "friendzone" and cuck men like that in private. Don't try to teach men that they can be those things, teach women that those traits in men are actually attractive and desirable traits to seek, find or develop in a male partner.
Confidence and strength extend out from vulnerability. I guess what I should have said was honesty and the setting (of your own) boundaries (and the respect of others).
Since you express yourself honestly, and you're comfortable in your own skin, that's confidence.
Setting your own boundaries, deciding what you will and will not tolerate is strong behavior.
Again, all of this hinges on you being attractive enough physically in the first places (as we all know, incels do not qualify).
I still grasp to hope (barely), and cope my way from completely utterly giving up and rotting. Many incels do however. Those that have given up the facade turn into ER and make the crazy bitter posts you see.
They really do and no young girls generally go for nice sweet guys, once they take a bunch of dick though they start going for bad boys. Then when women want to settle down after taking miles of cock then they go back to good boys in hopes of marrying them for security.
What makes you think this? I've literally never seen it or heard of it round here.
Rape fantasies are mostly found in women and not men btw so don't try and make it seem like it's both sexes.
Both do have them. I said nothing of prevalence.
The fact that you can call it a hot fantasy at the same time you call it horrific says a lot about your damaged psyche and mental issues you have. Seek help.
Genuinely, are you sure you don't need the help? Fantasising rape doesn't suggest that you'd actually enjoy rape any more than enjoying video game violence means you'd enjoy murder. These kinds of seemingly conflicting feelings are really quite common in regular people.
I didn't make it seem like anything, you're just reading what you want to hear. Do you have any counter to the contrast that I provided there between fantasy violence and sexual proclivities? Cause there's really no moral difference.
You said your new thing was trying to engage with people who disagree with you rather than throwing insults. I think that’s a really respectable goal. Have you heard of the podcast “conversations with people who hate me” by Dylan Marron? He tries to do the same thing. People will leave him hateful or disagreeable comments online and he will call them on skype and have a conversation with them. I definitely recommend it especially if you are trying to do the same thing.
I love you,youre a great human being.
Im a girl and a feminist,more and more,true feminists(not misandrist in disguise)are talking about this.
Society will grow!!
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1 nackruff 2018-02-21
this is probably the most sane thing from hereive seen all week
1 rubbish_everywhere 2018-02-21
And I find it hypocritical that they’re complaining about incels crying online when they want men to be less macho
1 nackruff 2018-02-21
point out exactly how I'm doing that friend
1 rubbish_everywhere 2018-02-21
Not you, the feminists
1 nackruff 2018-02-21
oh my apologies I read your thing wrong even though I read it like 3 times over
1 rubbish_everywhere 2018-02-21
My bad. I’m illiterate
1 nackruff 2018-02-21
no it's my bad for reading wrong
1 NineMinded 2018-02-21
No it's my bad for but gently correcting you.
1 fatchancebud 2018-02-21
EXACTLY
1 Sniveling_Cur 2018-02-21
So the "most sane thing you've seen here all week" is a bunch of fucking wishful thinking platitude bullshit?
It's like Alia's "This is why you can't get laid" thread all over again.
1 zanhoshi 2018-02-21
I'm a hard working blue collar man who is, nonetheless, all of the things in OP's pic. Your idea of reality is a fantasy realm where things that offend have no merit.
2 Sniveling_Cur 2018-02-21
male*
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3 Sniveling_Cur 2018-02-21
"Grow up", said the guy who is everything in OP.
Wow. Second day of trying to break the irony record?
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1 Sniveling_Cur 2018-02-21
Yeah, that's what all manchildren tell themselves to feel better.
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1 Sniveling_Cur 2018-02-21
"You're a hypocrite" is an ad hominem logical fallacy.
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1 Sniveling_Cur 2018-02-21
WELCOME TO MY BLOCK LIST, DERP
1 nackruff 2018-02-21
Well, the fiancé of my step-aunt is a pretty soft and intelligent guy. Like I'm talking about he seems gay level of that stuff, but he hooked her and my aunt can get guys lining up for blocks to take her out.
1 Yemanthing 2018-02-21
Okay. So 1% of us may get lucky. The others are fucked. Still down to genetics.
1 Salvador66 2018-02-21
I wish. Feminine men are not truly liked in society.
1 exhibitionistcouplez 2018-02-21
Actually as a bisexual guy with who's a pretty thorough mix of masculine and feminine and embraces it lots of girls love guys like me. Being an openly bi guy is a positive for 2/3 girls under 40 these days, at least that's my experience. Do you know how many girls fall in love with the gay friend? Well I like girls more than guys sooooo....
1 BF8211 2018-02-21
Congratulations, you and your family should be very proud.
1 BlackDranzerAttack 2018-02-21
lol
1 exhibitionistcouplez 2018-02-21
Oh we are
1 TheVertex_ 2018-02-21
Even the feminists who say they like them truly despise them. Feminists support "feminine" men because they need to in order to stay ideologically consistent. However, they would certainly never sleep with them. They find them utterly repulsive.
1 warmestblack 2018-02-21
Lol some of these so-called feminist say this but only date and get with misogynist badboys.
1 genetic_scrap 2018-02-21
Women like vulnerability. As usual, depends on who's expressing it.
When Chad is vulnerable, he's sensitive, caring and sweet.
When St. Blackops2cel is vulnerable, he's a wimp.
1 kaoikenkid 2018-02-21
They also like confidence and strength. You have to balance both, not completely resign to one side.
1 genetic_scrap 2018-02-21
Confidence and strength extend out from vulnerability. I guess what I should have said was honesty and the setting (of your own) boundaries (and the respect of others).
Since you express yourself honestly, and you're comfortable in your own skin, that's confidence.
Setting your own boundaries, deciding what you will and will not tolerate is strong behavior.
Again, all of this hinges on you being attractive enough physically in the first places (as we all know, incels do not qualify).
1 justforlulzandkeks 2018-02-21
Lol no, they despise vulnerability in men
0 genetic_scrap 2018-02-21
If you're attractive enough, they love it. If you aren't, not so much.
1 PM_ME_DEATH_THREATS3 2018-02-21
Cope. No one likes effeminate men other than liberal landwhales who want betabuxes.
