I lost my virginity

64  2018-02-14 by DontDownvoteGEORGIE

240 comments

No longer an INCEL and now I am married but my wife doesnt know how I was a virgin until this year (Age 56)

Really happy for you :) You look really young for your age too.

thanks brother!

How old is she?

22

Why is she with you?

I wish I knew

How did you meet her?

Workbat the same shit place, I cook she serves

do you guys live in russia?

No, Wales

How tall are you?

he posted an imgur album, they both look kinda short ... but i cant tell ... i cant wrap my head round this ...

He found a unicorn. We know they exist. Life fuel. Man congrats to you! Happy you escaped this hell.

A unicorn? A 22 year old who marries a man in his 50s? This is suicide fuel for women. Show me one ugly women in her 50s who works as a cook who can marry a hot 22 year old Chad.

The fact that poor 50+ year old women have a hard time securing emotional and financial commitment from hot men in the early twenties is suicide fuel for you?

Like, you don't want to live in a world where hot Chads aren't getting married to poor women in their fifties?

Why?

You always twist stuff the dumbest way possible. The fact that a hot 22-year-old ends up with a poor 50+ year old is suicide fuel for ugly women, yes. Same as the reverse would be for men.

Don't be so hypocritical. Image if there was a website where ugly women celebrated unabashedly marrying Chads. The users of this sub would be the first to be outraged.

Same as the reverse would be for men.

Why would the reverse be true for men?

Image if there was a website where ugly women celebrated unabashedly marrying Chads. The users of this sub would be the first to be outraged.

Certainly, because it would be another reminder to them that they're out of the dating market whereas women, no matter what flaws they possess, are immune from that. Which is what makes your reaction so unreasonable - you're not out of the dating market, and neither are any other women. So the suicide fuel is not in the inability to experience romance and sex - it's in the inability to experience it with hot men. Which is what prompted my question - why is that something to kill yourself over?

It's the same way the incels talk and you know it.

I just described to you the difference, so no, it's not the same way.

Why would you take something so positive and turn it into something so negative? Stop trying to put others down to make yourself feel better. And talk yourself and women up because of your feelings of shame.

Good point sir and good day to you

Familiarity is the great equalizer. They worked together. Incels who tell you it's all about looks are clueless. They truly just are inexperienced and don't understand. The more women know you over time the less looks matter, and they can become genuinely attracted to you based on other things. Of course if you're a creepy angry weirdo and have nothing going for you, then that will never happen, which is why a lot of incels never figure this out.

Just be white.

I'm white

All I'm seeing is that when I see an unattractive man with an attractive woman that it's almost always a white couple.

I think that says more about white women than white men

You only had sex with her after you married her? What would she think if she found out you were a virgin?

Honestly I have no idea but I’ll probably end up telling her, I was going to tell her tonight but I chickened out. She’s not religious either but said she wanted to take things slow as a snail due to things in her life she was going through and we’d only been seeing each other six months when I asked her to marry me. However we have known each other three years this March.

things in her life she was going through

Like what?

Loss of a family member

Do you trust her?

Yeah I think that’s the main thing that kept her interested in me. I think she’s very smart and talented and I trust her more than I do my own family but to be fair that’s not saying much. We pretty much are around each other all the time at work and she’s a homebody type these days but admitted she never used to be growing up.

What do you do for work?

I’m a badly paid cook

Honestly I have no idea but I’ll probably end up telling her

No point in being low machiavellism, never tell something if there is no benefit in doing so.

Good point!

You wouldn't be lying. If it comes up you can be honest and tell her but you're not obligated to do it now.

never tell her she might leave you if you do

All the more reason to tell her

Definitely tell her, please don't listen to the people in this sub in relationship advice. Congratulations on your marriage, get out of here

Why would he if it never came up? There's no benefit.

Opening up to another person and telling them your secrets and embarrassments is what creates a bond of trust.

Hahaha that depends if the person listening to you isn’t negatively affected by you sharing the worst aspects of your life

And why would previous sexual experience matter in an established relationship? I know this might be an abstract question for someone that sees women as another species, but try.

Because your experiences have an effect on who you are? It’s baffling to me that people like you think someone’s sexual history isn’t an indicator of the type of person someone is.

And "who you are" is clearly a person this guys wife wants to be with, so him having been a virgin before will have 0% negative consequences if he tells her. Probably more like the opposite. You should also read up on what a straw man is before you try using it in a discussion.

