For Chads only. We'd get fined and/or arrested for sexual harassment just by looking. Chad can go up, be a sexist shit, grope her and she'd still ride his dick.
Yeah they did for catcalling. It's only a matter of time before they round us incels and beta cucks up in concentration camps. This is why we need the beta uprising to happen, it's for our own survival.
How do you reach the stones to throw while you’re fucking the camel? Also, does the camel have to be a virgin or do y’all just line up? I feel like there must be a line since there’s nothing else to do in Islamic countries except fuck camels and maybe sell a banana here and there. Either way, you’d be too busy to do any stoning.
What you don't see: she spends 6 hours a week at the gym. She spends $100-200 a month on hair/skin/make up products. She keeps to a pretty strict eating regiment to stay healthy. She spent and hour and a half getting ready before coming out; shaving, primping, doing her hair and make up. She works fucking hard to be able to have the confidence and ass to bounce around like that.
You incels start doing the same, and then let me know how life changes.
All that effort to get some Chad dick what a struggle. What a hard life. Working out? Buying makeup products? And here I though I had it bad being invisible at best and treated with disgust at worst.
Yes. I actually do spend 6 days a week in the gym. Sometimes 7. Unlike femoids I don’t do it to impress Chad I do it because I like it and I feel good.
And no, Chad doesn’t do this stuff. It’s purely optional for him. As long as face looks good and he’s not obese Chad can walk around in ratty gym clothes every day and pick up women. I’ve seen it with my own eyes.
Do you spend an hour at the gym 6 days a week and spend money on products/clothes to help you look nice?
Does she? We're going off complete speculation here and you're judging people based off of it. Plenty of women look like her with little to no effort, it's called genetics, to think otherwise means you are blind or don't go outside.
She spends $100-200 a month on hair/skin/make up products.
Makeup isn't socially acceptable for men.
She keeps to a pretty strict eating regiment to stay healthy.
So do I and I workout 5-6 times a week
She spent and hour and a half getting ready before coming out; shaving, primping, doing her hair and make up.
Don't need to shave because I can't grow facial hair. My hair is horrible and nothing can be done about it although I try to style it every day. Again, make up is not allowed for men.
She works fucking hard to be able to have the confidence and ass to bounce around like that.
Yep I'm sure she does. It's definitely completely her doing and has nothing to do with genetics. I'm sure she does more than every incel or ugly guy in the world to try and look good. If only we worked as hard as her.
You spend over 10 hours a week in the gym, and you don't have a healthy looking body? How long have you been doing it? If it's been a long term habit, then you're not using the gym right.
Also, make up isn't acceptable, but skin care, hair care, and nice clothes are.
Yes. People in the military often suffer in silence because it can cost them their jobs. It's a huge problem. The military itself doesn't even deny it. The stupid logic they tell troops is, "Please speak up. We'd rather fire you and get you mental help than you stay in and eventually kill yourself."
If you admit to someone you're depressed you aren't staying around much longer, especially if you've said the s-word.
You spend over 10 hours a week in the gym, and you don't have a healthy looking body? How long have you been doing it? If it's been a long term habit, then you're not using the gym right.
It's been about 4 months now that I've been doing it seriously. The past 3 years before this I would say it was closer to 5 hours a week(and about 12 hours a week of wrestling practice that would completely destroy any chance I had at bulking up because I would lose several pounds each time. Last year coach had me cut down to 108 pounds, I was 5'11" at the time. Decided to quit this year). My body is healthy(I rarely get sick and I'm physically in good shape), just on the skinny side(I'm like 5-10% BF naturally, kinda weird). I have a 6 pack and my arms look ok but I gain muscle really slowly so I look like a fucking string bean because I'm 6' tall and weigh ~145 pounds.
Also, make up isn't acceptable, but skin care, hair care, and nice clothes are.
I have skin care products and I use shampoo and have clay to style my hair. My hair is just really fine and it doesn't ever look good no matter what I do.
From what you're describing, if you do have a healthy looking body, and a decent personality, I don't see why you wouldn't be able to get a date with a woman like this. Since your life styles are similar, which is my whole point.
I don't think any girl wants to date a guy who looks like he's 12 and can't even grow facial hair. Maybe it is my personality, but I've met a lot of assholes with girlfriends that lead me to believe otherwise.
Not an incel, but I have a relatively fit body and a decent personality. No women with a body like that would ever date me, leagues are still a thing. She probably wants a "Chad" (I hate that term), but I don't blame her for that. She can get someone super attractive, why would (or should) she settle for less?
You incels start doing the same, and then let me know how life changes.
Please die in a fire. We have many gymcels here, I personally workout about 10 hours a week. I count every gram I eat to make sure I stay at around 10-11% body fat. I'm fully body shaved and use many different ointments and creams to make my skin as good looking as possible. I easily spend more than 200$ on clothes a month.
You have no idea how hard it is to pickup girls as a man.
Always seems to be something. Some guys say it's height. Some say it's their jaw line. Some say it's their inability to grow a beard. Some say it's their body fat. Yet you see women with short men, men without prominent jaws, hairless men, and chubby men literally all the time.
It couldn't be personality or incompatibility could it? No, it makes much more sense that all women on planet earth are the same.
Uh. I look fairly middle of the road, and come from a middle class background, so it's not like I'm super suave, or super flush with cash. I've never had it hard picking up girls, because I just acted sociable, and as soon as a girl wasn't interested, I moved on to the next until one was, and then we went from there.
I eventually met my wife by just chatting her up, and just enjoying talking with her as a person until it moved to the next stage.
Picking up girls is fucking easy if you don't over think it, and don't stress out about it.
What you don't see: she spends 6 hours a week at the gym. She spends $100-200 a month on hair/skin/make up products. She keeps to a pretty strict eating regiment to stay healthy. She spent and hour and a half getting ready before coming out; shaving, primping, doing her hair and make up. She works fucking hard to be able to have the confidence and ass to bounce around like that.