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-02-21
That's not true! Effeminate guys have tons of options! ...Just not female options, but like that's your fault for being a horrible straight man. Teehee
1 TheMubarak1 2018-02-21
I don't get it. Why feminists are pushing this shit. Like why they care if men cry or not?. Why they are pushing femininity on men when we all know women only want 'manly' men, not the beta cucks
1 fatchancebud 2018-02-21
feminists defend whatever women are doing at the moment. So if women are rejecting men for not living up to male stereotypes (aka chad), they'll defend that.
BUT if a certain segment of feminism wants to say it's OK for men to not live up to chad, that can move society in a beneficial direction. Women's domesticated sexual tastes are heavily influenced by cultural norms.
1 PM_ME_PYGMY_HIPPOS 2018-02-21
Yes! A lot of feminists feel that the current expectations society has of men are ultimately harmful to them and want to see cultural norms change.
1 fatchancebud 2018-02-21
Yea in technicality is is anti-feminist. But in reality, any feminist organization would not be happy about calling for women to change sexual selective behaviour so explicitly. Feminists get triggered when you make it sound like you are controlling their sexuality.
1 PM_ME_PYGMY_HIPPOS 2018-02-21
I don't engage with any feminist orgs, so I can't speak to their agenda. But I have seen these ideas promoted amongst many of my feminist friends. Particularly those who are also parents to young children.
1 Fakename11235 2018-02-21
"we all know women only want 'manly' men, not the beta cucks"
Thats completely untrue
1 produboi 2018-02-21
they want the beta when they become unattractive and want to settle down, till then they like sociopathic alphas
1 Dagos 2018-02-21
I'll give my viewpoint, if you'll have it! :)
My SO is extremely depressive and rarely shows when he's upset. It really sucks because it's hard to know what he's feeling. I always suggest if he needs to have a good cry, it's pretty therapeutic to just let it out. Bottling up emotions is never healthy, and it festers most of the time.
As for the image above, I always enjoy knowing guys who are more up front with their emotions and all that jazz. Having hobbies, creating, the sort. It gives a person more depth to talk to, hang out with, etc.
1 pretty_boy_game 2018-02-21
Lol @ fagcels
1 half_acre_lot 2018-02-21
Fakecels
1 pretty_boy_game 2018-02-21
What are u saying fag
1 half_acre_lot 2018-02-21
How can a gay be incel? Any self labeled gaycel is a fakecel
1 pretty_boy_game 2018-02-21
Ah yes. Yeah that's true
1 5f2BaldIndianJanitor 2018-02-21
It’s funny how feminists call for boys to be like this but they are attracted to the opposite. A classic example is the whore Emma Watson
1 Dingus_Incel 2018-02-21
100% accurate
Feminists claim to be against toxic masculinity but they vote with their behavior. Women both enable and reward toxic masculinity with who they date and sleep with.
1 onlyonebread 2018-02-21
Toxic masculinity is tying the amount of sex you get to your worth as a person
Who cares if Emma Watson is only with large masculine men? She'll still respect you as a person, just not sleep with you. Is that not good enough?
1 Dingus_Incel 2018-02-21
If she wouldn't date a soft effeminate man, then thats hypocritical and disrespectful.
1 Sheairah 2018-02-21
What if she's not opposed to masculinity in general but to the idea that men have to be unfeeling rocks to be respected?
1 jacketboundjester 2018-02-21
I could not give less of a fuck that Emma Watson respected me.
1 ItchyTriggaFingaNigg 2018-02-21
Mate, there's a difference between aggression and confidence. You don't have to be a dick to be fun and you don't have to be a pussy to have feelings.
I think this confusion comes from the fact that it can be hard to strike the right balance.
1 chadeet 2018-02-21
feminists say this and then fuck 6'3" "fuckboy" chad though.
then when they went to "settle down" they marry a guy like in the image who raises his wife's son and in a few years he ends up on r/deadbedrooms
1 fatchancebud 2018-02-21
Yea but if you feminize enough of the male population, they have to start changing their ways.
1 Dingus_Incel 2018-02-21
Feminists love to virtue single how much they hate toxic masculinity. Many often claim the feminist movement is as liberating for men as it is for women because it will break apart social roles for males. This is 100% false.
1 Zangano1 2018-02-21
Faggots cant be incel
1 PM_ME_PYGMY_HIPPOS 2018-02-21
Am feminist. I agree wholeheartedly.
1 LdarBoyos 2018-02-21
You post in inceltears just fuck off.
1 PM_ME_PYGMY_HIPPOS 2018-02-21
A lot of incels also post in inceltears. What is your point?
1 LdarBoyos 2018-02-21
You're scum that bullies incels
1 PM_ME_PYGMY_HIPPOS 2018-02-21
Show me a post where I have bullied an incel. I'll wait.
1 LdarBoyos 2018-02-21
You post in inceltears. It's a hate subreddit for bullying mentally ill incels
1 PM_ME_PYGMY_HIPPOS 2018-02-21
As I said, a lot of incels post there too.
1 LdarBoyos 2018-02-21
Stop bullying.
1 PM_ME_PYGMY_HIPPOS 2018-02-21
Show me a post where I bullied an incel.
1 LdarBoyos 2018-02-21
Please stop bullying it's not a nice thing to do. Especially those that have mental illness :/
1 mookmill 2018-02-21
You should find a reason to kill yourself. I’m too tired to find one for your sake.
1 LdarBoyos 2018-02-21
That's not very nice :/
1 PM_ME_PYGMY_HIPPOS 2018-02-21
Show me where I have bullied anyone.
1 LdarBoyos 2018-02-21
Stop bullying.
1 produboi 2018-02-21
you would break up if your partner showed emotion
1 PM_ME_PYGMY_HIPPOS 2018-02-21
That's ridiculous.
1 fishet 2018-02-21
Dude its a satire sub, thats like saying /r/iamverysmart is bullying smart people
1 LdarBoyos 2018-02-21
Please stop bullying the mentally ill :(
-1 fishet 2018-02-21
So you admit incels are mentally ill?
2 LdarBoyos 2018-02-21
Yes I am mentally ill and no that's not funny.
-1 fishet 2018-02-21
I didn't say it was, I was asking for clarification
2 LdarBoyos 2018-02-21
Good, Because us men with mental illness already face enough stigma.
