Wronged how? By not having sex with you? You are owed nothing by anyone. You are not entitled to a woman, nor is a woman entitled to a man. You being repugnant isn't a woman wronging you, it's you being undesirable. Maybe if you'd work to make yourself a better person, and not some pathetic, self hating creep, women would accept you. Fix yourself.
By ignoring us, rejecting us at every chance and treating us like shit. I am not repugnant when I'm going after a girl. I already think of myself as a better person than most and I don't hate myself, there is nothing to fix.
They don't owe you attention or dates dude. Wtf is so hard to grasp about that. They haven't wronged you. You have done that yourself. Stop blaming the women and fucking change who you are
By that logic if you help a friend and they offer to pay you for it then it's right for the dude you helped to just hold out on the payment because there was no legally binding agreement and only a verbal or implied agreement.
And are you going out with prostitutes that aren't having sex after you pay?
It fsure feels like it based on how ripped off I am every time I talk to a girl and considering every girl I meet is a slut. With the money I put into dinners and stuff with them it's probably worse than paying prostitute and her just walking off without having sex, wrose emotionally, worse financially and much worse in terms of time wasted... It's more like spending the money on a prostitute and then as she runs away with the money she goes and sucks some dudes dick for free. Because I know they are fucking dudes who don't put in a fraction of the effort I do.
Women aren't some Fucking diy home project. No matter how much "work" you put into them. They don't owe you sex. Get that through your creepy head
What women need to get through THEIR heads is that I'm not putting my time and money into spending time with them so they can piss me off and mostly ignore me to talk to someone else because they are never even willing to go somewhere alone with me and always end up bringing someone else. They pretend to feel bad for me while they clearly dont care, ignore me, use me while not even doing enough to make me feel like they are even fully pretending to care.
So after a woman rejects you, then she's a slut? But not when you think you still have a chance.
How about stop taking them out for dinner. Go for a drink. Don't expect sex. Have fun instead and stop focusing on whether you'll get laid or not. They owe you nothing. If you're letting her use you for money and food etc. that's your fault. Stop doing it. Learn to fucking communicate with girls dude. You being a demanding creepy weasel topped with probably rapey tendencies turns them off
So after a woman rejects you, then she's a slut? But not when you think you still have a chance. Right.
she's a slut before and after, it just adds insult to injury knowing someone who fucks just about everyone ignores you.
How about stop taking them out for dinner. Go for a drink. Don't expect sex. Have fun instead and stop focusing on whether you'll get laid or not. They owe you nothing. If you're letting her use you for money and food etc. that's your fault. Stop doing it. Learn to fucking communicate with girls dude. You being a demanding creepy weasel topped with probably rapey tendencies turns them off
I do take them out to dinner and stuff but I see that as just paying for their time, they still hardly talk to me. I don't expect sex and I don't want a girl who is enough of a slut to have sex with me even if we were dating. I don't enjoy my time out doing things with them because there is nothing I want to do and nothing to talk about and it just feels like i'm wasting time.
Don't say it's my fault for letting women use me for money and food, I choose to as a payment for their time so I can actually interact with them. I do know how to communicate with girls enough to get by. I don't act demanding, creepy, or like a weasel, and I don't have rapey tendencies, I go out of my way to not seem rapey, I don't follow girls around in my car any more, I've always carefully chose my words even when I have to use awkward wording to not seem like a rapist(referring to the girls I'm interested in as "potential girlfriends" rather than "targets"). The only mildly creepy things I've done recently is approaching girls in the women's clothing areas of stores and giving a generic complement that was decided on before even seeing the girl to start a conversation.
If you think whores are more worth it then spare the women you're pursuing and just hire a whore
It's a matter of dignity and wanting a meaningful relationship.
That whole thing you just wrote. That was creepy. Ok. You are a creep. So learn to not be one and learn some social skills and you'll dramatically improve
I think I just listed some pretty big improvements I made in terms of not seeming creepy so I'm getting better with that, leaning social skills is hard when you are barely around people. How am I "clearly" demanding sex? I'm mad about not having companionship and a woman to give me affection, not sex, it could definitely be a part of it but that isn't my demand.
every incel on this sub doesn't respect women. Y'all would rape them if you could.
absolutely fucking not. For you o believe that 8,463 people here would rape someone absolutely floors me. Although on second thought, it shouldn't. Some people, like you, can just be absolutely fucking dumb!