Why would he if it never came up? There's no benefit.

Spoken like someone who's never been in a relationship.

Cheers

If she asks repeatedly point blank about sexual history, tell her as little as possible ("it's been a long time" or "there's been no one else"). There's no reason to bring it up though.

When she asked me before about other girlfriends or if I’d been married all I can do was tell her I have been alone so long that I couldn’t remember, and she’d laugh. She never pressed the issue or seemed to care very much. So unless she brings it up I’m not sure it’ll be that important, and it’s been years since it was mentioned - she often says “there’s no future in the past” so that makes me feel a lot mor comfortable.

Yeah if she doesn't care, why dig that hole yourself? Let sleeping dogs lie.

my advice is never to tell her and lie about having prior girlfriends

Good advice tbh.

It's never good advice to tell someone to lie. If she married him she deserves the truth about him. The entire truth. If he's unwilling to be vulnerable with her, then he doesn't deserve her. As she doesn't deserve to be with someone who is going to active withhold relevant personal information. It's a recipe for a shit sandwich of a relationship. Source: have had many relationships, deep as well as superficial, none as rewarding as the relationships in which I was my true honest self.

So what, in a relationship she needs to know about your every experience and you can't have any privacy? IF you could merge brains so she sees all your memories she'd be entitled to it?

This is the only type of relationship I would ever want. "The past is the past" is for filthy normies.

Being able to be completely open about your past with your partner is so freeing, it provides thousands of hours of conversation. If two people really love each other, then even minuscule details about one's own life before getting together will often be fascinating. When I was still with my wife, it felt like all of those memories were just sitting there waiting to be unearthed, begging to be. Planning to spend the rest of one's lives together is one thing, but all of those wasted years unshared? They can't just be forgotten about.

Normies will never know that. Normies will never know what it's like to not have to step around a minefield of breaking that sanctity by avoiding talking about how you totally pumped and dumped Stacy in the girl's bathroom between classes or got drunk and got triple penetrated by a Chadtrio at Chang's house party.

No. In a relationship you're supposed to have trust. And if you're keeping something from her purposely, it's obvious you don't trust her with that information. Which means she absolutely should NOT trust you. That much is demonstrable. You're not deserving of trust when you purposely engage in subterfuge.

There are tons of things I would never want to share with a hypothetical girlfriend, but I don't see in what way would that mean that I would betray her trust..

We're talking about a married couple.

Absolute bullshit. We all have secrets and even if I did get a girl I wouldn't love her any less if she didn't want to share a part of her past with me. As long as the love and trust is there it shouldn't even matter. I only care about the here and now and look forward to the future not the past. And I definitely wouldn't marry her if she didn't feel the same.

Source: you've had a lot of relationships end, thus you are the expert in whether honesty makes a marriage last?

Couples married many years disagree. They'll say you need honesty about important things (values, goals, health, finances) and activities affecting your current life together, but you don't need to share every little detail past and present. Some mystery is good. Most couples tell white lies to keep the peace.

If she asks repeatedly point blank about sexual history, tell her as little as possible ("it's been a long time" or "there's been no one else"). There's no reason to bring it up though.

Every sexual/romantic relationship that I've ever been in has ended, aside from my current one. That's how relationships go. I'm ok with that.

Of course you don't need to share every little detail. But if you've got a fucked up personality because you were chaste (not celibate) for 5 decades, yeah, your S/O should have access to that information.

My point is not that you're some failure. You do you. My point is you don't have experience in making marriages last and so your perspective on what would help OP is irrelevant.

These days many people who have dated a lot give unsolicited LTR advice, even though they have nothing to base it on because they lack LTR experience themselves. You have experience with dating and the early stages. You don't have experience in lasting relationships. Studies show that if you interview couples together 5-10 years (many of whom split later) vs couples together 30 years, you get very different answers about what is needed to make a relationship work. Unless you've been married at least 20 years, we're all rookies here. Let OP do what is right for him.

dont tell her, maybe it all ends

It's over

Good job friend, beware of the IncelTears cucks who'll come saying you're a creep and you're too old for her. You're a beatiful couple.

Thank you. I mean, I am an old creep but I’m a lucky old creep.

Gotta be honest with yourself, lmao.

Yes! And love the username lol

He does have a good name

Yeah, guess I just have to wait until I'm 50 too.