1 fishet 2018-02-21
Ik, it really is terrible
1 LdarBoyos 2018-02-21
I'm glad you understand it's not okay to bully those with mental illness.
1 geneticSubhumanTrash 2018-02-21
You post there unironically.
1 PM_ME_PYGMY_HIPPOS 2018-02-21
I haven't bullied anyone.
1 BF8211 2018-02-21
I'm a member of the American Nazi party and the KKK, I'm not racist though.
1 LdarBoyos 2018-02-21
Downvoting normies btfo
1 CptErection23 2018-02-21
But have you bullied anyone?
1 breakfastATepiphanie 2018-02-21
Normies won't touch this comment
1 VonMagnar 2018-02-21
You participate in a sub that does.
And since you're not calling any of your fellow users on their shit, you can't really complain.
1 PM_ME_PYGMY_HIPPOS 2018-02-21
I rarely comment there at all.
1 VonMagnar 2018-02-21
You're still an IT user. Point stands regardless.
1 PM_ME_PYGMY_HIPPOS 2018-02-21
I don't call them out because I rarely even read that sub anymore. And I have made posts there that were very much siding with incels, even though I disagree with a lot of what is posted here. I agree with a lot of it too.
1 BlackDranzerAttack 2018-02-21
lol fuck off roastie, go and bully someone else.
We've legit had enough of roasties like you know bullying incels.
1 bopoll 2018-02-21
You literally cant agree when you post to a subreddit designed to mock men for their feelings
1 PM_ME_PYGMY_HIPPOS 2018-02-21
I don't mock incels. I agree with a lot of what is posted here, but there are things I don't agree with as well. A lot of the posts I have commented on on IT were posted by incels or other male virgins and I have only been supportive.
1 homendailha 2018-02-21
It's fine for boys.
What about men?
1 DabberCoin 2018-02-21
No!!!! This is wrong!! If women were actually capable of being attracted to the qualities in the above image I would be all for it! But they are not!
This is why incels as we know them only exist in the generations from the 80s/90s and onward. We were the generations taught all of the above! We were taught that women want sensitive men, emotional men, so forth and so on. And we thus behaved like that because we were also taught that typical macho attitudes contributed to heart disease and mental illness. We did everything they said, only for roasties to laugh at us. Fuck this image, it is deceptive mind control that will lead to a life of suffering.
1 fatchancebud 2018-02-21
Their domesticated sexuality is capable of it. You need a very fairly low % of chads and low immigration for it to work on a mass basis though.
1 DabberCoin 2018-02-21
No it is not! If it were capable, all of us sensitive guys born in the 90s would not be dealing with this. You're part of the problem, you live in a fantasy world in which the blackpill doesn't exist. Please enjoy taking the blue pill with your meal every morning
1 Shazoa 2018-02-21
Plenty of sensitive guys get girls. Women are more and more ok with men being less stoic. I can't play sport, I've never won a fight, I cry at films, and just generally can't stomach anything macho - but I've never had much difficulty at all.
1 foreignincel3 2018-02-21
women would pick a cute sensitive boy anytime over a macho men , its all about face , dont think its because of your personality lmao you are ugly just like me
1 DabberCoin 2018-02-21
perhaps but someone who is ugly and Macho will fare better than someone with an attractive face who is a pussy
1 foreignincel3 2018-02-21
lmaooooooo lmaoooo you are totally coping hahahahhahahahhahaha , no omg how can you be so dense . this is not how the blackpill works
1 DabberCoin 2018-02-21
you are delusional if you think women are attracted to feminized men
1 foreignincel3 2018-02-21
cute fiminized
1 breakfastATepiphanie 2018-02-21
How's your day going cutie
1 foreignincel3 2018-02-21
its alright so far still sleepy , what about you handsome
2 breakfastATepiphanie 2018-02-21
It's been a long incel day and I'm going to sleep now. Goodnight sweet knight, thank you for watching over us.
1 foreignincel3 2018-02-21
thank you for watching over us Handsome incel knight , tomorow is a new day for a new gf feels. i will take gard when you sleep, just now walking to home i had incel feels fuck
2 breakfastATepiphanie 2018-02-21
I'm sorry to hear about those feels. I took my dog for a walk at the park tonight and couples were everywhere, I got incel feels too.
Thank you for guarding our incel brothers. I've been protecting the fragile incels over on /r/foreveralone.
1 foreignincel3 2018-02-21
i have been banned from that sub because i would give advice to lonely femoids about how to improve their personality
2 breakfastATepiphanie 2018-02-21
Also I really must get to sleep, goodnight gorgeous :)
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-02-21
The look on him in the "affectionate" thingy looks like it's just oozing affection and not at all a "what am I doing with my life" look...
1 TruthInBlack 2018-02-21
It's too bad they don't mean any of it.
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-21
I'm turned off by the style of the artwork. Don't know why, I find it somewhat demeaning.
1 produboi 2018-02-21
its disgusting that women are turned off by men (humans) being emotional and kind
1 fatchancebud 2018-02-21
feminists don't aren't kind to women's primal sexuality either
they'd never cop to it though
1 Board_Gaming 2018-02-21
All women aren't turned off by that.
1 produboi 2018-02-21
98% are though
1 Board_Gaming 2018-02-21
I'm 78% sure your statistic is made up.
1 produboi 2018-02-21
cope
1 genetic_scrap 2018-02-21
It needs to be said again, if it's Chad the proceeding characteristics are attractive.
If it's an incel, the proceeding characteristics are unattractive.
1 247heart 2018-02-21
I AM ALL THESE THINGS! WHERE IS MY FREE SUCC
HAHAHAHAHA XDD
Chad: shut the the fuck up
Me: Remember, boys can st-tu-stutter too!
Chad: yeah ahah XD
1 LORD-THUNDERCUNT 2018-02-21
Why of course! Being a beta male pussy faggot will get you all the pussy!
Seriously though, why do women try to pass this as truth when they want alpha males? (Yet hate them at the same time).
1 Dingus_Incel 2018-02-21
To weed out the weaklings. Chad never takes this stuff seriously and will never sacrifice his masculinity.
1 ItchyTriggaFingaNigg 2018-02-21
This is less about getting pussy and more about how to live with yourself, and the people around you... Part of the reason male suicide rates are so disproportionate is that these things even need to be said.