You respect them, yet you demand they fuck you and be your fuck slaves. Bullshit. You're sexually frustrated assholes who take no responsibility for your shitty life and blame everyone other than yourselves. Maybe everyone isn't the problem, you are your own problem. Fix yourself and and people will start to like you.
I dont demand anyone be my fuck slave or anything of that sort. I have many female friends. I just want a connection with a female, im lonely as fuck, 20 years old, kissless virgin. I just hate that if I were to approach a girl id be a creep, but my 8/10 friend can approachh her the same way and its considered "confidence". And yea after 20 years of seeing how people are treated differently based on looks I am a little pissed off, and i am sad that I dont have what the majority of males my age have experienced. But i dont want a fuck slave I just want a girl that im attracted to to be attracted back at me and have sex/a relationship with her. Am i being to demanding?
confidence is super important. If you have zero confidence how are you supposed to talk to anyone? I've seen attractive men be terrible with women because they lack confidence.
I literally just said that i approach girls with the same level of confidence as my 8/10 friend lol. The one time I actually thought a girl was into me she just used me to buy drinks and then when we got to the dance floor she ditched me.
From then on i've been living by the famous words of Dr. Lilliam Pumpernickel "Lil pump never spend no money on a bitch".
I dont even think im bad looking like alot of these incels, im just not "hot". Girls have extremely high standards these days as they have alot of supply of men to choose from, so unless you stand out looks wise you're not going anywhere (i mean obviously its possible, its just EXTREMELY rare)
No. No. No. No. No. You're wrong. You approach one girl and she uses you for drinks? That happens to everyone man. Even Chad's. Women can be just as entitled as incels. Ignore and move on to another. You don't give up after one approach. Keep trying. I have one friend who is amazing with women, and very attractive. He gets rejected like 90% of the time. Wanna know why he always gets laid? Because he constantly talks to new girls. If you give up after one try, how are you going to succeed? You think an athlete like Wayne Gretzky just became the best hockey player on his first game? He practice. He lost games. He failed and he kept trying. They aren't the best because of a gift from God. They are good naturally, sure, but that means nothing if it isn't refined. So you're going to have full get rejected hundreds of times before you get good with women. But you eventually will.
If you dont have the looks the girl wont even give you a chance. The only time I had a chance talking to a hot girl was when my freinds went out for lunch and they brought their hot friend with them, she was completely repulsed by me (i could tell by her body language) even though we had many interests and taste in music etc. in common. the only reason she even talked with me was because she didnt want to seem like a total bitch in front of my/her friends (I was really fat at the time and extremely ugly, since then ive lost 50lbs and changed my style, so maybe i have a sembance of a chance if i ever meet her again).
Most of my rejections have been recent though, since i actually thought i had good looks and gained the confidence to talk to girls i have had 0 success. All of this even after attempting to improve myself. I actually thought i had reached "chaddom" by losing weight and changing my style but it didnt do shit really in the end. Even still i look in the mirror and think im good looking but apparently women dont. Idk what to do and i just wanna die tbh.
I wish i could know how other people thought of my looks (other than my friends who obviously tell me im good looking because they're being nice). Can i pm you some pics of my face, im curious to see wht you think.
That's still giving them more respect than most people do, there is nothing we can change, women won't like me no matter what I do and I wont be in contact with any.
Because you refuse to improve who you are. Instead of change your wallow in self pity and cry on Reddit. Why would a woman want to be with some one who acts like that?
Someone who really loves you isn't always looking for "something better," though. That's the difference between a hookup and a meaningful relationship.
Why do you believe you have nothing to offer that's worth holding on to?
If you think about it there is always someone better than you and the lower you are the more there are. It's nature to find the best partner you can and settle with them.
Are the people and things you love objectively 'better' than all other people and things, or is your attachment to them based on something else?
