true

Eery how accurately this is describing my life (minus the 30+ one).

Imagine being woman and knowing that basically nothing you do has any real consequences.

Yeah b-but at least men can pee standing up! right???

... Well. This comment made me want to kill myself over the hopelessness.

No real consequences.

What the fuck dude.

Are you a woman?

Nope.

dang WAHMEN

Right okay.

I'm pretty sure you're completely and totally wrong and there are prisons full of women to tell you as much but ok. Keep living in your weird bubble.

Female prisons are more like social clubs. They should end the discrimination and put females and men in the same prison.

Nigga. No.

Uh. No they shouldn't.

why not? men and women are the same?

CHECKMATE FEMINISTS.

Men get significantly harsher punishments than women for the same crimes.

Imagine being an incel shrouded in self pity and delusions of women being treated as perfect creatures

Imagine being a woman and knowing that you can have sex anytime you want without all the bullshit involved if you're a man.

simp?

You shoulda left it blank on the incel side , after 25 years old , after the suicide pic LOL

CAN WE PLEASE GET LEGAL EUTHANASIA.

and legal prostitution

Tax breaks for incels as well.

we should get a basic income guarantee

for paying for said prostitutes

COPE. You know VERY WELL that you can end this TODAY by going to highest building and jumping down headfirst, yet you conveniently avoid doing this like the little beta coping bitch you are. You just want attention. Asking for euthanasia is just screaming at normies: "I'm HURTING, please, PLEASE pay attention to me". If you weren't a little bitch, you'd just end your suffering in silence.

Then people see your splattered corpse and judge you. At least with a lethal injection you die with some dignity.

Nice cope.

Normies and women nowhere to be seen. Normies becuase they realised they identify with the pics on the right. Women because they realise we are right.

Wut, I'm working but still getting laid. It's not that hard.

I don't identify with anything on the left side (except having a phone). I've never had a guy approach me at my locker, never worn a bikini, never went to parties in college, never had (or want) kids, etc.

I'm a woman. I relate to the right more than the left. Both of them are completely unreasonable representations of "average life."

You had a choice. You chose the life you lead, we didn't.

I'm not really sure I sympathize for your lack of choice to be a complete degenerate.

According to this chart I'm living the incel life.

Well yeah... op left out the delusion, mental illness, self-pity and misplaced rage typical of the average incel.

I still tick more on the incel than roastie side. Guess that makes me a... standard teenager.

if you're a teen you have hope but we won't know for sure if you're an incel unless you get thru the 20s and never have sex

Guess we'll just have to see. Though I feel like getting asked out as a joke is a pretty bad sign for me.

that is a bad sign. if you are getting bullied your mind is getting super stressed during a prime time when it is growing and developing and that will hurt your social skills for your entire life, becoming a self fulfilling prophecy and you'll be an incel.

Yeah, thankfully the worst of my bullying is over. It more or less went from 8-12 at the worst of it. Now most of my friends just sometimes ignore me or refuse to hang out.

mr. moneybags over here has friends

Don't you?

well just online fellow incels. ok so I do I guess, technically.

Oh, I'm sorry for bringing it up then.

The path of the Incel is a self-fulfilling prophecy. They practically guarantee they have no friends by being bitter toxic little shut-ins. Incels even turn on each other to try and prove who is the most incel, its quite pathetic. Further, most "incels" are volcels who don't realize it. Not trying is not the same as not able. And most incels will only go for "stacies", somehow believing the world owes them stacies. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Guess I'll be fine as long as I keep trying then.

Suggesting that most girls 12-16 have had intercourse with three guys is absolutely retarded.

It's not much of a stretch in 2018 to be frank. You'd be delusional to think otherwise.

It's not unreasonable, as long as they're all boyfriends it's not seen as particularly slutty or anything. Most of the girls I grew up with had been through multiple bfs by 16.

It absolutely is completely unreasonable. The average age that girls lose their virginity is 17, with the average age for guys being slightly younger.

Having sex with women doesn't count for incidences. If anything, being gay allowed me to grow up around girls in a much more natural and frank environment. Idk, maybe it's wrong of me to cite my personal sample as being a somewhat reasonable assumption. However, I do think it's not unreasonable to encounter in a densely populated, more dymamic urban environmemt (where I grew up).