But hey if you've reduced chicks opinions down to will or won't they fuck you, then you've probably got quite a few things to work out.
1 ChubbyFailure 2018-02-21
I certainly don't identify as a feminist, however, I've always liked guys that are femme.
Though my preference is usually the hairy bear type of chubby guy, I won't discount a sweet "feminine" guy. Both have their merits.
1 LdarBoyos 2018-02-21
Shut up fatty
0 Sheairah 2018-02-21
What a joy you are.
2 LdarBoyos 2018-02-21
Thanks, Y-You too.
1 247heart 2018-02-21
if you're GOOD LOOKING you BE ANYTHING
1 Dingus_Incel 2018-02-21
This is the stupidities thing I've ver seen. Women are biologically predisposed to liking masculine males. They just want to turn more normies into soy boys so they can have an easier time knowing who to reject.
1 Idekaname 2018-02-21
What makes you think that being sensitive and open about one's feelings is not a manly thing? Things like crying don't fall into labels like 'feminine' or 'masculine'. Crying is something which is just 'human'. The only point the cartoon is trying to make is that men should embrace their feminine side AND women should embrace their masculine side.
1 Gargantuar01 2018-02-21
Crying is a sign of emotional unstability, this cartoon is telling men to be more feminine, which will dry out women's pussies.
1 Idekaname 2018-02-21
which will dry out out women's pussies.
... That made no sense at all :/
Crying is a sign of emotional unstability.
Not really, It's just a way of letting out your emotions form time to time. If done excessively, then you could say this is true.
1 Gargantuar01 2018-02-21
Woman aren't attracted to feminized boys.
1 FA_Anarchist 2018-02-21
It's a nice sentiment, but it's important to keep in mind they're not saying this is what they're attracted to, they're basically just saying you shouldn't be mocked for it.
1 fatchancebud 2018-02-21
i know, but if enough men are feminized women basically have no choice
1 FA_Anarchist 2018-02-21
In theory yes, if we all became exactly alike women would have a more difficult time discriminating. However, that isn't going to happen because female sexual selection shapes male behavior. If men become more feminized, the reward for being masculine increases.
1 fatchancebud 2018-02-21
It turns out being chad-replica is kinda hard work for most people. If you can get a date just by being a regular beta, there's not much reason to try to become like chad just to get a date. Also once enough men are feminized, that sort of standard becomes ingrained in the culture, and women's sexuality is influenced by cultural norms.
1 FA_Anarchist 2018-02-21
To us, we would be happy just getting a partner, but that isn't necessarily the case for most men. As soon as a man realizes he can get a better/more attractive partner by being more masculine, all bets are off. And of course, as soon as one guy does it, now this incentives other guys to do it so they don't get left behind. Eventually you just end up with what we have right now.
1 fatchancebud 2018-02-21
(most) Men aren't hypergamous with women like that. Also yea, most men WOULD be happy just to have partner, 63% of millenial men currently don't.
Look at Sweden, are the dudes trying to outbro each other for hotter Nordic girls? No, they are all beta-pussies with hot ass girlfriends.
1 FA_Anarchist 2018-02-21
It's not about male hypergamy, it's about maximizing one's potential. Do you actually think that a guy who has the chance to vastly expand his number of potential partners wouldn't do it?
1 foreignincel3 2018-02-21
main reason why i was a feminist in the past before starting to become mentally ill
1 derpyderpderp42069 2018-02-21
5 seconds later the cartoonist that made that is choking on Artsy Chads cock begging him to spit on her and smack her btw.
1 Shazoa 2018-02-21
That wouldn't be contradictory even if true.
1 derpyderpderp42069 2018-02-21
yes but the point that i'm getting at is that most women really don't want anything that artist showed in the image and most would even be turned off by a guy like that.
1 Shazoa 2018-02-21
Depends, though. In relationships a lot of women want a sensitive guy, they just also might enjoy them to be dominant in the bedroom. They don't need to conflict.
1 derpyderpderp42069 2018-02-21
No it doesn't depend when the majority of women will reject a sensitive guy as being too nice or a doormat or a pusover etc.
1 Shazoa 2018-02-21
They don't though. I mean, what makes you think they do? Most men aren't macho at all these days and most of us are doing fine.
1 derpyderpderp42069 2018-02-21
Just read what women say so their self, they admit to licking bad boys, wanting to be choked during sex, 50 shades of grey is the best selling female book ever etc
1 Shazoa 2018-02-21
If it was so true then women would end up primarily with bad boys. They don't. Most men end up married and most men are not bad boys.
What you get up to in the bedroom has little to do with how you are in life generally. I do kink stuff, I enjoy BDSM, and I being dominant in the bedroom... but that isn't what I'm like otherwise. They aren't linked.
1 derpyderpderp42069 2018-02-21
There's not enough hot bad boys to go around so women just have sex with them and stay single for a while until they land one or they date a good guy for resources and emotional support until they meet a bad boy
1 Shazoa 2018-02-21
They really don't. Even young women (who can be more prone to chasing bad boys) can find the drama off putting. The fantasy doesn't match up to the enjoyment in real life, and it isn't uncommon for non-adolescent women to have learned that for themselves.
Like, rape fantasies are incredibly prevalent. It's one of the most readily found kinks. Does that suggest women secretly want to rape/be raped, or that men would secretly like to rape/be raped? No. The reality is horrific and traumatising, but it's still a hot fantasy.
1 derpyderpderp42069 2018-02-21
They really do and no young girls generally go for nice sweet guys, once they take a bunch of dick though they start going for bad boys. Then when women want to settle down after taking miles of cock then they go back to good boys in hopes of marrying them for security. Rape fantasies are mostly found in women and not men btw so don't try and make it seem like it's both sexes. The fact that you can call it a hot fantasy at the same time you call it horrific says a lot about your damaged psyche and mental issues you have. Seek help.
1 Shazoa 2018-02-21
What makes you think this? I've literally never seen it or heard of it round here.
Both do have them. I said nothing of prevalence.
Genuinely, are you sure you don't need the help? Fantasising rape doesn't suggest that you'd actually enjoy rape any more than enjoying video game violence means you'd enjoy murder. These kinds of seemingly conflicting feelings are really quite common in regular people.