People can't be ranked on a scale of 1-10--we're more complex than that. Finding a partner who's compatible with you is not like comparison shopping for TVs. Of course people have preferences, but your outlook is way too reductive.
I base it off what I have seen and experienced in my life. I am starting to think you have to truly know it to believe it as many that have experienced the same have always agreed profusely with what I have had to say.
We may be more complex, but nature is more simple.
I do respect women and I barely got any respect back.
I met only a few girls who ever really respected me. I am glad there were some, but there seriously aren't much of them. I am not hating women tho. But that's just reality.
"Can a man be brave if he's afraid?"
"That is the only time a man can be brave."
Chill out about it, what's the worst that could happen? You get rejected and lost nothing but your self confidence for about an hour. There is really no reason to not approach them if you are interested, but if you act like a scared creep you're gonna be rejected a whole lot. Signify confidence and the whole thing will go your way. No one wants to hang out with someone who doesn't even believe in himself, how can you expect trust from someone else then? It's way better to seem a little cocky than to seem shy and uninterested.
every incel on this sub doesn't respect women. Y'all would rape them if you could.
absolutely fucking not. For you o believe that 8,463 people here would rape someone absolutely floors me. Although on second thought, it shouldn't. Some people, like you, can just be absolutely fucking dumb!
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1 zielony4 2018-02-18
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1 IsThisRealReddit 2018-02-18
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1 zielony4 2018-02-18
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1 IsThisRealReddit 2018-02-18
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1 dslyker 2018-02-18
"Doesn't respect women. Just has sex with them" every incel on this sub doesn't respect women. Y'all would rape them if you could.
1 zielony4 2018-02-18
Wow, you know us so well. Are you a gay stalker or something?
1 thaway20173 2018-02-18
Lmao the guys on this sub talk more about “chad” dick than anything female related besides hatred and violence. Who’s gay?
1 KhalilYousuf3 2018-02-18
so your admitting both chad and incels have shit personalities with regard to respecting women.
1 Gymcel__ 2018-02-18
CHAD doesn't respect women either. Only cucked normies view women as people.
1 dslyker 2018-02-18
So women aren't people? How were you born then? Did your two dad's shit you out after a night of buttsex?
1 mens-libthrowaway 2018-02-18
A toxic homophobic response
1 dslyker 2018-02-18
No. I'm disputing the fact that he thinks women aren't people but he has a mother
1 mens-libthrowaway 2018-02-18
A dishonest explanation
1 dslyker 2018-02-18
So he doesn't have a mother?
1 mens-libthrowaway 2018-02-18
An insincere query
1 Dio_Landa 2018-02-18
"Incels respect women" just a few comments later and I see this comment.
Haha, gold.
1 mu_mikami 2018-02-18
and your point is...?
1 dslyker 2018-02-18
You bitch about "Chad's" not respecting women. Incels are the most disrespectful turds out there
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-02-18
At least we are disrespectful after years of being wronged by women.
1 dslyker 2018-02-18
Wronged how? By not having sex with you? You are owed nothing by anyone. You are not entitled to a woman, nor is a woman entitled to a man. You being repugnant isn't a woman wronging you, it's you being undesirable. Maybe if you'd work to make yourself a better person, and not some pathetic, self hating creep, women would accept you. Fix yourself.
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-02-18
By ignoring us, rejecting us at every chance and treating us like shit. I am not repugnant when I'm going after a girl. I already think of myself as a better person than most and I don't hate myself, there is nothing to fix.
1 dslyker 2018-02-18
They don't owe you attention or dates dude. Wtf is so hard to grasp about that. They haven't wronged you. You have done that yourself. Stop blaming the women and fucking change who you are
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-02-18
Just because they didn't sign a legally binding contract doesn't mean they are right to reject me after all the work I put into them.
1 dslyker 2018-02-18
Yes. Yes they are.
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-02-18
By that logic if you help a friend and they offer to pay you for it then it's right for the dude you helped to just hold out on the payment because there was no legally binding agreement and only a verbal or implied agreement.
1 dslyker 2018-02-18
Women aren't some Fucking diy home project. No matter how much "work" you put into them. They don't owe you sex. Get that through your creepy head
And are you going out with prostitutes that aren't having sex after you pay?