You incels start doing the same, and then let me know how life changes.
One of the best posts in this section.
She's young and she's happy...but of course an incel has a problem with this.
As a non-incel, I came here from someone linking this sub, and noticed it's a lot less toxic than the original once. It seems like it's trying to become more of a place for incels to talk, discuss things about being incel, and possibly work on not being an incel, or learning to accept it.
The issue, however, is that starting a discussion about how women are vapid, shallow, stupid, and/or cum dumpsters to "chads" doesn't actually pertain to anything incel. It just makes you all look really fucking stupid that you apparently want sex from people you constantly shit talk, then wonder why they don't suck your dick; spoiler alert, most people (not just women) aren't going to want to talk to you if you're exuding some type of burning resentment towards them.
Yes, there are bitchy women out there who are hot, know they're hot, and go for the hot bad boy idiots... guess what? They're NOT women you want to be in a relationship with, and i can tell you this from personal experience. Know why they go for the douchbags? Because they're also douchbags, and they'll make you miserable.
Tl;Dr - Complaining that women are horrible makes you sound like you're voluntarily, not involuntarily, celebate.
It's not brigading. Someone mentioned the sub, and I just came to check it out. No one suggested I come here, and certainly no one encouraged trolling / shaming.
As I said, a lot of the threads I initially saw weren't anything crazy. Furthermore, I like talking to people who are struggling being a virgin, especially when they are young, because I didn't lose my virginity until I was 19 and I was a real bitch about it, and had to overcome a lot of issues and insecurities internally before I became appealing to the opposite sex.
I'm not letting myself off the hook. You reply to incels who haven't even done anything wrong and accuse them of living in their mothers basement, being a failure at college, etc and it's utterly ridiculous. You don't even know them and you're just making these huge assumptions about them.
I'm not talking about everyone else, I'm talking about you. I don't know what posts you're referring to, but I said I don't look at random people on the street and say "oh yeah he's definitely a loser."
That’s the bloody point captain obvious. It’s the fact that she is young and happy just because she is female, a life which is impossible for most males to have just because they are born Male.
And how can you tell that without even getting to know me in person?
I also have many friends and don't really have a problem talking with others or gaining their respect. I like to believe that I am a friendly person in real life.
Because despite my best efforts to try to get a romantic relationship, I'm still left with empty hands. I have been rejected very clearly over my height before, and out of dozens of girls that I asked out after getting to know them better, none of them felt that I was worth getting to know as any more than a friend. I relate to them when they say that appearances matter, because they do.
I mean, that shit sucks, but at least you don't seem social inept and unattractive.
There is such a thing as just not meeting the right person yet. I'm not sure how old you are, but there's always time to meet the right person. Just keep focusing on yourself and creating valuable friendships.
While it sucks to be turned down for something like height, that won't be a problem for most girls, especially if you want to date short girls. I'm 5' and my bf is 5'5". Everyone is tall to me.
There is such a thing as just not meeting the right person yet.
When you're attractive, the right person is easier to find. You are already attractive and will find someone else that you are attracted to, so that allows you to screen better for the right person.
Just keep focusing on yourself and creating valuable friendships.
To what end? I mean I won't stop, but this all feels like lost effort.
While it sucks to be turned down for something like height, that won't be a problem for most girls
I beg to differ. I have been told several times this phrase, "I only date normal-sized men, sorry.", by women YOUR height. It is a big deal to most women.
Ask your boyfriend how many girls had to reject him before he found you.
Not sure how much rejection he experienced. Before we started dating (2+ years ago) he had a gf of 4 years. I know he lost his v card to her at 18.
I noticed in another post you made that you would explicitly go after chubby/obese girls. have you ever tried to get with a slimmer/in shape girl? I only ask this because I've had a similar experience. Basically a few years back a male friend of mine, who is male model gorgeous, propositioned me. Now this guy is CUT with like an 8 pack and the face a god. He was a personal trainer and strict no-carb vegan. 6'2". Now me? I'm chubby, I dont really work out. I love ice cream. I have no idea, to this day, why he would find me attractive. So I was honest and told him I dont think our lifestyles are compatible. Honestly? He was so perfect it was unattractive to me. If I would have dated him, I would have felt self conscious and shitty all the time. I am much more attracted to my sexy 5'5" bear of a bf with his beer belly. We get to sit on the couch and eat take out Chinese and not feel self conscious.
have you ever tried to get with a slimmer/in shape girl?
A slimmer, in-shape girl is very high in demand. She is going to have the attention of almost every guy she talks to. Why would she settle with a fit man who is 5'5" and ugly when she could easily find herself at least an average-looking man of average height who is also fit?
An in-shape girl is effectively out of my league. It makes no sense for me to go for her.
You seem like a socially aware person. Honestly you remind me of myself a few years ago. Yes, looks do matter. Of course they do. We like who we like to look at. You have preferences and obviously the girls that rejected you do too. Here's the most important thing though. Do not go through life only wishing for a gf. That's your problem lad.
Yes, having a gf does make some things easier, some things harder
It's not all great. The most important thing you can do is be happy with yourself. Truly happy with who you are and just enjoy your life and the now. Your positivity will attract people. Kind and positive people to you. Maybe one day even possibly an SO, but if it doesn't then oh well just focus on yourself because that's the most important person in your life. If you have the time read/listen to this book called the power of now. It will completely shift your perspective on everything.
Have any of those female friends caught your fancy? Or have any indicated they fancied you?
Many of these friends were friends of mine after they rejected me romantically. Luckily, I asked them out a bit quickly so that I don't develop unrequited love. So yes, many of them I was attracted to, but none of them were attracted to me back, otherwise circumstances would be different.
Clearly I am still able to handle a rejecftion and remain friends with those women, so it's not like I'm using sly niceguy tactics either.
If that's not an option, I can guarantee if you posted those same pics on tinder, you'd do very well.
I have tried Tinder several times over the past couple of years. I tried it before I started working out and I tried it after working out. I get zero matches, not even lying.