1 derpyderpderp42069 2018-02-21
It's well known fact and about rape fantasies you made it seem like it was a gender neutral fantasy. It's not. Women overwhelmingly are the ones with rape fantasies. Not men.
The modern state of feminism. Justifying rape fantasies everyone. Once you reach this point, I have no respect for you because you have no self respect for yourself.
1 Shazoa 2018-02-21
I didn't make it seem like anything, you're just reading what you want to hear. Do you have any counter to the contrast that I provided there between fantasy violence and sexual proclivities? Cause there's really no moral difference.
1 derpyderpderp42069 2018-02-21
Well will you admit that rape fantasy is largely a female fetish then?
You brought this up as a nonpoint to argue, it didn't deserve a response. You're arguing emotionally and trying to force different perameters on me. Not falling for it
1 BF8211 2018-02-21
Nothing turns a woman's pussy into the Atacama Desert faster than her husband/boyfriend crying lol
2 Sheairah 2018-02-21
Yeah I'd agree most people aren't turned on by the tears of a loved one. Just because someone isn't turned on in a moment of emotional distress doesn't mean they're not attracted to their partner.
1 fatchancebud 2018-02-21
le sigh
1 0fabliau 2018-02-21
You have a real problem if you’re turned on by your partner’s emotional distress.
1 Sniveling_Cur 2018-02-21
So you want more lies?
1 Justwannakms 2018-02-21
An incel probably made this comic to cope
1 fatchancebud 2018-02-21
I found it on an ancap page that was originally from a feminist page XD
1 CMXV 2018-02-21
Why don't you normies see that if these behaviours were positively reinforced and selected for by women, many more man would be like this.
Guys try to emulate and act like chad cuz he succeeds. They don't know why, so they try to emulate his actions to achieve his success with women, because they want it too.
If women thirsted for sensitive, empathic, kind men, the same way they thirsted for conquerors and dominant man, then feminists would have acheived this dream a long time ago.
But no, they say it's ok to be this, and that they want this, but who are they with after leaving the club on a Saturday night? Not the empathetic nice guy.
1 fatchancebud 2018-02-21
what this guy said
1 CMXV 2018-02-21
Exactly. The way you start this is by putting your money where your mouth is and start dating these guys end mass. Choose the kind, shy guy at the party instead Chad. Take a chance with the quiet artist and see what his PERSONALITY is really about. Start showing CHADS that these type of men are the ones you like, not assholes who don't care about their feelings. Chads will either act accordingly or not get with women.
This is how you slowly feminise society. It'll take time, but sexual selection is a powerful attitude adjuster. Why the fuck do you think all those birds of paradise dance to fuck female birds. Chadbird had happy feet and all the other birds followed suit 🐦 💃🕺
1 Zim91 2018-02-21
Your first paragraph is a fucking cringefest, girls dont want nice guys, they want GOOD guys, there is a difference. Maybe they have picked the quiet shy guy once and he turned out to be a total psycho who was possesive as fuck?
Before you say something along the lines of defending your sentiment, remember, not all guys, not all women are the same, that type of thinking will keep a person from being an angry and bitter elderly person on their death bed alone
1 CMXV 2018-02-21
Tbh I don't really disagree with anything you just said.
1 onlyonebread 2018-02-21
Why is it so important to be "thirsted" by women? Why not live life as emotional or effeminate as you want and not worry about how it affects how much people want to have sex with you?
1 CMXV 2018-02-21
Because when you strongly desire sex and relationships, you'll change how you act in order to better acheive your goals.
1 onlyonebread 2018-02-21
But if you're incel, then you're never going to get that no matter how hard you try. So why pull the facade? What's the point?
1 CMXV 2018-02-21
I still grasp to hope (barely), and cope my way from completely utterly giving up and rotting. Many incels do however. Those that have given up the facade turn into ER and make the crazy bitter posts you see.
1 JackPurrito 2018-02-21
Plenty do want empathetic and kind. They just also want him to be tall with all of the other stereotypical desirable traits.
1 CMXV 2018-02-21
True. Sensitive Chad wins aswell.
1 OnceUponAStargazer 2018-02-21
Idk man my boyfriend is all of these things. He's just not an ass and doesn't expect to get laid because of it.
1 sharkb8master 2018-02-21
Neither do most incels, what's your point?
1 CptErection23 2018-02-21
As a woman respector, I also encourage traditionally feminine behavior in men. Please upvote.
1 fatchancebud 2018-02-21
That wouldn't be respecting women until women change their sexual selection or stop selecting.
1 Tallguy_87 2018-02-21
Meanwhile on the next panel his girlfriend is getting hymen blasted by chad because showing emotion is weakness and for cuxxx
1 incelliarmus 2018-02-21
ROFL hymen blasted.....
1 a_n_d_r_e_w 2018-02-21
That's what feminism originally meant: just gender equality but gender equality was too much of a buzz words and people would brush it away, bit then came a wave of SJW big red anita sarkezian hugh mungus wot crazy people and ruined the Feminism tag too
1 ironicsoyboy 2018-02-21
Why do I smell soy?
1 Moist___ 2018-02-21
S O Y B O Y
1 jaghatarhonor 2018-02-21
More virtue signalling? More turning men into passive beta orbiters?
Yeah no thanks.
1 turtleflirtle 2018-02-21
As a feminist, I couldn’t agree more.
0 bopoll 2018-02-21
Doubtful
1 Dukeswog 2018-02-21
What is the point of this? I can't possibly imagine that a boy would not like being gentle towards a cute animal, being affectionate about their loved ones. You're turning an issue that we solved a hundred years ago into an issue again.
Everyone is different!
1 sharkb8master 2018-02-21
Except everyone is telling us otherwise.
1 CHAD_THUNDERCUCK 2018-02-21
if you want to end up a little beta soyboy while they cuck you go ahead and believe this
1 wh0mping 2018-02-21
This is fuckin bullshit, females aren't wired to find this stuff attractive
1 shockinghillaryquote 2018-02-21
They just won't get laid!
1 trevmon 2018-02-21
nice picture but wake me up when they follow it up with sex
1 Version_Two 2018-02-21
This entire comment section is full of insecurity
1 emperorhirohito 2018-02-21
No one is saying they aren't. What society says, and society is right to say this, is that we don't respect you or value you if you are not and are these things.