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-02-18
It fsure feels like it based on how ripped off I am every time I talk to a girl and considering every girl I meet is a slut. With the money I put into dinners and stuff with them it's probably worse than paying prostitute and her just walking off without having sex, wrose emotionally, worse financially and much worse in terms of time wasted... It's more like spending the money on a prostitute and then as she runs away with the money she goes and sucks some dudes dick for free. Because I know they are fucking dudes who don't put in a fraction of the effort I do.
What women need to get through THEIR heads is that I'm not putting my time and money into spending time with them so they can piss me off and mostly ignore me to talk to someone else because they are never even willing to go somewhere alone with me and always end up bringing someone else. They pretend to feel bad for me while they clearly dont care, ignore me, use me while not even doing enough to make me feel like they are even fully pretending to care.
1 dslyker 2018-02-18
So after a woman rejects you, then she's a slut? But not when you think you still have a chance.
How about stop taking them out for dinner. Go for a drink. Don't expect sex. Have fun instead and stop focusing on whether you'll get laid or not. They owe you nothing. If you're letting her use you for money and food etc. that's your fault. Stop doing it. Learn to fucking communicate with girls dude. You being a demanding creepy weasel topped with probably rapey tendencies turns them off
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-02-18
she's a slut before and after, it just adds insult to injury knowing someone who fucks just about everyone ignores you.
I do take them out to dinner and stuff but I see that as just paying for their time, they still hardly talk to me. I don't expect sex and I don't want a girl who is enough of a slut to have sex with me even if we were dating. I don't enjoy my time out doing things with them because there is nothing I want to do and nothing to talk about and it just feels like i'm wasting time.
Don't say it's my fault for letting women use me for money and food, I choose to as a payment for their time so I can actually interact with them. I do know how to communicate with girls enough to get by. I don't act demanding, creepy, or like a weasel, and I don't have rapey tendencies, I go out of my way to not seem rapey, I don't follow girls around in my car any more, I've always carefully chose my words even when I have to use awkward wording to not seem like a rapist(referring to the girls I'm interested in as "potential girlfriends" rather than "targets"). The only mildly creepy things I've done recently is approaching girls in the women's clothing areas of stores and giving a generic complement that was decided on before even seeing the girl to start a conversation.
It's a matter of dignity and wanting a meaningful relationship.
1 dslyker 2018-02-18
That whole thing you just wrote. That was creepy. Ok. You are a creep. So learn to not be one and learn some social skills and you'll dramatically improve
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-02-18
I think I just listed some pretty big improvements I made in terms of not seeming creepy so I'm getting better with that, leaning social skills is hard when you are barely around people. How am I "clearly" demanding sex? I'm mad about not having companionship and a woman to give me affection, not sex, it could definitely be a part of it but that isn't my demand.
1 shadowcat211 2018-02-18
That's not true. Some incels hate women. Not all of us.
1 AjitPaiFan 2018-02-18
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
1 Dio_Landa 2018-02-18
The truth must have stung so badly that your only argument is that?
My sides.
1 AjitPaiFan 2018-02-18
Ok
1 KnowNothingKnowsAll 2018-02-18
What kind of stupid ass point is this?
1 bloatmaxx 2018-02-18
YEEEEEHAW Y'ALL
1 PM_ME_UR_FAV_QUOTE_ 2018-02-18
absolutely fucking not. For you o believe that 8,463 people here would rape someone absolutely floors me. Although on second thought, it shouldn't. Some people, like you, can just be absolutely fucking dumb!
1 dslyker 2018-02-18
The amount of pro rape, abuse, and entitlement I've seen in this sub says otherwise.
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-02-18
We still respect women more than average dudes, maybe that's our problem and we should treat them like shit like everyone else.
1 dslyker 2018-02-18
You respect them, yet you demand they fuck you and be your fuck slaves. Bullshit. You're sexually frustrated assholes who take no responsibility for your shitty life and blame everyone other than yourselves. Maybe everyone isn't the problem, you are your own problem. Fix yourself and and people will start to like you.
