If you glorify or defend a mass shooting, you get a ban

111  2018-02-15 by AnathematicAnarchist

I'm sick of deleting this shit.

166 comments

It never happened. Its fake news.

Your username is awesome. Ted Cruz is also my hero.

I am 100% not smiling ear to ear cause of a mass shooting. It’s totally unrelated

Sarcastic "subtle" glorification also counts.

I called the guy a faggot, u/carpathianflorist for mod

Gotta maintain the status quo right man

Marxist-Rodgerist revolution is inevitable. Stop coping faggot

I don’t get it. Just because some people are able to have relationships, while you can’t, doesn’t mean they deserve to die. Life is unfair but you don’t have to act out against more successful people.

I don’t think it’s really fair to use the “some incels” qualifier there. People from every demographic - weird internet clique, ethnic group, career field, whatever - inevitably produce the odd piece of shit spree killer who does what they do for retarded reasons. Rodger ranted about how people deserved to die for, quote, “the crime of having a better life than me.” Vegas dude killed people because he was in debt. Bundy got off on it. Dahmer thought eating people was a way of spiritually fusing with them.

When a repressed loser does it because they’re lonely, the rationale is irrelevant; they just sucked - horribly - at the whole living thing and their personal, voluntary fuckups just happened to manifest with those results. They’d have been just as likely to snap and do it for any other bullshit reason because they can’t do anything right, that just happened to be the one they saddled themselves with.

My $0.02.

I’ve been lurking the various incels subreddits for some time, and noticed a decent number of pro-mass killer comments, most in jest, maybe some not. Also seen Elliot Rodger called “Saint Elliot” numerous times. Again maybe people are mostly joking but there is certainly a fixation on these killers who act out against the normies.

It’s probably just because there has been a lot of people who wax poetic about Rodger across different incel boards on the internet. I don’t disagree though, it’s not just incels who do this kind of shit.

are you guys this blind? It's the inceltears loser, they've been doing this shit since the OG sub. ANd they will continue to do it because that is their life. They spend all day making accounts and downvoting everything possible and saying stupid shit. they have nothing better to do.

I can assure you none of us are that interested in what incels do.

REALLY NOW

Getting a good laugh at the cluelessness that goes on in this sub is about the extent of our involvement.

You all are getting paranoid. Get a grip, no one cares what incels do that much. Stop saying stupid shit and we will stop laughing at it.

You literally have a sub dedicated just to discussing what goes on on this sub. It's obvious you care deeply.

LMAO this is the dumbest shit I've read all day, and I've read a few of neomancr's and DrJohanwhateverthefuck's comments.

It's depressing how obsessed and salty they are over us. Seriously people, are your lives that shitty that stalking incels makes it better?

Piss the fuck off.

no one cares what incels do that much. shooting happens ITS THE INCELS GUYZZ! (okay, its an incel this time around, and perhaps some a few years back, but for the unrelated majority) ALERT MODDSS NAO. BAN BRAINCELS. TAKE DOWN THEIR WEBSITE. HAVE THEM SWATTED JUST AAAAAAAA!! Also, heres a screenshot I took off their sub, now time for le upvote PPAAARTAAYY!! (^ _^ )/$@&@

Piss. Off.

Holy fucking shit how can you be so unaware

Holy fucking shit, you need to fix your tin foil hat there.

Hahahahahahaha you must be joking...

I don’t glorify mass shooters but some empathy from society would be nice

Empathy for the shooter? They lose all empathy from society when they kill people. But this guy was apparently in trouble at school last year for fighting with his girlfriend. So he isn’t incel. Even if he was not exactly a good person to represent your cause.

...

Yes, life is unfair, sometimes someone kills you.

cope

I don’t get why some incels glorify mass killers

I'm quite sure that's not true. You carefully avoid considering the issue beyond the absolute surface because publicly taking a noncontroversial, comforting position will win you much social approval and you consider that more important than thinking critically.

It's because they can't accept that it is their own sinister intent that is driving away people. Normal society can tell you're unbalanced, and is acting accordingly out of self-preservation. Since they can't accept it they double down on their own conspiracy theories, further distancing themselves from reality.

This is the truest advice but it took me a long time to get it, and I’m 56... life is unfair and most people are out for themselves, hating gets you nowhere. You gotta focus on the positive even if it’s tiny compared to a mountain of shit. But yeah it takes a lot of time to see the bigger picture when you hate yourself and the world you’re in.

Thank god

The fact that this needed to be said speaks volumes about the mental state of this sub's subscribers.