It isn't even an indictment. For a lot of guys on here obviously it would be, since they'd call them whores for it, but for me it just is what it is. Girls for whom having a bf isn't stigmatised will find them easily enough, and sex is just a natural consequence to a relationship. Most girls I grew up with didn't sleep around, but that didn't mean they didn't have multiple bfs/sexual partners. Also, a lot of girls will lie about/understate their sexual experience for fear of social stigma. Personally, what the incel culture has made me realise most is the need for honesty in the realm of sex/romance, and even beyond.

And before you bring in the point of "being honest would only lead to shaming", the whole point is if everyone were to actually come forward and be open, there wouldn't be any shame. Then I suppose we could move to the next stop of figuring out how things go from there.

If anything, being gay allowed me to grow up around girls in a much more natural and frank environment.

I've had plenty of male, gay friends. We act mostly the same around you as we do male, straight friends. A key thing you're missing: yes, most girls have had multiple boyfriends at that age. But they haven't slept together. I agree that it's likely less uncommon in certain populations, but the fact is that most girls haven't even slept with one guy yet by 16, let alone three.

I promise I'm not being dishonest. I'm just trying to get a word in edgewise among a bunch of adult men projecting hypersexuality onto young girls.

I mean, they do have somewhat of a habit of exaggeration I'll agree, but I think that's just more for effect. In any case I can see where you're coming from, but yeah idk I think what bothers me is more the fact that people keep insisting there's no shame in sexuality, yet constantly react to discussion of sexuality as if there were.

When you're taught how to put condoms on at school at the age of 12, told about lube for anal, and all sort of other things, sexual activity has to be common enough to warrant it.

What kind of logic is that? You think the whims of a PTA are going to be guided by divine truth? No, they're just paranoid. You can believe statistics, you can believe my lived experiences, or you can believe yourself and your assumptions. Choose whichever you'd like, just know that you're wrong (and kinda gross).

Statistics are entirely reliant on samples. Where were these samples gathered, and by whom? What was the sample size? What was the population being measured? All these are relevant in their interpretation. You can't just cite statistics without giving the full picture.

Also, why is it for you they're lived experiences, and for me they're assumptions? Also what makes me gross, exactly? That I think teenagers have sex? I mean, it's what I grew up with. I was very normal, I don't see that big deal. The way you use words like hypersexuality etc for someone with like 3 sexual partners at age 16 makes me think you come from a pretty conservative background or something. Jesus.

You said it, man.

I don't know fam, the average normie at my school was having sex in 8th grade.

Not every school is in a prim and proper upper middle class suburban district like yours was. Check your privilege.

please kill me

Normie Reaction:

12-16: Yep that's all girls I know. They have friends. That is INDEED a fact.

16-20: That does look like a 20 year old. All women. Yep. Absolutely every single one. EVERYONE ELSE WHO SAYS OTHERWISE IS A FILTHY NORMIE.

20-25: Every girl flashes her tits, well known fact.

25+: Dunno why this isn't labeled "25-30" but whatever. I don't even understand the disses here but whatever.

30+: Women having families and boyfriends is... wrong. Of course. Date the frog man, women. Date the frog man.

No self pity detected /s

Normies are so impossibly banal. Whenever I see a post like this, a boring observational comment with a single layer of meaning, I feel like I'm witnessing some kind of performance art, a satire or a critique of the dull normie brain.

Incels are so consistently trivial. All they care about is feeling superior and yet complaining about how the world has rejected them. The best of them seek self pity where there is none deserved, the worst of them turn into philosophers who fancy themselves intelligent because they think jokes are stupid. Basically, you ARE r/iamverysmart.

Incels have failed at living a fulfilling life and seek a way of coping with their existence. I dont see much wrong with that tbh. I find it very hard to understand why people take so much offence in their existence and small online groups. Im ethnic and i dont give a single fuck about KKK or racist websites. Not ever would i go there regulary or visit sites/subreddits that mock them. Incels are even less bad since they are in a minority, unhappy as fuck, and just want to cope. Plus 99,9% of them are invisible irl despite of their offensive behaviour ONLINE. Unlike racist fucks who bullshit things everywhere they are and arent isolated as much.

Then how can you possibly find things wrong people who are still trying to live a fulfilling life?

As for why people take offense, it may be due to the endless sexism, self-pity, and other little shitty things this sub does on the daily.