I live in Mid-west Canada, in a city of around 2 million people. I'm not white as well, and most women here are looking for tall, cowboy-type guys. I am not that.
Maybe things would improve if you moved at some point? Though that's a bit extreme. But people say dating in big cities is really difficult.
Either way, maybe it would be worth it to see a therapist. You seem really down on yourself, people can sense that. A professional can help you be more confident.
Either way, maybe it would be worth it to see a therapist
I've done it for over two years now, almost three. I started seeing a therapist back in 2015.
A therapist will not fix your problems, but try to convince you that your problems don't matter. So a therapist didn't make me taller, but he tried to tell me that height doesn't matter (which is clearly not true based on my own personal experiences).
The only thing therapy and antidepressants helped me to do was to start working out, get hobbies and focus on a whole bunch of other shit to distract me from my loneliness. In the end, I am still an ugly, short, lonely man, despite self-improvement.
I'm not sure how I am going to become confident in my physical appearance unless it is validated the way I have been longing for it to be validated, by another woman.
Just like how I gained confidence in my kickboxing skills from having some successes despite some failures, the only way I'll become confident in my appearance is if at least one woman finds it attractive enough to consider me as a romantic partner. At least from there, I can build start my confidence from a realistic and true reference point, not from delusion.
All I want is for you to acknowledge that many of us put in the same amount, if not more effort than most women do on their appearance and physical fitness.
You don't have to solve my problems, but PLEASE do not assume that all of us are basement dwelling neckbeards who eat cheetos and don't shower. Many of us are men who live otherwise normal lives, do take care of our appearance and have a decent social life. We're just not attractive enough for women to consider us as any more than a friend.
But maybe it's because I'm from a different area, or something else. But height just isn't a big deal around here. Like what you're saying doesn't add up to what I know as reality. But your experiences are your experiences.
Now do all of us a favour. Leave this place and never come back.
Many of us are here to vent about our loneliness. We don't need you to come in here and assume that we sit on our asses and did nothing to change our situation. Just acknowledge that some men are fated to live alone and move on with your life.
Lol fuck off. I could spend 50 hours in the gym a week with a perfect diet for years and still not be anywhere close to as sexually attractive/successful as this femoid.
Silly reply. Men, even incels who are trying to groom spend even more than 100-200 per month on hair/skin/beauty products. Incels keep a very strict lean meat under 10% fat boiled broccoli regiment to stay healthy, thus the gymcel stereotype. They spend hours getting ready to come out (trip to the saloon for hair cut and hair treatment + etc) shaving, primping, doing our hair to match the impossible chad pompadour look. We work fucking hard to be able to have confidence and dance around like that (even take dancing classes)
Maybe if you start being a Male incel, you let me know how life still doesn’t change even though you put in the same amount of work. Admit it, you women have it easy.
I live in Mid-west Canada, in a city of around 2 million people. I'm not white as well, and most women here are looking for tall, cowboy-type guys. I am not that.
As a non-incel, I came here from someone linking this sub, and noticed it's a lot less toxic than the original once. It seems like it's trying to become more of a place for incels to talk, discuss things about being incel, and possibly work on not being an incel, or learning to accept it.
The issue, however, is that starting a discussion about how women are vapid, shallow, stupid, and/or cum dumpsters to "chads" doesn't actually pertain to anything incel. It just makes you all look really fucking stupid that you apparently want sex from people you constantly shit talk, then wonder why they don't suck your dick; spoiler alert, most people (not just women) aren't going to want to talk to you if you're exuding some type of burning resentment towards them.
Yes, there are bitchy women out there who are hot, know they're hot, and go for the hot bad boy idiots... guess what? They're NOT women you want to be in a relationship with, and i can tell you this from personal experience. Know why they go for the douchbags? Because they're also douchbags, and they'll make you miserable.
Tl;Dr - Complaining that women are horrible makes you sound like you're voluntarily, not involuntarily, celebate.
I'm not talking about everyone else, I'm talking about you. I don't know what posts you're referring to, but I said I don't look at random people on the street and say "oh yeah he's definitely a loser."
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1 Gfycat_Details_Fixer 2018-02-05
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1 AbuIncelAlAustrali 2018-02-05
It's just a whore that's dancing, I don't see any privilege.
1 IlliterateAndProud 2018-02-05
I mean she's happy because her life must be amazing.
1 WhiteBlackPurple 2018-02-05
Rockstar life just because you were born the right gender.
1 Face-Hit-By-A-Lorry 2018-02-05
For Chads only. We'd get fined and/or arrested for sexual harassment just by looking. Chad can go up, be a sexist shit, grope her and she'd still ride his dick.
1 103Lawrencium 2018-02-05
You don’t have a clue on how the law works, do you. Do you just make up bullshit in your spare time?
1 comeondantheman 2018-02-05
It doesn’t matter what the law is if the girl decides she likes one and feels violated by the other.
1 Face-Hit-By-A-Lorry 2018-02-05
Look at France. They put in laws to fine people for "catcalling" or "sexual harassment", which includes staring at women.
1 103Lawrencium 2018-02-05
No they didn’t. It didn’t pass.
1 Face-Hit-By-A-Lorry 2018-02-05
Yeah they did for catcalling. It's only a matter of time before they round us incels and beta cucks up in concentration camps. This is why we need the beta uprising to happen, it's for our own survival.
1 103Lawrencium 2018-02-05
That law did not pass.
1 Face-Hit-By-A-Lorry 2018-02-05
It'll happen soon enough.
1 103Lawrencium 2018-02-05
Keep lying. I have no reason to ever trust what you say.
1 Monkey_Jerk 2018-02-05
The fuck is she doing?
1 WhiteBlackPurple 2018-02-05
Enjoying life on easy mode.
1 Monkey_Jerk 2018-02-05
Looks like a degenerate.