1 yungvibegod2 2018-02-18
I dont demand anyone be my fuck slave or anything of that sort. I have many female friends. I just want a connection with a female, im lonely as fuck, 20 years old, kissless virgin. I just hate that if I were to approach a girl id be a creep, but my 8/10 friend can approachh her the same way and its considered "confidence". And yea after 20 years of seeing how people are treated differently based on looks I am a little pissed off, and i am sad that I dont have what the majority of males my age have experienced. But i dont want a fuck slave I just want a girl that im attracted to to be attracted back at me and have sex/a relationship with her. Am i being to demanding?
1 dslyker 2018-02-18
confidence is super important. If you have zero confidence how are you supposed to talk to anyone? I've seen attractive men be terrible with women because they lack confidence.
1 yungvibegod2 2018-02-18
I literally just said that i approach girls with the same level of confidence as my 8/10 friend lol. The one time I actually thought a girl was into me she just used me to buy drinks and then when we got to the dance floor she ditched me.
From then on i've been living by the famous words of Dr. Lilliam Pumpernickel "Lil pump never spend no money on a bitch".
I dont even think im bad looking like alot of these incels, im just not "hot". Girls have extremely high standards these days as they have alot of supply of men to choose from, so unless you stand out looks wise you're not going anywhere (i mean obviously its possible, its just EXTREMELY rare)
1 dslyker 2018-02-18
No. No. No. No. No. You're wrong. You approach one girl and she uses you for drinks? That happens to everyone man. Even Chad's. Women can be just as entitled as incels. Ignore and move on to another. You don't give up after one approach. Keep trying. I have one friend who is amazing with women, and very attractive. He gets rejected like 90% of the time. Wanna know why he always gets laid? Because he constantly talks to new girls. If you give up after one try, how are you going to succeed? You think an athlete like Wayne Gretzky just became the best hockey player on his first game? He practice. He lost games. He failed and he kept trying. They aren't the best because of a gift from God. They are good naturally, sure, but that means nothing if it isn't refined. So you're going to have full get rejected hundreds of times before you get good with women. But you eventually will.
1 yungvibegod2 2018-02-18
I dont have the mental strength to go through any more rejections, i already hate myself enough.
1 dslyker 2018-02-18
Looks matter for the first 5 seconds. Get passed that and it's personality.
1 yungvibegod2 2018-02-18
If you dont have the looks the girl wont even give you a chance. The only time I had a chance talking to a hot girl was when my freinds went out for lunch and they brought their hot friend with them, she was completely repulsed by me (i could tell by her body language) even though we had many interests and taste in music etc. in common. the only reason she even talked with me was because she didnt want to seem like a total bitch in front of my/her friends (I was really fat at the time and extremely ugly, since then ive lost 50lbs and changed my style, so maybe i have a sembance of a chance if i ever meet her again).
1 dslyker 2018-02-18
See there we go. Improve yourself and things will be better
1 yungvibegod2 2018-02-18
Most of my rejections have been recent though, since i actually thought i had good looks and gained the confidence to talk to girls i have had 0 success. All of this even after attempting to improve myself. I actually thought i had reached "chaddom" by losing weight and changing my style but it didnt do shit really in the end. Even still i look in the mirror and think im good looking but apparently women dont. Idk what to do and i just wanna die tbh.
1 dslyker 2018-02-18
You probably are good-looking. Just keep trying
1 yungvibegod2 2018-02-18
I wish i could know how other people thought of my looks (other than my friends who obviously tell me im good looking because they're being nice). Can i pm you some pics of my face, im curious to see wht you think.
1 dslyker 2018-02-18
Sure
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-02-18
That's still giving them more respect than most people do, there is nothing we can change, women won't like me no matter what I do and I wont be in contact with any.
1 dslyker 2018-02-18
Because you refuse to improve who you are. Instead of change your wallow in self pity and cry on Reddit. Why would a woman want to be with some one who acts like that?
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-02-18
Because it's just so easy to become more attractive is that it?
1 changeIsTheWay 2018-02-18
More like "The Fakecel Attempt"
An incel wouldn't get her number in the first place, dipshit.