No one was going to say anything until you did. Way to assume, you dumb fuck.

Why would that happen? This man is happy and sharing his happiness with Reddit, why would anyone try to bring him down? You're all too focused on hate and negativity..

Congratulations buddy, you made it. I'm happy for you!

Thanks! I never thought it would happen honestly.

It makes me pretty upset and angry to see an older man dating a young woman; you've taken a woman who would've dated young Chad. Chad now needs to reach lower down the hierarchy and take a Becky, who would have dated a normie, who himself is now dating a 4/10. That 4/10 female would have dated an incel, you've plucked a relationship from his hands with your selfishness. Whatever, you were incel, I can't get too upset.

You're delusional

Explain, you fucking idiot. You brainwashed cretin. Explain exactly what is delusional in that post.

Weird cunt

but he's the incel at the bottom, so really it so works out.

Well.

"just be white" theory confirmed

Yep. Could never happen to a currycel/maghrebicel

Quit bitching and be happy for a comrade who made it out.

You're not wrong. There's something to be said about being white.

She looks ugly like a down syndrome cunt.

she's gorgeous but you keep telling yourself that

that photo is obviously photoshoped. Only a low IQ normie would fall for it

Want more pics of us ? Hah

yeah that would be cool, I'm glad you guys found each other

https://imgur.com/a/iHLUP No idea if this album works or not

you guys are really sweet together <3

:) thank you

what in the actual fuck . . . this is some god damned PROOF. you're a magician to me.

You made my day

OMG her eyes are so gorgeous! And the pic with the garter pulling is so cute. <3

Her eyes are the purest blue I’ve ever seen, she’s gorgeous and kind, and cute. But she’s also got the kindest heart. Thank you! The garter pull made me so nervous I had practiced so many times in my head but in the end it went smoothly enough haha

[LIFE FUEL]

ok seems real but the blackpilled truth is that she married you only because she knows you will die within 10-20 years and she will get all your stuff.

Way to support him.

Well then she can have a nice garage sale and make £300 off my junk, it’ll be worth it

Happy Valentine's day.

How did you get her?

We just became friends through work and eventually she asked me to walk her home, from there we started hanging out after hours and eventually dating, which in itself was insane to me.

She had another man who was in his 30s who was interested in her, that she was sleeping with, as well as an ex in his mid twenties she’d just stopped seeing... now keep in mind she told me this when we were work buddies.

After we started “dating” (I thought we were friends because honestly the thought of dating anyone seemed off the table... but she saw us as dating) ...the 30something guy was a family friend of hers who tried to get very serious with her, and he ended up telling her I was a creep and ran me down and told her to stop hanging out with me, or seeing me, or he would stop speaking to her.

After that, she decided based on my handling of the situation and the fact I didn’t push her and was patient that she wanted to exclusively see me (as if I had anyone else interested... but the thought was flattering)

Take note dudes.

I’m happy for you man.

Thanks bud

Take notes dudes.

Okay, I'll just wait for a girl to ask me to walk her home.

Life fuel.

Thanks mate

Congratulations, if true, dude. As we used to say in OG /r/incels, get out and never return. Hope we never see you again.

Thanks man

We used to say that?

Nope.

I remember we did.

About maybe 1/3 of us did. Good for this guy though.

I hope a lot more of us will be saying it now.

I think that was specific to you.

There is something so oddly heartwarming when I read

get out and never return

So often it's used negatively but here it's more of a "bro" thing.

How did you feel as the years went by and you remained a virgin?

How did you not give up hope of ever finding someone?

I felt like a failure and I hated myself, until eventually I just felt numb to it all... as a teenager I was really angry and I got into fights, I was hated by everyone in primary school and high school and I was bullied (beat, pissed on, had food thrown at me) the point where people learned really quick not to mess with me because I’d beat them. This earned me the nickname “creep” and I literally would have girls turn from me and RUN full speed if I tried to talk to them. I dropped out of school...

I tried to find happiness in other things but they always fell through and I contemplated suicide a lot as a twenty something, then as I got older I played games online and had a friend who told me not to bother killing myself because I’d die one day anyway so I started letting that be my motto, I didn’t care if I died or when, I’d just do what I could to pass my time. And gaming a lot was one of those things, working was one of those things.