1 dumbkidaccount 2018-02-05
fucking whore. legalize shooting women
1 IlliterateAndProud 2018-02-05
Come on! What she's doing is rather innocent. Not something you'd do in front of your father, but still.
1 dumbkidaccount 2018-02-05
look how happy that fucking bitch is.
this is fucking homicide fuel , not suicide.
1 Flexx_Luth0r 2018-02-05
hopefully for you it would be a murder-suicide
1 dumbkidaccount 2018-02-05
Cope
1 Flexx_Luth0r 2018-02-05
kys faggot. tonight please.
1 dumbkidaccount 2018-02-05
Thats what femails want
1 Ic3Hot 2018-02-05
we don't want anything to do with you
1 dumbkidaccount 2018-02-05
Fuck off ugly cunt
1 Ic3Hot 2018-02-05
hahah
1 Krxpxnwxh 2018-02-05
Sharia now
1 IlliterateAndProud 2018-02-05
She'd still have life on easy mode, except in a different way.
1 lonewolf-2000 2018-02-05
we need it.
1 a-grill-has-no-name 2018-02-05
Why do we need sharia? Are there not enough camels getting fucked? Are you upset that the sixth pillar of Islam (camel fucking) is not being enforced?
1 Krxpxnwxh 2018-02-05
so faggot female worshippers like you can get stoned :)
1 a-grill-has-no-name 2018-02-05
How do you reach the stones to throw while you’re fucking the camel? Also, does the camel have to be a virgin or do y’all just line up? I feel like there must be a line since there’s nothing else to do in Islamic countries except fuck camels and maybe sell a banana here and there. Either way, you’d be too busy to do any stoning.
1 KarmaTrainConductor2 2018-02-05
I want to fuck a camel. We need sharia.
1 lonewolf-2000 2018-02-05
you are not funny kiddo.
1 daskettenkrad 2018-02-05
Any incel who advocates for extreme skewing of the sexual market through actual legal means, such as Sharia must be stoned himself.
1 Typhoonjig 2018-02-05
You know, no one forbids you to bounce your booty like this.
1 IlliterateAndProud 2018-02-05
I'm picturing my self doing that.
1 superman1145 2018-02-05
That gave me a good kick thank you Norman
1 Probably_NotThe_NSA 2018-02-05
Some are born to sweet delight, some are born to endless night...
1 Grand_Baby 2018-02-05
Swiggity swooty!
1 Emmx2039 2018-02-05
I've come for
1 Currycell92 2018-02-05
Tfw when you know you aren't getting that outside of escortceling. SUI Fuel.
1 AveragePlot 2018-02-05
You can dance?
1 69SRDP69 2018-02-05
If you want to
1 donacdum35 2018-02-05
You can leave your friends behind
1 AveragePlot 2018-02-05
If your friends can't dance
1 Alia_Harkonnen 2018-02-05
Shouldn't this behavior be considered mentally insane?
1 103Lawrencium 2018-02-05
No, but making judgments of a complete stranger based on a .gif should be.
1 sleepingforever1 2018-02-05
Funny, no one seems to be going against the judgments that she spends hours in the gym and spends hundreds on makeup...
1 whirlpoohl 2018-02-05
Oh yea, her life must be so easy because she’s so good at dancing. I think I get it now.
1 KarlTheEss 2018-02-05
OMG, I do anything 69ing her and eat that ass out.
1 cookin_breakfast 2018-02-05
Same!
1 MaleFAer 2018-02-05
Dancing because she knows she will never face any trouble in life
1 watchmymomgoblack 2018-02-05
These girls definitely only sleep with BBCs, or light skinned niggas like Chris Brown
1 uglyindianincel 2018-02-05
It must be nice to live like this.
1 comeondantheman 2018-02-05
These girls literally hate themselves no man or woman should ever envy a fucking thot
1 uglyindianincel 2018-02-05
You are delusional. It is way better than being an incel.
1 diosdaddy 2018-02-05
The only difficult thing about her life are old creepy men harassing her. The rest is full easy mode.
1 elyze 2018-02-05
What you don't see: she spends 6 hours a week at the gym. She spends $100-200 a month on hair/skin/make up products. She keeps to a pretty strict eating regiment to stay healthy. She spent and hour and a half getting ready before coming out; shaving, primping, doing her hair and make up. She works fucking hard to be able to have the confidence and ass to bounce around like that.
You incels start doing the same, and then let me know how life changes.
1 fucknazimodzzz 2018-02-05
All that effort to get some Chad dick what a struggle. What a hard life. Working out? Buying makeup products? And here I though I had it bad being invisible at best and treated with disgust at worst.
1 elyze 2018-02-05
Do you spend an hour at the gym 6 days a week and spend money on products/clothes to help you look nice?
I have a feeling if you started doing that, people will start to treat you better.
1 fucknazimodzzz 2018-02-05
Yes. I actually do spend 6 days a week in the gym. Sometimes 7. Unlike femoids I don’t do it to impress Chad I do it because I like it and I feel good.
And no, Chad doesn’t do this stuff. It’s purely optional for him. As long as face looks good and he’s not obese Chad can walk around in ratty gym clothes every day and pick up women. I’ve seen it with my own eyes.
1 elyze 2018-02-05
Oops, forgot you were omnipotent.
1 fucknazimodzzz 2018-02-05
Oops, I forgot you were omnipotent and can see how I look and act irl
1 noble77 2018-02-05
This is the reason why "femnoids" don't like you. You're a toxic asshole.
1 fucknazimodzzz 2018-02-05
HURR DURR THIS IS WHY UR VIRGIN XDDD
1 noble77 2018-02-05
I feel sad for your mother.
1 taftbrodda 2018-02-05
Would you date this guy? Does that help you understand why a nice body won't fix an ugly face? Oh, and here's what other women have to say about that.
1 sleepingforever1 2018-02-05
Does she? We're going off complete speculation here and you're judging people based off of it. Plenty of women look like her with little to no effort, it's called genetics, to think otherwise means you are blind or don't go outside.