I disagree.

This was a tragic act of violence, of course, but tragic acts of violence happen all the time that are supported by the masses on Reddit and beyond.

When a US airstrike killed dozens of Russians, most people defended it and the ones who didn't were mostly apathetic rather than indignant.

All this says about incels is that many of them are on the fringes of society and thus judge different pointless acts of mass violence to be favorable as compared to normal people.

"All this says about incels is that many of them are on the fringes of society and thus judge different pointless acts of mass violence to be favorable as compared to normal people."

Exactly what I said. Try to keep up, kiddo

Mental state is different than social state.

Please learn what words mean.

"#Judge pointless acts of violence"

That makes it mental state. What you described is why a social state might contribute to their mental state. Try to keep up, lad

Oh, okay, we're just gonna do semantics even though you obviously implied by "mental state" that it had something to do with incels' mental health and/or stability. Cool.

What I said established an opinion. What you said attempted to justify the premise of my opinion. Then, somehow, you thought that proved my opinion wrong. Then, when I called you out, you backed away and called it "semantics."

You're a weird kid. Stay in school.

No one uses "mental state" to talk about someone's general judgement. They use it to describe someone's mental stability.

You are being intentionally obtuse to achieve an imaginary "victory" in this non-debate.

Yet here you are, defending your non-evidence

How do you expect me to provide evidence for something like "People use the term 'mental state' to describe someone's mental health"?

Shall I go poll the general public? Brb, conducting scientific research. Should be back in a year or two.

Man, this is why you're single

I get the sense that you are one of those people who really just can't stand it when someone challenges them intellectually. I don't understand those people, but I enjoy making fun of them.

So, you're a fucking moron. How's that?

Classic regression coupled with inflated sense of self. Unsurprising. Look at how angry you get.

Hold on, let me get an appropriate sound effect to match the sophistication of your arguments.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8XTpCwicwE

Not good with Google, huh? That's alright. I'm going to let you get back to your school shooting fantasies and justifications now. Keep on getting angry way too easily, and please, please stay a virgin. That's from all of us over here in functional society.

Yeah man. Women hate guys who use facts to back up their arguments.

Still no facts, still no evidence. Don't reproduce.

Lol at how you believe that reproduction is only something people with your views should do.

Never made the case for me doing it, just want to be absolutely sure that you won't. The world doesn't need it.

:(

Doesn't seem like it's an issue, though, given the.... company you keep.

When a US airstrike killed dozens of Russians, most people defended it and the ones who didn't were mostly apathetic rather than indignant.

Mercenaries who sign up for the war they had no reason to be in? I can hardly be sympathetic to mercenaries.

You know military service is mandatory in Russia, right?

Syrian campaign is staffed by professionals and mercenaries. No draftees serve there officially. It has also been confirmed that their semi-legal PMC provides troops for Assad as well.

That airstrike, btw, decimated PMCers, as after the numerous queries to Russian MoD, Americans were told that there are no Russian troops in the area.

You watch too much CNN.

I actually pay attention to stuff and I don't have CNN, mate.

no the majority of the people are from incelstears sub reddit. They do this shit all the time, but people like you(probably from inceltears to try n fuel the fire) come here and spin shit up. Why can't you just leave the place alone? EVery post gets downvoted to 50% so it's so damn obvious it's you guys pulling the bullshit.

You have nothing better to do then brigade aLL DAY AND NITE to and imoster incels to make them look worse so you can get a ban. sounds too stupid too be true but you actually do it.

Right, right, of course - it's all fake news and plants. Gotcha. wink

We've caught them multiple times forgetting to switch accounts. Why else do you think all of our posts gets downvoted to 50%? Brigaders. there is an entire sub dedicated for this one. I mean by the way your acting obviously you're one of them. i know it's happening because this thread is already at 75% so we're being brigaded by that sub you like so much.

Oh no, no man - I just found out today that you guys all got back together over here! I was so excited!

Like you didn't already know, you spend all day here obsessing about us pretending you aren't one of us lol

Projection. Beautiful. Stay lonely, kid ;)

And yet you're the one who spends all day obsessing over us. You're trying hard to sound like you're cool, it isn't work.

and who's projecting? I didn't say anything about being lonely, are you lonely? Well, your home is here once you finally realize who you really are.

Well, your home is here once you finally realize who you really are.

slow clap.

Ah the go-to bluepiller argument style. Super obvious sarcasm to maintain the image of being moral and virtuous and all that fluffy magical crap.