1 zielony4 2018-02-18
1 changeIsTheWay 2018-02-18
Talking about the writer of the comment
1 zielony4 2018-02-18
Whoops. Seemed so direct.
1 mens-libthrowaway 2018-02-18
The virgin apology vs the chad rebuttal
1 NotQuiteSane42 2018-02-18
More like getting a fake number
1 changeIsTheWay 2018-02-18
Cope
1 AbyssWolf 2018-02-18
Why go after something when you can go after something better? There is no point in us trying when there are always better options for girls to take.
1 A_Temporary_Visitor 2018-02-18
Someone who really loves you isn't always looking for "something better," though. That's the difference between a hookup and a meaningful relationship.
Why do you believe you have nothing to offer that's worth holding on to?
1 AbyssWolf 2018-02-18
If you think about it there is always someone better than you and the lower you are the more there are. It's nature to find the best partner you can and settle with them.
1 A_Temporary_Visitor 2018-02-18
Are the people and things you love objectively 'better' than all other people and things, or is your attachment to them based on something else?
People can't be ranked on a scale of 1-10--we're more complex than that. Finding a partner who's compatible with you is not like comparison shopping for TVs. Of course people have preferences, but your outlook is way too reductive.
1 AbyssWolf 2018-02-18
I base it off what I have seen and experienced in my life. I am starting to think you have to truly know it to believe it as many that have experienced the same have always agreed profusely with what I have had to say.
We may be more complex, but nature is more simple.
1 NotQuiteSane42 2018-02-18
i appreciate the continuity, nice touch
1 plantlover3 2018-02-18
LMAOOOOO
1 Dio_Landa 2018-02-18
Implying you virgins "respect" women?
That is going a bit too far, we don't have to lie here, come on, let's be honest.
1 zielony4 2018-02-18
Why would I respect useless sluts who have nothing but black pigmented beef flaps?
1 Dio_Landa 2018-02-18
Why would they respect hairy sasquash with violent tendensies, autism, and deformed jaw?
Road goes two ways boy.
1 undeadcel 2018-02-18
They dont and thats the fucking point
1 anonschizoid 2018-02-18
I do respect women and I barely got any respect back. I met only a few girls who ever really respected me. I am glad there were some, but there seriously aren't much of them. I am not hating women tho. But that's just reality.
1 PM_ME_UR_FAV_QUOTE_ 2018-02-18
Stop generalizing everyone here. You're no worse than your boogeyman assuming we're all misogynistic rapists.
1 fsaotti 2018-02-18
"Can a man be brave if he's afraid?" "That is the only time a man can be brave."
Chill out about it, what's the worst that could happen? You get rejected and lost nothing but your self confidence for about an hour. There is really no reason to not approach them if you are interested, but if you act like a scared creep you're gonna be rejected a whole lot. Signify confidence and the whole thing will go your way. No one wants to hang out with someone who doesn't even believe in himself, how can you expect trust from someone else then? It's way better to seem a little cocky than to seem shy and uninterested.
1 Blacktoll 2018-02-18
I can't believe you dumb weirdos fucking draw this shit
1 zielony4 2018-02-18
Wow, you know us so well. Are you a gay stalker or something?
1 KhalilYousuf3 2018-02-18
so your admitting both chad and incels have shit personalities with regard to respecting women.
1 Gymcel__ 2018-02-18
CHAD doesn't respect women either. Only cucked normies view women as people.
1 mu_mikami 2018-02-18
and your point is...?
1 shadowcat211 2018-02-18
That's not true. Some incels hate women. Not all of us.
1 AjitPaiFan 2018-02-18
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
1 bloatmaxx 2018-02-18
YEEEEEHAW Y'ALL
1 AjitPaiFan 2018-02-18
Ok
1 PM_ME_UR_FAV_QUOTE_ 2018-02-18
absolutely fucking not. For you o believe that 8,463 people here would rape someone absolutely floors me. Although on second thought, it shouldn't. Some people, like you, can just be absolutely fucking dumb!
1 ceDrowRanger 2018-02-18
We still respect women more than average dudes, maybe that's our problem and we should treat them like shit like everyone else.