It was an unbalanced loneliness for a long time, and I kind of fantasised about being with someone and what it would be like but that just made it worse, I got a dog and found that as lonely as I was I could make a little difference to my mother by pretending to be happy and I distracted myself with video games all of the time. eventually I kind of felt dead inside like a robot. 40s came and went, 50s came, and I realised shit; I’m gonna die alone. But at that point I wasn’t lonely anymore because I’d just given up entirely on anything but making people laugh. Strangers, people at work. And eventually I realised I liked cooking so I got a job doing that. And passing my time by wasting it on tv and games... I’d save and then blow my money on holiday alone. I now feel like I’ve stepped into someone else’s life.

why did everyone hate you?

As he said above he was a bit of an angry prick. No one wants to be around that kind of person.

Holy shit are you a missing the point fucking dope.

Pretty much what the other guy said, I also didn’t shower very often and would wear the same clothing all the time and I’m very immature with my sense of humour, like laughing at my own jokes, and being very blunt to the point it shocked people or upset them. I had no need for tact because nobody extended me that so I didn’t extend it to them and it was a cycle of shit.........and I don’t think a lot of people liked me because of my looks most of all because I scare people, especially because of how I laugh and the faces that I make, and again the anger issues. I’ve worked on my hygiene at least but the poor humour is still there.

its a prostitute guys

Lucky bastard.

I am :)

Just look at this man’s face. Its going to be entirely drained of colour when he hangs himself after that leech has drained his bank account and books it.

let her have the money fuck it who cares at his point he's 50 something and getting laid on the reg

at that point you might as well frequent a better looking prostitute

in my experience prostitutes are ugly af

maybe in vegas it's a goldmine, haven't been

If this is real congrats for making it out man.

I've met a 50+ year old virgin in real life who actually asked ME for advice in getting girls (LMAO), had no clue what I was supposed to tell him but if you live long enough it looks like luck can strike

Haha well hey! Take it from me you never know. Lightning does strike! I’m an old man now, I certainly always envisioned myself keeling over from something and dying alone... and the only love I’d ever of gotten was out of a bioware game or something. Best of luck to you and thanks 🙏

Congrats on the wedding and finding someone.

Thanks buddy

Good luck to you both, many happy years to you.

Thank you!

Good shit fam

:)

You guys are the sweetest!! Congratulations, and I'm so glad you found one another. I wish you all best!

Thank you

dad and daughter?

Of course, if it doesn't work out with this girl, other women will see that you have been validated sexually by a presentable woman, and that will make it easier for you to find new girlfriends.

Because it's almost the next worst thing to being an incel, namely, having a fat and plain-looking woman go around and say that she's an ex-girlfriend of yours, if she's the only notch on your bedpost. It's much better to have reasonably attractive women who can say truthfully they are your ex-girlfriends. Other women will respect you more when they can see that you have had previous relationships with women who don't have the signs of male desperation written on their bodies.

Honestly I don’t have a right to judge anyone by their appearance because it’s not like they choose to be plain or ugly anymore than I choose to be a vile twisted beast of a man... but she’s very beautiful and I’m very lucky and either way I hope things continue to stay positive and I’m going to try my best to make it work. I just wanted an emotional connection more than a physical one as well. And it’s hard to find people who you can connect with, especially people who you can be yourself around.

Georgie, you sir have perhaps the best comment history I have ever come across while lurking. Hysterical, dark and drastically unappreciated as shown by your surprisingly low karma. Congrats on the wifey as well.

Thanks very much! Most people don’t get my type of humour and think I’m a total freak but I’m glad you can appreciate it! Cheers

She is a beauty! I am happy for You, little bit jealous but mostly happy ;)

Thank you, I hope you find happiness too and hang in there

I will hang in. Seeing you guys gave me hope.

Good for you.

May I ask how? She's clearly pretty cute and looks to be twice as young as you. Do you now maybe feel that you clearly did have some appeal to women as a man and you've wasted many years not capitulizing on it?

He said it in the comments.

idk from the story he left in the comments it sounds like other women literally ran screaming from the dude.. how does this happen?

the girl probably happens to have a thing for older people. For the sake of OP she doesn't have alterior motives.

Some girls have like a genetic preference that makes them appreciate the same type of man as their mum did. But this is kind of weird. I can't imagine her having a normal relation with both her parents. Still, when life offers you something good, you take it.

Damn dude, miracles do happen it seems.

He’s a kind man who made a friend that developed into more. It’s not a miracle, it’s extremely commonplace and a possibility for all of you.