And... no, you don't just "want to cope". Your people regularly go out and make fun of people for no god damned reason. Chasing Chad is now such a common insult to encounter on, say, dating websites. Your people are out there fucking up good things. KKK isn't.

Not to mention the fact that incels make it about race pretty god damned often.

The concept of "chad" isnt exclusive to incels. Besides, im honestly trying to understand why anyone would give a fuck about some of your other points. I cant imagine anyone in my social circle who would care more about reddits incels than racists.

I can understand the offense taken on sexism. However, it's incels expressing the sexism; this makes it very hard for me, and probably most people, to care. Especially with how ridiculous some of it is and the reasons that cause it.

We both understand each others propositions now, so there is that.

Yeah. I suppose there is that. My only thing to add is that my point is that Reddit's incels are more active than most racists, more of a widespread idea, and more accessible. It is much easier to put this sort of thing to rest, or at least attempt to, than, say, the KKK.

Are you serious lol? Incels are rare and invicible. Racists are everywhere and cause damage in the real world outside of the reddit safe space.

Incels have a concentrated online community where anyone can anonymously combat their ideologies after a simple sign-up to Reddit.

Racists do not have that.

Their ideologies? That being what, that they are virgins? Are you fucking trolling?

Your people

I wonder, do you actually envision us as a single, black monolith buzzing, shitposting and hating women in the cyberspace?

I think the answer is already obvious.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/d/d3/Ankh_Triarch.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120922040712

The Ankh of the Triarch? Not sure if I'm following (not much of a Warhammer guy tbh :/)

Yes. Nekrons. They like monoliths a lot.

So are users like this to be called “Normkrons“ now?

I'll show myself out

I'd say that's how they see us but sure, why not. Also works.

No. I envision those of you who do that as that. Your people refers to that idea. Most of the people here are just decent guys down on their luck, I've said it time and time again. I mean YOUR people.

I find it really fucking sad that you enter these spaces then fucking berate people for "self-pity" as if someone forced you to come here. How much of a fucking piece of shit do you need to be to come into a fucking space for other people to vent then TELL THEM TO STOP FUCKING VENTING. LOL. Am I being fucking trolled? You can't be a real person. Nobody is this much of a fucking cunt.

Chasing Chad is now such a common insult to encounter on, say, dating websites.

This puts a big smile on my face

That does look like a 20 year old. All women. Yep. Absolutely every single one. EVERYONE ELSE WHO SAYS OTHERWISE IS A FILTHY NORMIE.

That does look like a 20 year old. All incels. Yep. Absolutely every single one. EVERYONE ELSE WHO SAYS OTHERWISE IS A FILTHY INCEL.

Just saying, your subreddit started it lol.

16-20: That does look like a 20 year old. All women. Yep. Absolutely every single one.

Every normie falls into strawman arguments. All normies. Yep. Absolutely every single one. They're all the type of people who'd protest to their professor about reading Aesop's Fables, saying, "This is all white patriarchal sterotyping against various animals, foxes, turtles, monkeys, etc. As if every fox would act that way, as if."

First note. You're the one saying that here. My parody must have wooshed you. Oof.

Second note. Why are you reading Aesop's Fables with your professor, exactly?

well then maybe you guys should just become homosexuals then

cuckoldry and faggotry is inceltears specialty. No thanks.

if incels are so salty about women, why not download grindr and find a cute twink/trap?

um, because were not gay?

Well if someone like Chris-chan can get pussy, why can't you?

If someone like donald trump can become president, why cant you?

The thing is anyone has the capability to run for president. The ability to run a successful campaign is another story.

If you want to get laid, do three of the following things:

Start taking care of your body by working out and ect.

Learn to become more outgoing

Pursue a socialable hobby

Why the fuck are you giving Chris-chan as an example?

many do

The whole roastie thing is so weird. Even if you guys did have a chance to have sex you wouldn't because you feel so insecure about any other man that is probably superior to you in most ways that she's been with.

How's the therapy and depression going?

Pretty damn well, Suzy

Good, I'm happy for you.

Thanks babe

Being in a relationship with someone who has been in a relationship before with someone more attractive than you is being cucked. No. I don't want to be used for money by some girl who has fucked half the country.

Being cucked? Kink shaming...

Anyway yeah thanks for proving my point that you're just terrified of the idea of trying to live up to the expectations of any women except one who has no frame of reference to compare your sorry ass to.