1 extraWill 2018-02-21
i get what you're saying and sorry for the late response, but i don't deserve respect if i'm not pretty? affectionate? sensitive? artsy? the only one that matters in that list genuinely is "caring" i guess really.
1 biodokai 2018-02-21
i mean.. this is like a big point of feminism. let people be people without mockery and not force boys to never show these kinds of emotions. i really like this illustration.
1 NeckbeardThingss 2018-02-21
I'd upvote the shit out of this if i could
1 DNthecorner 2018-02-21
This is what true feminism is supposed to support. I am a feminist and this is my goal for my son...and he is kind, sweet, sensitive, and different. And the best goddamn kid I ever could hope for. We arent all man-haters.
1 UndeadRhodesian 2018-02-21
Please don’t poison your kid with this filth. He’ll realize you fucked him up and resent you for it later on.
1 DNthecorner 2018-02-21
Thanks for the advice, but I'll pass. My kid speaks 3 languages, fences, is an avid fan of researching and forming his own opinions, gun-trained, and a beautiful, empathic, kind child.
He's free to be who and whatever he wants to be, as long as he harms no one, and I'll support his every decision.
I think maybe you needed that type of unconditional acceptance as a kid.
1 UndeadRhodesian 2018-02-21
None of these things are that impressive. If he speaks three languages, that just means he grew up in a bilingual household and is taking a language at school. Fencing, "researching opinions" (lol), and getting gun trained and being nice aren't accomplishments.
Witness how they spiral into defense mode as soon as you question their parenting style. Good parents don't have to insult random people on the internet who offer them advice. Good parents don't have to narcissistically pretend their kids are super geniuses for being average.
1 DNthecorner 2018-02-21
Whomp whoooomp whoooooomp...
This just in:
I DON'T GIVE A FUCK! 😁😁😁
Have a lovely day.
1 UndeadRhodesian 2018-02-21
Can you tell me if I was right about the language thing? That was a total guess and I kind of want to know if I was right
1 DNthecorner 2018-02-21
Nope.
1 EastData 2018-02-21
so you're saying he taught himself 3 languages
1 Roland_D_Of_Gilead 2018-02-21
Maybe 3 in school, or grew up in a trilingual house.
1 EastData 2018-02-21
she said he didn't learn in school and house is not tri/bilingual
1 TacoinaToaster 2018-02-21
Kids can learn multiple languages on their own. I know a person who as a teenager taught himself french, german and russian. French was taught at school but russian and german were learnt from textbooks and youtube videos, and he had such fluency that he's doing a modern foreign languages degree at Cambridge university.
Let kids follow their passions without judgement and, with both hard work and a bit of luck, they can live very fufilled lives.
1 goldenshadow 2018-02-21
What part of this is filth? I really want to know what your thought process is here.
1 gnair3 2018-02-21
Your kid will become a little blue pill beta male pussy who will be cheated on
1 frrunkis 2018-02-21
I completely agree. I'm also wondering how I, along with a few other people, stumbled across this month old thread in the same day.
This shit turns boys into pussies. It makes them go against their natural instincts, and makes them extend their adolescence into their adulthood.
Beta male bullshit.
1 DrWunderfizz 2018-02-21
I sometimes have to take a step back and really contemplate how real people come to these conclusions. Like where were you raised? What have your encounters with people been like? How can you be so blind to all the good in others?
1 frrunkis 2018-02-21
You're blind to biology. You're blind to the fact that almost every culture all throughout history gave their adolescent boys a rite-of-passage to turn them from boys to men. You're blind to the behavioural traits that women respond to. You're blind to what the real reasons are behind male depression and anxiety.
When it comes to masculinity, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
1 DrWunderfizz 2018-02-21
I mean I’d consider myself a fairly metrosexual guy in that I don’t fit the “alpha” stereotype and I’m in a happy, committed long term relationship. No I don’t have male depression and anxiety, so perhaps that is the root cause of these opinions. It’s not society, it’s the way those conditions make you view society.
1 frrunkis 2018-02-21
I could fuck your girl within two hours of meeting her
1 DrWunderfizz 2018-02-21
Whatever keeps your boat floatin’ on that sea of testosterone bud
1 DNthecorner 2018-02-21
Statistically speaking.... his boat fuel is gay porn.
1 Hillary_is_president 2018-02-21
Shut up! Traps aren't gay!
1 Lithobreaking 2018-02-21
No you couldn't and you know it.
1 DNthecorner 2018-02-21
Damn dude... you definitely didn't get hugged enough as a child. And for that reason, I feel sorry for you. The world is not all treachery and hurt. I hope you find peace someday.
1 eye_engineer 2018-02-21
You're destroying your son and preparing him for a world of pain
1 DNthecorner 2018-02-21
You're obviously the expert.
1 eye_engineer 2018-02-21
Yes I'm a man who was raised the same way.
I was very caring and very kind to my friends and school mates, I would always say please and thank you , go out of my way to be an absolute gentleman.
I spent most of my time being bullied during high school, but I avoided conflict (despite being physically larger and stronger than those bullying me) , what did it take for that bullying to stop?
It wasn't kindness or empathy or feelings or emotions, I had to beat the shit out of those people
Then it stopped, completely ABSOLUTELY stopped. The day I beat those guys up girls actually paid attention to me, people started to show me respect.
As a man these emotions/kindness and feelings will only get you hurt and abused by stronger men.
You must teach your son how to defend himself, how to stand up for himself like, how to get what he wants, how not to be a push over.
Other wise you're setting him up for pain like my parents did.
1 DNthecorner 2018-02-21
Who said I wasn't teaching my son to defend himself?
1 EastData 2018-02-21
you're teaching him to be a bitch, he'll resent you eventually
1 DNthecorner 2018-02-21
Awww. It's ok. I'm sure your momma loved you.
1 TheDogJones 2018-02-21
Being caring and affectionate and being masculine are not mutually exclusive. You don't have to give up your man card the second you exhibit some feminine traits.
In general, I'm an overly friendly, caring, amd generous person, but that doesn't mean I'm a pushover. I'll be a hardass if I need to be. It's all about balance.