1 danieldracer 2018-02-05
No genetics can give you a muscular body if you don't work
1 sleepingforever1 2018-02-05
lol maybe not like a bodybuilder, but you're delusional if you don't think some people aren't genetically predisposed to being muscular
1 NunButter 2018-02-05
Fucking preach.
1 hopelessnothelpless 2018-02-05
Doubt it and I spend 10+ normally
Makeup isn't socially acceptable for men.
So do I and I workout 5-6 times a week
Don't need to shave because I can't grow facial hair. My hair is horrible and nothing can be done about it although I try to style it every day. Again, make up is not allowed for men.
Yep I'm sure she does. It's definitely completely her doing and has nothing to do with genetics. I'm sure she does more than every incel or ugly guy in the world to try and look good. If only we worked as hard as her.
1 elyze 2018-02-05
You spend over 10 hours a week in the gym, and you don't have a healthy looking body? How long have you been doing it? If it's been a long term habit, then you're not using the gym right.
Also, make up isn't acceptable, but skin care, hair care, and nice clothes are.
1 shittyinsults 2018-02-05
An intense social anxiety that prevents me from talking to other human beings.
1 elyze 2018-02-05
Therapy does wonders.
1 shittyinsults 2018-02-05
I would be fired from my job if I ever attended therapy.
1 elyze 2018-02-05
Why does your job need to know if you attend therapy? If you're in the US, pretty sure shit like that is illegal
1 shittyinsults 2018-02-05
Not if you're in the military
1 elyze 2018-02-05
The military has their own mental health care professionals
http://www.militaryonesource.mil/-/how-to-choose-a-counselor-or-therapist
1 shittyinsults 2018-02-05
I'm well aware. That doesn't disprove what I said in the slightest.
1 elyze 2018-02-05
So the military will fire you if you use their resources?
1 BF8211 2018-02-05
It's heavily looked down upon.
1 shittyinsults 2018-02-05
Yes. People in the military often suffer in silence because it can cost them their jobs. It's a huge problem. The military itself doesn't even deny it. The stupid logic they tell troops is, "Please speak up. We'd rather fire you and get you mental help than you stay in and eventually kill yourself."
If you admit to someone you're depressed you aren't staying around much longer, especially if you've said the s-word.
1 hopelessnothelpless 2018-02-05
It's been about 4 months now that I've been doing it seriously. The past 3 years before this I would say it was closer to 5 hours a week(and about 12 hours a week of wrestling practice that would completely destroy any chance I had at bulking up because I would lose several pounds each time. Last year coach had me cut down to 108 pounds, I was 5'11" at the time. Decided to quit this year). My body is healthy(I rarely get sick and I'm physically in good shape), just on the skinny side(I'm like 5-10% BF naturally, kinda weird). I have a 6 pack and my arms look ok but I gain muscle really slowly so I look like a fucking string bean because I'm 6' tall and weigh ~145 pounds.
I have skin care products and I use shampoo and have clay to style my hair. My hair is just really fine and it doesn't ever look good no matter what I do.
I don't think any girl wants to date a guy who looks like he's 12 and can't even grow facial hair. Maybe it is my personality, but I've met a lot of assholes with girlfriends that lead me to believe otherwise.
1 elyze 2018-02-05
Hm. Maybe just confidence then.
1 kelley38 2018-02-05
Charisma. Looks only get you that first glance. If there's nothing else of substance, why would anybody want more. Good looks are a dime a dozen.
1 helpmeplease506 2018-02-05
Not an incel, but I have a relatively fit body and a decent personality. No women with a body like that would ever date me, leagues are still a thing. She probably wants a "Chad" (I hate that term), but I don't blame her for that. She can get someone super attractive, why would (or should) she settle for less?
1 WhiteBlackPurple 2018-02-05
Please die in a fire. We have many gymcels here, I personally workout about 10 hours a week. I count every gram I eat to make sure I stay at around 10-11% body fat. I'm fully body shaved and use many different ointments and creams to make my skin as good looking as possible. I easily spend more than 200$ on clothes a month.
You have no idea how hard it is to pickup girls as a man.
1 elyze 2018-02-05
So what are you finding so difficult?
1 WhiteBlackPurple 2018-02-05
Not being rejected. I have one fatal flaw: I'm not tall. All that other shit doesn't matter if you are not tall.
1 elyze 2018-02-05
Hm.
Always seems to be something. Some guys say it's height. Some say it's their jaw line. Some say it's their inability to grow a beard. Some say it's their body fat. Yet you see women with short men, men without prominent jaws, hairless men, and chubby men literally all the time.
It couldn't be personality or incompatibility could it? No, it makes much more sense that all women on planet earth are the same.
1 WhiteBlackPurple 2018-02-05
Yeah, evil bitches. All of them.
1 elyze 2018-02-05
I'm sure that attitude gets you laid tons.
1 WhiteBlackPurple 2018-02-05
I've switched to using escorts, so yeah.
1 Nokshush 2018-02-05
Why bother working out if you can't even get laid lol.
1 WhiteBlackPurple 2018-02-05
Because I like looking good. And escorts will treat you better if you do not look like a complete slob.
1 Throwaway0661944 2018-02-05
Lol post a pic of urself and we will believe you
1 Demoth 2018-02-05
Uh. I look fairly middle of the road, and come from a middle class background, so it's not like I'm super suave, or super flush with cash. I've never had it hard picking up girls, because I just acted sociable, and as soon as a girl wasn't interested, I moved on to the next until one was, and then we went from there.
I eventually met my wife by just chatting her up, and just enjoying talking with her as a person until it moved to the next stage.
Picking up girls is fucking easy if you don't over think it, and don't stress out about it.
1 Tracybeyondthewheel 2018-02-05
This is one of the reasons why you deserve to be alone....and I'm not surprised women avoid you like the plague.
1 Tracybeyondthewheel 2018-02-05
One of the best posts in this section.
She's young and she's happy...but of course an incel has a problem with this.