Mail order brides don't count. She'll leave once she's taken all your money and obtained citizenship wherever you live

She’s a British citizen as well so that won’t be an issue and I live paycheck to paycheck

A cheer to a brother who has ascended from this shithole! Now go, and don’t look back!

You are my hero!

good job cuck, you got chad's sloppy seconds.

i looked through all the pics OP posted and now .. im kind of numb... but theres hope i guess.. ... because of the head proportions of OP compared to his wife... wife is a solid 6.5-7 and OP is a 2... and the comments make it seem like it could be genuine... could there be hope? is OP tall? cant tell by pic...

I’m shorter than average and it’s been a problem my whole life

I'm on of the beta normie cucks and I don't think you're a creep. as long as you're both happy, who cares what someone else thinks.

Thanks

I doubt you were ever an incel to begin with. Noone loses his virginity after 21 unles she hires a hooker of course

tell that to this picture lol... hes wors ...he must be loaded................

Hmm, he has better head shape and jaw than a lot of incels here though.

Hmm, he has better head shape and jaw than a lot of incels here though. He's also has hair and is not bald.

You’re funny, but yes she does love Disney. And she’s the belle to my beast.

Congratulations, I hope one day I can experience love like that. Really happy for you!

I hope you can too brother, and you’ve gotta believe you will, Cheers!

How did you meet?

We both work at the same place and that is how we met. Otherwise we did see each other at the pub a few times, well i saw her there but never talked to her.

You are an average looking guy and you are not skinny. So remind us why you were an incel in the first place? I have seen tons of guys much uglier than you with better looking girlfriends. You are not skinny: being too skinny is the only cause of inceldom. I am MUCH better looking than you, but because I was skinny, a girl like the one you are posing with would NEVER give me a chance. As soon as I gained some weight I immediately got attention. But I am still an incel because I am having trouble meeting girls: I have tried for the past 6 months to meet girls but it just doesn't happen, met like 3/4 and none worked out, and online dating is 80/20 and I am not 8/10 so it doesn't work. How/where on earth did you meet this girl?

I'm 5'6" and 110 lbs and I've had sex with 3 separate girls in the past month. not everything exists as a binary. skinny people can be attractive

How old were the girls?

college students, 20 - 22. my only point is that girls are attracted to a range of body types, and being short or skinny in no way disqualifies you. obviously you still have to be attractive, but you don't have to be a Chad.

Bullshilt. 20 is way too old. You are fucking landwhales or fugly bitches.

proof

this girl is 18

I look like this for reference

It is not because you were skinny, it must be your crap personality or some other character trait. Plenty of skinny guys manage to get chicks but whatever works for you buddy, if you want to comfort yourself with some bs lame excuse about women not liking skinny dudes them go for it.

sounds like you're kind of a cunt.

A couple gets married and this is your reaction. Ick. Cease your jealousy.

Congratulations man! Hope you enjoy your new found happiness! :)

She’s beautiful in ways I never thought possible, and ways that are plain to see. Thank you. I’m a happy chap!

Enjoy your happiness man. This made me smile :)

Stop, you can get out of this before it is too late. A femoid of that age is obviously an inadequate partner. Why else would she be unmarried for so long? The only reason you have been is because females can marry whoever they like due to their attractive traits such as pheromones and their wide swaying hips. Id suggest you ditch her as soon as possible.

🤢

Wot,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

volcel, your staff is broken

Excellent job looking at the camera.

Probably his daughter or niece.

What sort daughter/niece dresses in a wedding gown and poses affectionately for their dad/uncle?

Good man! Godspeed brother.

what a lovely couple , you guys are very cute toghether i wish you the best , now never return

:)

you're pretty much a male model next to me, you were never a truecel

The only thing worse than being a virgin is having only 1 notch on your bedpost.

LOLz the ultimate pessimist

That’s just awesome. I’m really happy for you both! And congratulations.

Thank you

you mog me tbh

Moogle.

You were not an incel, you had bdd. That's something I wish I had. Tall and not ugly.

Trust me I wish it was bdd ... I’mnot that short but not that tall either and uglier than a half rotten corpse that’s been left to turn to jerky in the sun... it comes from within yourself though I think the way I carry myself changed when I stopped hating so much , good luck to you

Damn dude, awesome. Congrats.

Ngl, thought this was a meme or something before I opened this thread. Good to see it's serious.

Life fuel.