Wow, defending a school shooter. That's low even for you sickos

Can't even tell when you tards are joking at this point. What did he do to defend a school shooter?

Nah, we can just head over to incels.me and see all the crap going down over there without these fake accounts you keep accusing us of having.

Hooray

That should be the stupidest denial I have read

Who else sits here and downvotes EVERY SINGLE THREAD. brigaders from incel tears who we have caught forgetting to switch accounts. Lmao, if we have caught you red handed and we're in denial? hahah

Man, the fact that you have to come over and make snide remarks says a lot about you.

Defending a school shooter? Low, even for you lot.

Sure, yes, except I don't see anyone here doing that so who is this "you" you speak of. On the other hand, here you are trying to make people feel bad. You're the baddie, dude. No one else here is.

Sorry about your school shooter fantasies, sicko

xDDDD you're such a

TROLL

keep up the magnificent trolling kind sir :P and take my upvote :P

Thanks for showing up, weeaboo

Enjoy virginity

lol xD i got owned again xD

Geesh, dude. So you're just a giant asshole. Fucking Reddit, why am I not surprised? Go bully someone else, asshole. Why you gotta pick on people? Why you gotta act like you're in middle school?

I'm not the one defending a school shooting

No one else is, either. Why are you being a dick?

Because he is a loser.

The fact that this is actually a rule speaks to how cucked the mods & owner of this sub are.

Man, you guys are obsessed with this nonsensical lingo. Calling people cucks doesn't make it true. Somebody out there is fucking. We just know it isn't you.

Does calling other people obsessed make you feel better? I can't think of another reason to use it here.

Way to address the point. Keep up the good work, kiddo

yeah....thereddior's first post is glorifying the mass shooting...seems suspicious to me.

Stop being a triggered cuck. People trolling and shitposting is nothing to get authoritarian over. It'll fucking blow over in a week like it always does. If you are trying to save face because of normies they already think that we all support mass murdering and other such things and have shown no desire to change that opinion. You being a fag isn't going to change that.

This is reddit though so this type of shitty modding should be expected I guess.

This is explicitly against the content policy.

If you're too fucking stupid to read the content policy, then don't get mad at me when you get banned for breaking it.

The content policy is broken all the fucking time. So what?

It's also not explicitly against it unless they are encouraging it. Trolls can still say "I'm glad x number of people died" and such. That is not an explicit call for violence. We can argue that it is implicit, but it is not explicit and you know it.

It glorifies it, which is against the content policy.

Fucking read it already.

I have read it.

Again, so what? People glorify acts of violence on this site all the fucking time. Again, the content policy does not mean shit unless you are posting CP or something.

All I am trying to do is get you to admit the real reason you are doing this. We all know it is not because it 'glorifies' it. It's because you don't want braincels to be banned like incels was because normies are too retarded to comprehend trolls and shitposts (and the fact that there are people to ugly to get laid). That's fine, but lying about your reasoning is not a good tactic to use especially when anyone with an IQ above room temperature can see through this shit. This is hardly anything new.

Obeying the content policy and wanting my sub to not be banned are not mutually exclusive.

I'm not lying about my reasoning. I delete anything that violates the content policy (to my understanding of it) because I don't want my sub to get banned. I've been more than a little transparent in this regard.

Obeying the content policy and wanting my sub to not be banned are not mutually exclusive.

I did not say that they were. I was stating that you are not doing this because you care about the content policy like you tried to imply with your OP. You are doing this first and foremost because you do not want the sub to be banned. You are not being transparent and did not admit to this until now when I called you out on it.

I delete anything that violates the content policy (to my understanding of it) because I don't want my sub to get banned.

Exactly. You do not care about the content policy, you "don't want my sub to get banned". So just fucking say that instead of trying to appeal to normies (implicitly) by pretending to care about the content policy.

You are fucking dense.

I do care about the content policy, because my sub's adherence to it determines whether or not we get banned.

You are the dense one.

You care about your sub. The content policy violations can get the subbed banned so you obey the content policy. You do not care about it. It could say anything and you would follow it. If it said no posting pictures of Pandas or something you would follow it not because you care about it but because you care about your sub. Obeying is not caring.

This is not hard to understand. How fucking dense can you be?

you're a shitty troll

Ok

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Found the cuck.

Permanent or temporary?

It's up to moderator discretion.

How anarchist of you. Shame you weren't there

Your sub will fall. The shooter was an incel.

Proof?