1 leafbutter 2018-02-05
She’s the happy Stacy who complains about Bad Boy Chad pumping and dumping her and “where are have all the good men gone?”
1 Tracybeyondthewheel 2018-02-05
If you could devote as much time to yourself as you do these bizarre fantasies you might not be a lost cause.
Who am I kidding? You're clearly a born loser.
1 leafbutter 2018-02-05
Keep the insults coming.
Mmm mmmm suicide fuel, so fresh and so tasty.
1 Tracybeyondthewheel 2018-02-05
That's coming from a guy who said....
after looking at a gif of a young woman who committed the cardinal sin in your world of being happy.
1 BF8211 2018-02-05
Why do you come here just to be an absolute piece of shit to the userbase?
1 blackflag209 2018-02-05
Probably because you guys are pieces of shit
1 BF8211 2018-02-05
Very insightful.
1 Demoth 2018-02-05
As a non-incel, I came here from someone linking this sub, and noticed it's a lot less toxic than the original once. It seems like it's trying to become more of a place for incels to talk, discuss things about being incel, and possibly work on not being an incel, or learning to accept it.
The issue, however, is that starting a discussion about how women are vapid, shallow, stupid, and/or cum dumpsters to "chads" doesn't actually pertain to anything incel. It just makes you all look really fucking stupid that you apparently want sex from people you constantly shit talk, then wonder why they don't suck your dick; spoiler alert, most people (not just women) aren't going to want to talk to you if you're exuding some type of burning resentment towards them.
Yes, there are bitchy women out there who are hot, know they're hot, and go for the hot bad boy idiots... guess what? They're NOT women you want to be in a relationship with, and i can tell you this from personal experience. Know why they go for the douchbags? Because they're also douchbags, and they'll make you miserable.
Tl;Dr - Complaining that women are horrible makes you sound like you're voluntarily, not involuntarily, celebate.
1 BF8211 2018-02-05
I stopped reading after you basically admitted to brigading. Why don’t you go back to playing Siege and leave us alone?
1 Demoth 2018-02-05
It's not brigading. Someone mentioned the sub, and I just came to check it out. No one suggested I come here, and certainly no one encouraged trolling / shaming.
As I said, a lot of the threads I initially saw weren't anything crazy. Furthermore, I like talking to people who are struggling being a virgin, especially when they are young, because I didn't lose my virginity until I was 19 and I was a real bitch about it, and had to overcome a lot of issues and insecurities internally before I became appealing to the opposite sex.
1 Tracybeyondthewheel 2018-02-05
That's rich coming from someone who says shit like...
Plenty more where that came from I'm sure.
1 BF8211 2018-02-05
Yes, on posts where people are blatantly trolling.
1 Tracybeyondthewheel 2018-02-05
So it's ok to be an " absolute piece of shit" in cases where blatant trolling is taking place?
Nice way to let yourself off the hook for what you accuse others of doing.
1 BF8211 2018-02-05
I'm not letting myself off the hook. You reply to incels who haven't even done anything wrong and accuse them of living in their mothers basement, being a failure at college, etc and it's utterly ridiculous. You don't even know them and you're just making these huge assumptions about them.
1 Tracybeyondthewheel 2018-02-05
You must not be reading their posts in their exchanges with me.
As far as the basement dweller thing goes, yeah I throw that one out there from time to time but if the shoe fits...
Not much different than you telling the ones you deem ignorant to eat a dick.
1 BF8211 2018-02-05
But you don't know if they are basement dwellers lol, you're just saying that because of the neckbeard virgin stereotype.
1 Tracybeyondthewheel 2018-02-05
That's not true. Yeah it is a generic term but you can easily spot the guys here who are not functioning in society.
1 BF8211 2018-02-05
That's so judgemental though, you don't know what someones going through.
1 Tracybeyondthewheel 2018-02-05
Wait a minute...I am being judgemental? Have you read this thread? Look at the comments based on a gif. At least be consistent in your criticisms.
Obviously I cant see into their lives but if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck....
be honest. You can spot functioning individuals and those withdrawn from society. It's not difficult.
1 BF8211 2018-02-05
I haven't criticized the girl in the gif. I don't like to assume anything about random people on the street.
1 Tracybeyondthewheel 2018-02-05
I'm referring to the others here. You're calling me judgemental yet giving a free pass to everyone else.
You don't like to assume anything? Your posts are nothing but assumptions about Stacy, Chad, and normies.
1 BF8211 2018-02-05
I'm not talking about everyone else, I'm talking about you. I don't know what posts you're referring to, but I said I don't look at random people on the street and say "oh yeah he's definitely a loser."
1 Tracybeyondthewheel 2018-02-05
I don't walk down the street pointing out losers either. I'm talking about the people on this sub. You can spot the basement dwellers fairly quickly.
1 BF8211 2018-02-05
How do you do that?
1 Tracybeyondthewheel 2018-02-05
When they sound like they're posting from Pluto and don't even understand how the world works even on a basic level, there's your basement dweller.
1 not_good_looking 2018-02-05
“She’s young and she’s happy”
That’s the bloody point captain obvious. It’s the fact that she is young and happy just because she is female, a life which is impossible for most males to have just because they are born Male.
1 Tracybeyondthewheel 2018-02-05
You've never seen young, happy guys?
Come out of that basement sometime. The world is going to shock you.
1 not_good_looking 2018-02-05
Yes we call them chads. Seems like you have not learned a single thing despite wasting your time here all day.
1 Tracybeyondthewheel 2018-02-05
You don't even understand what you're talking about. You see everything in abstract yet attempt to school others.
Go out in the world. Observe. Participate. Your new findings will shock you.
For starters, "Chad" isn't the only one who's happy. If so, your made up percentages are way off...although that's not a surprise.
1 Short_Incel_Throw 2018-02-05
I do almost all of this:
-Hit the gym at least four times a week, 2 hours each session.