:)

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Nice one

Old ugly dusty ass 56 year old man gets a young, blonde haired blue eyed girl?

Just be white theory confirmed.

Its either the money or something else. Never have I seen this combo without an ulterior motive involved. Id give it a year to three mac before she sucks him dry and is off to the next. Good luck, I hope im wrong :)

Well I don’t have money and really don’t have anything to offer, but I’m past the point of asking why because I’ve accepted I’ll never understand it either way.

Haha dude you look like a demon from hell. Mazel Tov!

I always picture demons to look badass, but danke!!!

You look like her homeless dad who developed a crack addiction

I look like a homeless junkie who spent his youth doing meth and rolling around in the dirt wearing unwashed clothing... I was often told I looked like I had Down syndrome or was mildly brain damaged so honestly what you said sounds like a compliment at this point lol... I don’t know what she sees in me but I’ll never understand it

She probably is in that “older guys are so hot” (but taken to an extreme) phase

Yay!!!! This makes me happy, and your bonus album is adorable!

Thanks man

Did you pray to St BlackOps2cell ?

How come her face is bright and yours is dark?

Who took the photo?

Is this a photochop? (just joking)

Well done !

I was thinking this 50 year old fuck looks really young for his age. Then I realized it’s because he’s never had to deal with a woman

Now this moron gets some Welsh thug’s scraps and is gonna get brutally cheated on and cucked in the next year and he’s gonna age faster than Obama did after one term

I was thinking this 50 year old fuck looks really young for his age. Then I realized it’s because he’s never had to deal with a woman

Now this moron gets some Welsh thug’s scraps and is gonna get brutally cheated on and cucked in the next year and he’s gonna age faster than Obama did after one term

Whatever happens happens, but thank you for saying I loom young. I’ve had to deal with a lot of women in my life using me so at this point as an old man nothing can shock me anymore but I’m pretty confident now and I trust her with all that I am, even if it’s not a lot.

Just be careful dude

MandingoForWhites, you're an asshole.

Can no one here tell this is clearly photoshopped?

There’s a whole album I posted of us together, but yeah she’s beautiful enough to make it look like a picture of a cheaply made ogre pasted in with an unsuspecting girl ... I don’t blame you lol

Dude, I honestly want to be happy for you (despite the fact you're a part of the incel community), I really do. Everyone deserves happiness, and maybe you're one funny sonuvabitch in such a way that legit makes you appear more physically attractive. You seem to be a good tempered and good humored guy, from what I can see of your posts. However look at the harshness of the outline of your shoulder, and the blur where your face meets hers. Also, there is not a shadow on your face where there should be, if she was truly in front of you and the light was coming from where it appears to be in the picture. Can I at least ask to see the other album? Cuz honestly I'd be pumped to be proved wrong, haha.

Congratulations, this stranger wishes you all the best, and many years of happiness with your wife <3 Please cherish her and i hope she does the same :-)

Thank you so much. I honestly feel very fortunate to have met someone who was nice enough to treat me as an equal. All I want to do from here on out his work on being a better person, not just for her but for myself. I feel everyone is worthy of a baseline respect and I met someone who has the same view, and that could look past my ugly face and see the pain behind it, and she helped me to realise maybe I was more than just my pain. I’ve not met many people who I can say are kinder, and beautiful inside and out. But I know now they’re out there if we give people a chance.

Congratulations Georgie.

I have a question for you and please be straightforward. What do you think an incel changes in his mentality to succeed ?

Well for me at least as I can only talk from personal experience.. it took me years because I feel like I was conditioned both by myself and environmental factors to expect things if I saw other people getting them. I expected respect at work or school, and a common decency because that’s what movies make you think. But Reality is not so kind. That’s what normies don’t get.

I hated the world because the world hated me. Not subtly either, it was abuse. From my family, women. I didn’t understand why women “got away with so much” and I honestly felt a lot of my issues toward women due to my own mother and her views on men. I have a couple of sisters and being the only male I was always expected to clean up and do everything for the females in my life just because I was “stronger”. Even though I had horrible pain and medical issues I never got taken to a doctor or attention from anyone, especially women, but all my female family did...my own pain or medical conditions always got pushed aside for “women” who took advantage of me. and I grew up in an environment which made me feel like my anger was unacceptable yet it was OK when my female relatives did it.