1 EastData 2018-02-21
your son is going to end up on braincels in 20 years
1 berserkerwolf11 2018-02-21
He'll be a sissy
1 DNthecorner 2018-02-21
Mmk. You're obviously speaking from a point of personal experience, so I guess I'll take your opinion for what it is.
1 berserkerwolf11 2018-02-21
My cousin was like that dumb bitch. He got bullied im saying this for your son but noo im just a bigot
1 DNthecorner 2018-02-21
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1 TheSnowglobeFromHell 2018-02-21
You are raising to be a faggot or a failed man like the dudes in this sub. I hope his father is there when the damage you did needs to be undone.
1 DNthecorner 2018-02-21
Ew! Lord forbid he winds up like YOU!
1 TheSnowglobeFromHell 2018-02-21
Masculine? That's exactly how he will end up if the Lord has anything to do with it. Have you ever been introduced to that good old red pill book called The Bible?
1 DNthecorner 2018-02-21
Ah! Yes. I was a student at an Accelerated Christian Education brainwashing center. I've actually had to memorize whole books in the KJV. I was a sunday school teacher in a Methodist church, a missionary in a Baptist church, and a disciple in training.
Funny thing though... Every single church I've been a part of has this nasty habit of letting deacons and clergymen molest/rape my friends and then shaming the literal children out of the congregation....
If that's "masculinity" then fuck that shit. I'm more than happy to have my child NOT experience the things i did. So....pass. Hard pass.
1 rmkinnaird 2018-02-21
This is what feminism actually looks like when you get off the internet
1 DNthecorner 2018-02-21
And/or if you apply critical thinking & don't buy into hate-mongering hysteria.
1 Gabrys1896 2018-02-21
Mom Max. R. C. Maybe First my Legs
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Think Just oc
1 Gargantuar01 2018-02-21
Okay. Boys with natural testosterone won't be happy and won't get laid by being sensitive, caring etc. Women want men not woman, that is simply the truth. This propaganda is hurting little boys because they are told not to not throw snowballs, to not fight, and because of this we have created a beta male generation that can't get laid (so that tyrone can better integrate). Also I'm not talking about hollywood masculanity (self-destructive) which is bad.
1 Lithobreaking 2018-02-21
Lmao. You have no idea what you're talking about.
1 Gargantuar01 2018-02-21
enlighten me
1 Gargantuar01 2018-02-21
I'm still waiting
1 Lithobreaking 2018-02-21
You're probably going through my history, too. It's pointless explaining anything to you guys, it's like talking to a brick wall.
1 Gargantuar01 2018-02-21
fuck off, tell me where I'm wrong
1 Lithobreaking 2018-02-21
Have you ever actually been with a woman? If you haven't, I can see where you get your scapegoat ideologies from (calling it propaganda, blaming an all encompassing "we" for making a "beta male generation", blaming what I assume is black people, because of the name, lmao). If you have, you've obviously only been with shitty, insensitive people.
People are sensitive. Some people put on a thick skin facade, but it's just that, a facade. On the inside, everyone has feelings, and this is completely normal. This whole "gender role" thing is fucking ridiculous, too. Like, "This propaganda is hurting little boys because they are told not to not throw snowballs, to not fight ..." Girls like throwing snowballs, girls like fighting, girls are people that have their own internal monologue and feelings just like you.
If you want to be Macho Man that swoops ladies off their feet (but not "self-destructively" Macho, of course, lol) then do it. Not everyone will fall for that, because everyone's different, but I'm sure someone will. People and their personalities vary greatly. I, personally, don't talk a lot, am shy, I guess you could say "sensitive," and I've fucked plenty of times. Of course, I've never fucked someone that would want a stereotypical manly man, because they obviously wanted a more "sensitive" person; I click better with people that are attracted to my personality. Crazy shit, right?
You seem to express your inner feelings by being a whiny bitch on the internet. You seem starved of attention, because otherwise you wouldn't respond back with "im waiting." like who gives a shit, man? I completely forgot about you and your comment, and moved on with my life like a normal person. But I guess I'll wrap this up, because you won't listen to any of it anyway. No one on r/noBrainCells does.
You need to find someone attracted to your personality, and if your personality is ugly, you need to be a better version of yourself, or risk letting that rubber in your wallet go bad.
1 Gargantuar01 2018-02-21
Look man I know that you've been fed this feminist propaganda bullshit all your life but there are differences between genders, both physical and mental.
If you raised your testosterone you would be less shy and more confident, being shy isn't you, it's just social anxiety, avoiding conflict and avoiding eye contact. It will lead you nowhere, it's proven that confidence and being a good speaker brings more success in life in all aspects. You're probably depressed too because you have no goals or meaning in life. Good luck.
1 Lithobreaking 2018-02-21
I can see you're actually responding which is honestly a nice change here. Let me start off by saying that there are differences between the two genders. That is undeniable, but it is also misleading and not the whole truth. What's different among individual men? Well, most prominent of all is their appearance, but once you talk to them for a little while you'll figure out how their personality is. Same thing with women.
You call the first quote an argument? That's literally just saying something with no proof. "all men are disgusting pigs" is an argument according to you. I can't even respond to it because of how wrong it is, and how there is no way to prove you wrong besides you going out and meeting literally any woman.
So your whole argument is an evolutionary one? Because that's ridiculous. I am attracted to a gargantuan ass. That isn't evolutionary advantageous in any way. Some guys like a girl that is skin and bones. That, evolutionary, would be a huge red flag (she must be starving/unable to take care of herself/is sickly). How would you explain a fetish evolutionary? Some people want to fuck balloons, doesn't make it evolutionary advantageous.
Maybe read the whole comment before you reply.
Girls are people. Let that sink in.
They have thoughts and emotions just like you, (though likely not in the same way, because of different brain chemistries). One girl is gonna want to fuck the literal hulk and no less because of the intensity of that fetish, and one girl will only want a subordinate male sex slave. There's a wide range of people, man, and not all of them are the same. To deny that is, quite frankly, retarded.
I have my bouts of depression like anyone, doesn't make me any less attractive to "jessica" as you put it, lol. It takes me a while to warm up to someone but once I do I'm as confident as ever, mate.
1 let_that_sink_in 2018-02-21
The hell does he want now?