I mean yes. If you're a degenerate you should be ashamed. Moving on.

I'm not terrified at all. I have almost no emotions on the subject. I just know that, if a woman doesn't find you attractive, all she can possibly want from you is money. That's not fear that's rationality

That wasn't what we were talking about. We were talking about y'all being too chickenshit to fuck anything except a virgin even if given the chance.

Incels can only ever plausibly have sex when they are being used for material resources. Therefore the actual cost to us of sex is to be used for money. Obviously we would all have a one night stand if we could but that is a pointless scenario to consider seeing as it is physically impossible.

Yeah that's right. Justify your sad little notions with scenarios of gold diggers you've never been with.

I mean after speaking to me can you really say I have anything worthwhile except the money I earn?

I don't know you so obviously not

Life's a bitch yes it fucking is. Now even if you had been not as lucky as other people it shouldn't be an excuse to dive into self pity and hate of "more lucky people" 'cause this will lead you nowhere and this will ruin the lifetime you have left. I'm not saying you shouldn't be angry I'm saying you should use this anger as fuel. Stacy is partying with her friends while you have none ? Then spend this time studying to get a good job wich will allow to rule over the people you despise. Chad is humiliating you daily and make Stacies laugh ? Then go to the gym and build yourself a body and a pride.

You can hate you can envy, but do it cleverly.

anger as fuel

Have you ever actually done it? It does give you drive but it burns you inside when you use it like that. Trust me, you'll feel more hollow and all your achievements will amount to nil once what you thought was you will turn into a husk of your former self.

It's called being a fighter When you're overwhelmed by injustice or when your projection in the mirror makes you wanna cry, you feel angry, you have to. Sure you change from who you were before but is it a bad thing ? You're simply more adapted to your environment, plus we're speaking about incels here so yeah, being a "monster" is still better than being a pathetic necessary victim of the world.

That's not what I'm asking.

If I personally followed this philosophy ? Kind of. When I envied something so much or when I couldn't bear anymore a part from me, I felt angry about myself. And this energy drived me to do as much as I could to change according to the person I wanted to be. And no I didn't feel null after that, on the contrary I felt pride for erasing the part of me I hated. And people here seems to use this energy by blaming others and self deprecating themselve, by listening them it's like they have control over nothing and that suicide is the only way, this isn't true.

Chad always wins. You work hard everyday and out the hours in? Chad will become manager in six months because people like him. Then he'll fire you because he feels like it. There is no winning. Rope is the only way.

You sound like you got life all figured out, thing is you don't. None of us actually, smarter people than me and you changed their mind trought time and oscillated to depression from joy again and again while at every time, genuinely thinking they were right. Give life the benefit of the doubt, keep trying to be objective instead of drowning into self pity, I'm not sure about anything, as I said I'm as dumb as you but man, it has to be something else out there, it gotta to be.

Talking to an attractive woman irl is the most jarring thing. They project nothing but optimism and positivity, most likely they have never been mistreated by anyone in their life and have been greeted with nothing but warm smiles everywhere they go. Life must be really pleasant when you're not subhuman

Jesus, if I thought this is how reality worked Id be depressed too. Luckily it doesn't.

I'm just aiming to rope before 30. At the moment I still enjoy getting drunk with friends. Eventually that will go and I'll end it. But for the moment I'll enjoy the sesh.

This is amazing I love this sub. What's worse is this is pretty accurate.

So the average woman will have sex with 75 different men in their lifetime. I call bullshit.

i really want to rope it already (23 here).

Sadly accurate. I’ve always been the quiet guy with no friends and would always get clowned on at school. No one wanted yo sit to me on the bus or at lunch. No one wanted to be my partner in group activities. I never participated in school activities (school dances, going to football games, prom, etc) But played videogames to cope. Only friends I had were on Xbox, and I always wanted to be the only child so my parents can spoil me. But now I’m thankful I have a brother because he is the only one I talk to and trust.

Well if you spent your life that way that’s your fault.

This is fucking depressing as fuck

Well if someone like Chris-chan can get pussy, why can't you?

Yes. Nekrons. They like monoliths a lot.

What kind of logic is that? You think the whims of a PTA are going to be guided by divine truth? No, they're just paranoid. You can believe statistics, you can believe my lived experiences, or you can believe yourself and your assumptions. Choose whichever you'd like, just know that you're wrong (and kinda gross).