-$50-100 a month on haircuts, hygiene products, etc (admittedly, there's less for men to work on here)
-Strict diet initially, though going for a lean bulk to get to 160 lbs (currently 140 lbs, 12% bodyfat)
-Shave face every morning, comb hair, wear good, form-fitting clothes, perfume.
I also work hard for my appearance, yet I'm 5'5" and have an ugly face.
Where is my reward?
1 Short_Incel_Throw 2018-02-05
Here I am, doing almost the exact same shit she does
Why am I still a kissless virgin incel if all I had to do was hit the gym and work on my appearance?
1 elyze 2018-02-05
Lack of charisma and a shitty personality?
1 Short_Incel_Throw 2018-02-05
And how can you tell that without even getting to know me in person?
I also have many friends and don't really have a problem talking with others or gaining their respect. I like to believe that I am a friendly person in real life.
1 elyze 2018-02-05
Maybe you're a kissless virgin because you hate women? Generally we don't throw our vaginas at misogynists.
You asked me why. I gave you my theory. Am I supposed to be psychic or something?
1 Short_Incel_Throw 2018-02-05
I don't hate women though. I have many female friends too, sisters I adore and a mother that I love.
What could it be then?
1 elyze 2018-02-05
So why are you posting in /r/incel?
1 Short_Incel_Throw 2018-02-05
Because despite my best efforts to try to get a romantic relationship, I'm still left with empty hands. I have been rejected very clearly over my height before, and out of dozens of girls that I asked out after getting to know them better, none of them felt that I was worth getting to know as any more than a friend. I relate to them when they say that appearances matter, because they do.
1 elyze 2018-02-05
I mean, that shit sucks, but at least you don't seem social inept and unattractive.
There is such a thing as just not meeting the right person yet. I'm not sure how old you are, but there's always time to meet the right person. Just keep focusing on yourself and creating valuable friendships.
While it sucks to be turned down for something like height, that won't be a problem for most girls, especially if you want to date short girls. I'm 5' and my bf is 5'5". Everyone is tall to me.
1 Short_Incel_Throw 2018-02-05
When you're attractive, the right person is easier to find. You are already attractive and will find someone else that you are attracted to, so that allows you to screen better for the right person.
To what end? I mean I won't stop, but this all feels like lost effort.
I beg to differ. I have been told several times this phrase, "I only date normal-sized men, sorry.", by women YOUR height. It is a big deal to most women.
Ask your boyfriend how many girls had to reject him before he found you.
I can't, which is why I shave.
1 elyze 2018-02-05
Not sure how much rejection he experienced. Before we started dating (2+ years ago) he had a gf of 4 years. I know he lost his v card to her at 18.
I noticed in another post you made that you would explicitly go after chubby/obese girls. have you ever tried to get with a slimmer/in shape girl? I only ask this because I've had a similar experience. Basically a few years back a male friend of mine, who is male model gorgeous, propositioned me. Now this guy is CUT with like an 8 pack and the face a god. He was a personal trainer and strict no-carb vegan. 6'2". Now me? I'm chubby, I dont really work out. I love ice cream. I have no idea, to this day, why he would find me attractive. So I was honest and told him I dont think our lifestyles are compatible. Honestly? He was so perfect it was unattractive to me. If I would have dated him, I would have felt self conscious and shitty all the time. I am much more attracted to my sexy 5'5" bear of a bf with his beer belly. We get to sit on the couch and eat take out Chinese and not feel self conscious.
1 Short_Incel_Throw 2018-02-05
A slimmer, in-shape girl is very high in demand. She is going to have the attention of almost every guy she talks to. Why would she settle with a fit man who is 5'5" and ugly when she could easily find herself at least an average-looking man of average height who is also fit?
An in-shape girl is effectively out of my league. It makes no sense for me to go for her.
1 elyze 2018-02-05
Try it and see what happens.
On tinder, I personally would swipe left on the pics, because, like I said, chubby girl who doesn't want to feel self conscious....
You go to a gym, surely you could meet a lady there?
1 Short_Incel_Throw 2018-02-05
I have a bit of a baby face, and a large, crooked nose. I would show you my IG.
And no, talking to gorls at the gym is sexual harassment, especially if you're ugly.
1 noble77 2018-02-05
You seem like a socially aware person. Honestly you remind me of myself a few years ago. Yes, looks do matter. Of course they do. We like who we like to look at. You have preferences and obviously the girls that rejected you do too. Here's the most important thing though. Do not go through life only wishing for a gf. That's your problem lad.
Yes, having a gf does make some things easier, some things harder It's not all great. The most important thing you can do is be happy with yourself. Truly happy with who you are and just enjoy your life and the now. Your positivity will attract people. Kind and positive people to you. Maybe one day even possibly an SO, but if it doesn't then oh well just focus on yourself because that's the most important person in your life. If you have the time read/listen to this book called the power of now. It will completely shift your perspective on everything.
1 HalalApple 2018-02-05
Just keep trying and you'll be a Chad!
1 Short_Incel_Throw 2018-02-05
Many of these friends were friends of mine after they rejected me romantically. Luckily, I asked them out a bit quickly so that I don't develop unrequited love. So yes, many of them I was attracted to, but none of them were attracted to me back, otherwise circumstances would be different.
Clearly I am still able to handle a rejecftion and remain friends with those women, so it's not like I'm using sly niceguy tactics either.
I have tried Tinder several times over the past couple of years. I tried it before I started working out and I tried it after working out. I get zero matches, not even lying.
1 elyze 2018-02-05
Wtf. Where do you live? The moon?
1 Short_Incel_Throw 2018-02-05
I live in Mid-west Canada, in a city of around 2 million people. I'm not white as well, and most women here are looking for tall, cowboy-type guys. I am not that.
1 elyze 2018-02-05
Maybe things would improve if you moved at some point? Though that's a bit extreme. But people say dating in big cities is really difficult.
Either way, maybe it would be worth it to see a therapist. You seem really down on yourself, people can sense that. A professional can help you be more confident.