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1 Prophessur 2018-02-21
if you understood anything about psychology studies you would know those studies are weak as hell.
one is based on data from a website where people specifically rate how hot somebody is. i dont think your normal person who isnt obsessed with generic body standards is visitng that website.
another one was based partly on information from participants with gym memberships at the school, sounds like people who would highly prioritize physical health and appearance.
as a psych grad, psych studies are bullshit. everybody is different. averages are not applicable in real life.
1 Gargantuar01 2018-02-21
Even if the evidence is weak, it still proves my theory right. My claim was women don't like weak and submissive men. This theory can be observed in day to day life and the data I provided is crystal clear. I did the part of my job, if you do not give me any studies proving the contrary then my theory is correct.
1 Prophessur 2018-02-21
lmao wow no that is not how proving a theory works even a little bit. show me loads of studies done multiple times to reproduce results and then you have some basis to say the results /suggest/ your theory holds water. thats how studies work my friend.
1 Burnt_lasagne 2018-02-21
Woman here. Much more interested in fucking the guy who registers that my personal preferences are based more on my individual thoughts and experiences than viewed solely via evolutionary biology. I may have less upper body strength, but that won't stop me from whipping a block of ice at someone who deserves it. To deny that I have the ability to enjoy or want to engage in stereotypically male activities suggests that you also think that men should not be allowed to persue “female” activites, which makes me think that you are living a life unnaturally restricted by your own prejudices and limitations. The man I love is unafraid to express the parts of his personality which would be considered weak in a more rigid definition of masculinity, and I see that as a marker of confidence and strength that is much more important than adherence to arbitrary societal expectation.
1 homelesschineseman 2018-02-21
It all comes down to genetics. I am a distance runner(not that far, 3 and 5ks) and I occasionally get my blood work done. My testosterone, and IGF-1 levels are quite a bit higher than average for my demographic. But i was a late bloomer and I still look somewhat young. I am sensitive, pretty agreeable and my main focus outside of school is piano. I openly talk to girls about my bisexuality, which I assume is not very masculine. I have ZERO trouble attracting women.
Not like its really impressive but I have 300+ tinder matches in the last two months. To give you an idea.
almost everything is about physical aesthetics.
1 Eeros 2018-02-21
whoa look at this biologist/sociologist/psychologist here! Every culture in the world doesn't have hypermasculinized men like the US does (even in the US this is a new occurrence). It's not natural, it's just something you've been raised to thnk is normal
1 Gargantuar01 2018-02-21
Give me one study that shows women aren't attracted to strong, dominant men. Which are a consequence of high testosterone.
1 EsteraMC 2018-02-21
INCEL MASS SHOOTERS
ALL HAIL ST. ELLIOT! INCEL AKBHAR!
1 CherokeeHarmon 2018-02-21
This comic is a little cringy but I find it funny that it triggers feminists
1 AbysmalDescent 2018-02-21
The only reason why men feel they can't be those things, is because they feel that being any of those things will net them with nothing but rejection, belittlement and isolation. The main deterrent to men being able to freely be those things are women unilaterally shaming and desexualizing them for it. The hazing from men might receive from other men is nothing compared to the direct detriment men will face with women for these traits.
And this post gets it wrong. Because it's two faced. The entire feminist movement is paved with women who preach about equality in public but laugh at, take advantage and "friendzone" and cuck men like that in private. Don't try to teach men that they can be those things, teach women that those traits in men are actually attractive and desirable traits to seek, find or develop in a male partner.
1 Fromfame 2018-02-21
AND NOT GAY**
0 birtopia 2018-02-21
Unless your ugly.
0 Mister_Bambu 2018-02-21
Why is this posted here?
Is the joke that you guys ARE these?
1 pretty_boy_game 2018-02-21
What are u saying fag
1 PM_ME_PYGMY_HIPPOS 2018-02-21
A lot of incels also post in inceltears. What is your point?
1 genetic_scrap 2018-02-21
Confidence and strength extend out from vulnerability. I guess what I should have said was honesty and the setting (of your own) boundaries (and the respect of others).
Since you express yourself honestly, and you're comfortable in your own skin, that's confidence.
Setting your own boundaries, deciding what you will and will not tolerate is strong behavior.
Again, all of this hinges on you being attractive enough physically in the first places (as we all know, incels do not qualify).
1 CMXV 2018-02-21
I still grasp to hope (barely), and cope my way from completely utterly giving up and rotting. Many incels do however. Those that have given up the facade turn into ER and make the crazy bitter posts you see.
1 Dingus_Incel 2018-02-21
If she wouldn't date a soft effeminate man, then thats hypocritical and disrespectful.
1 PM_ME_PYGMY_HIPPOS 2018-02-21
That's ridiculous.
1 jacketboundjester 2018-02-21
I could not give less of a fuck that Emma Watson respected me.
1 Shazoa 2018-02-21
What makes you think this? I've literally never seen it or heard of it round here.
Both do have them. I said nothing of prevalence.
Genuinely, are you sure you don't need the help? Fantasising rape doesn't suggest that you'd actually enjoy rape any more than enjoying video game violence means you'd enjoy murder. These kinds of seemingly conflicting feelings are really quite common in regular people.
1 Shazoa 2018-02-21
I didn't make it seem like anything, you're just reading what you want to hear. Do you have any counter to the contrast that I provided there between fantasy violence and sexual proclivities? Cause there's really no moral difference.
1 i-contain-multitudes 2018-02-21
Thank you for this.
You said your new thing was trying to engage with people who disagree with you rather than throwing insults. I think that’s a really respectable goal. Have you heard of the podcast “conversations with people who hate me” by Dylan Marron? He tries to do the same thing. People will leave him hateful or disagreeable comments online and he will call them on skype and have a conversation with them. I definitely recommend it especially if you are trying to do the same thing.
1 my_nameis_kim 2018-02-21
Praise!!!!!
1 Lalabotdelta 2018-02-21
I love you,youre a great human being. Im a girl and a feminist,more and more,true feminists(not misandrist in disguise)are talking about this. Society will grow!!
1 EastData 2018-02-21
so you're saying he taught himself 3 languages
1 DNthecorner 2018-02-21
Mmk. You're obviously speaking from a point of personal experience, so I guess I'll take your opinion for what it is.
1 ricoue 2018-02-21
How many women have you raped so fat