Ppl should just flock to incels.me

what counts as "glorifying"? obviously saying he was right to do it, it's a heroic deed etc, but what about just describing our emotions. for example would saying we feel happy today result in a ban? what about just saying we don't care? what about just finding it entertaining or funny?

for example would saying we feel happy today result in a ban?

If it's that vague, no.

what about just saying we don't care?

Nope, wouldn't get banned.

what about just finding it entertaining or funny?

Depends on the context, tbh. I'd mostly avoid joking about events like this just because the line is so thin.

Ok sounds about right. Usually I'd be in favor of letting us say whatever we want but the admins have gotten more ban heavy in the last year or so and seem pretty random and unpredictable in what they will let go or decide is over the line. Makes sense to err on the side of caution atm.

Why exactly would it not be a ban to say that this spree of hate-motivated child murders makes you happy, or amuses you? That's glorifying/condoning/endorsing.

Because he's not specifically saying the shooting made him happy, he's saying today made him happy.

I'm sure a lot of people were happy today. It's Valentine's Day.

Is that seriously how you interpreted the question?

"Would saying we feel happy today result in a ban"

Seems pretty cut-and-dry to me.

Really? The context?

"What constitutes glorifying the killing? What if I merely say I'm happy?"

Why would he be asking if talking about being happy on valentine's day would result in a ban? Come on. He wants to know how far he can express his approval of the killing without saying "it was a good thing."

Braincels is cucked!

damn

Define defend. Watch about sympathy, or discussing contributing factors and stuff? Or should we just not talk about the topic at all unless it's "my thoughts are with the victims, what a disgusting human being I thought he burns in hell, I can't believe people like that exist?"

Defend as in your central thesis is "I think this should've happened" or "I think the normies deserved it" or "This was an incredibly brave and noble act".

None of these are hyperbole, btw. Everything I've been deleting looks like this.

So you can’t be bothered to get off your lazy ass and delete the comments from the bazillion normie trolls infesting the subreddit, but you’re going to waste your time overmoderating actual incels?

Fuck you, honestly.

Calls for actual violence are against the sitewide rules—fine, delete those.

But praising it is a perfectly normal reaction for people who’ve been bullied all their lives just like the shooter was and you’re a fucking cuck for pulling this shit.

No, praising and wanting violence is actially a sign of sociopathy! Please consult a doctor!

And sometimes it’s entirely logical, you cuck.

No, it's not. Wanting to harm others is a sign of serious mental illness. It's not logical, it's driven by unchecked and unregulated emotions.

So how do those violate the site-wide content policy?

I was wondering when someone was going to say something about this.

Bro, can we get these new rules on the side bar already? What the fuck is you doing

This isn't really a new rule. I'm just enforcing an old rule more harshly.

Then put it on the side bar for everyone to see? I don't see anything about race-baiting on the side bar either. We get hundreds of new users every week.

Update the side bar

Then put it on the side bar for everyone to see?

What did I just tell you

It's already on the sidebar, it's literally the first rule

I don't see anything about race-baiting on the side bar either

Alright, that one I'll add.

Why don’t you worry about cleansing the subreddit of normie trolls instead of overmoderating and power tripping on actual incels?

what if you think its fake?

then you're a moron.

Aaand the people on IT are already spouting off about how every incel is celebrating this shooting.

Fuck these people.

Can you still post about Marxist-Rodgerism though? I had quite spicy a meme on the pipeline.

I miss r/incels. No pc cuckery

I came over here specifically because i saw a screenshot of people on this subreddit doing exactly that. So happy to see it's been addressed

The only killer we should be praising is u/azavii, bane of the normies, hunter of landwhales, protector of incels.

Mental state is different than social state.

Please learn what words mean.

Oh, okay, we're just gonna do semantics even though you obviously implied by "mental state" that it had something to do with incels' mental health and/or stability. Cool.

Yet here you are, defending your non-evidence

Ok

No its not ok. The mods are doing a great job and you are trolling them

Because he is a loser.

So you can’t be bothered to get off your lazy ass and delete the comments from the bazillion normie trolls infesting the subreddit, but you’re going to waste your time overmoderating actual incels?

Fuck you, honestly.

Calls for actual violence are against the sitewide rules—fine, delete those.

But praising it is a perfectly normal reaction for people who’ve been bullied all their lives just like the shooter was and you’re a fucking cuck for pulling this shit.

Never made the case for me doing it, just want to be absolutely sure that you won't. The world doesn't need it.

So how do those violate the site-wide content policy?

I actually pay attention to stuff and I don't have CNN, mate.