1 Short_Incel_Throw 2018-02-05
I've done it for over two years now, almost three. I started seeing a therapist back in 2015.
A therapist will not fix your problems, but try to convince you that your problems don't matter. So a therapist didn't make me taller, but he tried to tell me that height doesn't matter (which is clearly not true based on my own personal experiences).
The only thing therapy and antidepressants helped me to do was to start working out, get hobbies and focus on a whole bunch of other shit to distract me from my loneliness. In the end, I am still an ugly, short, lonely man, despite self-improvement.
I'm not sure how I am going to become confident in my physical appearance unless it is validated the way I have been longing for it to be validated, by another woman.
Just like how I gained confidence in my kickboxing skills from having some successes despite some failures, the only way I'll become confident in my appearance is if at least one woman finds it attractive enough to consider me as a romantic partner. At least from there, I can build start my confidence from a realistic and true reference point, not from delusion.
1 Short_Incel_Throw 2018-02-05
All I want is for you to acknowledge that many of us put in the same amount, if not more effort than most women do on their appearance and physical fitness.
You don't have to solve my problems, but PLEASE do not assume that all of us are basement dwelling neckbeards who eat cheetos and don't shower. Many of us are men who live otherwise normal lives, do take care of our appearance and have a decent social life. We're just not attractive enough for women to consider us as any more than a friend.
1 elyze 2018-02-05
Well, you have opened my eyes a bit.
But maybe it's because I'm from a different area, or something else. But height just isn't a big deal around here. Like what you're saying doesn't add up to what I know as reality. But your experiences are your experiences.
1 Short_Incel_Throw 2018-02-05
Now do all of us a favour. Leave this place and never come back.
Many of us are here to vent about our loneliness. We don't need you to come in here and assume that we sit on our asses and did nothing to change our situation. Just acknowledge that some men are fated to live alone and move on with your life.
1 changeIsTheWay 2018-02-05
How does moving even help? One set of biologically programmed women won't be much different from another set of biologically programmed women.
1 not_good_looking 2018-02-05
How would women know that he posts on r/incels?
Idiot
1 UgandanPizzaParlor 2018-02-05
Do you think the woman in the OP could get laid with lack of charisma and a shitty personality?
You and I both know the answer.
1 molsonbeagle 2018-02-05
An incredibly toxic personality.
1 throwaway192200 2018-02-05
LMFAO.
How to be an attractive female in 2018
That's it. Enjoy.
1 not_good_looking 2018-02-05
Men will do all that and still not have a life a fraction advance good as the one she is having.
1 DestroyingIdioticPpl 2018-02-05
How do you know? You don't have to go to the gym to not be overweight. You just need the genetics/to not eat like a pig.
I would gladly do that if it made a difference. But men aren't allowed to wear makeup, so that's the end of that.
This word doesn't mean what you think it does.
Pure nonsense when it comes to most chicks.
1 IncelSlayerZero 2018-02-05
All wymyn have to do is not get fat, cope more.
1 noxxshroude 2018-02-05
And yet I desire to be her.
1 cookin_breakfast 2018-02-05
Lol fuck off. I could spend 50 hours in the gym a week with a perfect diet for years and still not be anywhere close to as sexually attractive/successful as this femoid.
1 Sumgai_01 2018-02-05
You wouldn't know that, because you haven't actually done that. It's all in your mind.
1 agustinsz 2018-02-05
But i bet itd be enough to get grinded on at a night out clubbing, which is 1200% more than you have achieved so far
1 not_good_looking 2018-02-05
Silly reply. Men, even incels who are trying to groom spend even more than 100-200 per month on hair/skin/beauty products. Incels keep a very strict lean meat under 10% fat boiled broccoli regiment to stay healthy, thus the gymcel stereotype. They spend hours getting ready to come out (trip to the saloon for hair cut and hair treatment + etc) shaving, primping, doing our hair to match the impossible chad pompadour look. We work fucking hard to be able to have confidence and dance around like that (even take dancing classes)
Maybe if you start being a Male incel, you let me know how life still doesn’t change even though you put in the same amount of work. Admit it, you women have it easy.
1 maimedwalker 2018-02-05
i just keep staring at this
1 WhiteBlackPurple 2018-02-05
Not being rejected. I have one fatal flaw: I'm not tall. All that other shit doesn't matter if you are not tall.
1 Short_Incel_Throw 2018-02-05
I live in Mid-west Canada, in a city of around 2 million people. I'm not white as well, and most women here are looking for tall, cowboy-type guys. I am not that.
1 blackflag209 2018-02-05
Probably because you guys are pieces of shit
1 Demoth 2018-02-05
As a non-incel, I came here from someone linking this sub, and noticed it's a lot less toxic than the original once. It seems like it's trying to become more of a place for incels to talk, discuss things about being incel, and possibly work on not being an incel, or learning to accept it.
The issue, however, is that starting a discussion about how women are vapid, shallow, stupid, and/or cum dumpsters to "chads" doesn't actually pertain to anything incel. It just makes you all look really fucking stupid that you apparently want sex from people you constantly shit talk, then wonder why they don't suck your dick; spoiler alert, most people (not just women) aren't going to want to talk to you if you're exuding some type of burning resentment towards them.
Yes, there are bitchy women out there who are hot, know they're hot, and go for the hot bad boy idiots... guess what? They're NOT women you want to be in a relationship with, and i can tell you this from personal experience. Know why they go for the douchbags? Because they're also douchbags, and they'll make you miserable.
Tl;Dr - Complaining that women are horrible makes you sound like you're voluntarily, not involuntarily, celebate.
1 Tracybeyondthewheel 2018-02-05
That's rich coming from someone who says shit like...
Plenty more where that came from I'm sure.
1 BF8211 2018-02-05
I'm not talking about everyone else, I'm talking about you. I don't know what posts you're referring to, but I said I don't look at random people on the street and say "oh yeah he's definitely a loser."