I had a lot of females who friend zoned me ONLINE, but mostly women just wouldn’t talk to me, even in college I got accused of being creepy just when I would look at someone or smile. Women hated me, so Chads hated me more, to impress them. It was a lack of socialising in my youth that made it nearly impossible for me to even begin to understand how to work on the problem. Online friends / girls hated me without seeing my looks because I was a dick but didn’t want to change my behaviour. I wanted the world to just treat me like a normal person. But it never happened.

Even my friends made fun of me behind my back (friends I use loosely as people who talked to me without ignoring me completely) caught attacking me and accusing me of giving off a “homosexual vibe” just because of my humour or sense of dressing. This lead me to been reading lots of things that were pretty much from a one sided perspective that fueled the anger I felt. My male friends (online) were all in the same boat... people at work offered to buy me hookers, and when I said I wanted a connection I got made fun of more. I never would have met anyone if she hadn’t walked into my workplace because I never left the house other than to work because I was so scared. I got catfished online a few times ... and distant online people fed me things like “you have a great personality!” And that someone was gonna be very lucky one day and that type of comment made me angrier and angrier to the point where I ended up shutting myself off from every person that I knew until I was basically a shut in, even antisocial on games.

Because women treated me like a monster i started to feel like I shouldn’t bother being anything other than what they thought me to be because there’s no point trying to be nice only to be used or ghosted... after decades I spent getting me nothing and nowhere. So I just isolated myself and dissociated until finally I reached a point at nearly fifty that I needed to let go of my anger and stop blaming women and realise it’s less to do with gender as it is to do with shitty people. Most people are shitty. Everyone has their own ideology that supports a reason for them to continue to be shitty, but in the end it made me just as shitty as the shitty women and men who I hated...

So I tried to find joy. This was after a suicide attempt, I got a dog and my dog made me realize I did deserve love because the dog didn’t care how creepy or weird I was or how ugly I am, the dog liked my company. I think that helped me a lot. From there it was easy to find a little bit of peace, enough to motivate me to work on my own happiness as a forever alone single guy... because life has a lot to offer, even without love. And finally when I reached that point, my outlook slowly changed, and it took ONE person, my amazing wife (pinch me) to show me that not everyone is bad. And not everyone judges people by their outer skin. Just most people do. I happened to meet an exception. If I never met her, I think I’d still be OK. Because I found my own happiness inside.

I hope this helps someone else. Sorry this is long!!!

Thank you, that was an interesting read.

No problem thanks! Just trying to answer everyone’s questions

Georgie is a very attractive man. Those laughing eye creases, and the lovely hair. Not handsome at all but most attractive.

That’s very kind of you to say,

Oh and lovely kind eyes. A happy face is more attractive than a good looking one. I get him. And I get why she gets him. I bet the only reason georgie was ever incel was because he was low, depressed, childish about women and a loner. As soon as he grew up and found something he loved, cooking, and was happier in himself, along came the right gal.

Yeah very true, I was not a very pleasant person to be around because I was so angry at everything else, even when I should have been focusing on how I could improve myself. I hate my face and I can’t change it. I have horrible teeth and I’m balding, but I can’t do anything about it, but I could change certain habits... I went from being severely underweight as a teenager to overweight in my 30s. I then was diagnosed with IED... and it took me a long time to get help. Whenever I tried dating or talking to anyone I’d be laughed at and called ogre a lot. I finally lost the excess weight about 7 years ago. I think that helped me not to hate myself as much. I was an unpleasant dick. I’m still immature but I’m trying to change my outlook and be less of a selfish person.

Not gonna lie man, your face is actually really cool. There's a ruggedness to it with the balding and the smile/teeth that makes you look rough but in an attractive way. If I looked like you I'd be happy about it.

Good job man. Happy for you.

Also...

Normie OUT REEEEEEEEE

Cute chick. Just be white theory confirmed.

This honestly looks like a pedo/rape scene from a movie. Nasty.

aye boi this girl hot af if this is true good for you bud ❤️

WOW MAN JUST WOW

Gotta be honest with yourself, lmao.

Yeah, guess I just have to wait until I'm 50 too.

yeah that would be cool, I'm glad you guys found each other

How tall are you?

at that point you might as well frequent a better looking prostitute

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Why would he if it never came up? There's no benefit.

Cheers

Nice one

Moogle.

I hope you can too brother, and you’ve gotta believe you will, Cheers!

I’m shorter than average and it’s been a problem my whole life